Prince Harry & Meghan - Official Discussion Thread

[Josy]

This is the new official thread for any discussion/news or articles about Prince Harry and/or Meghan.

Please respect other members at ALL times and post within the forum rules.

Thanks.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Good article in todays Mail by Jan Moir - about Harry and his "jobs":

The crux is below

Perhaps his first task as Fake News Commissioner will be an investigation into himself,
in which he will find himself wanting, and send himself a stern memo. The new
positions are just what you might expect from a self-styled global philanthropist who
wants to change the world by telling everyone else what to do; positions that are elite,
vague, grandiose and — one suspects — largely ornamental.

Certainly nothing that involves scholarship, hard toil or personal sacrifice. And
everything that involves the exploitation of the royal status and hinterland from which
the Prince was so desperate to escape.

Commissioner? Impact Officer? The fancy titles are typical of that cloying Californian
wellness environment where someone who works in a shop is called a 'retail customer
experience ambassador' and a van driver is a 'vehicle operations specialist'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9404277/JAN-MOIR-Prince-Harry-got-perfect-CV-Mickey-Mouse-executive.html

[user104658]

Good article in todays Mail by Jan Moir - about Harry and his "jobs":

The crux is below

Perhaps his first task as Fake News Commissioner will be an investigation into himself,
in which he will find himself wanting, and send himself a stern memo. The new
positions are just what you might expect from a self-styled global philanthropist who
wants to change the world by telling everyone else what to do; positions that are elite,
vague, grandiose and — one suspects — largely ornamental.

Certainly nothing that involves scholarship, hard toil or personal sacrifice. And
everything that involves the exploitation of the royal status and hinterland from which
the Prince was so desperate to escape.

Commissioner? Impact Officer? The fancy titles are typical of that cloying Californian
wellness environment where someone who works in a shop is called a 'retail customer
experience ambassador' and a van driver is a 'vehicle operations specialist'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9404277/JAN-MOIR-Prince-Harry-got-perfect-CV-Mickey-Mouse-executive.html

To be fair, I can't argue that I don't particularly like top positions/high-paying positions going to people based on "who they are" more than their actual CV, I think it's a kick in the teeth for genuinely knowledgeable, skilled and experienced people who have slogged their way through academia and have a truly deep level of understanding and ability. But then - that is and has always been my entire problem with the concept of monarchy as a whole. People "born better", elevated and given status when 99.9% of the time there are more intelligent, better educated people who are 10x more suited to the job. However, the world is what it is and celebrity ambassadors are hardly a new thing, hardly limited to (literal) Royalty, and certainly the concept wasn't invented for Harry.

I would also strongly counter that none of the criticism should really be on the people accepting these roles when they're offered... assigning some sort of moral judgement of "well he should have turned it down!!" is nonsense. As always when people benefit from privilege, the blame isn't really on the people who take the opportunities, it lies with the people offering those opportunities so in this case people should be criticising the organisations he's working with for choosing to hire on profile and not ability, and not him.

Though here's one for LT to consider; Mr "the press is what it is because that's what people want :shrug: " ... These companies have hired Prince Harry to these positions because they think it will be financially advantageous to have his name attached to the brand. They believe this because they believe that that will sell to the people they're trying to sell to. This applies to all "celebrity endorsements" and so, just as with the front pages of the tabloids, do you not just have to accept it for what it is? It's "what people want". Or if it isn't, these organisations will be proven wrong.

[Cherie]

Good article in todays Mail by Jan Moir - about Harry and his "jobs":

The crux is below

Perhaps his first task as Fake News Commissioner will be an investigation into himself,
in which he will find himself wanting, and send himself a stern memo. The new
positions are just what you might expect from a self-styled global philanthropist who
wants to change the world by telling everyone else what to do; positions that are elite,
vague, grandiose and — one suspects — largely ornamental.

Certainly nothing that involves scholarship, hard toil or personal sacrifice. And
everything that involves the exploitation of the royal status and hinterland from which
the Prince was so desperate to escape.

Commissioner? Impact Officer? The fancy titles are typical of that cloying Californian
wellness environment where someone who works in a shop is called a 'retail customer
experience ambassador' and a van driver is a 'vehicle operations specialist'.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-9404277/JAN-MOIR-Prince-Harry-got-perfect-CV-Mickey-Mouse-executive.html


stand out comment from the article for me

[Ammi]

...(...I’m thinking...)...that those weren't vacant positions as such, but more roles created and titles given because the companies specifically wanted Harry as part of their team and their brand...obviously those are just my own thoughts...

[user104658]

stand out comment from the article for me

Again while I don't disagree, as above, you can't really place judgement on them for taking advantage of this; Harry has no marketable skills, qualifications or experience beyond "being an ambassador". They have no other realistic avenue to making money than leveraging their marketability. That's all wrapped up in the same thing; maybe he WOULD rather not have been a Senior Royal (or any sort of Royal) and have pursued a different career path - maybe he still can - but as things stand now, he's a 36 year old man and his CV reads "Army" and "Ambassadorial stuff". He can't join the US armed forces so that leaves the latter. The other option is just not having an income... which it seems people would be happier with.

[Crimson Dynamo]

snip

Though here's one for LT to consider; Mr "the press is what it is because that's what people want :shrug: " ... These companies have hired Prince Harry to these positions because they think it will be financially advantageous to have his name attached to the brand. They believe this because they believe that that will sell to the people they're trying to sell to. This applies to all "celebrity endorsements" and so, just as with the front pages of the tabloids, do you not just have to accept it for what it is? It's "what people want". Or if it isn't, these organisations will be proven wrong.

This does not mean that they cant be criticised or discussed critically. I know why they are doing it, to turn a coin.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The guy who will do Meghan's biog Tom Bower, wrote about her recently:

“Convinced of her own greatness, Meghan thinks she has, for years, been the victim of plots to destroy her destiny. While
others shone in leading roles, Meghan had bit parts,” he declared, adding that after she was written out of the television
series Suits, she “brilliantly... invented a new script” and “ruthlessly” carried out a carefully planned scheme to ensnare Prince
Harry. In his view, Meghan never intended to “sacrifice her Californian lifestyle and serve as a member of the Royal Family in
rainy Britain” for long.

“Refusing to show son Archie’s face to the camera after his birth and demanding privacy, while constantly speaking to US
journalists, confirmed her hypocrisy,” he went on, before comparing her unfavourably with Wallis Simpson (“[unlike] the Duke
and Duchess of Windsor... Meghan and Harry clearly do not care about the uproar they are causing”).



His final complaint is that “in her selfish manner, she believes that she is entitled to say what she wants to Oprah Winfrey
[and] those who criticise her inventions are racist and sexist.” Nobody is going to mistake his biography for a love letter, I
imagine.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/non-fiction/unlike-oprah-tom-bowers-unauthorised-biography-meghan-markle/

[GoldHeart]

Harry has a family to support, I think it's good what he's doing.
Do people want him working at Tesco on the checkout or something .

[Cherie]

Again while I don't disagree, as above, you can't really place judgement on them for taking advantage of this; Harry has no marketable skills, qualifications or experience beyond "being an ambassador". They have no other realistic avenue to making money than leveraging their marketability. That's all wrapped up in the same thing; maybe he WOULD rather not have been a Senior Royal (or any sort of Royal) and have pursued a different career path - maybe he still can - but as things stand now, he's a 36 year old man and his CV reads "Army" and "Ambassadorial stuff". He can't join the US armed forces so that leaves the latter. The other option is just not having an income... which it seems people would be happier with.

I find it hypocritical given the trauma they say they endured as being part of the Royal Family, its like an abused partner divorcing and still using their exes surname, of course the titles help but to continue to use Duke and Duchess while maligning the RF is at odds with their stance

In essence I think he is high profile enough to lose the titles and still get the positions

[jet]

Again while I don't disagree, as above, you can't really place judgement on them for taking advantage of this; Harry has no marketable skills, qualifications or experience beyond "being an ambassador". They have no other realistic avenue to making money than leveraging their marketability. That's all wrapped up in the same thing; maybe he WOULD rather not have been a Senior Royal (or any sort of Royal) and have pursued a different career path - maybe he still can - but as things stand now, he's a 36 year old man and his CV reads "Army" and "Ambassadorial stuff". He can't join the US armed forces so that leaves the latter. The other option is just not having an income... which it seems people would be happier with.

Multi millions from Netflix and Spotify, big inheritance from Diana, more cash from the Queen Mum when he reaches 40. I think he's just about managing. :)

[user104658]

This does not mean that they cant be criticised or discussed critically. I know why they are doing it, to turn a coin.

You seem pretty adamant that we shouldn't criticise the tabloids and media in general for leveraging "what people want to see"? You say it almost every time it comes up?

If you're saying you've reconsidered that stance I'm happy to take that as the explanation :hee:. Otherwise this looks an awful lot like hypocrisy :nono:.

[user104658]

Harry has a family to support, I think it's good what he's doing.
Do people want him working at Tesco on the checkout or something .

They want things to not work out, and for him to have to scurry back to The Family cap-in-hand. That is fairly obvious as the "dream scenario" for many people, here.

[Ammi]

...it’s interesting in view of Tom Bower’s methods of earning his 6 figure sum incomes and his upcoming unauthorised ‘bio’...that it’s Harry’s job that’s questionable in any way...

[Cherie]

They want things to not work out, and for him to have to scurry back to The Family cap-in-hand. That is fairly obvious as the "dream scenario" for many people, here.

Not from where I am standing or most who criticise them given we can speak for everyone

I can’t see any way back for him now

[bots]

i don't blame anyone for trying to make the most of the hand that they were dealt. We all do it. However, where people differ is in their ethical compass. How far an individual will push to maximise their personal gain. From where I am standing, Harry and Meghan have pushed it too far, that's my personal judgement. What I dislike is being lectured to on how I should or should not behave by someone I think has a pretty shoddy ethical compass in the first place.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You seem pretty adamant that we shouldn't criticise the tabloids and media in general for leveraging "what people want to see"? You say it almost every time it comes up?

If you're saying you've reconsidered that stance I'm happy to take that as the explanation :hee:. Otherwise this looks an awful lot like hypocrisy :nono:.

incorrect

i have not said they are beyond criticism, i have an issue with people thinking they are some separate entity at odds with society and with silly meaningless terms like toxic media etc

[Crimson Dynamo]

...it’s interesting in view of Tom Bower’s methods of earning his 6 figure sum incomes and his upcoming unauthorised ‘bio’...that it’s Harry’s job that’s questionable in any way...

writing a best selling book is not particularly easy i would imagine, its a bit more than some meet and greets

[The Slim Reaper]

Anti - Using terms like toxic media

Pro - Using the author of toxic pieces

https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/jan-moirs-column-on-stephen-gately-is-pccs-most-complained-about-article-ever/

Jan Moir’s column questioning the circumstances around the death of Boyzone singer Stephen Gately has now become the most complained about story in the history of the Press Complaints Commission.

"The sugar coating on this fatality is so saccharine-thick that it obscures whatever bitter truth lies beneath. Healthy and fit 33-year-old men do not just climb into their pyjamas and go to sleep on the sofa, never to wake up again. Whatever the cause of death is, it is not, by any yardstick, a natural one.”

under the carapace of glittering, hedonistic celebrity, the ooze of a very different and more dangerous lifestyle has seeped out for all to see

[Vicky.]

Healthy and fit 33-year-old men do not just climb into their pyjamas and go to sleep on the sofa, never to wake up again.

What the actual ****? Course they do. Its rare, but clearly happens.

Am also in the 'dont blame people taking advantage of the system, blame the broken system' boat tbh.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i don't blame anyone for trying to make the most of the hand that they were dealt. We all do it. However, where people differ is in their ethical compass. How far an individual will push to maximise their personal gain. From where I am standing, Harry and Meghan have pushed it too far, that's my personal judgement. What I dislike is being lectured to on how I should or should not behave by someone I think has a pretty shoddy ethical compass in the first place.

precisley Bots

Surely everyone can see the comedy hour hypocrisy of Harry's latest "job" in light of the errors, lies and fabrication that went on in the Oprah "interview"??

I am just staggered by the brass neck of it all

[user104658]

precisley Bots

Surely everyone can see the comedy hour hypocrisy of Harry's latest "job" in light of the errors, lies and fabrication that went on in the Oprah "interview"??


I'm yet to see anyone point any of these "errors, lies and fabrications" other than the one about getting married before the main ceremony which, as I;ve pointed out before, is not the "zinger gotcha!!" that people are desperate for it to be at all.

[rusticgal]

i don't blame anyone for trying to make the most of the hand that they were dealt. We all do it. However, where people differ is in their ethical compass. How far an individual will push to maximise their personal gain. From where I am standing, Harry and Meghan have pushed it too far, that's my personal judgement. What I dislike is being lectured to on how I should or should not behave by someone I think has a pretty shoddy ethical compass in the first place.



I absolutely agree.

