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arista
18-03-2021, 07:10 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/sturgeon-misled-parliament-over-role-in-salmond-investigation-committee-finds-12249817


[A Scottish parliamentary committee has
concluded that First Minister Nicola Sturgeon
misled parliament.

Sky News understands that Holyrood's
harassment committee has reached the
conclusion by a majority vote ahead of the
publication of its final report.]

She must resign.


Nicola Sturgeon misled committee
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-56451170

Smithy
18-03-2021, 07:11 PM
Wonder how many of the people that will demand she resigns didnt demand the same when boris/Matt Hancock/every other Tory going did the same :think:

hijaxers
18-03-2021, 07:24 PM
https://news.sky.com/story/sturgeon-misled-parliament-over-role-in-salmond-investigation-committee-finds-12249817


[A Scottish parliamentary committee has
concluded that First Minister Nicola Sturgeon
misled parliament.

Sky News understands that Holyrood's
harassment committee has reached the
conclusion by a majority vote ahead of the
publication of its final report.]

She must resign.

Oh dear where's the sword ! Lies turn to Karma.

MTVN
18-03-2021, 07:24 PM
Her position is now untenable

bots
18-03-2021, 07:42 PM
it will go to a vote in parliament now. Many were waiting to hear the outcome of the inquiry before stating a position. It will be a close vote, she may yet survive it, but her reputation is in tatters and there is an election coming up

Oliver_W
18-03-2021, 07:50 PM
A dishonest politician? Who has ever heard of such a thing :rolleyes:

arista
18-03-2021, 10:49 PM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/Di1WeUwTErqDRPv4zy2XBw/https/media.fyre.co/moREKKTVQOuxT41DqiEX_thei.jpg

arista
18-03-2021, 11:05 PM
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Cherie
19-03-2021, 06:49 AM
The irony that Salmond could bring her down, I think she will survive albeit with a blotted copy book

UserSince2005
19-03-2021, 07:18 AM
This bitch is so corrupt, cut her open and the caviar would explode out.

Crimson Dynamo
19-03-2021, 07:38 AM
The Holyrood inquiry is due to publish its report next week, however last night a leaked version concluded she had committed a "potential breach" of the ministerial code but stopped short of saying she did so "knowingly" – the normal threshold for resignation.

DT

AnnieK
19-03-2021, 07:52 AM
The middle of a pandemic is probably not the time for a new leader really. I think she will survive this but will not be there when elections come back around.

joeysteele
19-03-2021, 08:02 AM
I think I'll wait for the official result of the inquiry and it's full wording.

This has been a tricky issue.
It was really bad that Salmond was accused of things he hadn't in law.

However, he I feel has acted really badly all through before and during the investigation into his charges.

I actually feel he put Nicola Sturgeon in a difficult position.
She was a far more loyal supporter to him when he was First Minister.
I always felt Salmond was a little untrustworthy.

I hope Nicola Sturgeon survives this.
She has taken the SNP to a stronger position than he ever had it.
Maybe that's his real gripe, that she'll succeed where he couldn't.

It's separate yes, however we have a Prime Minister who was found by 2 high courts, one in Scotland and England.
To have acted unlawfully in office.

We've had a Minister, found to have acted unlawfully with public money on contracting.

Neither have resigned or been pressed to.

So those calling for Nicola Sturgeon's downfall, in this high pressured period of this Salmond mess.
While accepting and dismissing those previous examples of the PM and Minister, is a bit rich in my view.

I hope whatever Nicola Sturgeon survives this onslaught, she is in my view, support her or not, a formidable leader.
In my view still, likely the best anywhere across the UK.
Whether National Westminster Parties or devolved Party leaders too.

I'll wait for the wording of the full results and conclusion of the inquiry.

However, if I was a member of the Scottish parliament or an MP anywhere.
I wouldn't be calling for her to go.

Plus this vote was only decided by 5 to 4.
Along party lines in the main then.

