Humans should be micro chipped at birth

[thesheriff443]

Now before some of you jump in with a knee jerk reaction, please consider the idea!.

We all ready live by many rules that are there to protect us and the world we live in.
Micro chipping people will make the world a better and safer place.
And those that are already alive should also be chipped

Safer streets for women and everyone! If micro chips were used people in danger could be found police would know who was in the streets and if a crime was committed they could check the victims micro chip and see who’s chip was near them.

Any form of travel crossing boarders rights to be in a country driving offences could be checked by a simple scan criminals terrorists would not get away by giving false details

Medical details stored so if you was in an accident these could be checked so you get the right medical treatment

Just a few positive examples of how micro chipping would benefit mankind
Good people have nothing to fear from being chipped

What do you lot think

[Scarlett.]

There would definitely be benefits, but the potential for misuse is far, far to high

[thesheriff443]

There would definitely be benefits, but the potential for misuse is far, far to high

In what way? The world is not a free world already you can’t go we’re you please and we already have to prove produce proof of who we
Are and what we will be doing.

[Cherie]

I can see positives, but then again if someone wanted to 'disappear' that wouldn't really be possible, what about witness protection programmes how would they work without the chip being removed and another embedded.....under cover police work...there are probably other areas as well where a person would want anonymity...

[Toy Soldier]

I'm against it for general philosophical reasons but without going into that, the glaring practical problem:

Law-abiding people would be more likely to leave their chip alone and allow themselves to be tracked. People with nefarious intent (career criminals, terrorists, serial killers) would quickly find a way to remove or deactivate their chip.

[Ammi]

...people would find a way of detecting where others are in the same way that people could hack PIN numbers of credit cards etc...so it would create a knowledge of knowing the location of someone ...maybe someone who would want to harm a child for instance, would know that child’s location at any given time...?...it would also enable patterns of when it home and not at home to be tracked as well for empty properties...?...it feels a bit like a criminal activity ideal, type thing...

[Alf]

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[joeysteele]

...people would find a way of detecting where others are in the same way that people could hack PIN numbers of credit cards etc...so it would create a knowledge of knowing the location of someone ...maybe someone who would want to harm a child for instance, would know that child’s location at any given time...?...it would also enable patterns of when it home and not at home to be tracked as well for empty properties...?...it feels a bit like a criminal activity ideal, type thing...


This, I agree with.

On paper it seems a fair idea, however I think it could open up far more problems than ease any.

[Ammi]

...I mean, humans are ‘microchipped’ aren’t they...they have tags fitted after a crime has been committed but before a crime is committed, how would it be known who to monitor because that’s talking about tracking thought activity...?...it would be impossible to monitor the entire world population, the workforce to implement that wouldn’t be feasible...and animals are microchipped for research reasons as well, to study activity etc...but it doesn’t prevent anything, it just tracks...

[Crimson Dynamo]

yesterday they announced that druggies and career crims will be tagged going forward to reduce crime

I say we should at least try it and see if it helps

[Josy]

I'm against it completely, it would totally violate any rights we have left to choose our own levels of privacy, that's a basic human right. We already have cctv everywhere, the the electoral roll, cards, smart devices and so on that track plenty of info like where we live, location, shopping and eating habit, daily purchases and so on thats more than enough imo.

Criminals and vulnerable people like the elderly with dementia are already able to be tagged with devices so certain organisations like the police or health care system know how to find them if needed.

Microchipping humans and giving some large organisations total control over people is not a world I would want to be living in.
This thread is sponsored by George Orwell:joker:

First thing I thought of when I read the thread.

[Toy Soldier]

yesterday they announced that druggies and career crims will be tagged going forward to reduce crime

I say we should at least try it and see if it helps

Bit misleading, really this is just swapping out curfew ankle tags for ones with geolocation and will mainly be people who would have been on a tag anyway, and also it's while out of prison on probation... which makes me think these will actually be used to reduce physical imprisonment sentences ("Yeah you can go home but you have to wear this tag until your sentence would be up") more than anything else. So basically a form of "electronic prison" rather than actually being in a cell (which is expensive).

tl;dr it's to reduce prison numbers and save money. People will be whinging about "even softer sentencing" in no time.

[Josy]

yesterday they announced that druggies and career crims will be tagged going forward to reduce crime

I say we should at least try it and see if it helpsTagging with a device is completely different to a microchip

[Josy]

John Carpenter and Roddy Pipers mullet warned us about this kind of future in that weird movie from the 80s :joker:

(I can't remember the title atm)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tagging with a device is completely different to a microchip

i know but the idea is to keep tabs on crims 24/7

So to start with if you commit say 2 burglaries then you get microchipped and gps tagged with a team monitoring you 24/7 for 10 years.

[Alf]

John Carpenter and Roddy Pipers mullet warned us about this kind of future in that weird movie from the 80s :joker:

(I can't remember the title atm)They Live?

[Niamh.]