[The Slim Reaper]

I never really come across either of them other than on here, so I don't even get the being lectured part. If you don't seek them out, they're pretty unobtrusive.

Nothing more than pantomime villains for the saggy white masses.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm yet to see anyone point any of these "errors, lies and fabrications" other than the one about getting married before the main ceremony which, as I;ve pointed out before, is not the "zinger gotcha!!" that people are desperate for it to be at all.

the newspaper headlines that were meant to be from UK were from all over and doctored to dramatise. ITV had to edit them out for later broadcast

[rusticgal]

I'm yet to see anyone point any of these "errors, lies and fabrications" other than the one about getting married before the main ceremony which, as I;ve pointed out before, is not the "zinger gotcha!!" that people are desperate for it to be at all.



Supporting Mental Health when he was unable to help his wife when she was ‘suicidal’ despite supporting Mental Health groups with William and Kate long before he even met Meghan.
....then he gets a role supporting ‘Misinformation’...During the interview Meghan was only too happy to declare they were married before the Big day. Although now corrected. Then we have the title of Prince insinuating he didn’t get it because of his skin colour and he was entitled to it....
The Racial conversation...Meghan claimed there were several conversations whilst she was pregnant...Harry said there was one before she was pregnant.

They are the ones that spring to mind...and although the words did not come out of his mouth he was happy for that to be broadcast.

No wonder people are tittering...:laugh:

[Ammi]

I never really come across either of them other than on here, so I don't even get the being lectured part. If you don't seek them out, they're pretty unobtrusive.

Nothing more than pantomime villains for the saggy white masses.

...yeah, very much this...their ‘storyline’ really is more a manufactured tabloid media hero/villain thing that is reliant on social media type sites mainly...and obviously we all discuss tabloid media stories as well ...but beyond that, they’re not a topic that enter any of my conversations either...

[user104658]

the newspaper headlines that were meant to be from UK were from all over and doctored to dramatise. ITV had to edit them out for later broadcast

I didn't know that Harry and Meghan were producers on Oprah?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I didn't know that Harry and Meghan were producers on Oprah?

i didnt know they got married 3 days before they did

this is the problem with misinformation you see Hazza

[Cherie]

...yeah, very much this...their ‘storyline’ really is more a manufactured tabloid media hero/villain thing that is reliant on social media type sites mainly...and obviously we all discuss tabloid media stories as well ...but beyond that, they’re not a topic that enter any of my conversations either...

Ammi most of the recent discussion has stemmed from their interview

[Cherie]

I never really come across either of them other than on here, so I don't even get the being lectured part. If you don't seek them out, they're pretty unobtrusive.

Nothing more than pantomime villains for the saggy white masses.

Sorry to hear you are saggy :sad:

Try Joe Wicks :amazed:

[jet]

Supporting Mental Health when he was unable to help his wife when she was ‘suicidal’ despite supporting Mental Health groups with William and Kate long before he even met Meghan.
....then he gets a role supporting ‘Misinformation’...During the interview Meghan was only too happy to declare they were married before the Big day. Although now corrected. Then we have the title of Prince insinuating he didn’t get it because of his skin colour and he was entitled to it....
The Racial conversation...Meghan claimed there were several conversations whilst she was pregnant...Harry said there was one before she was pregnant.

They are the ones that spring to mind...and although the words did not come out of his mouth he was happy for that to be broadcast.

No wonder people are tittering...:laugh:

Others that I know of - stating she only left the palace twice in 4 months - lie
Stating she got no coaching at all on any protocol etc - huge lie
Stating only she and Harry and not Archie would have had security if they had stayed in the UK - silly lie
Stating she hadn't seen her half sister in 20 years and didn't know her - lots of photographic evidence of more lies
Stating her half sister changed her name to Markle after Meghan married Harry to associate herself with them - written evidence showed Samantha changed her name years before.
That's just off the top of my head.....

[The Slim Reaper]

Supporting Mental Health when he was unable to help his wife when she was ‘suicidal’ despite supporting Mental Health groups with William and Kate long before he even met Meghan.



You do realise that supporting the cause of mental health awareness, doesn't make someone the mental health whisperer, able to cure all ills? There isn't a single trained MH practitioner in the world that would say they could help everyone, not even allowing for specific variations within MH issues.


One of the most facile comments on this pair I've seen, and it's a field with a lot of competition.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Prince Albert of Monaco blasts Prince Harry over Oprah interview


Prince Albert II of Monaco has criticised Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Oprah interview as inappropriate
63-year-old ruler who is a distant cousin of the Queen says he understands pressures faced by the Sussexes
But he says such a 'public display of dissatisfaction... wasn't appropriate' and couple's decision 'bothered him'
Albert II, whose mother was actress Grace Kelly, wishes Harry well but hints he may struggle away from family


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/26/11/40965622-9405323-The_European_ruler_told_BBC_World_News_he_wasn_t_i mpressed_by_th-a-22_1616759026808.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9405323/Prince-Albert-Monaco-blasts-Prince-Harry-bombshell-Oprah-interview.html

[rusticgal]

Others that I know of - stating she only left the palace twice in 4 months - lie
Stating she got no coaching at all on any protocol etc - huge lie
Stating only she and Harry and not Archie would have had security if they had stayed in the UK - silly lie
Stating she hadn't seen her half sister in 20 years and didn't know her - lots of photographic evidence of more lies
Stating her half sister changed her name to Markle after Meghan married Harry to associate herself with them - written evidence showed Samantha changed her name years before.
That's just off the top of my head.....


....all in all its a huge list. Harry has his work cut out with his wife let alone everyone else :laugh:

[rusticgal]

You do realise that supporting the cause of mental health awareness, doesn't make someone the mental health whisperer, able to cure all ills? There isn't a single trained MH practitioner in the world that would say they could help everyone, not even allowing for specific variations within MH issues.


One of the most facile comments on this pair I've seen, and it's a field with a lot of competition.


Of course I realise he isnt an expert....however working alongside companies and Charities dedicated to Mental Health do you seriously believe he didnt know where to turn to???

[rusticgal]

Prince Albert of Monaco blasts Prince Harry over Oprah interview


Prince Albert II of Monaco has criticised Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Oprah interview as inappropriate
63-year-old ruler who is a distant cousin of the Queen says he understands pressures faced by the Sussexes
But he says such a 'public display of dissatisfaction... wasn't appropriate' and couple's decision 'bothered him'
Albert II, whose mother was actress Grace Kelly, wishes Harry well but hints he may struggle away from family


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/26/11/40965622-9405323-The_European_ruler_told_BBC_World_News_he_wasn_t_i mpressed_by_th-a-22_1616759026808.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9405323/Prince-Albert-Monaco-blasts-Prince-Harry-bombshell-Oprah-interview.html


Yup....apart from the Americans I dont think the whole Oprah thing has gone down too well...

[jet]

Of course I realise he isnt an expert....however working alongside companies and Charities dedicated to Mental Health do you seriously believe he didnt know where to turn to???

I think people just pretend they believe every word that comes out of their mouths, otherwise, well, I'll say no more....:umm2:

[jet]

Yup....apart from the Americans I dont think the whole Oprah thing has gone down too well...

What A list Americans may make of it:


https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...with-a-listers

Will Harry and Meghan learn the A-list art of saying nothing at all?
Barbara Ellen

........Anyone who’s ever fleetingly ventured into such elite orbits will tell you that they’re a discreet breed, living in micro-managed worlds, operating a strict privacy-first code. Getting close to them is like pushing through plasma. If they give out personal information, it’s in a tightly disciplined way. These people are unlikely to feel true kinship with people who give explosive gut-spilling interviews, never mind leak private family conversations to showbiz journalists.
In such rarefied circles, the Sussexes simply don’t fit in. Whatever supportive platitudes are spouted, in private, eyebrows may be being raised at the oversharing.

I wish the couple only well, because – chrissakes! – why not? However, they may have catastrophically miscalculated reverting to Meghan’s Suits-level fame strategy (Push. Publicise. Repeat.). When (oh, the irony!) the royal family’s oft-maligned, tightly buttoned “never explain, never complain” reserve would have far better endeared them to the elite circles they wish to join. They say you should dress for the job you want, and perhaps, exposure-wise, the Sussexes should have maintained self-control for the social position they want. It’s a bit late now.

[AnnieK]

I think people just pretend they believe every word that comes out of their mouths, otherwise, well, I'll say no more....:umm2:

That's not true.....people offer another side of the coin Jet, that's all. Some people are able to see more than one side is all and offer it out there. Doesn't make them pro or con, just offers more to the debate which can only be a good thing?

[jet]

i don't blame anyone for trying to make the most of the hand that they were dealt. We all do it. However, where people differ is in their ethical compass. How far an individual will push to maximise their personal gain. From where I am standing, Harry and Meghan have pushed it too far, that's my personal judgement. What I dislike is being lectured to on how I should or should not behave by someone I think has a pretty shoddy ethical compass in the first place.

Well said...and the part in bold is the crux of the dislike for most of us, I'd venture to say.

[jet]

That's not true.....people offer another side of the coin Jet, that's all. Some people are able to see more than one side is all and offer it out there. Doesn't make them pro or con, just offers more to the debate which can only be a good thing?

But many don't offer another side, they say things like "she/they have done nothing to excuse!" "they have never done anything wrong!". Silly excuses aren't debate.
I can say something positive if a certain topic comes up, and have - like saying Meghan did a great thing in getting Harry to stop shooting wild animals when none of his other girlfriends did, or admit she was given a hard time with the Kate comparisons for a while, but no matter what she has obviously done wrong, some never admit to it.

[Ammi]

...I don’t think that it’s surprising at all that Prince Albert personally finds ‘public display of dissatisfaction’ something that he disapproves of considering his own Royal family ‘traditions’ of ‘putting up with and shutting up with’...

[Ammi]

...I’m not going to speak for anyone else, I only ever speak for myself...why would I judge someone else’s life and family decisions as being wrong in any way, it’s not for me to decide that...it’s for them to decide and then live with those decisions, for them to have control of their own lives...that’s what we all do....

[rusticgal]

What A list Americans may make of it:


https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...with-a-listers

Will Harry and Meghan learn the A-list art of saying nothing at all?
Barbara Ellen

........Anyone who’s ever fleetingly ventured into such elite orbits will tell you that they’re a discreet breed, living in micro-managed worlds, operating a strict privacy-first code. Getting close to them is like pushing through plasma. If they give out personal information, it’s in a tightly disciplined way. These people are unlikely to feel true kinship with people who give explosive gut-spilling interviews, never mind leak private family conversations to showbiz journalists.
In such rarefied circles, the Sussexes simply don’t fit in. Whatever supportive platitudes are spouted, in private, eyebrows may be being raised at the oversharing.

I wish the couple only well, because – chrissakes! – why not? However, they may have catastrophically miscalculated reverting to Meghan’s Suits-level fame strategy (Push. Publicise. Repeat.). When (oh, the irony!) the royal family’s oft-maligned, tightly buttoned “never explain, never complain” reserve would have far better endeared them to the elite circles they wish to join. They say you should dress for the job you want, and perhaps, exposure-wise, the Sussexes should have maintained self-control for the social position they want. It’s a bit late now.


Well they have been far from discreet and if they are prepared to discredit their own loved ones in public....then they certainly wouldnt hesitate to do it to anyone else....and as their facts are proving to be lies they have only discredited themselves. Not the sort of people you want to be around if you value your reputation.
Then again...you get sued at the drop of a hat over there for defamation of character...:laugh:

[jet]

...I don’t think that it’s surprising at all that Prince Albert personally finds ‘public display of dissatisfaction’ something that he disapproves of considering his own Royal family ‘traditions’ of ‘putting up with and shutting up with’...

That sounds a bit judgemental....

[jet]

The guy who will do Meghan's biog Tom Bower, wrote about her recently:

“Convinced of her own greatness, Meghan thinks she has, for years, been the victim of plots to destroy her destiny. While
others shone in leading roles, Meghan had bit parts,” he declared, adding that after she was written out of the television
series Suits, she “brilliantly... invented a new script” and “ruthlessly” carried out a carefully planned scheme to ensnare Prince
Harry. In his view, Meghan never intended to “sacrifice her Californian lifestyle and serve as a member of the Royal Family in
rainy Britain” for long.

“Refusing to show son Archie’s face to the camera after his birth and demanding privacy, while constantly speaking to US
journalists, confirmed her hypocrisy,” he went on, before comparing her unfavourably with Wallis Simpson (“[unlike] the Duke
and Duchess of Windsor... Meghan and Harry clearly do not care about the uproar they are causing”).



His final complaint is that “in her selfish manner, she believes that she is entitled to say what she wants to Oprah Winfrey
[and] those who criticise her inventions are racist and sexist.” Nobody is going to mistake his biography for a love letter, I
imagine.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/non-fiction/unlike-oprah-tom-bowers-unauthorised-biography-meghan-markle/

A very thorough investigative author is seeing the same as we have all along. :)

[Ammi]

...that’s cool...:laugh:..I’m fine with doing a bit of judging of the very misogynist Monaco male Royal family members...