Toy Soldier
19-03-2021, 08:05 AM
The middle of a pandemic is probably not the time for a new leader really. I think she will survive this but will not be there when elections come back around.

Scottish Parliament elections are this May though.

bots
19-03-2021, 08:07 AM
it's a political process, just like the trump impeachment, the difference here is that a 2/3rds majority is not required to obtain a "guilty" verdict. At the end of the day, its for voters to decide and that opportunity is coming around quickly

Toy Soldier
19-03-2021, 08:10 AM
The whole thing is gross. Grubby pawing Salmond went to her when allegations came out against him and she potentially breached the ministerial code out of loyalty to him as her mentor, and he's later come back and used that in an attempt to erroneously clear his own tarnished name ("not proven guilty" does NOT mean "proven innocent") and bring her down.

All with the clamouring, blaring support of Scottish Nationalist gammons who never wanted Salmond replaced with Sturgeon, and Scottish Unionist gammons who want to use it to nip the independence movement in the bud, and English gammons who as far as I can tell are just bitter that Scotland exists as a separate entity in the first place.

A buffet.

Ammi
19-03-2021, 08:11 AM
...can I ask a genuine question, it’s not a ‘whataboutery’, it is a genuine pondering...with the breach of ministerial code...?...surely that has to show consistency and when Priti Patel was found to have breached that, her position was still secured by Boris...and surely that’s setting a precedent...or leaving it open for any breaches to be meaningless and enquiries pointless...

Toy Soldier
19-03-2021, 08:13 AM
At the end of the day, its for voters to decide and that opportunity is coming around quickly

Not really, I don't see many "overall SNP" supporters voting differently even if they think she should go. The only viable alternative in most constituencies is Tory and the likelihood of someone who voted SNP in the last election flipping to Tory, in a Scottish election, is very low. If they're going to take any stand it would more likely be to not vote at all/spoil the ballot.

Ammi
19-03-2021, 08:13 AM
The whole thing is gross. Grubby pawing Salmond went to her when allegations came out against him and she potentially breached the ministerial code out of loyalty to him as her mentor, and he's later come back and used that in an attempt to erroneously clear his own tarnished name ("not proven guilty" does NOT mean "proven innocent") and bring her down.

All with the clamouring, blaring support of Scottish Nationalist gammons who never wanted Salmond replaced with Sturgeon, and Scottish Unionist gammons who want to use it to nip the independence movement in the bud, and English gammons who as far as I can tell are just bitter that Scotland exists as a separate entity in the first place.

A buffet.

...is it also because she has such determination for another Independence referendum...that high end political guns are now aimed firmly at her...?..

Crimson Dynamo
19-03-2021, 08:13 AM
As far as i can see it will have zero effect on the SNP vote here, just something for the other minor parties to use as a stick. More of a political thing than something that will resonate with voters

How Nicola has handled the pandemic I think is what people will vote with come May

Toy Soldier
19-03-2021, 08:16 AM
...can I ask a genuine question, it’s not a ‘whataboutery’, it is a genuine pondering...with the breach of ministerial code...?...surely that had to show consistency and when Priti Patel was found to have breached that, her position was still secured by Boris...and surely that’s setting a precedent...or leaving it open for any breaches to be meaningless and enquiries pointless...

There are literally countless examples of Westminster politicians doing things quite openly and deliberately that are grounds for being removed ... at this point, I don't think anyone even expects anything to happen ... and the Westminster government has learned that there is basically zero fallout from just ignoring it.

I think part of the issue with Wee Nic is that she has always operated from a "we're better than this" platform, and if it sticks in people's minds that she's potentially just another dirty politician, that impacts her credibility when she calls out others (like Boris).

