Should the Royal Family be abolished?

[Scarlett.]

Do they serve any other purpose that ceremonial duties any more? The whole idea of Royalty feels very outdated these days.

[Samm]

Yes. It’s outdated and one of the many things wrong with this country

[Crimson Dynamo]

And be replaced with?

A system that lets trump be in charge?

Lol

[Scarlett.]

And be replaced with?

A system that lets trump be in charge?

Lol

A democratic system, similar to the one we have now, maybe with less pomp.

[Samm]

Ideally an actual elected head of state

[Denver]

The only problem is you take away the Royal Family then you take away billions from tourism each year, they bring in so kuchen money its impossible to get rid

[James]

Nah, leave well alone, careful what you wish for etc.

[joeysteele]

No, I remain and always will be a Monarchist.
However massive reform and opening up more as to the Royal family and particularly more accountability and changing of discipline and attitude of the Royal institution needs to be done.
It should have been done over the last 70 years of this Monarch's reign.

[bots]

i don't think it should be abolished, but it does need modernisation and reform. That will come when William takes over after his father, not before.

[Denver]

i don't think it should be abolished, but it does need modernisation and reform. That will come when William takes over after his father, not before.

I'm pretty certain everything will be set in stone for Charles to never take over

[joeysteele]

I'm pretty certain everything will be set in stone for Charles to never take over

I think you could be right there Denver.

[smudgie]

The Monarchy is fine.
It’s the ruddy parasites in the institute that run scared of the press that needs changing.
Been the same for decades.:fist:

[Samm]

The only problem is you take away the Royal Family then you take away billions from tourism each year, they bring in so kuchen money its impossible to get rid

This is just wrong. It’s the buildings i.e Buckingham Palace that bring in the money. All the historic buildings would still be intact in hindsight they would probably be even more open with no monarchy allowing more money for the economy.

[Beso]

Yes. All of them.

[Smithy]

The only problem is you take away the Royal Family then you take away billions from tourism each year, they bring in so kuchen money its impossible to get rid

This year is a prime example that that isn’t true, money has been lost to tourism but not to the extent that people think the royal family have an influence in

[Crimson Dynamo]

Abolished to what?

This is a Twitter meme if I'm not mistaken

[Scarlett.]

Abolished to what?

This is a Twitter meme if I'm not mistaken

It's been around much longer than that (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abolition_of_monarchy)

[arista]

Do they serve any other purpose that ceremonial duties any more? The whole idea of Royalty feels very outdated these days.


No it does not


Harry left
his Wife is a Freak.

[Glenn.]

The Royal Family is VERY outdated, and it’s unlikely to change when Charles or William take over because their outdated views are set in stone.

[GoldHeart]

If you asked me this before , i would of said i was UNSURE . But now i think it should be.

The system of 'the royal firm' sounds unhealthy and toxic, and then there's the outdated side to things aswell .

And using tourism as an excuse for keeping the monarchy isn't a strong argument, considering since covid that would of been dropped.

[Oliver_W]

Why?

They bring in more money than they cost so what'd be the point?

Using the Current Year as an excuse doesn't really work. I wonder if people used to say "it's 1100AD, do we really need King Henry?!"

[Cherie]

Trimmed back maybe but not abolished

[Cherie]

Nah, leave well alone, careful what you wish for etc.

They are begging for Donald Trump? or sleepy Joe

[Ammi]

...I’m not entirely sure atm but I think that it has to be updated in many things because I think that what’s happening now was an inevitability at some point...the younger Royals are its future and now some of those key royals have stepped back and left the institution because of the lack of care and protection they’ve felt...it’s something that’s meant to and moulded to represent the ‘The best of British’.../...by her majesty’s approval etc and although it does have very positive values to many charities and causes etc...and the Royals are great non political Ambassadors ..it has to be seen to be exactly those things and not a cold, controlling establishment that won’t tolerate anything other than a life of duty, while neglecting family care and staff care...