[jet]

...that’s cool...:laugh:..I’m fine with doing a bit of judging of the very misogynist Monaco male Royal family members...

But not of people who discredit their family in front of millions and lie while doing it. Each to their own I suppose. :)

[Ammi]

But not of people who discredit their family in front of millions and lie while doing it. Each to their own I suppose. :)

..that’s completely your own view and your own descriptive, not mine...each to their own, I suppose, though...

[jet]

...that’s cool...:laugh:..I’m fine with doing a bit of judging of the very misogynist Monaco male Royal family members...

I don't know anything really about the Monaco royals, (apart from the lovely Grace Kelly marrying into the family) - had a google and there's some interesting stuff there. I can't find anything about the males being very misogynist. Have you a link about this?

[jet]

..that’s completely your own view and your own descriptive, not mine...each to their own, I suppose, though...

I'm confused. It's my view that they discredited their family and lied or its my view that you wouldn't judge them for that, like I said? :conf:

[thesheriff443]

Butter ups cleaner’s job tittle is,head of biological development and germ prevention

Might explain Harry’s job title

[Marsh.]

If you don't seek them out, they're pretty unobtrusive.

Yep.

Neither Harry nor Meghan's fault that people have google alerts for them.

[Marsh.]

You do realise that supporting the cause of mental health awareness, doesn't make someone the mental health whisperer, able to cure all ills? There isn't a single trained MH practitioner in the world that would say they could help everyone, not even allowing for specific variations within MH issues.


One of the most facile comments on this pair I've seen, and it's a field with a lot of competition.

Spot on.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Butter ups cleaner’s job tittle is,head of biological development and germ prevention

Might explain Harry’s job title

I think "Role" is a better word than job...

[Marsh.]

...I don’t think that it’s surprising at all that Prince Albert personally finds ‘public display of dissatisfaction’ something that he disapproves of considering his own Royal family ‘traditions’ of ‘putting up with and shutting up with’...

BREAKING NEWS: Monarchy supports monarchy!

I guess that means Harry and Meghan are in the wrong. :laugh:

[thesheriff443]

I think "Role" is a better word than job...

Sausage roll would be better still

[Beso]

So can we say anything about anything about them in here that we think about them?...


Or is it a trap?

[rusticgal]

So can we say anything about anything about them in here that we think about them?...


Or is it a trap?


We can say what we want....as always. It’s when members start making it personal it gets shut down...:wavey:

[Beso]

We can say what we want....as always. It’s when members start making it personal it gets shut down...:wavey:

Thank you cow bag.:joker:

[rusticgal]

Thank you cow bag.:joker:



:joker:

[Josy]

So can we say anything about anything about them in here that we think about them?...


Or is it a trap?

Actually in a word no.

It's against forum rules for any over the top comments to be made in any threads not just this one such as endless posts with unnecessary name calling, hate filled comments and so on that add nothing to further discussion.

We also don't want threads in this section to be overrun solely with attempts at humour or quoting posts just to reply with a smiley, again this type of content adds nothing to actual debates and a lot of the time derails the threads and/or causes arguments.

[Beso]

Actually in a word no.

It's against forum rules for any over the top comments to be made in any threads not just this one such as endless posts with unnecessary name calling, hate filled comments and so on that add nothing to further discussion.

We also don't want threads in this section to be overrun solely with attempts at humour or quoting posts just to reply with a smiley, again this type of content adds nothing to actual debates and a lot of the time derails the threads and/or causes arguments.



I hardly ever reply with a smiley..


I stand guilty as charged on all other counts though:blush:.

[Black Dagger]

I love this beautiful couple. Gorgeous!

[Josy]

I hardly ever reply with a smiley..





I stand guilty as charged on all other counts though:blush:.None of the things in my post were aimed at anyone in particular it was just an answer to your posts with some things that get posted in serious debate thread's that shouldn't.

[Beso]

Harry and meghan, a match made in hell.

2 much past personal history for them both to properly bond as a durable husband and wife team. imo.

[thesheriff443]

I like to ask why Meghan and Harry didn’t ask for at least half of the money made by the interview with Oprah go to charity instead of millions going to a multi millionaire

[Beso]

Yes..why didnt they donate the whole fee to charity...or did they say they did ophrah for free?

That's a very good question actually.

[Beso]

I'm not seeing Marcus rashford being paid for anything hes highlighted.

[Marsh.]

I like to ask why Meghan and Harry didn’t ask for at least half of the money made by the interview with Oprah go to charity instead of millions going to a multi millionaire

Why should they?

[Marsh.]

Yes..why didnt they donate the whole fee to charity...or did they say they did ophrah for free?

That's a very good question actually.

It was confirmed long before the interview aired that they were not paid for it.

[Beso]

Infact, all I see is Marcus rashford hiding from the limelight whilst still doing more good for the things hes highlighting.

[Marsh.]

What does Marcus Rashford have to do with anything?

[Beso]

What does Marcus Rashford have to do with anything?

He is what I would call an honourable rich man.

Someone who's talent, rather than ones status has thrust him forward as a voice that should be listened to.

A man, in a young mans boots. One gracefully enough to shun the limelight, one who will avoid the headlines as well. A young man who came from nothing, yet still managed to capture the nations attention.

...I want to compare him against harry, the talentless sob story, who is fortunate enough to come from the proper stock.

[Beso]

What does Marcus Rashford have to do with anything?

It was confirmed long before the interview aired that they were not paid for it.

As long as certain things were mentioned.:hee:

[Marsh.]

He is what I would call an honourable rich man.

Someone who's talent, rather than ones status has thrust him forward as a voice that should be listened to.

A man, in a young mans boots. One gracefully enough to shun the limelight, one who will avoid the headlines as well. A young man who came from nothing, yet still managed to capture the nations attention.

...I want to compare him against harry, the talentless sob story, who is fortunate enough to come from the proper stock.

Yet Harry who decided to stop leeching off the state and go do his own thing is the subject of your ire and not the institution of the monarchy itself or the members who continue to pocket millions for doing nothing.

Hmm.

[Beso]

Yet Harry who decided to stop leeching off the state and go do his own thing is the subject of your ire and not the institution of the monarchy itself or the members who continue to pocket millions for doing nothing.

Hmm.



I think goldheart mentioned something about tescos.

Perhaps I would have applauded him if that is what he actually did. Instead hes used his privaliged status to become an obnoxious self indulgent balding ginger snob.

[Marsh.]

I think goldheart mentioned something about tescos.

Perhaps I would have applauded him if that is what he actually did. Instead hes used his privaliged status to become an obnoxious self indulgent balding ginger snob.

Tescos. Aye. Yeah.

At least he's not using his privilege to get away with touching kids and avoiding prosecution.

[Marsh.]

Your comment belongs in the prince andrew is a paedo thread.



Josy!!

And your Marcus Rashford and Tesco comments belong on another forum altogether. Aye.

[LukeB]

Haven't most people took advantage of stuff to get something? If it ends up putting food on the table and taking care of the family now and in the future then no big deal. It's not really harming anyone. He's earning his own money and not peoples taxes so win win.

[Marsh.]

Haven't most people took advantage of stuff to get something? If it ends up putting food on the table and taking care of the family now and in the future then no big deal. It's not really harming anyone. He's earning his own money and not peoples taxes so win win.

Yep, everyone takes the privileges of their life/situation to make the best of them and turn them into opportunities. Not harming anyone either.

[Bollo]

I watched the interview but it left me feeling ambivalent... I mean yes it sounds horrible what Meghan and Harry went through... but it's the Royal family, it's well documented that they are steeped in tradition and there is a strict protocol if you get involved with them... Not saying it's right but it's very naive to believe there would be a happy princess fairytale ending and not to research the family background, especially after what happened to Diana... However I hope that they are happy in their life going forward and that bridges can be eventually rebuilt...

[Beso]

I watched the interview but it left me feeling ambivalent... I mean yes it sounds horrible what Meghan and Harry went through... but it's the Royal family, it's well documented that they are steeped in tradition and there is a strict protocol if you get involved with them... Not saying it's right but it's very naive to believe there would be a happy princess fairytale ending and not to research the family background, especially after what happened to Diana... However I hope that they are happy in their life going forward and that bridges can be eventually rebuilt...



You say fairy tail ending as though meghan is dead, what the hell.:shrug:

Diana got wrapped round a ****ing concrete wall in a car.

Stop comparing the 2 ffs.

[Marsh.]

Diana was killed in a car crash after leaving the family. Stop trying to use that as a one up.

[GoldHeart]

As long as certain things were mentioned.:hee:

What does this even mean?? . You know they didn't get paid for the Oprah interview , so not really sure what the angle is here.

[Beso]

What does this even mean?? . You know they didn't get paid for the Oprah interview , so not really sure what the angle is here.

They made it clear that certain things would be mentioned in the interview before the interview took place, the fee would have been the bargaining tool that enabled the tools to be allowed to air thier chosen tripe of the day.

It's well documented that they did.

[Beso]

I'm trying hard not to laugh at harry saying, we will waver our fee, in his posh Windsor accent.

[Marsh.]

They made it clear that certain things would be mentioned in the interview before the interview took place, the fee would have been the bargaining tool that enabled the tools to be allowed to air thier chosen tripe of the day.

It's well documented that they did.

They bargained for a fee that doesn't exist?

Yeah ok. :joker:

[Bollo]

You say fairy tail ending as though meghan is dead, what the hell.:shrug:

Diana got wrapped round a ****ing concrete wall in a car.

Stop comparing the 2 ffs.

That is not what i meant at all, so sorry if any offence was taken. I just thought it was naive of her to believe that she would be a princess and everything would be all magical and wonderful like in a disney film, given the well documented history of the Royal family, not just with Diana but many others i.e Wallis Simpson, Alice keppel/ the Shand family. But I do hope Harry and Meghan will be happy together and that the family will mend their differences...

[thesheriff443]

Why should they?

Because they have set up their own charity and my bad with Oprah she is not a multi millionaire she is a billionaire worth 2.6 billion US dollars

[Marsh.]

Because they have set up their own charity and my bad with Oprah she is not a multi millionaire she is a billionaire worth 2.6 billion US dollars

So, why is the onus on them to donate Oprah's money? That's on Oprah.

[thesheriff443]

So, why is the onus on them to donate Oprah's money? That's on Oprah.

Because without them Oprah wouldn’t have an interview or the money.

[Marsh.]

Because without them Oprah wouldn’t have an interview or the money.

Again, the onus is on Oprah to do whatever with her own money. Nobody else. Making Oprah's charitable donations (or lack thereof) the responsibility of other people is straw grasping.

[thesheriff443]

Again, the onus is on Oprah to do whatever with her own money. Nobody else. Making Oprah's charitable donations (or lack thereof) the responsibility of other people is straw grasping.

Not it’s not, if a couple that have set up their own charity and bleat on about making the world a better place, then donating the money and I said half of it not even all of it to charity would be at the forefront of their minds.

Simple question?
Should the money of gone to charity or a billionaire?

[Marsh.]

Not it’s not, if a couple that have set up their own charity and bleat on about making the world a better place, then donating the money and I said half of it not even all of it to charity would be at the forefront of their minds.

Simple question?
Should the money of gone to charity or a billionaire?

The money is OPRAH'S! It's that simple.

Harry and Meghan made their own donations to more than one charity after the interview.

Jumping through hoops to make CBS or Oprah's earnings THEIR issue is just a non-argument.

[thesheriff443]

The money is OPRAH'S! It's that simple.

Harry and Meghan made their own donations to more than one charity after the interview.

Jumping through hoops to make CBS or Oprah's earnings THEIR issue is just a non-argument.

Again without Harry and Meghan cbs and Oprah would not of had no earnings

If charity was that big a deal to them they would of made sure their charity got some of those millions.

I’ll ask you again!
Who should of got the money, charities like for instance
Mental health charity
Black lives mater charity
Miscarriage charity
Or a billionaire?

[thesheriff443]

Tibb members who should of got the millions from that interview charities or a billionaire?

[AnnieK]

Oprah donates millions on a yearly basis, last year alone she donated $10 million dollars at the start of the pandemic....she is very philanthropic and so I don't think she will have just sat back counting the cash. She has her own charitable foundation that does a hell of a lot of work throughout the year and she would have been a lot richer than she is had she not donated hundreds of millions. By 2010 it is estimated she had donated $400 million to charitable causes and that was before she set up her own foundation.

Its like saying Samantha Markle would not have earned the money from her book were it not for Harry and Meghan so she should donate half her earnings. Thomas Markle has approached Oprah to tell his side, should he be unpaid and demand a massive donation to a charity as no one would be interested in him if it weren't for Meghan and Harry.

[Ammi]

...as well as all of the tabloid media article writers etc...the ‘Royal reporters’ who earn their income from writing about the Royal family...does the royal establishment proportion those incomes into charity donations for those whose incomes are made through them...Meghan and Harry chose to receive no fee and that’s really the only fee/income in their control to decide...

