View Full Version : USA: Daunte Wright,20 Killed by a Senior Female Officer
arista
12-04-2021, 05:25 PM
That Female Officer was meant to draw her Taser
sadly she pulled her Gun instead
Press Conference
Live on CNN HD
They still have not released
the Officer's name.
Sadly Loads of shops Smashed up
Looting as well.
[Hundreds of protesters chanting Daunte Wright's
name gathered late on Sunday outside the
police headquarters in Brooklyn Center.
Tensions rose as police donned riot gear,
and two police vehicles were pelted with
stones and jumped on, Reuters news agency reported.
Protesters wrote with chalk on pavements and lit candles,
but police later ordered the protesters to disperse,
with footage showing tear gas and stun
grenades being fired by officers.
About 20 businesses in a nearby shopping
centre were later broken into,
the StarTribune reported, with sporadic looting spreading
to other areas of Minneapolis.]
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56714346
UserSince2005
12-04-2021, 05:27 PM
ffs
arista
12-04-2021, 05:28 PM
The Police Chief returned
Live on CNN HD
A video Showed (FoxNewsHD)
Daunte was
Cuffed outside his car,
He the Struggled to sit back in his car
the Senior Female Officer then Shouts "I will Tase you"
they Stop the rest of the video.
She will not return to Duty
until the full investigation is over
The Police Chief
Had to turn the lights off,
he says Protestors are Throwing Frozen Cans
and Bricks. (and he has the Evidence)
One Officer went to Hospital Hit on the head by brick.
Only 2 People arrested.
https://news.sky.com/story/daunte-wright-death-protests-over-police-shooting-of-black-man-near-minneapolis-12273142
[Daunte Wright death: Protests over
police shooting of black man
near Minneapolis
Tear gas was used and rubber bullets fired
by officers in riot gear to disperse hundreds of protesters.]
the officer apparently made a mistake and shot them with their gun rather than the taser :facepalm:
Crimson Dynamo
12-04-2021, 06:09 PM
a tragic accident
i hope she is shown the utmost compassion and support
Denver
12-04-2021, 06:14 PM
a tragic accident
i hope she is shown the utmost compassion and support
If you can't tell the difference between a gun anf a taser then that all that needs to be said especially when they are not in the same compartment on the belt
Denver
12-04-2021, 06:14 PM
A young life gone over an air freshener and a young child will now grow up without his dad
arista
12-04-2021, 06:20 PM
a tragic accident
i hope she is shown the utmost compassion and support
From the Video I watched
she seamed to be in a Panic
There was a Younger Male Officer standing right next to her.
That 20 Year old
who was shot dead,
phoned his White mother
just before the Police reached his car.
arista
12-04-2021, 06:26 PM
A young life gone over an air freshener and a young child will now grow up without his dad
Yes he was stopped for having Air Fresheners hanging in his car
which sounds normal.
The People talking to the Police Chief
are demanding her name.
Why he sat back in his car
while being Cuffed was strange
but because he did it so fast
that Female officer seemed to panic (On the Video).
Post it if you find it, Denver,
please.
arista
12-04-2021, 06:29 PM
Live on Ch4HDnews now
It was a brand new car his parents bought him.
They showed the Video
on Ch4HDnews
but with low sound.
The National Guard was called.
Denver
12-04-2021, 06:39 PM
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The video which I spoilered because its graphic
arista
12-04-2021, 06:41 PM
Thank You Denver.
Crimson Dynamo
12-04-2021, 07:01 PM
poor girl panicked
it can happen at this very sharp edge of society
NEVER RESIST ARREST
is the lesson here
arista
12-04-2021, 07:10 PM
poor girl panicked
it can happen at this very sharp edge of society
NEVER RESIST ARREST
is the lesson here
She is a Mature Lady Officer
not a girl.
Crimson Dynamo
12-04-2021, 07:12 PM
She is a Mature Lady Officer
not a girl.
when your life is on the balance you can make mistakes
do not resist arrest
Denver
12-04-2021, 07:13 PM
poor girl panicked
it can happen at this very sharp edge of society
NEVER RESIST ARREST
is the lesson here
1) he was in handcuffs for something he actually shouldn't have been handcuffed for
2) Her gun and taser are on separate sides and as a senior officer she should know which side
So either charger her with manslaughter due to incompetence ot charge her with murder for knowing what she was doing
Denver
12-04-2021, 07:14 PM
Also no weapon was ever found on the scene and he was compliant with the officer until she came up and randomly grabbed him
He tried to evade capture, and she ****ed up...big time.
UserSince2005
12-04-2021, 10:08 PM
Seen the video. That poor police officer could have been taken under the car and killed. That man was a monster. Burn in hell bitch.
