School in West Yorkshire 'showed the Prophet Muhammad Cartoon in a RE class

[arista]

The Teacher has been Suspended

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/25/11/40927152-9401527-image-a-115_1616673175117.jpg
Police are stopping it
get out of hand.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/25/12/40929178-9401527-image-a-129_1616676332524.jpg
Protestors Demand he is Sacked.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/25/16/40937790-9401527-image-m-161_1616688354035.jpg
[Batley Grammar School headteacher
Gary Kibble, pictured today, has since apologised
for the 'inappropriate' resource]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9401527/Furious-parents-protest-Prophet-Muhammad-cartoon-shown-class.html

[One parent at the school said the cartoon was taken
from Charlie Hebdo, the French satirical magazine
that was attacked in 2015 by Islamist terrorists
who killed 12 people in Paris.
A teacher has been suspended and the school
was forced to apologise, admitting the image was "totally inappropriate".]

https://news.sky.com/story/batley-grammar-school-protest-over-image-of-prophet-mohammed-shown-in-class-unacceptable-say-education-officials-12256247



Sign Of The Times.

[Beso]

That bloke should have a peg on his grey beard, not his mask.

[arista]

That bloke should have a peg on his grey beard, not his mask.

Sure it would help

[Crimson Dynamo]

the more we can expose superstition and indoctrinated falsehoods the better

[UserSince2005]

Someone has a death wish

[Oliver_W]

Why should he have been suspended, and why should the school apologize? We're not living under blasphemy laws.

I just hope he stays safe, we've seen what happens to teachers who show cartoons which annoy them...

Interesting how the protesters are okay with following a text that is full of violence and hatred, but showing a cartoon of a dead paedo is what crosses the line...

[Marsh.]

the more we can expose superstition and indoctrinated falsehoods the better

The irony.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why should he have been suspended, and why should the school apologize? We're not living under blasphemy laws.

I just hope he stays safe, we've seen what happens to teachers who show cartoons which annoy them...

Interesting how the protesters are okay with following a text that is full of violence and hatred, but showing a cartoon of a dead paedo is what crosses the line...

Precisely

[Mystic Mock]

But the Teacher didn't do anything wrong?:confused:

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Cherie]

The teacher is now in hiding, are we living in the West or in some regime?

[Oliver_W]

The teacher is now in hiding, are we living in the West or in some regime?

I'm just glad islam is the religion of peace, or I'd be really worried about his safety...

[Cherie]

I'm just glad islam is the religion of peace, or I'd be really worried about his safety...

That mob should have been dispersed by police, what’s wrong with complaining by email or over the phone

[Crimson Dynamo]

The school is now shut

[Nicky91]

people never learn i see


i mean attacks like the charlie hepdo office one, or another teacher beheading in france even more recently


one would think we would all be more careful regarding prophet muhammad




Islam, according to koran is ''anti-terrorism'' so if this teacher gets any death threats it are radical extremists, like i said many times before and i still stand by my opinion on this, these sicko's are a disgrace for their own religion too whom i don't count as muslims myself (the real muslims are the victims here as well, who get verbal and physical abuse cuz of the actions of those terrorist lunatics)

[arista]

The teacher is now in hiding, are we living in the West or in some regime?



There will be Strict Muslims that
want that Teacher killed.


Some kids that were in that class
will let the Strict Muslims
know who that Teacher is.

[UserSince2005]

There will be Strict Muslims that
want that Teacher killed.


Some kids that were in that class
will let the Strict Muslims
know who that Teacher is.

They dont just want him killed, they want him beheaded, how barbaric.

[arista]

They dont just want him killed, they want him beheaded, how barbaric.



Like the French Teacher
a year ago or so.

[Oliver_W]

people never learn i see


i mean attacks like the charlie hepdo office one, or another teacher beheading in france even more recently


one would think we would all be more careful regarding prophet muhammad




Islam, according to koran is ''anti-terrorism'' so if this teacher gets any death threats it are radical extremists, like i said many times before and i still stand by my opinion on this, these sicko's are a disgrace for their own religion too whom i don't count as muslims myself (the real muslims are the victims here as well, who get verbal and physical abuse cuz of the actions of those terrorist lunatics)

Even if their religious texts were anti-terrorism, what actually matters is how they're interpreted and enacted in the world. And the way they're currently being followed is rather pro-terror, and anti-freedom.

[Ammi]

...this are words from Qari Asim...

Asim, chair of the Mosques and Imams National Advisory Board and imam of the Makkah mosque in Leeds, said: “People have a right to express their concerns and hurt but protests can’t always achieve what can be achieved through constructive dialogue. Fair investigation by the school, in consultation with the parents, should be allowed to take place. We do not want to fan the flames of Islamophobia and provoke hatred or division.”

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...seriously Arista, any threats of violence or fears of violence would not be from ‘strict Muslims’, it would be from extremists/terrorists...


....the focus now for everyone/the school and the community needs to be how to move forward from this and as Qari Asim has said, communication is the key...and the defusing of any heightened feelings atm...

[UserSince2005]

...this are words from Qari Asim...