[AnnieK]

...as well as all of the tabloid media article writers etc...the ‘Royal reporters’ who earn their income from writing about the Royal family...does the royal establishment proportion their income into charity donations...Meghan and Harry chose to receive no fee and that’s really the only fee of income in their control to decide...

They also made a sizeable donation to Mind after they spoke out condemning Piers Morgan's comments

[Ammi]

They also made a sizeable donation to Mind after they spoke out condemning Piers Morgan's comments

...let’s also not forget the lovely lemon cake that Meghan baked in honour of #womenshistorymonth...:love:...


Meghan Markle is turning lemons into lemon olive oil cake, all in the name of charity.

To celebrate Women's History Month, the Duchess of Sussex baked a cake made with lemons from the garden of her Montecito home as part of an Archewell Foundation dinner thrown for a group of Chicago women in partnership with World Central Kitchen. In a letter addressed to the recipients of the meal, she wrote, “We hope you enjoy the offering we baked for you—a small token of thanks, from our home to yours. Our hope with this effort is to show that, when we all participate, even the smallest actions can have a ripple effect. Even individual actions can impact the whole of us.”

The royal-sponsored meal is part of the work World Central Kitchen has been doing throughout the pandemic, serving almost 500,000 meals to the residents of Chicago by working with the YWCA Metropolitan and the local restaurant Fat Shallot. Aside from her general passion for giving back, Meghan also has a personal connection to the city as she graduated from nearby Northwestern University where she double-majored in theater and international relations.

[Marsh.]

Again without Harry and Meghan cbs and Oprah would not of had no earnings

If charity was that big a deal to them they would of made sure their charity got some of those millions.

I’ll ask you again!
Who should of got the money, charities like for instance
Mental health charity
Black lives mater charity
Miscarriage charity
Or a billionaire?

Do your research, you just make yourself look foolish grasping at tenuous straws.

[Marsh.]

Oprah donates millions on a yearly basis, last year alone she donated $10 million dollars at the start of the pandemic....she is very philanthropic and so I don't think she will have just sat back counting the cash. She has her own charitable foundation that does a hell of a lot of work throughout the year and she would have been a lot richer than she is had she not donated hundreds of millions. By 2010 it is estimated she had donated $400 million to charitable causes and that was before she set up her own foundation.

Its like saying Samantha Markle would not have earned the money from her book were it not for Harry and Meghan so she should donate half her earnings. Thomas Markle has approached Oprah to tell his side, should he be unpaid and demand a massive donation to a charity as no one would be interested in him if it weren't for Meghan and Harry.

Spot on.

[Marsh.]

They also made a sizeable donation to Mind after they spoke out condemning Piers Morgan's comments

Yep, as well as Press Pad which promotes diversity in the media.

[thesheriff443]

Yep, as well as Press Pad which promotes diversity in the media.

Should the money of went to charity or a billionaire?

[Ammi]

...anyways, whatever our own personal feelings about extremely wealthy people...they’re an essential for charity donations, which are very much relied on to be able to continue ...Oprah and her companies are only able to help because of high earnings etc...and I would imagine that her donations greatly help to keep charities going to continue their work...she earns millions, she donates millions...she donates millions because she earns millions...it’s a necessary circle...

[joeysteele]

Haven't most people took advantage of stuff to get something? If it ends up putting food on the table and taking care of the family now and in the future then no big deal. It's not really harming anyone. He's earning his own money and not peoples taxes so win win.

Indeed this is correct.

The point is, there are millions Worldwide, who will want to hear what this couple are involved with, plus that they're doing okay.

I was chatting to an elderly couple on Friday who I thought would be really mad at them for the Oprah interview and leaving the UK.

However, this couple developed a distanced bond they called it with Princes William and Harry at the time of their Mother's death.
This elderly couple's fury then was at the Queen and Prince Charles.

As they pointed out too.
Prince William is fully programmed to be King, so had a whole different set of duties in the Royal business.
Prince Harry hadn't those constraints so will see things differently.
So both Brothers can and should if they wish live their lives differently.

So even more after my chat with that couple, felt, whether it was so or not, (although I do believe Prince Harry and Meghan Markle), once he felt his wife was unhappy and even possibly in some danger, he was right to plan a whole new life for them both.

Of course there'll be people who will think them bad and wrong for stepping out that goldfish bowl.
To be in a bowl of life where they can allow in what and who they wish to or accept.

Equally there's those who like them and those who don't.
I've actually given up even trying to do reasoned debate on them.
Because the positions are entrenched.

I've always just wished them well
I have put in more than I thought I would as to them, even on here, because I hate character assassination with no substantiated facts.
Whatever he does, that's legal and of no harm to others, as to work or other earning routes.
What harm is he doing as you point out, none.

I will perhaps read or watch some things on them, other times I'm not bothered, they will never be impacting on my personal life.

If I, speaking only for myself here, however If I couldn't bear them.
Had no respect at all for them.
Then I'd never myself, just as to myself, no way would I be wasting my time reading up all on them, especially in proven disrespectful tabloids.

I just again, wish them well.
Good luck, if at times I read, they appear to have made a success of their big decision to step out of the Royal bubble.
That they're happy.
Then that's all I need to hear, no one should be forced to live their lives for others in order to satisfy a ridiculous word like duty, as to the Royals.

I was a firm Royalist, however Royalty is riddled with problems in its set up.
I'd still keep the Monarchy, however it needs big reform.
Plus the reactions to Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, which I fear the Queen doesn't look like dealing with properly.
She'll listen to her advisors not her family more likely in my view.
Well, that's taken me to not view the Monarchy now in the same light I saw it before all this.

You can have riches, space galore, all material things possible.
IF you feel you're in a straitjacket however for near all the time, needing to watch what you do, say, where, when and to whom.
Never able to just feel free and enjoy life and those things.
Then that sounds more like a living nightmare to me.
Not really living at all as a person,and certainly not a worthy or acceptable form of duty either, in my view.

[Marsh.]

Should the money of went to charity or a billionaire?

“Of went”?

What CBS spend their advertising dollars on is no concern of mine. As already mentioned Oprah does a hell of a lot for charity so, again, her payday is also of no concern.

More relevant to the thread, it’s nothing to do with Harry or Meghan. Keep beating that drum if you wish to though, if this is the one thing you’re clinging to in the quest for today’s Harry and Meghan “fault” then they mustn’t be all that bad as it goes.

Have a nice day.

[rusticgal]

Meghan baking a lemon cake for Charity... perhaps she's a good person after all :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Meghan baking a lemon cake for Charity... perhaps she's a good person after all :laugh:

id imagine she had a ball sucking all the lemons first

:hehe:

[Marsh.]

id imagine she had a ball sucking all the lemons first

:hehe:

She'll have to get in line, the Daily Mail readers hog the lemons.

[thesheriff443]

Meghan baking a lemon cake for Charity... perhaps she's a good person after all :laugh:

Lemon cake for charity but Oprah can have the millions

You couldn’t make it up

[AnnieK]

Thinking a pair of celebrities have the clout to dictate to a multi billion dollar network how they spend their money.....you couldn't make it up.

[Ammi]

...that Meghan baked the cake herself especially for those working in the World Central Kitchen in Chicago ...in appreciation to their devotion of time to others and in honour of Women's History Month is a really lovely gesture that she didn’t have to do...she didn’t have to spend that time and even the DM in their constant negativity also tributed her as well in a very positive way and a nice headline and article...and this story came up on my newsfeed, it’s been there for a few days ...so I posted it today ...but obviously it doesn’t fit with the vibe of criticising her every breath and every action...but c’est la vie...let’s rather mock the gesture....

[thesheriff443]

Thinking a pair of celebrities have the clout to dictate to a multi billion dollar network how they spend their money.....you couldn't make it up.

it was their interview that generated the money not the other way round.

No interview no money .

Who should of got the money anniek

Charities or a billionaire?

[Ammi]

...Annie as well as others have responded to the question with our own thoughts and in our own way...it might not be the response or answer that you want, Sheriff ...but to keep pushing the way you are is quite targeting and bullying...you respond in the way that you give thought to things and in your own individual way and others do the same...that’s the way that threads roll, or should do, to be respectful...

[AnnieK]

it was their interview that generated the money not the other way round.

No interview no money .

Who should of got the money anniek

Charities or a billionaire?

If no network showed the interview, no money. It works both ways. The network needed harry and meghan for the interview, harry meghan and oprah needed the network to broadcast it. Should every time a celeb is interviewed should the network make no money? They will soon be broke

I have said how much Oprah donates to charity, she has probably donated more in the last year than she made from the interview. Would you work for nothing?

Charitable donations have been made. There is so much to have a go at H &M for apparently but you seem fixated on the profits from the interview which they didn't see and had no control over. I just don't get it

[thesheriff443]

When it suits this pair are super intelligent and can carve out great financial deals and job opportunitys

But when it suits this pair are just a pair of powerless celebrity’s lost in the world of big companies

Lmfa

[AnnieK]

Celeb couple give interview for free and donate to charity out of their own with philanthropic interviewers who has donated more to charity than any other celeb AND still get derided for it lmfao. This has reached an all time low now

[rusticgal]

When it suits this pair are super intelligent and can carve out great financial deals and job opportunitys

But when it suits this pair are just a pair of powerless celebrity’s lost in the world of big companies

Lmfa


They are all in it for their own gain...financial or publicity. Makes me laugh that Harry and Meghan accepted no payment for their interview that had them whining about being cut off financially...
If they are in a financial position to donate vast amounts to Charity...dont go putting your own father down to the world for Cutting you off financially.

[user104658]

Celeb couple give interview for free and donate to charity out of their own with philanthropic interviewers who has donated more to charity than any other celeb AND still get derided for it lmfao. This has reached an all time low now

I don't know what you mean Annie - Harry and Meghan haven't given any of Oprah's money to charity so they are selfish self-serving scum. There's no argument, they'd have made that bank transfer straight away otherwise.

And it gets WORSE the more you look into it - I've been searching google all morning, and apparently Harry and Meghan haven't given any of Elon Musk OR Jeff Bezos' money to charity either! These men have HUNDREDS of billions that Harry and Meghan could be using to solve world hunger on their own! And yet, Harry and Meghan sit there in hollywood, not giving one PENNY of that Tesla or Amazon money out to charity. Unbelievable hypocrites.

[jet]

They are all in it for their own gain...financial or publicity. Makes me laugh that Harry and Meghan accepted no payment for their interview that had them whining about being cut off financially...
If they are in a financial position to donate vast amounts to Charity...dont go putting your own father down to the world for Cutting you off financially.

Yes, all their talk of 'serving' when they left the Royals seems to be very much secondary to making mega amounts of money.
Being a hard working Royal wasn't what Meghan had in mind when she hooked Harry, was it?

[jet]

Celeb couple give interview for free and donate to charity out of their own with philanthropic interviewers who has donated more to charity than any other celeb AND still get derided for it lmfao. This has reached an all time low now

Donating vast amounts of money is easy though when you have billions like Oprah. I mean, what else are you going to do with it all? It's way more than enough to see you and many generations through lifetimes of luxury.
I admire actual groundwork for charity much much more from those who can't afford to give money.

[AnnieK]

Donating vast amounts of money is easy though when you have billions like Oprah. I mean, what else are you going to do with it all? It's way more than enough to see you and many generations through lifetimes of luxury.
I admire actual groundwork for charity much much more from those who can't afford to give money.

You want to quote sherrif, not me Jet. I'm not the one making an issue about charity donations.

Anyway, I really am done now. People will be damned if they do and damned if they don't. It's ridiculous now in all honesty.

[Vicky.]

I have to agree I do find it shocking that Harry and Meghan did not make it a condition of their interview that Oprah empty her personal bank accounts and live in a shoebox for the foreseeable future for the pleasure of..doing her job. What swines.

[Marsh.]

Celeb couple give interview for free and donate to charity out of their own with philanthropic interviewers who has donated more to charity than any other celeb AND still get derided for it lmfao. This has reached an all time low now

Spot on.

[jet]

You want to quote sherrif, not me Jet. I'm not the one making an issue about charity donations.

Anyway, I really am done now. People will be damned if they do and damned if they don't. It's ridiculous now in all honesty.

I meant to quote your post 119, where you mentioned Oprah, not the one I quoted. Anyway, don't you go anywhere, your posts bring balance to us opinionated lot. :hug:

[GoldHeart]

Meghan & Harry could make themselves penniless and live in a matchbox,and give all their earnings to charity.

They'd still be criticised for it.

[Marsh.]

Meghan & Harry could make themselves penniless and live in a matchbox,and give all their earnings to charity.

They'd still be criticised for it.

They'd be accused of courting sympathy.

"Starving? I don't believe her!" Piers would tweet.

[jet]

Nobody is even close to suggesting they or Oprah give all their money away, so the over exaggerations are rather silly and just goading.

[GoldHeart]

They'd be accused of courting sympathy.