Toy Soldier
19-03-2021, 08:19 AM
As far as i can see it will have zero effect on the SNP vote here, just something for the other minor parties to use as a stick. More of a political thing than something that will resonate with voters

How Nicola has handled the pandemic I think is what people will vote with come May

Indeed - most of the jeering and harsh criticism is coming from Unionists who have never and will never vote SNP. There is an element of SNP support that plumps for Salmond... but as above, not to the extent that they're realistically going to flip Tory just to get rid of Sturgeon. They want the SNP still in and Nic replaced... they don't want the SNP out.

joeysteele
19-03-2021, 08:19 AM
...is it also because she has such determination for another Independence referendum...that high end political guns are now aimed firmly at her...?..

Absolutely Ammi.

I believe there's a genuine fear she could persuade and succeed enough at that.
So yes on anything at all, there are those political opponents who will fire all at her.

I hope they have and think they have underestimated her, as I said before she is formidable.

Why on earth should anyone be surprised to hear the Scottish Cons are calling for her to go already, they were before this vote.

Because they fear what she can achieve in a vote on independence indeed.
I don't think she should stand down myself and I hope she doesn't.

Ammi
19-03-2021, 08:21 AM
There are literally countless examples of Westminster politicians doing things quite openly and deliberately that are grounds for being removed ... at this point, I don't think anyone even expects anything to happen ... and the Westminster government has learned that there is basically zero fallout from just ignoring it.

I think part of the issue with Wee Nic is that she has always operated from a "we're better than this" platform, and if it sticks in people's minds that she's potentially just another dirty politician, that impacts her credibility when she calls out others (like Boris).

...yeah, I totally get that as well and obviously I’m not going to defend or condone any ‘dirty’ but crikey, I would think that politics would be difficult not to get grubby with...it really doesn’t seem to be very much based on any integrity whatsoever, or very little that is visible...but yeah, no excusing...

Toy Soldier
19-03-2021, 08:24 AM
...yeah, I totally get that as well and obviously I’m not going to defend or condone any ‘dirty’ but crikey, I would think that politics would be difficult not to get grubby with...it really doesn’t seem to be very much based on any integrity whatsoever, or very little that is visible...but yeah, no excusing...

Not just difficult, I imagine it's more or less impossible to get to the top of your political area without getting a LITTLE grubby. I'm not saying that's OK really, just the reality... if someone else is willing to bend the rules and you aren't, they're probably going to take your spot at the table. There are plenty of politicians who stay squeaky clean, I'm sure, but they're not in leadership positions :umm2:.

MTVN
19-03-2021, 08:35 AM
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MTVN
19-03-2021, 08:36 AM
Polls now trending towards the SNP not getting a majority in the May elections and No regaining its lead in independence polls so I think this certainly has had an effect

Cherie
19-03-2021, 08:39 AM
As far as i can see it will have zero effect on the SNP vote here, just something for the other minor parties to use as a stick. More of a political thing than something that will resonate with voters

How Nicola has handled the pandemic I think is what people will vote with come May

How she has handled the pandemic?

since the start of the outbreak:

7,536 people have died who have tested positive as at 18 March
9,831 deaths have been registered in Scotland where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate up to 14 March
33% of COVID-19 registered deaths related to deaths in care homes, 60% were in hospitals and 6% were at home or non-institutional settings (as at 14 March)

compare that to the Republic which has a similar size population and under 3,000 deaths :skull:

Crimson Dynamo
19-03-2021, 08:49 AM
How she has handled the pandemic?

since the start of the outbreak:

7,536 people have died who have tested positive as at 18 March
9,831 deaths have been registered in Scotland where COVID-19 was mentioned on the death certificate up to 14 March
33% of COVID-19 registered deaths related to deaths in care homes, 60% were in hospitals and 6% were at home or non-institutional settings (as at 14 March)

compare that to the Republic which has a similar size population and under 3,000 deaths :skull:

the republic is not joined to England and wales

Toy Soldier
19-03-2021, 08:53 AM
Polls now trending towards the SNP not getting a majority in the May elections and No regaining its lead in independence polls so I think this certainly has had an effect

Part of the drop in independence support will be from the surge in Euroscepticism because of the whole "vaccines shambles" on the continent. People are far less confident in leaving the UK with a view to fully rejoining the EU because ... well let's face it at the moment they're looking petty and incompetent.

