Whodunit: The Royal Family Edition

[UserSince2005]

Who supposedly raised their "concerns" over how dark the skin of Meghan and Harry's the baby will be?

Harry has ruled out Prince Philip and the Queen.

[UserSince2005]

I think Prince Charles because hes a bad one.

[Nicky91]

no one


the only bad apple in the royals was Harry (common knowledge he was always the rebel)


and Meghan made it up for attention and likes from US public

[Crimson Dynamo]

who, 2 years ago made a comment that if you look at it one way could be seen as mildly racist or could have been said innocently with no malice but in todays society should best not have been said?

but why add context or who said it?( for drama, to get sympathy, to create as much discord in your own family as you can for purely nasty reasons)

[Cherie]

I am going for Camilla


We need context for how it was said though, and Harry is a turd for just throwing it out there and then saying he will never say who it was, then later back tracking and exonorating the Queen and Philip, because of how bad it would look on him, he knows Charles and Cam aren't popular

[Cherie]

who, 2 years ago made a comment that if you look at it one way could be seen as mildly racist or could have been said innocently with no malice but in todays society should best not have been said?

but why add context or who said it?( for drama, to get sympathy, to create as much discord in your own family as you can for purely nasty reasons)

oh snap

I saw Thomas Markle this morning saying that we needed context for the comment and it might have been a 'curious' question rather than anything sinister, hell they could have been talking about hair colour :laugh:

[bots]

I'm going for Harry himself

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[UserSince2005]

Would it be possible for the poll to be closed once the Palace reveals the truth?

[Amy Jade]

no one


the only bad apple in the royals was Harry (common knowledge he was always the rebel)


and Meghan made it up for attention and likes from US public

Oh Nicky I give up

[arista]

I think Prince Charles because hes a bad one.


Yes could be.


The Royals will keep it, Secret.

[arista]

I'm going for Harry himself

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Yes he was silly in his Youth

[Denver]

I'm thinking William after some thought

[Amy Jade]

I'm disgusted to see people dilute racism. No context dismisses the fact a person was concerned about a child's skin colour. If the child is healthy who gives a **** what colour their skin is.

Literally seeing so many people in a different light.

[Crimson Dynamo]

DO we all remember when Prince Harry on a video diary in which he describes an Asian member of his platoon as "our little P*K* friend". (the racist term for a Pakistani)

I do

Not that long ago either but :think: Meghan didnt bring that up with her financial friend last night and for the life of me i cant think why?

I expect she forgave Harry and did not let it trouble her


:whistle:

[Nicky91]

Oh Nicky I give up

Harry the rebel caused negativity onto the royals so good he's no longer part of them


now another one who causes negative limelight onto the royals from public needs to go, yes looking at you Andrew the paedo


we can't have any negativity whatsoever at our precious british royal family, the number one royal family in the world

[UserSince2005]

I'm disgusted to see people dilute racism. No context dismisses the fact a person was concerned about a child's skin colour. If the child is healthy who gives a **** what colour their skin is.

Literally seeing so many people in a different light.

It is possible to discuss any features of a child in a way that is acceptable.

[Amy Jade]

It is possible to discuss any features of a child in a way that is acceptable.

Discussing maybe but being concerned is not.

[UserSince2005]

Discussing maybe but being concerned is not.

But thats the point some people are making.
Some people think the comments were made, but not in a concerned manner.

[Cherie]

You should have made the poll public, I want to know who is with me on Camilla

[Amy Jade]

But thats the point some people are making.
Some people think the comments were made, but not in a concerned manner.

Harry and Meghan both said it was a comment of concern and it was their child.

End of discussion. You justify racism if you want.

[Vanessa]

I think probably Charles. We all know he's a twat.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Discussing maybe but being concerned is not.

nothing more than an unfounded allegation by people who cant even get their story straight in the actual interview

she said it was said several times

he said no, only once

:facepalm:

[Denver]

I'm thinking William as Harry said it would publicly ruin the person and Charkes is universally hated already while the future King William is being presented as Squeaky clean

[joeysteele]

I'm not going to print my thoughts as to who I think.
As it's just about saying someone is racist

Prince Harry took offence, so the context of it to him who heard it directly was offensive.
No matter how much others may want to dismiss it who never heard it.