"Starving? I don't believe her!" Piers would tweet.

Then the pot bellied pig would probably demand she walk around in bin liners ,and give up food entirely to prove she's poor.

[Ammi]

Meghan & Harry could make themselves penniless and live in a matchbox,and give all their earnings to charity.

They'd still be criticised for it.

...because they didn’t make the lemon cake also...?...

[rusticgal]

Then the pot bellied pig would probably demand she walk around in bin liners ,and give up food entirely to prove she's poor.


You obviously dislike Piers Morgan calling him a Pot bellied pig....imagine if we called Meghan that...

[rusticgal]

...because they didn’t make the lemon cake also...?...


No one said she didnt make the Lemon cake :shrug:....its something millions of people do for charity...trying to make out what an amazing soul she is for baking a cake was just comical..:laugh:

[Ammi]

...no one was attempting to ‘make out that someone baking and donating a cake for those working in the World Central Kitchen in Chicago’ would make someone an ‘amazing soul’, Rusti...anyone finding that in any way comical is attaching that comical descriptive themselves because that’s how they feel about it...I’m sure that the workers that she made it for and donated it to didn’t find it a comical act ...but a touching one of kindness, which is exactly what it was...

[GoldHeart]

You obviously dislike Piers Morgan calling him a Pot bellied pig....imagine if we called Meghan that...

I think Meghan being called a 'pot bellied pig' would be the least of her problems, considering she's had far worse said about in the media. Being described and portrayed as some 'manipulative evil home wrecker ' is a very personal attack on Meghan.

[Marsh.]

...imagine

Yes.

[Marsh.]

No one said she didnt make the Lemon cake :shrug:....its something millions of people do for charity...trying to make out what an amazing soul she is for baking a cake was just comical..:laugh:

But making out she's the devil personified because she didn't dictate what Oprah Winfrey does with her own cash is rational I suppose.

:joker:

[jet]

No one said she didnt make the Lemon cake :shrug:....its something millions of people do for charity...trying to make out what an amazing soul she is for baking a cake was just comical..:laugh:

Well, she's done little else of use to anybody other than herself, I suppose its exciting to find something....:hehe:

[Marsh.]

Well, she's done little else of use to anybody other than herself, I suppose its exciting to find something....:hehe:

Projection.

[Ammi]

...it’s not a debate/discussion or anything remotely similar to, is it...it’s just let’s be mean for the sake of being mean because we don’t like Meghan...she showed caring for others and did something nice and thoughtful...oh well, that’ll give her a bit of value in life, won’t it..she does little else...

[thesheriff443]

...it’s not a debate/discussion or anything remotely similar to, is it...it’s just let’s be mean for the sake of being mean because we don’t like Meghan...she showed caring for others and did something nice and thoughtful...oh well, that’ll give her a bit of value in life, won’t it..she does little else...

You are totally wrong, baking a lemon cake no matter how personal would raise maybe 30 dollars

Meghan was in a position to have not all because I never said all the money, donate a good few millions from her interview

Which was basically full of self pity and accusations which lots have been proved false

[thesheriff443]

I have to agree I do find it shocking that Harry and Meghan did not make it a condition of their interview that Oprah empty her personal bank accounts and live in a shoebox for the foreseeable future for the pleasure of..doing her job. What swines.

It was the some money from the interview not even all of it so for once Vicky you are totally wrong.

She got 2.6 billion for gods sake,

[Ammi]

...she didn’t bake it to sell it, she baked it for those working in the Chicago World Central Kitchen to enjoy themselves to appreciate the work they do for others so she was doing something for them...it was a thoughtful gesture is all, it’s got nothing to do with monetary value...and they greatly appreciated it from the pics of them...they didn’t find it comical or just a little task for her to keep her busy...streuth...

[thesheriff443]

As for anniek would I work for nothing yes I have done many a time

And when I see good genuine people struggling I go out of my way to help.

[Marsh.]

She got 2.6 billion for gods sake,

And?

What do you expect other people to do about it? Hold her at gunpoint? :joker:

[thesheriff443]

...she didn’t bake it to sell it, she baked it for those working in the Chicago World Central Kitchen to enjoy themselves to appreciate the work they do for others so she was doing something for them...it was gesture is all, it’s got nothing to do with monetary value...and they greatly appreciated it from the pics of them...they didn’t find it comical or just a little task for her to keep her busy...streuth...

Yes hands on work like the couple of times her and Harry delivered food parcels and made sure it was photographed

[Marsh.]

Yes hands on work like the couple of times her and Harry delivered food parcels and made sure it was photographed

Meghan does something away from the cameras.... she lied about it, no proof.

Meghan does something in front of a camera.... ooh she made sure it was photographed.

Kate does both of these things whilst pocketing a big salary from the state.... oh she's amazing, selfless.

[rusticgal]

I think Meghan being called a 'pot bellied pig' would be the least of her problems, considering she's had far worse said about in the media. Being described and portrayed as some 'manipulative evil home wrecker ' is a very personal attack on Meghan.


...like calling Piers Morgan a Pot bellied pig isnt a personal attack on him..:laugh:
Calling someone a manipulative evil homewrecker is someones opinion on the things she has done...she is manipulative and she publicly attacked Harry's family...some may see that as evil and homewrecking.
Calling someone a Pot Bellied Pig is a personal attack on someones looks...not actions. There is a big difference.

[thesheriff443]

And?

What do you expect other people to do about it? Hold her at gunpoint? :joker:

Glad you find it funny

I don’t think people like her and many others having that kind of money sitting in a bank while millions around the world are in poverty should be seen as a good thing.

But I won’t stop you praising the filthy rich.

[thesheriff443]

Meghan does something away from the cameras.... she lied about it, no proof.

Meghan does something in front of a camera.... ooh she made sure it was photographed.

Kate does both of these things whilst pocketing a big salary from the state.... oh she's amazing, selfless.

joker::joker: now that’s funny’

[Marsh.]

Glad you find it funny

I don’t think people like her and many others having that kind of money sitting in a bank while millions around the world are in poverty should be seen as a good thing.

But I won’t stop you praising the filthy rich.

I haven't praised anyone. A rational mind can see that. I see tonnes of praise for the monarchy though, that stole every penny they own.

But you continue grasping at tenuous ways that Meghan is evil, as I said earlier, if you need to invent and contort reasons to malign her, she mustn't be all that bad after all.

[Ammi]

...it is a bit bizarre, though...criticising any wealth of people while others have much less ....and yet no similar criticisms for the incredibly wealthy Royal family ...I mean, that sure is wealth beyond our wildest imagination right there...

[GoldHeart]

...like calling Piers Morgan a Pot bellied pig isnt a personal attack on him..:laugh:
Calling someone a manipulative evil homewrecker is someones opinion on the things she has done...she is manipulative and she publicly attacked Harry's family...some may see that as evil and homewrecking.
Calling someone a Pot Bellied Pig is a personal attack on someones looks...not actions. There is a big difference.

Piers Morgan is a bully who uses his platform to shout and belittle others . He can dish it out but can't take it .

That's funny considering Meghan HAS been attacked for everything , even petty stuff like nail varnish,her hair and even holding her baby bump for goodness sake .

[The Slim Reaper]

Glad you find it funny

I don’t think people like her and many others having that kind of money sitting in a bank while millions around the world are in poverty should be seen as a good thing.

But I won’t stop you praising the filthy rich.

Didn't you vote for Boris? Lets see you square the circle of caring about poverty now.

[Marsh.]

The fact I'm needing to spell out how Oprah's 2.6 billion dollar net worth is not Meghan's fault is staggering.

[The Slim Reaper]

Imagine holding H&M more personally responsible for poverty than your own voting history.

[GoldHeart]

...it is a bit bizarre, though...criticising any wealth of people while others have much less ....and yet no similar criticisms for the incredibly wealthy Royal family ...I mean, that sure is wealth beyond our wildest imagination right there...

It's bias and hypocrisy at its finest, Meghan was criticised for so called 'blood diamond earrings' despite the entire monarchy soaking in blood money. But that gets conveniently ignored.

[bots]

...it is a bit bizarre, though...criticising any wealth of people while others have much less ....and yet no similar criticisms for the incredibly wealthy Royal family ...I mean, that sure is wealth beyond our wildest imagination right there...

While Andrew was additionally employed by the UK government as a trade ambassador (he didn't need the money), he was allegedly molesting under aged sex slaves. I don't believe i have heard anyone requesting he repay his salary

[rusticgal]

Piers Morgan is a bully who uses his platform to shout and belittle others . He can dish it out but can't take it .

That funny considering Meghan HAS been attacked for everything , even petty stuff like nail varnish,her hair and even holding her baby bump for goodness sake .

Thats fine...call him a bully then because you are judging by his actions not his looks...its your opinion just dont be personal. If anyone on this forum referred to Meghan as the Ugly Mermaid it would be totally unacceptable would it not?

[Marsh.]

While Andrew was additionally employed by the UK government as a trade ambassador (he didn't need the money), he was allegedly molesting under aged sex slaves. I don't believe i have heard anyone requesting he repay his salary

Very good point.

[Marsh.]

Thats fine...call him a bully then because you are judging by his actions not his looks...its your opinion just dont be personal.

Everything said about Meghan is personal, people feel they are the experts on her relationship with her own father.

[Ammi]

It's bias and hypocrisy at its finest, Meghan was criticised for so called 'blood diamond earrings' despite the entire monarchy soaking in blood money. But that gets conveniently ignored.

...I’m sure there has been much controversy over time about returning some of the Crown Jewels to the countries where their history derives from, GoldHeart...

[LukeB]

Everything said about Meghan is personal, people feel they are the experts on her relationship with her own father.

And Harry, his bald patch got brought up and got taken the mic out of but nothing was said. I guess it’s only personal when it’s not Meghan or Harry.

[rusticgal]

Piers Morgan is a bully who uses his platform to shout and belittle others . He can dish it out but can't take it .

That's funny considering Meghan HAS been attacked for everything , even petty stuff like nail varnish,her hair and even holding her baby bump for goodness sake .


....and another point is that Meghan has used her platform to criticise The Royal Family..Harrys family...private family matters to the whole world.
....and funnily enough she can dish it but cant take it too....maybe 2 peas from the same pod :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

And Harry, his bald patch got brought up and got taken the mic out of but nothing was said. I guess it’s only personal when it’s not Meghan or Harry.

Exactly
Apparently that's ok

[rusticgal]

And Harry, his bald patch got brought up and got taken the mic out of but nothing was said. I guess it’s only personal when it’s not Meghan or Harry.

Well he has got a bald patch...so nothing wrong in calling him bald. But calling him a Big fat Bald Eagle is quite different. :facepalm:

[user104658]

Calling someone a Pot Bellied Pig is a personal attack on someones looks...not actions. There is a big difference.

"Pot-bellied", fair enough I agree there's no need to get personal about appearance. "Pig", on the other hand, I think is a fairly accurate description of Piers Morgan's actions.

[LukeB]

Well he has got a bald patch...so nothing wrong in calling him bald. But calling him a Big fat Bald Eagle is quite different. :facepalm:

There’s calling someone bald which is ok I guess and there’s taken the piss out of a bald patch. Two different things and taken the piss out of a bald patch is indeed a personal attack.

[rusticgal]

Exactly
Apparently that's ok



But no one has called him a Big Fat Bald Eagle have they....

Nothing wrong in referring to someone as Bald if they are bald :laugh:

[user104658]

Well he has got a bald patch...so nothing wrong in calling him bald. But calling him a Big fat Bald Eagle is quite different. :facepalm:

:think: No if it's OK to take the piss out of Harry for being bald, then it's OK to take the piss out of Piers for being fat. I'm not saying that either is OK but you're advocating for a totally ludicrous double standard here.

"It's not ok to call Piers fat, but it's OK to point out that Harry is bald because he IS bald."

I mean I hate to be the one to point it out, but Piers is carrying a few extra pounds?

[GoldHeart]

....and another point is that Meghan has used her platform to criticise The Royal Family..Harrys family...private family matters to the whole world.
....and funnily enough she can dish it but cant take it too....maybe 2 peas from the same pod :laugh:

Meghan is nothing like Piers , his behaviour towards her is disturbing and unhealthy. He obsesses over a woman he can't have. Imagine being Piers wife ,while he acts like a salty creep who's had his ego bruised.

Incorrect
Meghan did NOT use her platform to bash the royal family, she was calling out the lack of support and the cold treatment of the institution mainly .

[GoldHeart]

But no one has called him a Big Fat Bald Eagle have they....

Nothing wrong in referring to someone as Bald if they are bald :laugh:

Again makes no sense why Harry's hairline is being mocked ,when his brother has been going bald for years but whatever.

[rusticgal]

"Pot-bellied", fair enough I agree there's no need to get personal about appearance.


Well that was my point....

[rusticgal]

Again makes no sense why Harry's hairline is being mocked ,when his brother has been going bald for years but whatever.


You have completely side tracked my point...so never mind.