It's a tough one for me because overall I am in full support of independent Scottish governance but I also don't think this is the time at all... we need calmer seas to focus on something like that and the world is currently in chaos. I edge towards Devomax over Independence, currently, but will still be voting SNP because there simply isn't another party that will pursue devolution of power; the only viable opposition to the SNP is the Tories and I wouldn't trust them for a second to not simply start shovelling the devolved powers we already have back down to Daddy Westminster, let alone continue seeking further devolution.

bots
19-03-2021, 09:01 AM
trump got amazing voter response and he ****ed up a pandemic, took help from foreign governments and was the most corrupt leader in american history :laugh:

Voters just don't respond how we expect them to anymore, that rule book has firmly gone out the window. But, she can still be ridiculed mercilessly whatever the outcome, and that will be the future if she remains the head of the SNP

Cherie
19-03-2021, 09:03 AM
the republic is not joined to England and wales

So she hasn’t done that well then, it’s just a false narrative that is pushed relentlessly

bots
19-03-2021, 09:06 AM
the republic is not joined to England and wales

As Margaret Covid demonstrated, Scottish people infected English people obeying the rules

Cherie
19-03-2021, 09:11 AM
As Margaret Covid demonstrated, Scottish people infected English people obeying the rules

:laugh:

arista
19-03-2021, 09:45 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew1RcEmWUAElTVY?format=jpg&name=small

Crimson Dynamo
19-03-2021, 10:07 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ew1RcEmWUAElTVY?format=jpg&name=small

i guess there was no space left on the front page for

"but did not do it knowingly"

:think:

arista
19-03-2021, 10:11 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/19/10/article-9379833-40674692-695_964x543.jpg

Oliver_W
19-03-2021, 10:27 AM
I don't know much about political protocol when it comes to lies, was what she said/did objectively worse than day to day fibs?

bots
19-03-2021, 10:30 AM
it ends up a bit like watergate, it's not so much about the deed itself, its about the lengths that were gone to, to cover it all up

arista
19-03-2021, 10:31 AM
Full Report on Tuesday.

BBC reports

arista
20-03-2021, 12:56 PM
[Ex-finance secretary Derek Mackay quits SNP after suspension
Renfrewshire North and West MSP resigned
from his post last year over messages he sent to a teenage boy]

Nonce gone.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/20/ex-finance-secretary-derek-mackay-quits-snp-suspension

Beso
20-03-2021, 02:04 PM
Even if you tipped her upside down and used her bristle head as a broom, you still wouldn't move enough **** to save her ass.

Beso
20-03-2021, 02:07 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/19/10/article-9379833-40674692-695_964x543.jpg

Lol..the masks to keep her lizard tongue off Salmond's gecko chin.

joeysteele
22-03-2021, 03:52 PM
Good to see the INDEPENDENT inquiry has found that Nicola Sturgeon didn't break the Ministerial code.
Nice one and no need at all to resign.

hijaxers
22-03-2021, 04:20 PM
Good to see the INDEPENDENT inquiry has found that Nicola Sturgeon didn't break the Ministerial code.
Nice one and no need at all to resign.

:joker::joker: Its not the end :nono:

Mitchell
22-03-2021, 04:33 PM
Good to see the INDEPENDENT inquiry has found that Nicola Sturgeon didn't break the Ministerial code.
Nice one and no need at all to resign.

Brilliant news :love:

Cherie
22-03-2021, 04:33 PM
Who did she pay off?

joeysteele
22-03-2021, 05:14 PM
Nobody paid off.
It's an independent inquiry not a political party one.

joeysteele
22-03-2021, 05:37 PM
Brilliant news :love:

She'll likely get stronger criticism from the MSPs committee who've already been critical

I'll always take an independent inquiry's result over a MP committee one however.
Especially a committee made up of 4 more pro SNP and 5 anti.