This thread is sponsored by George Orwell

I'm against it completely, it would totally violate any rights we have left to choose our own levels of privacy, that's a basic human right. We already have cctv everywhere, the the electoral roll, cards, smart devices and so on that track plenty of info like where we live, location, shopping and eating habit, daily purchases and so on thats more than enough imo.

Criminals and vulnerable people like the elderly with dementia are already able to be tagged with devices so certain organisations like the police or health care system know how to find them if needed.

Microchipping humans and giving some large organisations total control over people is not a world I would want to be living in.
:joker:

First thing I thought of when I read the thread.

This and That ^^

[Josy]

i know but the idea is to keep tabs on crims 24/7



So to start with if you commit say 2 burglaries then you get microchipped and gps tagged with a team monitoring you 24/7 for 10 years.That can be done with a standard tag though, I don't see the need for a chip

[Josy]

They Live?That's the one

[arista]

Yes I made threads on this
year ago.

It makes sense


Its within my Tribal War Thread
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82498&page=6

[bots]

it would be easier just to put everyone on a leash and be done with it

[thesheriff443]

Every time you use the internet you are being tracked

Criminals could be tracked all the time but law abiding people would only be tracked if they went missing.

[thesheriff443]

If you carry a smart phone you are being tracked even if you delete your private messages they can still be read.

[Cherie]

If you carry a smart phone you are being tracked even if you delete your private messages they can still be read.

That is not quite the same as having something in your body though is it :shrug:

[thesheriff443]

That is not quite the same as having something in your body though is it :shrug:

It’s there to make life better and safer it’s not like you can wonder around without leaving any trace of were you have been

[arista]

Every time you use the internet you are being tracked

Criminals could be tracked all the time but law abiding people would only be tracked if they went missing.



Not
if you are on a PC at your Office or Home

[Niamh.]

That is not quite the same as having something in your body though is it :shrug:

Exactly, you can't force people to have something implanted into their bodies. Having a smart phone is a choice as is going on the internet

[Oliver_W]

Microchipping everyone is a bit dystopian/communist/fascist for my tastes...

[Toy Soldier]

Every time you use the internet you are being tracked

If you carry a smart phone you are being tracked

There are relatively simple ways around both of these that criminals use frequently; like I said above microchips would be exactly the same. The only people you'd be able to track and control are the ones who are willing to be tracked and controlled... "the bad guys" would find a loophole and, potentially, even ways to spin the fact that everyone ELSE is chipped to their advantage.

[bots]

There are relatively simple ways around both of these that criminals use frequently; like I said above microchips would be exactly the same. The only people you'd be able to track and control are the ones who are willing to be tracked and controlled... "the bad guys" would find a loophole and, potentially, even ways to spin the fact that everyone ELSE is chipped to their advantage.

think of the benefit to the average burglar if he knew no-one was going to disturb him while he was in action. A perfect world for crims is when everyone is tracked

[Captain.Remy]

Just like DNA tests, I'm not doing them due to confidentiality issues and data usage.
And yes, I'm a good guy, not a criminal and I am still against it.

And, um, fascism anyone? Let's never forget what happened in the concentration camps.
Also: privacy rights, freedoms etc It's wrong on so many levels.

[Tom4784]

There's enough tracking with phones and such, microchips are needless.

[arista]

There's enough tracking with phones and such, microchips are needless.

Not at birth
they do not have phones yet.

[arista]

Microchipping everyone is a bit dystopian/communist/fascist for my tastes...


It could come in
due to the state the world is in.

[Vicky.]

China and such my get to this soon.

But yeah. 'Normal people' would go about their lives while being tracked, meanwhile there would be ways to disable/alter your chip available within 5 minutes for anyone who is..less than honest, should we say!

The 'bad side' would be the likes of..

Person 1 2 and 3 are in an area. Person 3 has disabled their chip. Person 1 is murdered. Records show only person 2 in the area. Person 2 is arrested and cannot prove innocence as their chip says they were the only ones around. That kind of thing tbh. And thats just the start of it..

[thesheriff443]

There's enough tracking with phones and such, microchips are needless.

Throw a phone away and you are not being tracked anymore, people lost or being held captive would be found.

If Meghan McCann had been chipped we would know what happened to her and were she is.

[thesheriff443]

These chips would not be simple to remove and if you were found without a chip or messing with it you would go to prison.

[Niamh.]

These chips would not be simple to remove and if you were found without a chip or messing with it you would go to prison.

This is just sounding more and more dystopian tbh

[Tom4784]

Throw a phone away and you are not being tracked anymore, people lost or being held captive would be found.

If Meghan McCann had been chipped we would know what happened to her and were she is.

It's a silly argument to make. You're making out that everyone in the world should give up all forms of privacy to prevent occasional bad things from happening. Nothing will stop those things from happening, and to be frank, I'm not inviting 1984 to become anymore of a reality than it already is just because of fearmongering.