Crimson Dynamo
12-04-2021, 10:08 PM
Never resist arrest
UserSince2005
12-04-2021, 10:17 PM
Never resist arrest
Never mind resisting. Don’t try and run over/ attempt to kill a police officer.
Reminds me of the Andrew Harper case. Shame he could shoot those 3 scumbags and saved himself
arista
13-04-2021, 12:01 AM
He tried to evade capture, and she ****ed up...big time.
Yes that Senior Female Police Officer
must get Fired.
arista
13-04-2021, 12:06 AM
Never resist arrest
He was not
he had to sit back in his Brand New Car
next to his lady.
Is an Air Freshener Illegal to hang in his brand new car?
Denver
13-04-2021, 01:09 AM
He was not
he had to sit back in his Brand New Car
next to his lady.
Is an Air Freshener Illegal to hang in his brand new car?
It was his mom's car which he was registered to drive
arista
13-04-2021, 01:30 AM
It was his mom's car which he was registered to drive
OK his Mums brand new car,
its tragic that Senior Female Police Officer
got in a panic
and then failed to get her Taser
& Got her Gun,
then killed him.
She must be Fired
No way can it go any other way.
arista
13-04-2021, 01:56 AM
Tonight another Curfew in Minneapolis
Live on CNN HD
Police are firing Tear Gas
to keep them away from the Police Station
President Biden needs to talk about this.
Shops destroyed.
arista
13-04-2021, 02:27 AM
The Female Officer is named as Kim Potter.
https://kstp.com/news/bca-identifies-officer-in-daunte-wright-shooting/6073236/
https://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/2021-04/800startribunebrucebispingofficer-kim-potter.jpg
...very, very tragic and very, very difficult for his family and loved ones to accept because it’s a loss that should never have happened...and ironically so close to the courthouse while Derek Chauvin’s trial is ongoing...the weight, the feel etc of a taser would be completely different to that of a loaded weapon so that type of panic and misjudgement would surely lead to her job in the police force not being possible to continue but that man’s life can never be given back so the heightened emotions are not easily going to diminish...
The Female Officer is named as Kim Potter.
https://kstp.com/news/bca-identifies-officer-in-daunte-wright-shooting/6073236/
https://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/2021-04/800startribunebrucebispingofficer-kim-potter.jpg
...she’s a veteran officer with 25yrs service and presumably an honourable record of service so far...for her to have panicked like she did, doesn’t really fit so I hope that her mental well-being and stress levels atm receive much attention and that investigations are widely focused and not just on her, on those responsible for her as well because a man has lost his life, a family’s world has been shattered and should she ever have been out on public duty, did no one see any possible fragility in her mental health...
the fundamental problem is that they have a choice of weapon to deploy. I can understand how it could have been a mistake in the heat of the moment, but they shouldn't be in a position where that mistake is a possibility because human error does happen
the fundamental problem is that they have a choice of weapon to deploy. I can understand how it could have been a mistake in the heat of the moment, but they shouldn't be in a position where that mistake is a possibility because human error does happen
...mental health is so important to focus on anyway but in an institution such as the police force, it really has to be such a priority because one human error can equal a human life and many, many shattered worlds...
...with a veteran service as she had, why....the difference in weight/feel/size etc of the weapons would have been instantly familiar with...why the panic is what needs to be looked at so closely...
UserSince2005
13-04-2021, 07:00 AM
It was a life and death situation for the officers, caused by the scumbag.
Im okay with the ****er dying.
Denver
13-04-2021, 08:17 AM
the fundamental problem is that they have a choice of weapon to deploy. I can understand how it could have been a mistake in the heat of the moment, but they shouldn't be in a position where that mistake is a possibility because human error does happen
She had 25 years experience she should know what side her tazer is on without looking, they all wear it on the same side as protocol
Denver
13-04-2021, 08:29 AM
Just thinking of this, in order to shoot the good she would have to have removed the safety something that a taser doesn't have so how can she say she didn't know?
arista
13-04-2021, 08:38 AM
Just thinking of this, in order to shoot the good she would have to have removed the safety something that a taser doesn't have so how can she say she didn't know?
Yes it happened fast
She was in a panic.
All he did was sat back down.
He had no weapon.
Releasing the Police body cam video fast
was wise.
But the police chief is no longer
in charge of Kim Potter
arista
13-04-2021, 08:40 AM
...with a veteran service as she had, why....the difference in weight/feel/size etc of the weapons would have been instantly familiar with...why the panic is what needs to be looked at so closely...
Maybe because he was a Black 20 year old.