Especially with pathetic Jackie Baillie from Labour on it too.

Beso
22-03-2021, 05:52 PM
A fair result....says alec Salmond as he slithers off before the press ask him about his not guilty verdict.

Crimson Dynamo
22-03-2021, 05:54 PM
all the newspapers (bar the National and Herald) will be fuming

:hehe:


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Toy Soldier
23-03-2021, 09:26 AM
Who did she pay off?

The guy who did the independent review and found that she hadn't breached ministerial code was appointed to the role by Salmond :idc:.

Toy Soldier
23-03-2021, 09:27 AM
all the newspapers (bar the National and Herald) will be fuming

:hehe:


https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article7471365.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS81781717.jpg

I noticed that arista had forgotten to post his big front pages in here :think: probably just an oversight so I;ve copied once across from the Covid thread for him.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7B77/production/_117670613_guardian-nc.png

Crimson Dynamo
23-03-2021, 09:27 AM
The guy who did the independent review and found that she hadn't breached ministerial code was appointed to the role by Salmond :idc:.

dat TS been drinking some Q tea?

arista
23-03-2021, 09:34 AM
There is a Vote
this afternoon on her

BBC reports she will Win.


Then they go off for a holiday

arista
23-03-2021, 09:36 AM
"I noticed that arista had forgotten to post his big front pages in here"


I was away in a meeting.
Thank you TS for posting today's Front Page.

arista
23-03-2021, 10:23 AM
Sturgeon evidence to Salmond committee 'misleading'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-56480968

joeysteele
23-03-2021, 10:27 AM
What the committee of MSPs have concluded is likely all they'd concluded even before they started the proceedings and talking to anyone
Especially the Con element of the committee and particularly Labour's Jackie Baillie who in my view couldn't be impartial if she even bothered to just try to be.

Yes there'll be a wasted vote from the Con contingent.
Which Nicola Sturgeon will win thanks also to the sensible Greens up there.

Labour wants to watch itself aligning itself to Douglas Ross and co of the Cons.

Ed Miliband did that in the independence referendum in 2014, then saw Labour near wiped out in Scotland.

I'll take the independent inquiry findings everytime over the sour grapes MSP one.
Especially with Jackie Baillie on it.

Crimson Dynamo
23-03-2021, 10:32 AM
The Scottish government introduced a harassment procedure rather too hastily which was inadequately specified. What the government needs to do now is come up with a new procedure that almost entirely has to be independent. So if any civil servant in the future makes a complaint about any minister, however powerful, it is adjudicated not within the civil service but outside. That is obviously a crucial lesson. If we focus on that, we will indeed have found a way of improving the way we are governed in future.

Sir John Curtice
Professor of Politics at Strathclyde University


:clap2:

bots
23-03-2021, 10:37 AM
it always will be about what the people decide at an election. Investigations are never impartial

Oliver_W
23-03-2021, 10:46 AM
Politicians lie all the time, what was it that made this ("alleged") instance worse?

arista
23-03-2021, 11:11 AM
Left Winger on LBC
now debating the SNP.

He just said if Scotland goes Independent
England will remain Conservative Forever

Crimson Dynamo
23-03-2021, 11:14 AM
Left Winger on LBC
now debating the SNP.

He just said if Scotland goes Independent
England will remain Conservative Forever

Its win:win :amazed:

joeysteele
23-03-2021, 11:28 AM
Left Winger on LBC
now debating the SNP.

He just said if Scotland goes Independent
England will remain Conservative Forever


Not really the case.
Labour would have won just about all the elections it did, except for perhaps 1974.
Without Scotland.

There's no way Labour wouldn't have won in 1945, 1966, 1997, 2001 and 2005 even if there'd been no Scottish Westminster seats.

There's only one Labour seat in Scotland at present anyway.