Asim, chair of the Mosques and Imams National Advisory Board and imam of the Makkah mosque in Leeds, said: “People have a right to express their concerns and hurt but protests can’t always achieve what can be achieved through constructive dialogue. Fair investigation by the school, in consultation with the parents, should be allowed to take place. We do not want to fan the flames of Islamophobia and provoke hatred or division.”

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...seriously Arista, any threats of violence or fears of violence would not be from ‘strict Muslims’, it would be from extremists/terrorists...


....the focus now for everyone/the school and the community needs to be how to move forward from this and as Qari Asim has said, communication is the key...and the defusing of any heightened feelings atm...

If you keep burying your head in the sand you wont have a head to bury before long.

[arista]

...this are words from Qari Asim...

Asim, chair of the Mosques and Imams National Advisory Board and imam of the Makkah mosque in Leeds, said: “People have a right to express their concerns and hurt but protests can’t always achieve what can be achieved through constructive dialogue. Fair investigation by the school, in consultation with the parents, should be allowed to take place. We do not want to fan the flames of Islamophobia and provoke hatred or division.”

1375354762095427587

...seriously Arista, any threats of violence or fears of violence would not be from ‘strict Muslims’, it would be from extremists/terrorists...


....the focus now for everyone/the school and the community needs to be how to move forward from this and as Qari Asim has said, communication is the key...and the defusing of any heightened feelings atm...



Extreme Muslims Yes

[Oliver_W]

...this are words from Qari Asim...

Asim, chair of the Mosques and Imams National Advisory Board and imam of the Makkah mosque in Leeds, said: “People have a right to express their concerns and hurt but protests can’t always achieve what can be achieved through constructive dialogue. Fair investigation by the school, in consultation with the parents, should be allowed to take place. We do not want to fan the flames of Islamophobia and provoke hatred or division.”

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...seriously Arista, any threats of violence or fears of violence would not be from ‘strict Muslims’, it would be from extremists/terrorists...


....the focus now for everyone/the school and the community needs to be how to move forward from this and as Qari Asim has said, communication is the key...and the defusing of any heightened feelings atm...
It shouldn't even be investigated, freedoms shouldn't bow down to a religion. Especially with the threat of violence hanging over things, that's pretty much
bowing down to terrorism.

[bots]

The teacher knew exactly what he was doing and what it would stir up. It was obviously premeditated. It's a long time since I did anything close to religious education (it wasn't big in Scotland :smug:) but, is it appropriate to mock any religion in a RE class - i don't think so

That aside, the point has been made. Those with strong religious beliefs think they can tear down our democracy if it conflicts with their religion and that has to be stamped out quickly

[Cherie]

The teacher knew exactly what he was doing and what it would stir up. It was obviously premeditated. It's a long time since I did anything close to religious education (it wasn't big in Scotland :smug:) but, is it appropriate to mock any religion in a RE class - i don't think so

That aside, the point has been made. Those with strong religious beliefs think they can tear down our democracy if it conflicts with their religion and that has to be stamped out quickly

We don't know the context he used the image though? I doubt after what happened in France he wanted to stir up controversy!

[bots]

We don't know the context he used the image though? I doubt after what happened in France he wanted to stir up controversy!

If you were in a religious studies class, would you expect your religion to be mocked? Don't get me wrong, i'm all for it, but I wouldn't expect it to be validated by the school. He obviously knew that, it's an emotive cartoon. I feel certain he did it knowingly to raise the issue in the community

[Oliver_W]

If you were in a religious studies class, would you expect your religion to be mocked? Don't get me wrong, i'm all for it, but I wouldn't expect it to be validated by the school. He obviously knew that, it's an emotive cartoon. I feel certain he did it knowingly to raise the issue in the community

It doesn't matter why he did it, he should be able to show a satirical drawing without his life being endangered and the only apologies being made are for his actions.

[arista]

The school is now shut


[School where teacher showed pupils
cartoons of Prophet Mohammed is forced to SHUT
and he is put under police protection
as dozens of protesters picket gates
for second day despite Gavin Williamson's
ringing condemnation of them]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9405577/Protesters-line-outside-Batley-school-second-day.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/26/08/40967072-9405577-image-a-44_1616747555901.jpg
[The protesters, all Muslim men, are angry
that the RE teacher allegedly showed cartoons
of the Prophet Mohammed to students.]

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its the schools job to tell them that Gods do not exist

these silly men should go home

[Oliver_W]

. I feel certain he did it knowingly to raise the issue in the community

That's a fair reason to do it, to be fair. The way the parents ("parents") reacted, you can bet the kids don't get to see much of freedom, so it's only fair to demonstrate this.

[arista]

Its the schools job to tell them that Gods do not exist

these silly men should go home



Those men may want to kill the teacher

[rusticgal]

It doesn't matter why he did it, he should be able to show a satirical drawing without his life being endangered and the only apologies being made are for his actions.



I agree...however there is no freedom of speech anymore because people get offended by the slightest thing and twist it into something it isn’t.
Considering it was a highly populated Muslim school I think it was a stupid and disrespectful thing to do by a teacher...especially what happened to the teacher in France. Then again we shouldn’t have to yield to Terrorists and murderers.
Sadly it’s the world we now live in.