Meghan would never have even known of it, had Prince Harry not told her.
However it would seem, so concerned was HE, only him, that he felt he needed to alert Meghan later, that such thinking was within the Royal set up

It's an inappropriate question and statement at the very least and at worst it has come from a prejudicial racist view too.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm not going to print my thoughts as to who I think.
As it's just about saying someone is racist

Prince Harry took offence, so the context of it to him who heard it directly was offensive.
No matter how much others may want to dismiss it who never heard it.

Meghan would never have even known of it, had Prince Harry not told her.
However it would seem, so concerned was HE, only him, that he felt he needed to alert Meghan later, that such thinking was within the Royal set up

It's an inappropriate question and statement at the very least and at worst it has come from a prejudicial racist view too.

Dont forget this is the Harry who thought that The Nazis were funny and called someone a "little p*k*" (a man from Pakistan)

SO lets just agree he isnt the most reliable person to judge on racism

:skull:

[Cherie]

I'm thinking William as Harry said it would publicly ruin the person and Charkes is universally hated already while the future King William is being presented as Squeaky clean

yesterday you were convinced it was Charles, see what Harry has done there?

if if were William given how well the two of them got on before the Wedding it might have been part of a jokey conversation that Harry then relayed to Megs who then pointed out he should have been outraged, and he duly complied :skull:

I hope whoever it was comes forward if they can even remember the conversation that is

[UserSince2005]

yesterday you were convinced it was Charles, see what Harry has done there?

if if were William given how well the two of them got on before the Wedding it might have been part of a jokey conversation that Harry then relayed to Megs who then pointed out he should have been outraged, and he duly complied :skull:

I hope whoever it was comes forward if they can even remember the conversation that is

This would make sense.

[UserSince2005]

Brotherly bants?

[Cherie]

Brotherly bants?

Maybe he would like Wills to abdicate so he could one day make Megs Queen :laugh:

[AnnieK]

Maybe he would like Wills to abdicate so he could one day make Megs Queen :laugh:

He'd have to hope that George, Charlotte and Louis abdicate as well. He's well down the pecking order now.

[Cherie]

He'd have to hope that George, Charlotte and Louis abdicate as well. He's well down the pecking order now.

Oh is that how it works, I thought he would be next!

[joeysteele]

He'd have to hope that George, Charlotte and Louis abdicate as well. He's well down the pecking order now.

Exactly Annie.
Plus of course there's Prince Charles above Prince William too.
IF Charles becomes King and lives as long as the Queen, with all the rest in line after him too.

I think it a tall order if not impossible for Prince Harry to ever be near the throne.

[AnnieK]

Oh is that how it works, I thought he would be next!

He was until William had children, with each subsequent child, Harry moved down a peg so barring an absolute tragedy....his chances are pretty slim.

[joeysteele]

This poll has a massive inaccuracy on it.
It states SHE is making it up for attention.

SHE never heard it, it was the HE who heard it.
It was ONLY said to Prince Harry as he confirmed in the interview.

So it's staggering anyone can now accuse HER of making it up.

[jet]

I'm going for Harry himself

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Well, he has form....:oh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

This poll has a massive inaccuracy on it.
It states SHE is making it up for attention.

SHE never heard it, it was the HE who heard it.
It was ONLY said to Prince Harry as he confirmed in the interview.

So it's staggering anyone can now accuse HER of making it up.

Harry said that the comment was made once to him

SHE said "Meghan said she would answer 'honestly', before going on to claim there were 'concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he's born'"

so she even made up that it was said more than once


The lies trip off her tongue so easily she even made up conversations in the actual interview :shocked:

[LukeB]

Camilla
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[Zizu]

Who supposedly raised their "concerns" over how dark the skin of Meghan and Harry's the baby will be?



Harry has ruled out Prince Philip and the Queen.



My money is on that shameless hussy who help ruin Di’s marriage and life ..


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[Zizu]

I am going for Camilla





We need context for how it was said though, and Harry is a turd for just throwing it out there and then saying he will never say who it was, then later back tracking and exonorating the Queen and Philip, because of how bad it would look on him, he knows Charles and Cam aren't popular



Great minds


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[Zizu]

Harry said that the comment was made once to him



SHE said "Meghan said she would answer 'honestly', before going on to claim there were 'concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he's born'"



so she even made up that it was said more than once





The lies trip off her tongue so easily she even made up conversations in the actual interview :shocked:



Well nobody knows for sure how often it was discussed or mentioned..