[rusticgal]

Again makes no sense why Harry's hairline is being mocked ,when his brother has been going bald for years but whatever.

Tell me would you call Harry a Bald headed coot?

[Marsh.]

Well that was my point....

Mocking someone's balding head.... is mocking their appearance.

A child could understand it.

[jet]

...no, there’s been a handful of comments at most in observing that the Royal family aren’t held up to the same standards regarding being ‘wealthy’ as Meghan and Harry are...I have no idea how that equates to ‘anti monarchy’ no matter which way it’s flipped...

Because the senior royals work hard to give back....which Meghan and Harry could have done instead of running off to make easy multi millions from Netflix and Spotify deals and other cushy money spinners while doing little of the 'service' they promised?
Meghan wanted the glitz and titles but not the hard graft, eg, Kate and Williams schedules:

2020 Past Appearances -

30 August - The Duchess of Cambridge shared images chosen for Hold Still.
5 August - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visited Barry Island and Shire Hall Care Home in South Wales.
4 August - The Duchess of Cambridge brought a number of British retailers together to support Baby Banks.
23 July - The Duke and Duchess met frontline workers at Sandringham to mark news the Royal Foundation has awarded substantial grants to support efforts during the pandemic.
14 July - The Duchess of Cambridge endorses Tiny Happy People.
10 July - To mark what would have been the start of the Wimbledon championships, the Duchess of Cambridge joined Andy Murray and children from Bond Primary School in London for a Zoom call.
5 July - William and Kate celebrated NHS workers at Norfolk tea party.
1 July - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge marked Canada Day with a video call to staff at Surrey Memorial Hospital in British Colombia.
27 June - The Duchess of Cambridge visited East Anglia's Children's Hospice's Nook in Framingham Earl, Norfolk.
22 June - The Duchess of Cambridge joined the Duchess of Cornwall for a Zoom call to mark Children's Hospice Week.
19 June - The Duchess of Cambridge visited Fakenham Garden Centre in Norfolk.
17 June - The Duchess of Cambridge led an assembly on the importance of kindness for Oak National Academy.
11 June - The Duchess of Cambridge shared a video message in support of Hold Still.
9 June - The Duchess of Cambridge paid a virtual visit to Action on Addiction's Clouds House in Wiltshire.
5 June - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge marked Volunteers' Week.
4 June - William and Kate join Thank A Responder day.
22 May - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge led a bingo game virtually and chatted with staff and residents at Shire Hall Care House in Cardiff.
18 May - The Cambridges joined several well-known faces for Mental Health Minute.
15 May - The Cambridges marked Shout's first anniversary.
12 May - The Royal Family said thank you on International Nurses Day.
8 May - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge spoke to veterans and staff at Mais House care home.
7 May - The Duchess of Cambridge launched Hold Still.
3 May - The Duchess spoke with midwives at Kingston Hospital's maternity unit, new parents and experts.
23 April - The Cambridge family claps for the NHS.
17 April - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge appeared on the BBC Breakfast Club to encourage people to communicate using online tools and praised the work of NHS Every Mind Matters.
8 April - The Cambridges Surprise Pupils at Casterton Primary Academy.
29 March - The Duchess is photographed speaking to Place2Be CEO Catherine Roche.
20 March - The Cambridges Thank London Ambulance Staff For Vital Efforts.
9 March - The Duchess of Cambridge, Patron of Place2Be, hosted a reception at Buckingham Palace in celebration of Place2Be’s 25th anniversary.
9 March - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended the annual Commonwealth Day service at Westminster Abbey.
5 March - The Cambridges concluded their three-day trip to Ireland with several engagements in Galway.
4 March - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge carried out engagements in Dublin, Kildare and Meath. That evening, they attended a reception hosted by the Tánaiste.
3 March - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge arrived in Dublin where they met President Michael D Higgins and Taoiseach Leo Varakdkar. That evening, they attended a reception at Guinness Storehouse.
26 February - The Duchess of Cambridge, Patron of SportsAid, visited the London Stadium at the Olympic Park in Stratford to join a SportsAid event. In the afternoon, Kate held a private early years meeting.
25 February - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended a special performance of 'Dear Evan Hansen' at the Noël Coward Theatre.
12 February - The Duchess of Cambridge travelled to Northern Ireland and Scotland as part of her tour of the UK for 5 Big Questions.
11 February - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge joined The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall for a visit to the Defence Medical Rehabilitation Centre Stanford Hall.
4 February - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visited the Mumbles and Port Talbot in South Wales for several engagements.
2 February - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended the EE British Academy Film Awards ceremony at the Royal Albert Hall.
29 January - The Duchess of Cambridge served breakfast at Stockwell Gardens Nursery.
28 January - The Duchess of Cambridge, Patron of Evelina London Children’s Hospital and Patron of the National Portrait Gallery, joined a creative workshop run by the National Portrait Gallery’s Hospital Programme at Evelina London.
27 January - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended the UK Holocaust Memorial Day Commemorative Ceremony in Westminster.
22 January - The Duchess travelled to Cardiff to attend a baby sensory class at Ely and Careau Children’s Centre before returning to HMP Send women's prison in Surrey.
21 January - The Duchess of Cambridge visited MiniBrum at Thinktank Birmingham Science Museum for the launch of 5 Big Questions.
20 January - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, on behalf of Her Majesty The Queen, hosted a reception at Buckingham Palace to mark the UK-Africa Investment Summit.
15 January - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visited Bradford. In Bradford’s Centenary Square they joined a group of young people from across the community to hear about life in Bradford. Following a walkabout, the Duke and Duchess visited My Lahore and one of Bradford’s Khidmat Centres. Finally, The Duke and Duchess were introduced to several local projects including Near Neighbours.
5 January - Sunday service at Sandringham.

2019 Past Appearances -

25 December - Christmas Day service at Sandringham.
19 December - The Queen's pre-Christmas luncheon.
11 December - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended the annual Diplomatic Reception.
11 December - Private Meeting - The Duchess of Cambridge, Joint Patron, the Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, this afternoon held an Early Years Meeting.
10 December - Private Meeting - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended a Royal Foundation trustees meeting.
4 December - Kate enjoyed a festive afternoon at Peterley Manor Farm with children from her new patronage Family Action.
3 December - The Duchess of Cambridge joined a host of royals for a reception for NATO leaders at Buckingham Palace to mark 70 years of the NATO Alliance.
27 November - Private - The Duchess of Cambridge, Joint Patron, the Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, today completed two days with Kingston Hospital Maternity Unit in London.
22 November - Private Meeting - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Joint Patrons, the Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, this morning received Sir Keith Mills (Chairman) and Mr. Jason Knauf (Chief Executive).
21 November - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended a reception for Tusk finalists.
20 November - Private Engagements - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge met the King and Queen of Bhutan. Kate attended an early years Royal Foundation meeting before receiving representatives involved in nursing.
18 November - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended the Royal Variety Performance at the Palladium Theatre, London, held in aid of the Royal Variety Charity.
15 November - The Duchess of Cambridge, Royal Patron of East Anglia’s Children’s Hospices, officially opened the charity’s new hospice ‘The Nook’.
13 November - Private Engagement - The Duchess of Cambridge, Patron, Action on Addiction, today visited the Brink, 21 Parr Street, Liverpool.
12 November - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended Shout’s Crisis Volunteer celebration event at the Troubadour White City Theatre in London.
10 November - Remembrance Sunday.
9 November - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge joined members of the royal family for the annual Festival of Remembrance at the Royal Albert Hall.
7 November - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended the launch of the National Emergencies Trust. Afterwards, Kate privately visited the BBC's Children's and Education team.
6 November - Private Meeting - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Joint Patrons, the Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, this afternoon received Ms Lorraine Heggessey upon relinquishing her appointment as Chief Executive.
5 November - Private Meeting - The CC notes Kate held an early years meeting.
18 October - For the final day of the tour, William and Kate returned to SOS Children's Villages before returning to Islamabad and visiting a canine training centre.
17 October - In Lahore, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visited SOS Children's Villages, spent time at the National Cricket Academy, visited Badshahi Mosque and retraced Diana's footsteps at Shaukat Khanum cancer hospital.
16 October - William and Kate visited Chitral for the day. They received a traditional greeting, walked on the northern tip of the Chiatibo Glacier in Broghil National Park, visited two local villages and met members of local search and rescue teams.
15 October - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visited Model College for girls in Islamabad, attended a nature based engagement with schoolchildren in Margalla Hills. From there, they attended a meeting with the President and had lunch with the Prime Minister. The couple met staff members from the British High Commission before a glittering evening reception at the Pakistan Monument.
14 October - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge arrived in Pakistan.
11 October - Private Meeting - The Duchess of Cambridge held a Royal Foundation meeting.
9 October - The Duchess of Cambridge visited the Angela Marmont Biodiversity Centre at the Natural History Museum.
8 October - Private Meeting - William and Kate met Bill Gates at Kensington Palace.
2 October - Ahead of their visit to Pakistan, William and Kate attended a special event hosted by His Highness The Aga Khan at the Aga Khan Centre. Afterwards, they privately received the High Commissioner of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan (His Excellency Mohammad Nafees Zakaria) at the Aga Khan Centre and Her Majesty’s Ambassador to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan (Mr Thomas Drew) at Kensington Palace.
1 October - Private - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge hosted a Royal Foundation reception and attended a meeting. They also hosted a reception for BBC Teen Heroes Awards.
26 September - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visited Birkenhead to attend the naming ceremony of the UK’s new polar research ship, the RRS Sir David Attenborough.
25 September - Private Engagement - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Joint Patrons, the Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, today held a Reception at Kensington Palace.
24 September - Private Meeting - The Duchess of Cambridge, Joint Patron, the Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, this morning held an Early Years Initiatives Meeting.
20 September - Private Meetings - The Duchess of Cambridge, Joint Patron, the Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, this morning received Mr Jason Knauf (Chief Executive). The Duchess of Cambridge, Joint Patron, the Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, afterwards held an Early Years Meeting.
19 September - The Duchess of Cambridge visited Sunshine House Children and Young People’s Health and Development Centre to meet with the Southwark Family Nurse Partnership team.
18 September - Private Meeting - The Duchess of Cambridge, Joint Patron, the Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, this morning attended a Trustees’ Meeting.
13 September - Private Meeting - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Joint Patrons, the Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, today received Sir Keith Mills (Chairman) and Ms Lorraine Heggessey (Chief Executive).
11 September - Private Meeting - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge received Mr Richard Curtis. UPDATE: During the meeting, they narrated a message for Every Mind Matters.
10 September - The Duchess of Cambridge visited RHS Wisley to see their new garden inspired by Back To Nature.
5 September - William and Kate accompanied Charlotte for her first day at Thomas's Battersea. George began Year 2.
25 August - The Earl and Countess of Strathearn joined the Queen at Crathie Kirk for Sunday service.
8 August - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge hosted the inaugural regatta The King’s Cup on the Isle of Wight to raise awareness and funds for eight of their patronages.
14 July - The Duchess of Cambridge, Patron of the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club, and The Duke of Cambridge attended the Gentlemen's Singles Final of The Championships, Wimbledon.
13 July - The Duchess of Cambridge, Patron of the All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club, and The Duchess of Sussex attended the Ladies' Singles Final at The Championships, Wimbledon.
10 July - The Cambridges spent the afternoon at the Khun Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha Memorial Polo Trophy at Billingbear Polo Club.
6 July - The Christening of Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor.
2 July - The Duchess of Cambridge attended Day Two of the Wimbledon Championships.
1 July - The Duchess of Cambridge visited her RHS 'Back to Nature' garden at Hampton Court Garden Festival.
25 June - The Duchess of Cambridge joined children from Action For Children for a photography workshop.
18 June - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended day one of Royal Ascot.
17 June - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge joined the Queen for Order of the Garter ceremonies at Windsor.
12 June - The Duchess of Cambridge, Patron of Action on Addiction, attended the first annual gala dinner in recognition of Addiction Awareness Week.
11 June - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge travelled to Cumbria where they joined a celebration with locals contributing to the community. After a walkabout in Market Square, the couple visited a traditional fell sheep farm.
8 June - The Cambridge family joined the Queen for Trooping The Colour.
6 June - The Duchess of Cambridge took the salute at Beating Retreat.
4 June - Private Meeting - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Joint Patrons, the Royal Foundation, this morning received Sir Keith Mills (Chairman) and Ms Lorraine Heggessey (Chief Executive).
3 June - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended the state banquet at Buckingham Palace in honour of the US state visit.
21 May - The Duchess of Cambridge was received by The Queen when Her Majesty invested her with the Insignia of a Dame Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order
21 May - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended the Queen's garden party at Buckingham Palace.
20 May - In the morning, the Duchess introduced 'Back To Nature' to a group of schoolchildren. That evening, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge joined the Queen for the preview evening at RHS Chelsea.
19 May - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visited the Chelsea Flower Show with George, Charlotte and Louis.
18 May - Private Engagement - The Duchess of Cambridge this afternoon visited the Royal Horticultural Society Back to Nature Garden jointly designed by Her Royal Highness in the Gardens of the Royal Hospital Chelsea, London SW3.
17 May - Private Engagement - The Duchess of Cambridge this afternoon visited the Royal Horticultural Society Back to Nature Garden jointly designed by Her Royal Highness in the Gardens of the Royal Hospital Chelsea, London SW3.
15 May - Private Engagement - The Duchess of Cambridge this afternoon visited the Royal Horticultural Society Back to Nature Garden, jointly designed by Her Royal Highness, in the gardens of the Royal Hospital Chelsea, London SW3.
14 May - The Duchess of Cambridge visited Bletchley Park to view a special D-Day exhibition in the newly restored Teleprinter Building, marking the 75th anniversary of the D-Day landings.
9 May - Private Event - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended a launch event for Shout, a Heads Together legacy project.
8 May - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visited Caernarfon Coastguard Search and Rescue Helicopter Base. Their Royal Highnesses travelled to Anglesey to visit Halen Môn Anglesey Sea Salt. Finally, the couple joined in a beach clean up with the Scouts.
7 May - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge officially launched The King's Cup regatta at Cutty Sark.
1 May - The Duchess of Cambridge, Patron of Anna Freud National Centre for Children and Families, officially opened the new Centre of Excellence at Rodney Street.
30 April - Private Engagement - The Duchess of Cambridge, Patron, the Royal Foundation, this evening held a Reception at Kensington Palace for members of Her Royal Highness’s Early Years Steering Group.
30 April - Private Engagement - The Duchess of Cambridge this morning visited Sayers Croft Wildlife Garden and Forest School at Paddington Recreation Ground, London W9. During the visit, Kate recorded a segment for Blue Peter, which aired on 13 June.
25 April - The Duchess of Cambridge attended the Anzac Day service of commemoration and thanksgiving at Westminster Abbey.
21 April - The Cambridges joined the Queen for Easter Service at Windsor.
28 March - The Duchess of Cambridge visited the Scouts’ headquarters at Gilwell Park.
27 March - Private Engagement - The Duchess of Cambridge, patron of the Royal Foundation, received Keith Mills.
19 March - The Duchess of Cambridge joined the Queen to open Bush House, King's College London. Afterwards, Kate visited her new patronage, the Foundling Museum.
17 March - The Duke of Cambridge, Colonel of the Irish Guards, accompanied by The Duchess of Cambridge, visited the 1st Battalion Irish Guards at the St. Patrick’s Day Parade, Cavalry Barracks, Hounslow.
13 March - Private Engagement - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Joint Patrons, the Royal Foundation this morning held a Trustees’ Meeting.
12 March - The Duchess of Cambridge, Patron of the National Portrait Gallery, attended the 2019 NPG London Portrait Gala.
12 March - The Duchess of Cambridge visited the Henry Fawcett Children’s Centre.
11 March - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge joined the Queen and other members of the royal family for the annual Commonwealth Day service at Westminster Abbey.
8 March - Private Meeting - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Joint Patrons, the Royal Foundation, this morning received Ms Lorraine Heggessey, Chief Executive.
6 March - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge carried out a day of engagements in Blackpool. They first visited Blackpool Tower where they joined a roundtable briefing. William and Kate spent time on ‘Comedy Carpet’ on the promenade. They viewed a housing project on Kirby Road. From there, they visited Blackpool Central Library. Finally, the Duke and Duchess visited Revoe Park, a recently revamped community garden and park that has been transformed.
5 March - The Duke and Duchess joined members of the royal family for a late morning reception at Buckingham Palace to mark the 50th anniversary of the investiture of the Prince of Wales.
28 February - William and Kate met privately with members of the PSNI before travelling to Ballymena to meet with representatives from Cinemagic at the Braids Arts Centre. Finally, they saw the work of the Sure Start programme.
27 February - During a two day to visit to Northern Ireland, William and Kate visited Windsor Park football stadium, home of the Irish Football Association (IFA). From there they travelled to Fermanagh to see the work that the charity Extern is doing at their Roscor Youth Village. That evening, they attended a reception at Empire Music Hall in Belfast.
13 February - The Duchess of Cambridge attended the 100 Women in Finance Gala Dinner at the V&A Museum.
13 February - The Duchess of Cambridge attended The Royal Foundation’s ‘Mental Health in Education’ conference.
10 February - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge attended the BAFTA Awards ceremony at the Royal Albert Hall.
6 February - Private Engagement -The Duchess of Cambridge held a dinner at Buckingham Palace in her role as patron of the Royal Foundation.
5 February - In support of Children's Mental Health Week, the Duchess of Cambridge visited Lavender Primary School and Alperton Community School.
30 January - The Duchess of Cambridge, Patron, the Royal Foundation, received Ms Lorraine Heggessey (Chief Executive).
29 January - The Earl and Countess of Strathearn visited Dundee to officially open V&A Dundee.The Duke and Duchess then travelled to meet with employees and their families from the Dundee Michelin factory.
22 January - The Duchess of Cambridge visited Family Action Lewisham.
16 January - The Duchess of Cambridge visited the Costume Department at the Royal Opera House.
15 January - The Duchess of Cambridge visited the King Henry’s Walk Community Garden in Islington.
11 January - Private Meeting - The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, Joint Patrons, the Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and The Duke and Duchess of Sussex, this morning received Sir Keith Mills (Chairman).
6 January - The Cambridges attended Sunday service at St Mary's, Sandringham.