[jet]

Two members, Diana and now years later Meghan having difficulties doesn't equate to neglecting family care. Kate has done magnificently, Edward's wife Sophie the same, all the other members seem to be doing just fine...

The family has access to the best mental health professionals in the UK if that help is needed and wanted. Meghan saying she wasn't allowed help is the most ridiculous lie that has ever passed her lips, and there have been many.

[Glenn.]

Two members, Diana and now years later Meghan having difficulties doesn't equate to neglecting family care. Kate has done magnificently, Edward's wife Sophie the same, all the other members seem to be doing just fine...

The family has access to the best mental health professionals in the UK if that help is needed and wanted. Meghan saying she wasn't allowed help is the most ridiculous lie that has ever passed her lips, and there have been many.

They clearly do not have access to the best mental health professionals. Just because you refuse to believe what she says because you hate her, doesn’t make her a liar.

[Nicky91]

No

[joeysteele]

I think the revelations from both Prince Harry and Meghan on the lack of support of help with mental health in the Royal set up, or to be given the freedom of seeking it independently while a full working Royal.
Is one strong thing that the Royal set up must change.

If things don't change then although this poll is small on here, the names of the reasoned people I respect on here, who would abolish it.
Well that should be a concern.

Last night this poll sparked me off to text and e mail family and friends to get as many thoughts from those I know who are like me, a Royalist/Monarchist.

As myself, I'd still not like to have like a President set up.
Someone said be careful what you wish for.

As I said so many names I respect on here have voted, they'd abolish it.
That says a lot to me.

Of my own just personal, NOT SCIENTIFIC, sample, a bit larger than the votes above.

Of 47 I've heard from.
All usually supportive of the Monarchy.
14 would support abolishing the Monarchy.
21 would support keeping it.
12 now are not certain either way.

It's not scientific, however the view there seems to be reflecting more this tibb poll.
With a move to of now abolishing it.
Then to keep it, it needs drastic and rapid reform at the very least.

This situation with Prince Harry and Meghan could bring massive problems for this rigid cold institution.
This is not now coming from Sarah Ferguson, or Diana or just Meghan.

For near half the interview, Prince Harry himself, was revealing all that brought him mental anguish.
His fears for his wife and family.
With no support from the Palace.
That's from a full born and bred Royal now.
That's a significant insight from a full Royal at the time.

[joeysteele]

They clearly do not have access to the best mental health professionals. Just because you refuse to believe what she says because you hate her, doesn’t make her a liar.

No they clearly don't have access to the best mental health care or even any Glenn it seems.

The Royal set up likely sees mental health as being weak.
No sensitivity, compassion and no support.
Brushing it aside.
As sadly some in general society still do when not taking seriously the word of those who even find the courage to speak out as to their mental health needs and concerns.

To just dismiss them as weak or liars.
Disgraceful.
No wonder a stigma still exists around mental health and why it's still pretty much a second rate service generally across the Nation too.

[Kazanne]

Nah, leave well alone, careful what you wish for etc.

This ^

[bots]

are people seriously suggesting that Harry and Meghan didn't have the capability to arrange their own medical professionals if they so wished and were held down against their will by the family in order to stop them? I don't think i've ever heard such nonsense

[jet]

are people seriously suggesting that Harry and Meghan didn't have the capability to arrange their own medical professionals if they so wished and were held down against their will by the family in order to stop them? I don't think i've ever heard such nonsense

Astonishingly, some believe that, or pretend they do.

[Cherie]

are people seriously suggesting that Harry and Meghan didn't have the capability to arrange their own medical professionals if they so wished and were held down against their will by the family in order to stop them? I don't think i've ever heard such nonsense

and on the other hand are saying how lucky that Diana left Haz all that cash so he could escape, should have used some of it on professional help maybe

[Crimson Dynamo]

are people seriously suggesting that Harry and Meghan didn't have the capability to arrange their own medical professionals if they so wished and were held down against their will by the family in order to stop them? I don't think i've ever heard such nonsense

yet people actually believe them :shocked:

there is nowt as queer as folk

[Niamh.]