It’s rather unlikely that once that particular bombshell had been dropped that everyone just carried on regardless and never mentioned it afterwards..


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[rusticgal]

I am going for Camilla


We need context for how it was said though, and Harry is a turd for just throwing it out there and then saying he will never say who it was, then later back tracking and exonorating the Queen and Philip, because of how bad it would look on him, he knows Charles and Cam aren't popular


I completely agree....The fact that they have exonerated The Queen and Prince Phillip and left speculation over the others was a deliberate retaliation against those they have fallen out with...

[Niamh.]

I completely agree....The fact that they have exonerated The Queen and Prince Phillip and left speculation over the others was a deliberate retaliation against those they have fallen out with...

For good reason it seems like

[rusticgal]

I'm disgusted to see people dilute racism. No context dismisses the fact a person was concerned about a child's skin colour. If the child is healthy who gives a **** what colour their skin is.

Literally seeing so many people in a different light.



No one is diluting Racism...if it was said in a racist way then thats clearly not acceptable. However 'concern' and 'curiosity' are two different things...and this is one persons one sided view of the conversation that could easily be taken out of context.

[rusticgal]

For good reason it seems like



I dont see it as a good reason at all....in fact its vindictive. If you are going to make a serious accusation regarding racism say who it is that actually said it and let them answer to it.

[rusticgal]

You should have made the poll public, I want to know who is with me on Camilla


Me....I can imagine her saying it very tongue in cheek as she draws on her cigarette :laugh:

[Amy Jade]

No one is diluting Racism...if it was said in a racist way then thats clearly not acceptable. However 'concern' and 'curiosity' are two different things...and this is one persons one sided view of the conversation that could easily be taken out of context.

Yes you are. Harry stated the concern was for the child's skin colour and how it may effect the royal institution.

You'll say anything to try and interpret it differently and that is diluting racism. I've got no time for you.

[rusticgal]

nothing more than an unfounded allegation by people who cant even get their story straight in the actual interview

she said it was said several times

he said no, only once

:facepalm:


Amongst many other inconsistences....

[joeysteele]

For good reason it seems like


For very good reason indeed, in my view.

[rusticgal]

Dont forget this is the Harry who thought that The Nazis were funny and called someone a "little p*k*" (a man from Pakistan)

SO lets just agree he isnt the most reliable person to judge on racism

:skull:


I know...the hypocrisy is unreal.

[Zizu]

You should have made the poll public, I want to know who is with me on Camilla



Yep


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[rusticgal]

I've got no time for you.



Ignore me then :hee:

[joeysteele]

Well nobody knows for sure how often it was discussed or mentioned..

It’s rather unlikely that once that particular bombshell had been dropped that everyone just carried on regardless and never mentioned it afterwards..


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Exactly.
HOWEVER she wasn't who it was said to.
Both stated that clearly.

It was said directly to Prince Harry.
Whoever then learned about the inappropriate in any circumstances comment, only then learned it from Prince Harry, as he's the one it was said to.

Then he told and alerted Meghan to it.

So she can't be making it up.
No matter how much others would wish that was so.

The poll is inaccurate and misleading.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[rusticgal]

This was one of the many examples of bias interviewing that took place. When these comments were made WHY didnt Oprah ask Harry how he dealt with it? what did he say in response?....but no it was just left there as an accusation leaving everyone to speculate.

[Cherie]

Yep


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I should have known it was you Zizu!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes you are. Harry stated the concern was for the child's skin colour and how it may effect the royal institution.

You'll say anything to try and interpret it differently and that is diluting racism. I've got no time for you.

no one said "and how it may effect (sic) the royal institution."

that is incorrect information

[Zizu]

Dont forget this is the Harry who thought that The Nazis were funny and called someone a "little p*k*" (a man from Pakistan)

SO lets just agree he isnt the most reliable person to judge on racism

:skull:



To give the comment some much needed context... it was directed at one of his very good friends Ahmed Raza Khan .