HOWEVER, this is why , Labour needs to ensure it now considers and goes for PR for elections now.
I'm part of the support to push for PR in elections.

Of course that would mean it unlikely any party would get an overall majority at Westminster, with or without Scotland.
It certainly means with barely 43% of the votes cast, the Cons will never likely again be able to take unfettered power as they did last tine.

So the more hard-line and heartless elements of the Con Party would be then eradicated.
If PR was introduced..
I hope those in Labour like myself will push for Labour to decide to run the road of PR.
It's way overdue and I believe would see Labour take the next election if they did adopt it.

Every other party wants it.
Only one doesn't and who would be panicking were Labour to go for it at last.
That is ONLY the Con party.

Toy Soldier
23-03-2021, 12:25 PM
dat TS been drinking some Q tea?

https://i.imgur.com/6S5C7Pd.png

Politicians lie all the time, what was it that made this ("alleged") instance worse?

It wasn't a Tory.

Left Winger on LBC
now debating the SNP.

He just said if Scotland goes Independent
England will remain Conservative Forever

It will anyway because Labour and SNP are resistant to going into coalition, which is the only realistic chance of forming a Westminster govt. for the foreseeable future.

Crimson Dynamo
23-03-2021, 12:45 PM
to lighten the mood, who remembers this documentary about wee Nic?

Vtpk0dH9LJM

joeysteele
23-03-2021, 03:35 PM
Nicola Sturgeon comfortably wins the no confidence vote.
65 supported her, 31 against.

Nice one

Oliver_W
24-03-2021, 06:24 AM
I don't care either way about her, but I love me a bit of political upheaval, so it would have been more interesting if she'd have lost it :D

joeysteele
24-03-2021, 06:33 AM
In my view she's the most formidable leader anywhere in the UK for any Party.

A great asset to politics.

I'm glad she's seen off this nonsense.
Now she can concentrate more on all her real aims and policies.

I'm pleased Salmond, the hypocritical Cons, and particularly Labour's Jackie Baillie came out of this looking really pathetic.
With Nicola Sturgeon, I think possibly strengthened from the INDEPENDENT inquiry's conclusions.
REALLY good to see.

GoldHeart
24-03-2021, 06:35 AM
Yeah i was about to highlight the hypocrisy with the other parties, Nicola means business and is clearly a force to be reckoned with.

Ammi
24-03-2021, 06:38 AM
"If you think you can bully me out of office, you are mistaken and you misjudge me.

"If you want to remove me as first minister, do it in an election."

Toy Soldier
24-03-2021, 07:58 AM
The real kicker here is, the mistakes she DID make were made because she initially felt loyalty to her old mentor (Salmond) who turned out to be a grubby pawing ******* ... and then he's tried to use the whole thing to bring her down in the hope of further clearing his own name :facepalm:. A truly hideous man. The MRA's jumping on the bandwagon and the unionists on both sides of the border keen to bend the narrative in their favour, whilst I won't say they're just as responsible as Salmond, are also a ****heap.

Ammi
24-03-2021, 08:21 AM
...tbh, I don’t know that much about Nicola and I’ve been fairly much ‘on the fence’ with her...not having too much of an opinion...?...but I’m really starting to like her a lot, she’s so stood her ground and it really does feel like all guns were aimed at her possibly because of her continued absolute determination for another Independence referendum...and the thought that, Salmond is the one, as you say, TS...who is really of such shabby character...

Crimson Dynamo
24-03-2021, 08:41 AM
The real kicker here is, the mistakes she DID make were made because she initially felt loyalty to her old mentor (Salmond) who turned out to be a grubby pawing ******* ... and then he's tried to use the whole thing to bring her down in the hope of further clearing his own name :facepalm:. A truly hideous man. The MRA's jumping on the bandwagon and the unionists on both sides of the border keen to bend the narrative in their favour, whilst I won't say they're just as responsible as Salmond, are also a ****heap.

the narrative has been bent so much by labour and cons up here that its almost a complete circle

which is odd

Cherie
24-03-2021, 09:02 AM
LT and TS bonding over their infactuation with wee Nicki :skull:

Toy Soldier
24-03-2021, 09:07 AM
LT and TS bonding over their infactuation with wee Nicki :skull:

He keeps PMing me pictures of Kate McCann but my eye will not stray from oor Nic.