:hehe: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210309/0969154817b7cf9752f7c64039e29ca2.jpg

[Ammi]

:hehe: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210309/0969154817b7cf9752f7c64039e29ca2.jpg

...George Clarke does an Amazing Space makeover at the neighbour’s house...?...

https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/the-clown-motel-tonopah-nevada-1.jpg

[Niamh.]

...George Clarke does an Amazing Space makeover at the neighbour’s house...?...

https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/the-clown-motel-tonopah-nevada-1.jpg

:laugh2:

[Cherie]

:hehe: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210309/0969154817b7cf9752f7c64039e29ca2.jpg

:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

And one of the clowns marries a marionette from America

The King clown says to his son clown "i wonder how wooden the baby will be, could be an issue when juggling?"

Marionette goes on Puppet TV in America with Punch and Judy to claim carpentryism

sh1tstorm ensues


:skull:

[Niamh.]

:joker:

I shouldn't laugh when we actually do have an Ewok as head of state :fan:

https://i.imgur.com/GW28qkm.jpeg

(I love you really Migeldy)

[Scarlett.]

The over ceremonialised nature of the UK government feels really silly, especially stuff like the big gold 'talking stick' they have in the House of Commons.

[rusticgal]

are people seriously suggesting that Harry and Meghan didn't have the capability to arrange their own medical professionals if they so wished and were held down against their will by the family in order to stop them? I don't think i've ever heard such nonsense


Yes...its truly laughable. Especially as Harry is associated with Mental Health charities.

[rusticgal]

:hehe: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210309/0969154817b7cf9752f7c64039e29ca2.jpg



Meghan the Mermaid..:laugh:

[Livia]

:hehe: https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210309/0969154817b7cf9752f7c64039e29ca2.jpg

What an insulting old ****er. Imaging writing something like this about the Irish. I would be outraged for them. This appears to be funny, though. in some way.



I voted at the last three "should the onarchy be abolished" threads, my answer's the same. No.

[Saph]

What do they actually do? like what difference would it make if we abolish them?

[Livia]

What do they actually do? like what difference would it make if we abolish them?

People always mention tourism when the role of the royal family is called into question. But they do much more than that, they are charity and arts patrons, they entertain diplomats and industrialists, bringing in business and trade and they are major employers. The queen is the head of the Commonwealth, the countries that used to be a part of the Empire but now choose to be a part of the Commonwealth. And sometimes people join even though they were never a part of the British empire.

[Cherie]

What do they actually do? like what difference would it make if we abolish them?

we might get Donald Trump?

[Kazanne]

we might get Donald Trump?

It would actually serve some people right if we did.:wavey:

[Tom4784]

The monarchy should be brought to an end after the queen dies.

I used to tolerate it's existence because of the tourism money it brought in, but by fostering a culture of hatred towards a woman who once asked them for help because she was feeling suicidal, by repeating the mistakes of the past and protecting a peadophile, the system does more harm than good.

If it doesn't get abolished, the whole system needs modernising completely, but I doubt it will happen. Give it another 25 years or so and Harry and Will's kids and their other halves will face the same scrutiny. History is doomed to repeat itself.

[Beso]

No, not now they have kicked out the racist element from the family.

[joeysteele]

It needs drastic reform.
Which won't happen under this Queen.
Nor IF Prince Charles becomes King.

Were he to step down in favour of Prince William,then it may be able to keep going, again if it is reformed however.

If Prince William couldn't or didn't reform it, I feel a movement for its abolition will grow.

[Captain.Remy]

You can ask us French, we have some tips for you on how to get rid of a royal family :laugh::laugh:

My half-Scottish husband is having a lot of debates with his family. Some of his family members have always been in for, some completely against, and some believe it should be reformed.