A spokesman for Britain's royal family said there had been no racist intent in Harry's words.

"Prince Harry fully understands how offensive this term (****) can be, and is extremely sorry for any offence his words might cause," the spokesman said.
"However, on this occasion Prince Harry used the term without any malice and as a nickname about a highly popular member of his platoon.”

"There is no question that Prince Harry was in any way seeking to insult his friend."


In May, Harry was awarded a military service medal for 10 weeks of frontline service in Afghanistan whilst Ahmed Raza Khan has since distinguished himself as a soldier of astonishing courage under fire by saving wounded colleagues, despite being shot in a Taliban ambush.


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[Crimson Dynamo]

This was one of the many examples of bias interviewing that took place. When these comments were made WHY didnt Oprah ask Harry how he dealt with it? what did he say in response?....but no it was just left there as an accusation leaving everyone to speculate.

even the most basic journalist would have followed it up with

"what did you say at that time?"

"in what context did this arise?"

The aim was to troll, sensationalise and to get headlines

using racism as a pawn in their quest for fame and money

:bored:

[Crimson Dynamo]

To give the comment some much needed context... it was directed at one of his very good friends Ahmed Raza Khan .

A spokesman for Britain's royal family said there had been no racist intent in Harry's words.

"Prince Harry fully understands how offensive this term (****) can be, and is extremely sorry for any offence his words might cause," the spokesman said.
"However, on this occasion Prince Harry used the term without any malice and as a nickname about a highly popular member of his platoon.”

"There is no question that Prince Harry was in any way seeking to insult his friend."


In May, Harry was awarded a military service medal for 10 weeks of frontline service in Afghanistan whilst Ahmed Raza Khan has since distinguished himself as a soldier of astonishing courage under fire by saving wounded colleagues, despite being shot in a Taliban ambush.


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ah yes context


:skull:

[bots]

Actually, i would like to change my pick, i'm going for Princess Charlotte :smug:

[Cherie]

Actually, i would like to change my pick, i'm going for Princess Charlotte :smug:

:laugh: or George

[Kazanne]

Wasn't Harry himself accused of racism when he made a remark about a soldier ? this has been kept quiet, but was said on morning TV, so why is no one concerned about that but are having tantrums over someone saying something that maybe have just been curiosity,I did Google it after I found out and yes there are lots of links to what he said,can you imagine if someone said similar to Megan,Im all for stamping it out but lets gets real,he is not totally squeaky clean where this sort of thing is thrown out, as much as I like him,I do think the telling the world what was said then saying he wasnt going to say who it was, is pointless .
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-harry-called-fellow-soldier-his-little-****-friend-1299804.html

[Cherie]

Wasn't Harry himself accused of racism when he made a remark about a soldier ? this has been kept quiet, but was said on morning TV, so why is no one concerned about that but are having tantrums over someone saying something that maybe have just been curiosity,I did Google it after I found out and yes there are lots of links to what he said,can you imagine if someone said similar to Megan,Im all for stamping it out but lets gets real,he is not totally squeaky clean where this sort of thing is thrown out, as much as I like him,I do think the telling the world what was said then saying he wasnt going to say who it was, is pointless .
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-harry-called-fellow-soldier-his-little-****-friend-1299804.html

ooh Kaz keep up, he directed the P word to a good friend so no malice was intended or taken

shame which ever family member directed the comment at Haz didn't realise they weren't or would never be friends

[rusticgal]

Oh is that how it works, I thought he would be next!


Harry would have to be Consort to George/Charlotte or Louis.

[rusticgal]

Wasn't Harry himself accused of racism when he made a remark about a soldier ? this has been kept quiet, but was said on morning TV, so why is no one concerned about that but are having tantrums over someone saying something that maybe have just been curiosity,I did Google it after I found out and yes there are lots of links to what he said,can you imagine if someone said similar to Megan,Im all for stamping it out but lets gets real,he is not totally squeaky clean where this sort of thing is thrown out, as much as I like him,I do think the telling the world what was said then saying he wasnt going to say who it was, is pointless .
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-harry-called-fellow-soldier-his-little-****-friend-1299804.html


Yes thats right Kaz...plus the Nazi uniform incident. He has a short memory. :wavey:

[UserSince2005]

Why have the palace not revealed the culprit?