Add to this the homework they have to do before each visit, the correspondence they have to complete....and all with 3 kids to bring up.

[GoldHeart]

You have completely side tracked my point...so never mind.

Not really
If William was mocked for his baldness ,then it would be called 'unacceptable' . But because it's Harry it's Ok .

And piers has dismissed Meghan's mental health and in the past even told men to 'man up' who suffer with depression . He's a grotesque person all round ,so why is it so wrong to call him a pig .

[Marsh.]

Nope Jet. You can copy and paste all the Kate and Wills diary entries you want.

The conversation was about Oprah's billions, which was then compared to the Royal family's.

If you think Kate and William cutting lots of ribbons and shaking lots of hands changes what the monarchy is built on, what it represents and how it got its fortune then I'm afraid you're out of your mind.

[Ammi]

...you don’t have to ‘sell’ the Royal family to me...nothing of what you’ve posted alters that if ‘huge wealth’ is being held up in some way to a type of standard then all huge wealth has that same standard...that’s just consistency and fairness...

[rusticgal]

Incorrect
Meghan did NOT use her platform to bash the royal family, she was calling out the lack of support and the cold treatment of the institution mainly .


Incorrect..
She trashed them along with calling them Racist...and then used her platform again to tell the world that a private phonecall was unproductive with the sole purpose of indicating that they dont want to listen...

[rusticgal]

Not really
If William was mocked for his baldness ,then it would be called 'unacceptable' . But because it's Harry it's Ok .

And piers has dismissed Meghan's mental health and in the past even told men to 'man up' who suffer with depression . He's a grotesque person all round ,so why is it so wrong to call him a pig .


So what would your opinion be if I started referring to Meghan as 'Pinocchio'....:shrug:

[GoldHeart]

So what would your opinion be if I started referring to Meghan as 'Pinocchio'....:shrug:

Well Calling Meghan a 'liar' is pretty much calling her pinnochio ,so not really sure what point you're trying to make there.

[GoldHeart]

Incorrect..
She trashed them along with calling them Racist...and then used her platform again to tell the world that a private phonecall was unproductive with the sole purpose of indicating that they dont want to listen...

A conversation with 'concerns over Archie's skin colour' is what both Harry & Meghan said happened .

The main reasons for them stepping back was because of how the firm / institution itself did nothing to help or protect them. The motto was they shouldn't show weakness ,and were meant to grin and bear it .

[Liam-]

Everyone is allowed an opinion other than Meghan apparently

[jet]

A conversation with 'concerns over Archie's skin colour' is what both Harry & Meghan said happened .

The main reasons for them stepping back was because of how the firm / institution itself did nothing to help or protect them. The motto was they shouldn't show weakness ,and were meant to grin and bear it .

According to a proven liar. It's BS. Do a little goggling and don't take every word she feeds the American's as gospel.

[Ammi]

I wasn't 'selling' you anything.
I was pointing out that the Royals give back and Meghan didn't want to. She preferred to accrue her wealth without the hard work but using her new titles. Different standards.

...hmmmm, but it was Oprah’s wealth being questioned and Oprah ‘giving back’ which she does...and it was somehow being attached to Meghan/Harry as well at being at some type of fault when they didn’t take a fee for the interview ...but the Royal family wealth though, never being questioned in any similar way ...when it was mentioned as a comparison, then an ‘anti royal’ comment was made and none of the (valid) discussion equated to ‘anti royal’ in any way...

[The Slim Reaper]

Visiting a costume department = giving back and working hard :joker:

[Marsh.]

I wasn't 'selling' you anything.
I was pointing out that the Royals give back and Meghan didn't want to. She preferred to accrue her wealth without the hard work but using her new titles. Different standards.

You do realise the Royals accrue their wealth on account of being BORN?

You have processed that fact haven't you?

[Ammi]

...it most definitely feels that ‘different standards’ only apply if it’s not referencing Meghan and Harry and Meghan in particular...any reference to them though and there’s an automatic default setting to ‘double standards’....it really has no fairness and/or consistency...

[Marsh.]

And the mocking of Charles "cutting" them off, as though Charles' wealth wasn't handed down to him like it has done with every single one of them. :joker:

[GoldHeart]

...it most definitely feels that ‘different standards’ only apply if it’s not referencing Meghan and Harry and Meghan in particular...any reference to them though and there’s an automatic default setting to ‘double standards’....it really has no fairness and/or consistency...

Sadly Ammi there's never any fairness , whatever Meghan and Harry do is criticised by high maximum.

And the royal family are seen as perfect .

[GoldHeart]

And the mocking of Charles "cutting" them off, as though Charles' wealth wasn't handed down to him like it has done with every single one of them. :joker:

That crucial bit always gets left out

[jet]

Sadly Ammi there's never any fairness , whatever Meghan and Harry do is criticised by high maximum.

And the royal family are seen as perfect .

They are easy to criticize when the spout a lot of BS. :hee:
But the strange thing is some just close their eyes and ears and make stupid excuses:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9406355/Palace-officials-watching-Prince-Harrys-new-roles-closely-royal-expert-claims.html

………..Author and Sunday Times Royal Correspondent Roya Nikkhah moves the conversation on discuss a claim made by Prince Harry during the bombshell Oprah Winfrey interview.
Making reference to the Duke of Sussex's comment regarding how difficult it was for the couple to access mental health support, Nikkhah says: 'Harry is the most literate and clued-up person on mental health that I have ever met, going back many years.'
'He has every single organisation plugged into [mental health] at his fingertips. He talks to them all the time.
'He knows about mental health. Which is why I was so struck and confused by those comments he made in the interview that he didn't know where to turn.'

Nikkhah then discusses Prince William's reaction to Harry's comment about the future king and Prince Charles both feeling 'trapped' in the Royal Family.
'[William] doesn't feel trapped. That comment from Harry really didn't go down well,' she explains.

[rusticgal]

Well Calling Meghan a 'liar' is pretty much calling her pinnochio ,so not really sure what point you're trying to make there.


Thats what it insinuates in a ridiculing fashion....
So you like to not only call them out for what they are but you like to ridicule aswell...

Nice...

[rusticgal]

They are easy to criticize when the spout a lot of BS. :hee:
But the strange thing is some just close their eyes and ears and make stupid excuses:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9406355/Palace-officials-watching-Prince-Harrys-new-roles-closely-royal-expert-claims.html

………..Author and Sunday Times Royal Correspondent Roya Nikkhah moves the conversation on discuss a claim made by Prince Harry during the bombshell Oprah Winfrey interview.
Making reference to the Duke of Sussex's comment regarding how difficult it was for the couple to access mental health support, Nikkhah says: 'Harry is the most literate and clued-up person on mental health that I have ever met, going back many years.'
'He has every single organisation plugged into [mental health] at his fingertips. He talks to them all the time.
'He knows about mental health. Which is why I was so struck and confused by those comments he made in the interview that he didn't know where to turn.'

Nikkhah then discusses Prince William's reaction to Harry's comment about the future king and Prince Charles both feeling 'trapped' in the Royal Family.
'[William] doesn't feel trapped. That comment from Harry really didn't go down well,' she explains.

I mean shes saying what was obvious to all of us. Harry, William and Kate publicised their campaign on Mental Health and how they supported companies and Charities long before Meghan was on the scene. Which is why its absurd that she had no where to turn and Harry saying he was ashamed...none of it makes sense. Its all a load of BS...

[Cal.]

Just broken down over the loss of Diana

[Marsh.]

I wasn't questioning Oprah's wealth and I know she gives back, as do the Royals in their time and effort.