GoldHeart
13-04-2021, 08:43 AM
the officer apparently made a mistake and shot them with their gun rather than the taser :facepalm:
How TF do you make a mistake like that :suspect::bored:
Crimson Dynamo
13-04-2021, 08:50 AM
How TF do you make a mistake like that :suspect::bored:
maybe if you were in a life-threatening situation you would understand?
as she was
id imagine the opposite has happened and the officer has been shot dead going for a tazer and not the gun
Denver
13-04-2021, 08:54 AM
maybe if you were in a life-threatening situation you would understand?
as she was
id imagine the opposite has happened and the officer has been shot dead going for a tazer and not the gun
There was no life threatening situation, he had no weapon on him and he was cooperating with an officer until she mand handled him then as soon as he sat in the car she shot him.
It was cold blooded murder and she shouted taser to avoid being punished.
A taser would be on the opposite side to her gun, ie a different colour and a lot lighter and does need the safety taking off and the amount of time she shouted taser she had plenty of time to realise it was a gun.
She is a murderer and should face the death penalty
Denver
13-04-2021, 08:56 AM
Police in the US get about 2/3 months training every other country has a minimum of 3 years and they wonder why their officers a trigger happy? The police need massively defunding and they need to ban police associations
Crimson Dynamo
13-04-2021, 08:58 AM
He had a warrant out for fleeing officers and waving or unregistered gun around in June..
Crimson Dynamo
13-04-2021, 08:59 AM
hopefully she will get the counselling she needs and found not guilty
Denver
13-04-2021, 08:59 AM
He had a warrant out for fleeing officers and waving or unregistered gun around in June..
They sent the warrant to an address he had never even visited do at that point the warrant became defunct and couldn't be used
Denver
13-04-2021, 09:00 AM
hopefully she will get the counselling she needs and found not guilty
She needs to face the death penalty
UserSince2005
13-04-2021, 09:04 AM
She needs to face the death penalty
lol. Get a grip. Shes a hero.
Denver
13-04-2021, 09:05 AM
lol. Get a grip. Shes a hero.
Only to racist people
Denver
13-04-2021, 09:08 AM
The woman knows what to say to get off charges she been in a lot of similar cases
UserSince2005
13-04-2021, 09:23 AM
Only to racist people
If a white person had tried that **** I'd feel exactly the same way.
Maybe because he was a Black 20 year old.
...in 25yrs of police duty, she’s hasn’t encountered a black 20yr old, that’s quite doubtful, Arista...what was the reason for a veteran police officer to panic and not realise she was using the wrong weapon...
arista
13-04-2021, 12:18 PM
...in 25yrs of police duty, she’s hasn’t encountered a black 20yr old, that’s quite doubtful, Arista...what was the reason for a veteran police officer to panic and not realise she was using the wrong weapon...
No I think she may have had a Black Criminal before
and that stays on her mind
Cherie
13-04-2021, 12:20 PM
seems dodgy, surely the weapons are fired completely differently
arista
13-04-2021, 12:22 PM
seems dodgy, surely the weapons are fired completely differently
The Video is Posted by Denver
Watch her Panic
That young lad moved fast to sit down.
No weapon.
No I think she may have had a Criminal Black before
and that stays on her mind
...I do t know what you mean, Arista... sorry...she sounded very panicked to me and that she genuinely thought she was firing her taser but it is only a small clip of video...
arista
13-04-2021, 12:28 PM
...I do t know what you mean, Arista... sorry...she sounded very panicked to me and that she genuinely thought she was firing her taser but it is only a small clip of video...
Well then Sack her FAST
Well then Sack her FAST
...of course there needs to be answerability for a man’s life being lost...but if her stress levels were very high and were known to be then there may be more answerability involved...
Marsh.
13-04-2021, 01:21 PM
No I think she may have had a Criminal Black before
and that stays on her mind
"Criminal black" :umm2:
So why haven't any of the criminals of other races and ethnicities left her so "panicked" she's shot them dead?
rusticgal
13-04-2021, 01:53 PM
It looks like they were trying to cuff him and then when the female officer intervened he jumped in the car to try and get away...it looked like she grabbed what she thought was the taser from her colleagues belt...I might be wrong but maybe thats where the confusion came in.
Just another terrible waste of life. Why did he try and get away?...if he hadn't he would still be alive today.
GoldHeart
13-04-2021, 01:56 PM
maybe if you were in a life-threatening situation you would understand?
as she was
id imagine the opposite has happened and the officer has been shot dead going for a tazer and not the gun
She SHOULDN'T be a police officer then , if she doesn't know the difference between a gun & a tazer when she gets in a panic then BLOODY HELL she's an incompetent mess.