Cherie
24-03-2021, 09:14 AM
He keeps PMing me pictures of Kate McCann but my eye will not stray from oor Nic.

:laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
24-03-2021, 09:21 AM
He keeps PMing me pictures of Kate McCann but my eye will not stray from oor Nic.

Its better than the Disney/Warner Bros cartoon porn i get sent from Marsh. If i have seen Olive Oil getting DP'd by Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn once iv seen it a million times

:bored:

Toy Soldier
24-03-2021, 09:57 AM
Its better than the Disney/Warner Bros cartoon porn i get sent from Marsh. If i have seen Olive Oil getting DP'd by Daffy Duck and Foghorn Leghorn once iv seen it a million times

:bored:

In all seriousness, me and the wife got a glimpse into the abyss because of Disney porn once. "Zootopia" porn to be specific. We saw a really elaborately drawn picture of Officer Judy Hopps and Nick Wilde getting frisky - really quite skilled art - and then thought "lol there's more?" and clicked the Tumblr link.

And sweet ****ing jesus.

We scrolled, and scrolled and scrolled and scrolled, through what I can only assume was TENS OF THOUSANDS of beautifully drawn, extremely explicit Zootopia images and it just wouldn't stop. The more we scrolled, the more loaded in. Eventually we just held down the scroll button and let it scroll fast and it just... kept going. There weren't duplicates that we could see... every picture was unique... every one hand drawn by someone with real skill. We scrolled for nearly 15 minutes and then gave up, because it wouldn't end?!?

So yeah that was the day I discovered that not only does a Zootopia porn tumblr exist - but that it has I can only imagine hundreds of thousands of unique, skillful, hand drawn images of a rabbit in a police uniform getting railed by a fox (and a lion, and a bull, and I think maybe a hippo). It might actually be infinite.

Toy Soldier
24-03-2021, 10:12 AM
...I mean it makes no sense that a human or even a group of people could generate so many... I think they're being churned out by some sort of perverted advanced AI... and at the heat death of the universe... all that will be left is an interstellar data stream containing an unfathomable quantity of Judy Hopps porn... :worry: ...

arista
24-03-2021, 03:17 PM
Alex Salmond is going back to Court.
He says documentation has not been used



He has put out a Statement
SkyNewsHD

joeysteele
24-03-2021, 04:59 PM
Why did he not raise this before, that will be the big question now.

I doubt he'll get anywhere after the independent inquiry's findings.

He really is starting to make himself look more sleazy than some thought him to be before.

Really pathetic in my view, I hope his games are seen through and stopped finally.

Toy Soldier
24-03-2021, 06:31 PM
Alex Salmond is going back to Court.
He says documentation has not been used



He has put out a Statement
SkyNewsHD


He's starting to do a Trump. Back to court! Back to court! And leaving with egg on his face every time.

joeysteele
24-03-2021, 06:45 PM
He just cannot stand someone else in power that's not him in my view.

Cannot bear to think anyone could be more successful than him.

I recall on a QT episode, the then Scottish Con leader Annabel Goldie, ( who is another Con I admire), describing him as him strutting about thinking he was President of Scotland.

What a sad figure he's making himself to look now.
Really sad figure indeed.

MTVN
24-03-2021, 06:47 PM
Alex Salmond is going back to Court.
He says documentation has not been used



He has put out a Statement
SkyNewsHD

Good luck to him

joeysteele
24-03-2021, 06:53 PM
He's starting to do a Trump. Back to court! Back to court! And leaving with egg on his face every time.

Just seen this.
Yes, I hope he does leave as you say this time too.