Except Oprah was the REASON conversation turned to the Royals, where the same attitude is not held. It clearly hit a nerve as you brought out your trusty Daily Mail links and that ABOMINATION of a list of engagements.

Kate attending Wimbledon has absolutely NOTHING to do with a discussion that raises the question of how the monarchy amassed its vast wealth. That really long post is just embarrassing given the context.

[Ammi]

I wasn't questioning Oprah's wealth and I know she gives back, as do the Royals in their time and effort. Neither of them are going to give up that wealth....and there is anti - royal from some, its obvious. Nothing wrong with that if that is their stance.

...and that was the comparison...why pick out Oprah specifically as not giving back sufficiently with her wealth while feeling complete support for the royal family with theirs ...and when that comparison was made, it was you yourself that exclaimed ‘anti royal’ when that didn’t equate at all...hence my comment...you diverted with your comment into ‘anti royal’, when that didn’t apply at all...there are lots of things obvious in this these threads... extremely obvious indeed....

[Nicky91]

i couldn't care too much about Meghan, but i also do not hate her myself


as for Harry, well only thing i like about him is his work regarding invictus games, how he's adored by many military with disability and/or trauma


i for one haven't watched the oprah interview, since i don't care


but don't come for slagging off Oprah, whom i personally adore, she has proven to be a great actress (the color purple) but also a wonderful talk show host, interviewer


i mean Oprah is the queen of talk show, but nowadays Kelly Clarkson is also doing quite well as interviewer/talk show princess, whom had a quite important/high profile interview recently either, with first lady Jill Biden

[Ammi]

Except Oprah was the REASON conversation turned to the Royals, where the same attitude is not held. It clearly hit a nerve as you brought out your trusty Daily Mail links and that ABOMINATION of a list of engagements.

Kate attending Wimbledon has absolutely NOTHING to do with a discussion that raises the question of how the monarchy amassed its vast wealth. That really long post is just embarrassing given the context.

....thank you, Marsh...my post was completely relevant, in engaging the Royal family as a comparison for ‘extreme wealth’...’anti royal’ had no place at all in the discussion...it was a random and unnecessary post...

[Cal.]

https://s.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/GTY_princess_diana_intro_nt_130829_4x3t_992.jpg

[jet]

...and that was the comparison...why pick out Oprah specifically as not giving back sufficiently with her wealth while feeling complete support for the royal family with theirs ...and when that comparison was made, it was you yourself that exclaimed ‘anti royal’ when that didn’t equate at all...hence my comment...you diverted with your comment into ‘anti royal’, when that didn’t apply at all...there are lots of things obvious in this these threads... extremely obvious indeed....

I don't recall saying that? Remind me, I haven't time to go back and look just now.

[Cal.]

DIANA

[jet]

....thank you, Marsh...my post was completely relevant, in engaging the Royal family as a comparison for ‘extreme wealth’...’anti royal’ had no place at all in the discussion...it was a random and unnecessary post...

I didn't say or imply you were anti royal either....:conf:

[Marsh.]

DIANA

:bawling:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I mean shes saying what was obvious to all of us. Harry, William and Kate publicised their campaign on Mental Health and how they supported companies and Charities long before Meghan was on the scene. Which is why its absurd that she had no where to turn and Harry saying he was ashamed...none of it makes sense. Its all a load of BS...


Its insulting to people who do struggle every day with mental health issues

utterly shameful lies imo

shameful

[Ammi]

I didn't say or imply you were anti royal either....:conf:

...I wasn’t attaching it to me, that doesn’t change that it was a random and unnecessary remark and had no place in the discussion...regardless of who you were aiming it at...

[Ammi]

DIANA

...:love:...

[thesheriff443]

Its insulting to people who do struggle every day with mental health issues

utterly shameful lies imo

shameful

It’s disgusting having visited my mum in a secure mental facility as a child when they were literally prisons and later on as an adult going into a secure mental unit to visit someone you know what it’s really like to see people in a zombie like state because of the strong drugs they are pumping in them to try to stop them hurting themselves or others

I don’t believe for one second Meghan ever had any real thoughts about killing herself

[rusticgal]

Its insulting to people who do struggle every day with mental health issues

utterly shameful lies imo

shameful


Disgusting...

[thesheriff443]

When you get to the stage that you consider killing your self it’s not a case of wanting help it’s a case of you need help because you will try and do it

There is a big difference between feeling down and being clinically depressed and having a chemical imbalance in the brain

[Marsh.]

I mean shes saying what was obvious to all of us. Harry, William and Kate publicised their campaign on Mental Health and how they supported companies and Charities long before Meghan was on the scene. Which is why its absurd that she had no where to turn and Harry saying he was ashamed...none of it makes sense. Its all a load of BS...

Yeah because the Royals haven't prove themselves to be completely archaic before. :rolleyes:

[rusticgal]

It’s disgusting having visited my mum in a secure mental facility as a child when they were literally prisons and later on as an adult going into a secure mental unit to visit someone you know what it’s really like to see people in a zombie like state because of the strong drugs they are pumping in them to try to stop them hurting themselves or others

I don’t believe for one second Meghan ever had any real thoughts about killing herself



How sad you had to go through that...they really are not nice places and as a child it must have been traumatising.

Too many similarities with Diana for my liking...mental health/suicidal thoughts whilst pregnant/hounded by the press...etc etc etc.

[Marsh.]

It’s disgusting having visited my mum in a secure mental facility as a child when they were literally prisons and later on as an adult going into a secure mental unit to visit someone you know what it’s really like to see people in a zombie like state because of the strong drugs they are pumping in them to try to stop them hurting themselves or others

I don’t believe for one second Meghan ever had any real thoughts about killing herself

Another ludicrous comment.

"Meghan didn't have mental health struggles or suicidal thoughts because... well she's alive and not locked up like a zombie being pumped full of drugs"

You are not the expert on somebody else's life experiences and state of mind.

THAT's what's disgusting. You assessing her life without knowing a thing about it. It is not for YOU to assess her mental health, you DO NOT know her.

[jet]

https://s.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/GTY_princess_diana_intro_nt_130829_4x3t_992.jpg

Diana. Such a beautiful lady. x

[Jordan.]

First example of their hard days work being they shared an image. How DO they do it!?

[Marsh.]

First example of their hard days work being they shared an image. How DO they do it!?

Well I take it back. They deserve to inherit the 100s of millions their ancestors stole.

[jet]

First example of their hard days work being they shared an image. How DO they do it!?

That's what Megs said before she bolted.

[The Slim Reaper]

First example of their hard days work being they shared an image. How DO they do it!?

That list covers 2 years as well.

[AnnieK]

If any working parent actually wrote what they did every day it would be a lot longer to be honest and they don't have an army of servants and drivers to assist. I'm not belittling what the Royals do but any working parent does the same :shrug: and don't get to have as many tasty dinners :laugh:

[Marsh.]

If any working parent actually wrote what they did every day it would be a lot longer to be honest and they don't have an army of servants and drivers to assist. I'm not belittling what the Royals do but any working parent does the same :shrug: and don't get to have as many tasty dinners :laugh:

Exactly. To use it as a reason they deserve their inherited millions is just.... naive.

[jet]

If any working parent actually wrote what they did every day it would be a lot longer to be honest and they don't have an army of servants and drivers to assist. I'm not belittling what the Royals do but any working parent does the same :shrug: and don't get to have as many tasty dinners :laugh:

I doubt many parents have to be 'on' so much though, or do so much reading up all the time on who they are going to see - it must be exhausting.

[thesheriff443]

If any working parent actually wrote what they did every day it would be a lot longer to be honest and they don't have an army of servants and drivers to assist. I'm not belittling what the Royals do but any working parent does the same :shrug: and don't get to have as many tasty dinners :laugh:

Yes all the servants and help the same ones Meghan got but she couldn’t cope so she ran off to America.

[Marsh.]

I doubt many parents have to be 'on' so much though, or do so much reading up all the time on who they are going to see - it must be exhausting.

They get to do their job whilst not worrying about getting stuff in for dinner and getting home early enough to prepare it, picking the kids up and sorting them out, cleaning the house or sorting the bills out etc.

So exhausting, maybe. Comparable to normal working parents? Absolutely not.

[jet]

That list covers 2 years as well.

One of them a pandemic year as well. :hee:

[AnnieK]

I doubt many parents have to be 'on' so much though, or do so much reading up all the time on who they are going to see - it must be exhausting.

You're kidding right? I can have 3 or 4 client visits a day when I'm working, I have to know what that client does, what their history is, what their staff retentions are etc etc.....many millions of working parents are the same. I drive myself to each appointment...catching up with other calls in between whilst trying to arrange after school care, activities, what to have to eat, fit in shopping, cleaning,making packed lunches etc. Its called being a working parent

[AnnieK]

Yes all the servants and help the same ones Meghan got but she couldn’t cope so she ran off to America.

And your point is what? Nothing to do with this conversation

[Liam-]

It must be exhausting collecting money by just existing, those royals, they’re the real working class heroes

[jet]

You're kidding right? I can have 3 or 4 client visits a day when I'm working, I have to know what that client does, what their history is, what their staff retentions are etc etc.....many millions of working parents are the same. I drive myself to each appointment...catching up with other calls in between whilst trying to arrange after school care, activities, what to have to eat, fit in shopping, cleaning,making packed lunches etc. Its called being a working parent

Yeah, like Wills and Kate without the servants and nannies, very hard graft.
When I'm not on furlough, I can be working a 10 hour day and my better half is a hospital theatre sister, so she works all hours and I do the cleaning and shopping and cooking a lot most of the time. It was worse when the kids were younger, we've only one at home now. The lazy one. :hehe:
Still, I meant Kate and Wills have to turn up immaculate and be 'on' in a way most don't, because their every move is being scrutinized and could be reported on very publicly - I think that would be extra draining.

[jet]

Anyway, its not a competition. I've seen posts here that say the Royals do nothing, so I posted that example to show that, actually, they do. It's good to learn something new, right? :hee:

[Marsh.]

Nobody said they do nothing, you derailed a different discussion Sheriff raised concerning billionaire Oprah.

The only thing said was that the Royals don't "earn" their fortune because they don't have to, they quite literally inherit it.

But you know that.

It is funny how you acknowledge the pressures of a public life when it comes to people you don't irrationally hate though.

[Ammi]

...it wasn’t posted because other posts said that the Royals do nothing, it was posted as a response and directly quoting another post, which was my own post ...and that post had no reference/inference or etc of the Royals doing nothing...and neither did any other post in the discussion...it’s good to show honesty, , right...?...

[thesheriff443]

And your point is what? Nothing to do with this conversation

My point is Meghan had the same help but still couldn’t do the job that you tryed to belittle kates work saying she had servants and helpers

[Cherie]

Thomas Markle wants his own Oprah interview..

[Beso]

Simple truth is, harry, and especially meghan. Just couldn't be bothered shaking hands with the smelly.

[Marsh.]

My point is Meghan had the same help but still couldn’t do the job that you tryed to belittle kates work saying she had servants and helpers

Wrong.

[Marsh.]

Thomas Markle wants his own Oprah interview..

Me too.

[thesheriff443]

Wrong.

Yes you are but don’t let it stop you

[rusticgal]

Simple truth is, harry, and especially meghan. Just couldn't be bothered shaking hands with the smelly.


...neither liked being 2nd best to William and Kate.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExhdJ4iVEAANB6P?format=jpg&name=small

[jet]

...it wasn’t posted because other posts said that the Royals do nothing, it was posted as a response and directly quoting another post, which was my own post ...and that post had no reference/inference or etc of the Royals doing nothing...and neither did any other post in the discussion...it’s good to show honesty, , right...?...

There have been posts saying the royals do nothing. I brought it in while answering a post from you as I felt it fitted at the time with what I was saying, there is no rule to say I have to search back for posts to answer directly about the royals doing nothing, is there?
Now you are saying I'm dishonest. Is there no end to your selective judgements?

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExhaY-RU8AAqXGK?format=jpg&name=small

[jet]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExhaY-RU8AAqXGK?format=jpg&name=small

Which paper is that from Arista please?

[jet]

Thomas Markle wants his own Oprah interview..

Googling....:hee:
Apparently he delivered his request by hand, giving a letter to a security guard outside her house. She only lives a mile or so from H&M.

[Beso]

...neither liked being 2nd best to William and Kate.




Glaringly obvious.

[rusticgal]

Googling....:hee:
Apparently he delivered his request by hand, giving a letter to a security guard outside her house. She only lives a mile or so from H&M.



Lol...I read that earlier. That puts Oprah on the spot....money or ‘friendship’..:laugh:
I think Meghan might be worth more money to her in the future...so my betting is she will stick with the money AND ‘friendship’...:hee:

[AnnieK]

My point is Meghan had the same help but still couldn’t do the job that you tryed to belittle kates work saying she had servants and helpers

Wrong....I did not try to belittle Kate...but if you have to make out I did to shoehorn an insult in for Meghan and Harry then carry on. :shrug: