Norhern Ireland assembly to be recalled over loyalist violence

[arista]

[The Northern Ireland Assembly is to be
recalled early from its Easter break
on Thursday to discuss the violence
in some loyalist areas.
A petition tabled by the Alliance Party to
bring MLAs back to the chamber has
secured the 30 signatures required.

41 police officers have been injured as
a result of the violence in parts of
greater Belfast and Londonderry,
with ten arrests made to date.
Detectives are also investigating
parades in Portadown and
Markethill on Monday.
Politicians are united in calling for the
violence to end,
but are divided over why it has erupted.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56649459



At least all Leaders are against this Terrorism

[arista]

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Sure Andrea
but it is inside the papers
Ch5HD AM debated it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Some have linked the violence in parts of greater Belfast and Londonderry in recent days to the decision by the Public Prosecution Service (PPS) not to prosecute anyone who attended the funeral of former IRA man Bobby Storey in June 2020.

It was attended by 2,000 mourners - including Deputy First Minister Michelle O'Neill - at a time when Covid restrictions were in place.

The leaders of the DUP, UUP and TUV have called for Mr Byrne to resign over the PSNI's handling of the funeral."

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/174E1/production/_113175459_bobby_storey_funeral50.jpg

Why was IRA criminal Bobby Storey's funeral so controversial?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-53275733

[Niamh.]

An excuse for riots LT, surely not!

[Crimson Dynamo]

An excuse for riots LT, surely not!

not an excuse but a link

[Niamh.]

not an excuse but a link

:thumbs:

[UserSince2005]

We need a hard border ASAP.

[arista]

Tonight they have Taken a Bus
set it on Fire.

Ref:Times Radio DAB Live

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/9779/production/_117877783_busburning.png


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56669508

[The Slim Reaper]

With Brexit in place, this will only go one way from here.

[arista]

Stormant Now Live on BBCnewsHD


Also being debated by the Left Winger Live
on LBC.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Interesting top comment from DT on this subject:

Before the usual suspects completely rewrite the history of the protocol....Lets be clear
the entire protocol was contrived by the EU to frustrate Brexit, It was manufactured to
create precisely what we are seeing now.

They fabricated this issue deliberately and with a callas disregard for the very real
problems that everyone in this country knew it would create.

If the troubles do erupt again, every death and injury will be entirely the fault of the EU.

[Niamh.]

Interesting top comment from DT on this subject:

Before the usual suspects completely rewrite the history of the protocol....Lets be clear
the entire protocol was contrived by the EU to frustrate Brexit, It was manufactured to
create precisely what we are seeing now.

They fabricated this issue deliberately and with a callas disregard for the very real
problems that everyone in this country knew it would create.

If the troubles do erupt again, every death and injury will be entirely the fault of the EU.

There was never going to be a solution that wasn't going to cause issues though to do with the NI Border

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/08/07/41485990-9447683-image-a-88_1617864817007.jpg

Yesterday Kids setting a Bus
on Fire.
Hijacked,

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/08/06/41475578-9447683-Videos_circulating_online_show_a_bus_being_pelted_ with_petrol_bo-a-20_1617859421639.jpg

[Livia]

Why were they rioting? Not the IRA given a free pass. Again.

[arista]

Why were they rioting? Not the IRA given a free pass. Again.


No, its amazing no deaths, yet


Assistant Chief Constable
was Live on SkyNewsHD now


They are using 12 year olds to set Busses alight,
with Adults in the background clapping

[Niamh.]

Why were they rioting? Not the IRA given a free pass. Again.

There's a good reason?

[Livia]

There's a good reason?

I wouldn't presume to engage you in a conversation about the Troubles.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the "rioters" as ever are all young teenage boys

do the parents of these boys never take responsibility?

[bots]

rioting is just wrong, full stop, whatever the reason

[Niamh.]

I wouldn't presume to engage you in a conversation about the Troubles.

Oh? Why not? Are you afraid I might make excuses for bombings and violence?

[Cherie]

This is very sad to see, 23 years since the GF agreement, there is a whole generation who have grown up living in peace, these appear to be in the main young kids who probably have a rosy tinted view of what living through the troubles was like, I don't agree that funeral should have attracted the crowds that it did, and at the very least fines should have been handed down to the key players, and I really don't know why this didn't happen, that said some of these idiots don't need an excuse and are ready to kick off at any perceived insult

[Niamh.]

This is very sad to see, 23 years since the GF agreement, there is a whole generation who have grown up living in peace, these appear to be in the main young kids who probably have a rosy tinted view of what living through the troubles was like, I don't agree that funeral should have attracted the crowds that it did, and at the very least fines should have been handed down to the key players, and I really don't know why this didn't happen, that said some of these idiots don't need an excuse and are ready to kick off at any perceived insult

Well that's the thing isn't it?, if people not getting fined for breaking covid rules causes this kind of a reaction, that really doesn't bode well for the future of NI and you're right it is such a shame after it had calmed down so much there, it's so sad to see

[arista]

Ch4HDnews
doing a Great report in Northern Island,


They are going to Burn stuff again
Tonight,

Great Irish Reporter (Paraic O'Brien)
had to go to Stormont
to go Live, he said some other reporters have been
attacked.


3mins video
kids as young as 12
https://www.channel4.com/news/children-as-young-as-12-involved-in-londonderry-disorder-psni-say



https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1379901061134176257/L_hmt3rO?format=jpg&name=small
What's left of the Double Decker Bus

[arista]

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60 second Johnson Clip
at the end, from 3 years ago.

[Crimson Dynamo]

1380225680575582210



60 second Johnson Clip
at the end, from 3 years ago.

this nasty bitter jealous man will use anything to further his own spiteful worldview

he is filled with hatred and his extreme left wing views are an affront to common decency

utterly vile hate speech

:bored:

[The Slim Reaper]

this nasty bitter jealous man will use anything to further his own spiteful worldview

he is filled with hatred and his extreme left wing views are an affront to common decency

utterly vile hate speech

:bored:

Which bits do you disagree with?

Any chance you can give a summary of what you believe his spiteful worldview consists of?

He's a Joeysteele, sensible, left of center dude for the record.

[arista]

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[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/C16F/production/_117891594_guardian-nc.png

[arista]

Last night
the Water Cannon was brought out.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/B625/production/_117892664_hi066659098.jpg

https://news.sky.com/story/northern-ireland-ministers-condemn-deplorable-violence-following-emergency-meeting-12269214

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-56681472


Fireworks Fired at Police
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/08/21/41514006-9451163-Violence_flared_up_in_Belfast_again_tonight_as_you ths_hurled_pet-a-60_1617913897599.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9449477/Crisis-talks-Northern-Ireland-eight-police-officers-injured-sixth-night-rioting.html

[arista]

Eamonn Holmes (Live on ITV1HD this morning)
moaned, Its not on Front Pages.
He called a Protest on Brexit.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Eamonn Holmes (Live on ITV1HD this morning)
moaned, Its not on Front Pages.
He called a Protest on Brexit.

do any of the children know what Brexit is?

and its seems to exclusively be 15 year old boys

[arista]

do any of the children know what Brexit is?

and its seems to exclusively be 15 year old boys



Yes Good point
loads of 12 year olds.


But some had Adults Clapping behind them

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eyhs2DlWQAAqbA2?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

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[Tom4784]

Another consequence that we were warned about years ago. The Leave camp remains ignorant.

[Niamh.]

Another consequence that we were warned about years ago. The Leave camp remains ignorant.

Someone up thread quoted a Top comment from some Newspaper saying that these riots are the fault of the EU because of the border issue which is ludicrous and so un-self aware. There has to be a Border somewhere if you leave the EU, there has to be custom checks, that either has to be in the Irish Sea which is going to anger Loyalists or between the ROI and NI which not only would anger Nationalists and people from the ROI but would break the terms of the Good Friday Agreement, this is why Britain opted for the former and here are the results, only the start of the results I unfortunately believe

[arista]

Yes the UK Prime Minister
has gone back on his word.

The Border now the Sea,

[Tom4784]

Someone up thread quoted a Top comment from some Newspaper saying that these riots are the fault of the EU because of the border issue which is ludicrous and so un-self aware. There has to be a Border somewhere if you leave the EU, there has to be custom checks, that either has to be in the Irish Sea which is going to anger Loyalists or between the ROI and NI which not only would anger Nationalists and people from the ROI but would break the terms of the Good Friday Agreement, this is why Britain opted for the former and here are the results, only the start of the results I unfortunately believe

And all this, just because the public was convinced to eat **** so that the rich can have a tax break, because that's what brexit comes down to really, it's not about making things better for the country, it's all about making things better for the rich.

I agree that things will only get worse, it bothers me that the actions of our country is having yet more effects on Ireland.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes the UK Prime Minister
has gone back on his word.

The Border now the Sea,

He didn't go back on his word, he was lying from the off. What he promised was never even close to being realistic, and he knew it.

Everything I've said about Brexit has been proven true, and I'm not saying that because I think I'm some kind of sage, but because it was always obvious. Just so a few easily offended white folks didn't have to hear Romanian or Polish in the local supermarket.

Now we're willing to sacrifice the lives of other British and Irish people to make sure that Daves xenophobia isn't challenged. When you turn policy over to the far right and farage you will always get what you pay for.


Same kind of pandering we're seeing increasingly on here.

[Crimson Dynamo]

these kids are more likely egged on by the South East Antrim UDA - as they are pissed off that their criminal empire has been repeatedly targetted by the Police


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2021/04/09/TELEMMGLPICT000255358261_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqwD2sfO9 joeQ6RY-qlTATNB2cSHopZMn-aCc647VHTAY.jpeg?imwidth=960
Come on lads Brexit has made us so mad...