We need answers.

[Zizu]

Why have the palace not revealed the culprit?

We need answers.



They will deal with it internally .. cough .. cover-up .. damage limitation as I said previously


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[Beso]

even the most basic journalist would have followed it up with

"what did you say at that time?"

"in what context did this arise?"

The aim was to troll, sensationalise and to get headlines

using racism as a pawn in their quest for fame and money

:bored:

Exactly.

[GoldHeart]

It is possible to discuss any features of a child in a way that is acceptable.

If people even have to ask that then clearly education is needed, as there's a clear difference between e.g

" I wonder what Archie's complexion will be like maybe he'll look like his mother in skin tone "

TO

"I'm concerned by how dark Archie will come out "


Non of us know how it was said ,but out of those examples I've given it's crystal which one is uncalled for.

[GoldHeart]

Wasn't Harry himself accused of racism when he made a remark about a soldier ? this has been kept quiet, but was said on morning TV, so why is no one concerned about that but are having tantrums over someone saying something that maybe have just been curiosity,I did Google it after I found out and yes there are lots of links to what he said,can you imagine if someone said similar to Megan,Im all for stamping it out but lets gets real,he is not totally squeaky clean where this sort of thing is thrown out, as much as I like him,I do think the telling the world what was said then saying he wasnt going to say who it was, is pointless .
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-harry-called-fellow-soldier-his-little-****-friend-1299804.html

Nobody said Harry was squeaky clean, you know what's funny is people putting fickle labels on him.

Remember when Harry's character was the narrative of

"poor lad getting bullied under the thumb by Meghan,who can't think for himself" .

But now that people want to call him a liar and a hypocrite, suddenly he's

"a racist pot stirrer who's throwing his family under the bus"


Interesting how when the narrative was

"poor Harry poor Harry " & "evil Meghan look what she's doing to him"

nobody said anything about his past then hmm fascinating really .

Harry has always made mistakes in his younger years,and he was always a wild child. He's clearly matured and grown . He's a dad now and he wants to protect his family.

[Zizu]

Nobody said Harry was squeaky clean, you know what's funny is people putting fickle labels on him.

Remember when Harry's character was the narrative of

"poor lad getting bullied under the thumb by Meghan,who can't think for himself" .

But now that people want to call him a liar and a hypocrite, suddenly he's

"a racist pot stirrer who's throwing his family under the bus"


Interesting how when the narrative was

"poor Harry poor Harry " & "evil Meghan look what she's doing to him"

nobody said anything about his past then hmm fascinating really .

Harry has always made mistakes in his younger years,and he was always a wild child. He's clearly matured and grown . He's a dad now and he wants to protect his family.



That’s my take on things ..


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[Zizu]

Prince Charles and Queen Elizabeth II are not seeing eye to eye in terms of the Prince Harry and Meghan Markle interview with Oprah Winfrey that has sent tremours down Buckingham Palace.

As per Us Weekly, the mother-son have approaches that are poles apart in regards to how they should be tackling the royal crisis at hand.

An insider revealed to the portal: “Charles and the Queen had very different plans for how to respond. Charles wanted to rebuke every claim made by Meghan and Harry and the Queen wanted to take a more modest approach.”

The grapevine further shared that the 72-year-old Prince of Wales “especially wanted to make a statement against the allegation that someone in the royal family was worried about how dark Archie’s skin would be” but he was “overruled by other members of the family.”




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[UserSince2005]

Do we now reckon its that bitch wannabe queen but never will be Camilla?

[Beso]

Why did I think this was a new tibb panto themed game that was invented by kate!!

[Jordan.]

Yes you are. Harry stated the concern was for the child's skin colour and how it may effect the royal institution.

You'll say anything to try and interpret it differently and that is diluting racism. I've got no time for you.

Amy Jade come back we miss you x

[Oliver_W]

It's not much of a Whodunnit, they won't say anything about what even was Dun ...

[UserSince2005]

Cancel the whodunit
turns out its not the scandal Megs made it out to be
Harry has confirmed it wasn't racism it was just a case of unconscious bias

[UserSince2005]

Although i think it is all but confirmed now to have been Camilla.