[Oliver_W]

I agree...however there is no freedom of speech anymore because people get offended by the slightest thing and twist it into something it isn’t.
Considering it was a highly populated Muslim school I think it was a stupid and disrespectful thing to do by a teacher...

No religion deserves respect tbh :shrug: But I agree it was a stupid move, as of course his life would be in danger...

[Cherie]

Do we know in what context the picture was shown? Given he was teaching RE its likely he was making a point about religion being mocked, I seriously doubt he was trying to offend, any more than if they showed the Life of Brian

[rusticgal]

Do we know in what context the picture was shown? Given he was teaching RE its likely he was making a point about religion being mocked, I seriously doubt he was trying to offend, any more than if they showed the Life of Brian


I dont suppose he took it in the class and said "Hey everyone take a look at this...." :laugh:

However Cherie...whatever context it was in it was a risque thing to do although I am a great believer in Freedom of Speech.

[rusticgal]

[QUOTE=Oliver_W;11024234]No religion deserves respect tbh :shrug:/QUOTE]


Well I am not a religious person...but I think we should respect people that have one. Having said that...religious people should also respect those that dont have a religion. It should work both ways.
This demonstration could just escalate...the point has been made...the Teacher is being dealt with...

[arista]

The Protestors Demand that Teacher is Sacked.

[Cherie]

Whatever the grievance is here, this is not a normal way to carry on over an school incident take it up via the professional channels that are available to parents if they have an issue with a teacher

[Cherie]

The Protestors Demand that Teacher is Sacked.

So much for inclusion, works one way only

[Beso]

These people could be looking for an opportunity to slice that mans head off, yet we see more police hounding someone for filming in public.

[Kazanne]

These people could be looking for an opportunity to slice that mans head off, yet we see more police hounding someone for filming in public.

Bloody fanatical some people over religion,flaming ridiculous. and yes they would happily behead that teacher for it , madness.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Cherie]

An Iman on the news tonight said the protest has been hijacked, tend to agree with him as it appeared to be mainly young men in their teens and early 20s, that said if they went through the proper channels to express their grievance in the first place like every other parent does, there would be nothing to hijack

[Beso]

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Maybe he found a peg.:joker:

[Oliver_W]

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[armand.kay]

Sorry, but why the hell would you do this? In a school?

[Oliver_W]

Sorry, but why the hell would you do this? In a school?

We don't live in a caliphate, so the real question is why the hell shouldn't he?

[Nicky91]

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wow even that newspaper will never learn from past mistakes :facepalm:


wouldn't be surprised if this leads to another attack at their offices :umm2:

[bots]

he certainly shouldn't be suspended or fired for what he did

[Oliver_W]

wow even that newspaper will never learn from past mistakes :facepalm:


wouldn't be surprised if this leads to another attack at their offices :umm2:

Victim blaming.

[rusticgal]

On the news last night it said that he had been teaching the meaning of Blasphemy...:shrug:

[arista]

Sorry, but why the hell would you do this? In a school?



It has been done before
all part of Education.


Just one kid told his Strict Muslim Dad

[arista]

On the news last night it said that he had been teaching the meaning of Blasphemy...:shrug:


Other schools
have done the same lesson
no problem

[Oliver_W]

How did we get to the point where people who soil themselves over the thought of a cartoon of a dead paedo are actually being listened to? Especially after all the things that happened in France...

[Cherie]

On the news last night it said that he had been teaching the meaning of Blasphemy...:shrug:

sounds about right

[Alf]

Blasphemy laws alive and well in the UK in 2021.

If they wearn't then this teacher wouldn't have been suspended.

[Oliver_W]

Students at his school have started a petition to reinstate him.

https://www.change.org/p/reinstate-the-rs-teacher-that-has-been-suspended-at-batley-grammar-school

But we all know how these things play out; if he does go back, he'll either be murdered or the school will get blown up. Sadly the best thing that needs to happen is he needs to be given a new identity.

[Kazanne]

This to me is where racism gets mixed up with culture, I do not like these sort of fanatics they are dangerous and have no place in our society its not how we roll, If its something they believe in they should be where this sort of thing is acceptable, its not here, and we should not be getting rid of teachers etc,because a group of people believe their culture is above any other. They have no tolerance for any other culture,but we are supposed to bow to theirs, its just wrong imo.Whatever happened to live and let live.

[Cherie]

This to me is where racism gets mixed up with culture, I do not like these sort of fanatics they are dangerous and have no place in our society its not how we roll, If its something they believe in they should be where this sort of thing is acceptable, its not here, and we should not be getting rid of teachers etc,because a group of people believe their culture is above any other. They have no tolerance for any other culture,but we are supposed to bow to theirs, its just wrong imo.Whatever happened to live and let live.

agree, the intent was not to disrespect, this is a state school in England which caters for students from all faiths and none.

The RS Teacher was trying to educate students about racism and blasphemy. He warned the students before showing the images and he had the intent to educate them.

[Alf]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

It's made up bollocks

Accept it