[The Slim Reaper]

Is that a serious attempt to take part in the discussion?

Genuine question by the way, as I don't even know if we're allowed to ask you questions or to explain anything anymore.

[Alf]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Unfortunately this was predicted so long ago, Alf, that a brexit-supporting, writer for the far right spectator saying it's not true, really doesn't cut it.

If you think it's just those kids, and that peace itself hasn't been fragile, then it's easy to ignore reality.

[bots]

The UK have so far treated the border in the sea as something fluffy and not applied any controls because they know what will happen if they do. The EU however, are taking the UK to court over it, so they aren't exactly helping irrespective of all their word salad saying differently

[Crimson Dynamo]

1380228012612988929

quite. Its the funeral and the UDA crims

[The Slim Reaper]

The UK have so far treated the border in the sea as something fluffy and not applied any controls because they know what will happen if they do. The EU however, are taking the UK to court over it, so they aren't exactly helping irrespective of all their word salad saying differently

Oven ready deal.

And the point you made isn't even true.

[Alf]

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[Alf]

Not a Brexit supporting former Labour MP

How are we supposed to call Kate Hoey, "Far-right" and still look sane?

[The Slim Reaper]

Not a Brexit supporting former Labour MP

How are we supposed to call Kate Hoey, "Far-right" and still look sane?

You know, I'm glad you brought her into it, saves me the job.

She actually nearly gets to the crux of it with the point about the NIP, but misses the point purposefully by pretending this is a new development and wasn't labeled as part of project fear when they were warned about it years ago.

Brexit reality is hitting, and folks are coming up with all kinds of nonsense to pretend it's not their fault.

We got everything we wanted from the EU. Not my words, the words of top gear magazine (I know you'll get that reference), and Boris Johnson.

She is a right winger these days for the record, although irrelevant because anyone who supported Brexit has put themselves in the same corner, so desperate that the reality that eluded them for the last decade now isn't enough, so they have to pretend it's nothing to do with Brexit.


No Brexit = No NIP
NIP only exists because of Brexit.

d7NFfUOJwDE

Boris saying no border and how the EU being worried about no deal forced them to give us te great oven ready deal. He's full of sh1t. Always has been, always will, except now he's unaccountable to anyone which makes him far more dangerous.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Who called her far right?

she is a lefty

[The Slim Reaper]

She's not a lefty. After leaving labour she was door to door campaigning with Tories, but no one has called her far right. Alf thought he had a gotcha moment, but he didn't.

[The Slim Reaper]

That's how you answer a question without getting mortally offended and running off - just in case anyone is interested.

[bots]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/06/homer_lurking.gif

[Alf]

Imagine thinking that all you have to do is label someone "Far-right" and that means you win the argument.

Well you don't need to imagine, because it's a reality.

[The Slim Reaper]

Imagine thinking that all you have to do is label someone "Far-right" and that means you win the argument.

Well you don't need to imagine, because it's a reality.

And explain where that has been done...

[The Slim Reaper]

Hi there!

this nasty bitter jealous man will use anything to further his own spiteful worldview

he is filled with hatred and his extreme left wing views are an affront to common decency

utterly vile hate speech

:bored:



:wavey:

Unfortunately the crux wasn't his politics, it was the fact that this was seen years and years ago, so pretending it isn't reality, in the midst of what is currently happening is weird.

My far right spectator comment was tongue in cheek nod to this post, except I took the time to explain and clarify what I actually meant because this is supposedly SD after all.

[arista]

Not a Brexit supporting former Labour MP

How are we supposed to call Kate Hoey, "Far-right" and still look sane?


Kate Hoey did Support Brexit

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/27FF/production/_116893201_irishseabordergraffitilarne015.jpg

[arista]

The Loyalists
will not be causing trouble tonight
in respect to the Death of Prince Philip

Ch4HDnews Live.

[Crimson Dynamo]

thats nice

[Niamh.]

thats nice[emoji1]

[Ammi]

...it’s just so heartbreaking to see these images ...so much building of trust over the years completely broken down with empty reassurances and dishonesty...

[Niamh.]

Today is the 23rd anniversary of the signing of the Good Friday Agreement

[Ammi]

...just so very deeply saddening...I read a quote, not directly relating but so true...


‘Anything that is given can be at once taken away. We have to learn never to expect anything, and when it comes it's no more than a gift on loan.’


..it was never something to be compromised and yet it was...

[Crimson Dynamo]

...it’s just so heartbreaking to see these images ...so much building of trust over the years completely broken down with empty reassurances and dishonesty...

Its not heartbreaking at all its criminal vandalism and attempted murder by children

[Niamh.]

Its not heartbreaking at all its criminal vandalism and attempted murder by children[emoji106]