Thousands of people died to protect our rights, and few things annoy me quite as much as other people willingly giving up their rights out of fear. The fact that phones are tracked is more than enough.

[Vicky.]

These chips would not be simple to remove and if you were found without a chip or messing with it you would go to prison.

And if your chip malfunctions somehow? Which is always a possibility with technology? Would look for all intents and purposes like you had it tampered with it.

[Cherie]

This is just sounding more and more dystopian tbh

I think Sherriff is an infiltrator from North Korea :joker:

[thesheriff443]

What privacy do you lot think you really got I’ve just completed the census which must completed by law.

The government knows we’re you live who you live with how much you earn we’re and wen you last went abroad

They have access to police records they know if you have a driving licence.

People live basic lives reaping the same things eating the same things shopping in the same places going to the same places on holiday the idea that you any privacy apart from shutting your front door is a false one

[Vicky.]

Police records only identify those daft enough to get caught doing wrong though.

Also the ****ing census thing took me half an hour...quick check indeed :bored:

[thesheriff443]

Police records only identify those daft enough to get caught doing wrong though.

Also the ****ing census thing took me half an hour...quick check indeed :bored:

Exactly they know a lot about you would you agree?

[Vicky.]

Oh yeah. But we still do have some degree of privacy :laugh:

I have never filled a census thing in before. They even asked all the 'are you in the army, do you have a degree' stuff about my 16 year old stepdaughter. Was seriously tempted to fill it in with degrees, phds and all sorts for her...stupid questions

[Vicky.]

That said, IF I was doing anything wrong, would be easy to alter the answers. So many filling it in, the likelihood of being picked up would be seriously minimal..

Same argument as before really. Those not doing wrong fill it in right, those who are doing wrong, have ways around it :S

[Glenn.]

What a ridiculous idea.

[hijaxers]

Throw a phone away and you are not being tracked anymore, people lost or being held captive would be found.

If Meghan McCann had been chipped we would know what happened to her and were she is.

Its Madelaine Mc Cann _~had Meghan been chipped we'd know for sure she'd not been shut in :laugh:

[Josy]

What privacy do you lot think you really got I’ve just completed the census which must completed by law.

The government knows we’re you live who you live with how much you earn we’re and wen you last went abroad

They have access to police records they know if you have a driving licence.

People live basic lives reaping the same things eating the same things shopping in the same places going to the same places on holiday the idea that you any privacy apart from shutting your front door is a false one

The point is the privacy we have got is entirely down to us as individuals and its a basic human right that no one has the right to forcefully take away.

If people choose to live off the grid, not use smart technology and so on then they won't be tracked the same way as others that choose not to live that way.

[rusticgal]

Its Madelaine Mc Cann _~had Meghan been chipped we'd know for sure she'd not been shut in :laugh:


:hehe:


It could happen...

[bots]

according to some conspiracy theorists, the covid vaccine contains a micro tracker, added at the behest of Bill Gates, so millions are already linked up to the system if that is the case :laugh:

[thesheriff443]

The point is the privacy we have got is entirely down to us as individuals and its a basic human right that no one has the right to forcefully take away.

If people choose to live off the grid, not use smart technology and so on then they won't be tracked the same way as others that choose not to live that way.

How many people actually live off grid and how many want to live like a cave man or woman , not many

And those that live off are working each day just to themselves in food.

People can’t do as they please and they can’t go we’re they please people can’t drop out of society well they can almost all live like in washed early man.

[Marsh.]

No. There is so much wrong with it.

Willingly buying smart phones, computers etc versus being legally compelled to have something put into your body is crossing a line that we should not be comfortable with.

[AnnieK]

How many people actually live off grid and how many want to live like a cave man or woman , not many

And those that live off are working each day just to themselves in food.

People can’t do as they please and they can’t go we’re they please people can’t drop out of society well they can almost all live like in washed early man.

No-one should ever be able to make you put anything in your body. The government can track your movements enough.

[Beso]

It has its pros and cons.

I cant say I would be fussed either way.

[Captain.Remy]

It has its pros and cons.

I cant say I would be fussed either way.

I love this unbothered, non-energetic, most pageant answer :joker:

[GoldHeart]

No. There is so much wrong with it.

Willingly buying smart phones, computers etc versus being legally compelled to have something put into your body is crossing a line that we should not be comfortable with.

I honestly think it WILL happen still though , next thing you know they'll be talking about it on BBC news how they've microchipped someone's brain for the first time.

[Alf]

This is the kind of thing David Icke warned is going to happen and he was passed off as a crazy conspiracy theorist. Now people are discussing it as a viable option.

[Marsh.]

I honestly think it WILL happen still though , next thing you know they'll be talking about it on BBC news how they've microchipped someone's brain for the first time.

Oh without a doubt, it's why it's so unnerving that as a population we're allowing it to come into fruition with us gradually surrendering our freedoms over time to the point that by the time it may happen we'll think nothing of it.