She's not a young rookie on her first day , she's an older person with years of experience.
Denver
13-04-2021, 02:02 PM
It looks like they were trying to cuff him and then when the female officer intervened he jumped in the car to try and get away...it looked like she grabbed what she thought was the taser from her colleagues belt...I might be wrong but maybe thats where the confusion came in.
Just another terrible waste of life. Why did he try and get away?...if he hadn't he would still be alive today.
He was already cuffed and they were taking the cuffs off him until she man handled him, she is the whole reason he is dead when she had no business to even touch him at the start
Denver
13-04-2021, 02:03 PM
It looks like they were trying to cuff him and then when the female officer intervened he jumped in the car to try and get away...it looked like she grabbed what she thought was the taser from her colleagues belt...I might be wrong but maybe thats where the confusion came in.
Just another terrible waste of life. Why did he try and get away?...if he hadn't he would still be alive today.
Also it is against the rules to use a weapon that is not your own so she shouldn't even be thinking about using her colleagues Tazer
Crimson Dynamo
13-04-2021, 02:14 PM
She SHOULDN'T be a police officer then , if she doesn't know the difference between a gun & a tazer when she gets in a panic then BLOODY HELL she's an incompetent mess.
She's not a young rookie on her first day , she's an older person with years of experience.
It was a mistake caused by a perp resisting arrest - who then fled the scene.
Tom4784
13-04-2021, 02:33 PM
A taser and a pistol are two completely different things, the taser thing has to be an excuse and not a very good one, incompetence isn't a defense against killing an innocent person.
It was a mistake caused by a perp resisting arrest - who then fled the scene.
victim blaming lt, and i'm sorry, the only person to blame was the person that shot him
Tom4784
13-04-2021, 02:37 PM
People who consistently blame black people for being killed by police officers without any justification for the act are showing their white hoods. I am tired of the right (or should I say White?) wing supremacists standing up for incompetent and murderous police officers just because they happen to be murdering black people.
Crimson Dynamo
13-04-2021, 03:37 PM
victim blaming lt, and i'm sorry, the only person to blame was the person that shot him
he isnt a victim he is a criminal evading arrest the officer was obviously worried he was reaching for a weapon
do not resist arrest and make sudden lunges into cars in the US of A
The poor lady police officer must be beside herself with grief
he isnt a victim he is a criminal evading arrest the officer was obviously worried he was reaching for a weapon
do not resist arrest and make sudden lunges into cars in the US of A
The poor lady police officer must be beside herself with grief
of course he is a victim, he was shot dead in error
arista
13-04-2021, 05:24 PM
Police
Now say there was a Warrant for his (Daunte) Arrest
Crimson Dynamo
13-04-2021, 05:44 PM
this type of accident happens around once a year.
A 2012 article published in the monthly law journal of Americans for Effective Law
Enforcement documented nine cases in which officers shot suspects with handguns
when they said they meant to fire stun guns dating back to 2001.
Bill Lewinski, an expert on police psychology and founder of the Force Science Institute
in Mankato, Minnesota, has used the phrase “slip and capture" errors to describe the
phenomenon. Lewinski, who has testified on behalf of police, has said officers
sometimes perform the direct opposite of their intended actions under stress — their
actions “slip” and are “captured” by a stronger response. He notes that officers train far
more often on drawing and firing their handguns than they do on their stun guns.
Geoffrey Alpert, a criminology professor at the University of South Carolina
and an expert on police use of force. Alpert said a major factor in why
officers mistakenly draw their firearm is that stun guns typically look and feel
like a firearm. St. Paul, Minnesota, Mayor Melvin Carter brought up the same
point during a news conference Monday.
“Why do we even have Tasers that operate and function and feel and deploy
exactly like a firearm?” Carter asked. “Why can’t we have Tasers that look
and feel different? That you could never mistake for deploying a firearm so
that we can ensure that mistake that has happened before can never happen
again?”
In 2019, a suburban St. Louis police officer, Julia Crews, said she meant to
use her stun gun but mistakenly grabbed her service revolver and shot a
suspected shoplifter, Ashley Hall, who suffered serious injuries. Crews
resigned and has pleaded not guilty to a pending charge of second-degree
assault. The city of Ladue admitted no wrongdoing as part of a $2 million
settlement with Hall.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/explainer-officer-gun-taser-77031088
nothing to do with race so rioters and looters can stand down
Crimson Dynamo
13-04-2021, 05:57 PM
GQucO9Dku9k
arista
13-04-2021, 06:11 PM
[Veteran Female Minneapolis cop resigns after
she 'confused her gun for a Taser' when she shot dead Daunte Wright]
Ch4HDNews said the Police Chief also has Resigned
rusticgal
13-04-2021, 06:26 PM
He was already cuffed and they were taking the cuffs off him until she man handled him, she is the whole reason he is dead when she had no business to even touch him at the start
I thought they were trying to cuff him...my mistake.
rusticgal
13-04-2021, 06:28 PM
Also it is against the rules to use a weapon that is not your own so she shouldn't even be thinking about using her colleagues Tazer
Well that’s what you would have thought...it just looked like she grabbed it as she was right behind him :shrug:
Crimson Dynamo
13-04-2021, 06:31 PM
I thought they were trying to cuff him...my mistake.
the reason he is dead is because he committed a crime and resisted arrest and tried to run away
Arista posted a vid of an innocent cop getting blown away by an assault rifle from a traffic stop the other day
Its a horrible dangerous job on low pay, to protect citizens
Denver
13-04-2021, 07:08 PM
the reason he is dead is because he committed a crime and resisted arrest and tried to run away
Arista posted a vid of an innocent cop getting blown away by an assault rifle from a traffic stop the other day
Its a horrible dangerous job on low pay, to protect citizens
You do know stopping somebody for having an air fresher hanging in there video is an on the spot fine and not one that you would arrest someone for ?
Crimson Dynamo
13-04-2021, 07:23 PM
You do know stopping somebody for having an air fresher hanging in there video is an on the spot fine and not one that you would arrest someone for ?
there was a gross misdemeanor warrant for Wright's arrest
police doing their job
do not resist arrest or try to run away
Denver
13-04-2021, 07:26 PM
there was a gross misdemeanor warrant for Wright's arrest
police doing their job
do not resist arrest or try to run away
It was murder hence why people have started to resign before being pushed
arista
13-04-2021, 07:30 PM
[Veteran Female Minneapolis cop resigns after
she 'confused her gun for a Taser' when she shot dead Daunte Wright]
Ch4HDNews said the Police Chief also has Resigned
Some Good news
Denver.
Crimson Dynamo
13-04-2021, 07:34 PM
It was murder hence why people have started to resign before being pushed
its not murder that is just silly
its an accident
Crimson Dynamo
13-04-2021, 07:34 PM
Some Good news
Denver.
thats not fgood news ffs
a man has lost his job
Gstar
13-04-2021, 08:18 PM
[Veteran Female Minneapolis cop resigns after
she 'confused her gun for a Taser' when she shot dead Daunte Wright]
Ch4HDNews said the Police Chief also has Resigned
Good news
arista
14-04-2021, 01:53 AM
The Protesters
are there again
Live on CNN HD and other USA networks
Do they not know the News?
They do not care.
Unlawful Assembly
AnnieK
14-04-2021, 06:24 AM
the reason he is dead is because he committed a crime and resisted arrest and tried to run away
Arista posted a vid of an innocent cop getting blown away by an assault rifle from a traffic stop the other day
Its a horrible dangerous job on low pay, to protect citizens
It is their career choice. They are not conscripted into the Police force, they know the pay and conditions when they join :shrug: You make it out like they are forced into a low paid, high risk job.
She has 25 years service, I'm sure she has faced situations far worse than this one. If the pressures of the job were too much for her now she should have quit before being allowed on the streets with a loaded weapon.
That said, I don't think its murder as there was no initial intent, but it most definitely is manslaughter.
The poor family of the victim. They must be completely shattered by this.
It is their career choice. They are not conscripted into the Police force, they know the pay and conditions when they join :shrug: You make it out like they are forced into a low paid, high risk job.
She has 25 years service, I'm sure she has faced situations far worse than this one. If the pressures of the job were too much for her now she should have quit before being allowed on the streets with a loaded weapon.
That said, I don't think its murder as there was no initial intent, but it most definitely is manslaughter.
The poor family of the victim. They must be completely shattered by this.
...yeah, I would agree with that...there is responsibility for a life but it doesn’t feel like any intent would apply...her shock and panic from that bit of vid at mistaking the weapon seemed so apparent....as I said earlier, with 25yrs of veteran service, it has to be looked closely at how/why she made that error and is there accountability elsewhere as well...when a life is taken, accountability is the fundamental of the law which an officer upholds and I doubt any officer would expect ‘exemption’ from that ...responsibility and accountability is a basis of society...
resisting arrest, running away etc etc etc does not warrant being shot dead. The key principle is proportionate force and shooting someone dead in error is not proportionate
Crimson Dynamo
14-04-2021, 08:48 AM
resisting arrest, running away etc etc etc does not warrant being shot dead. The key principle is proportionate force and shooting someone dead in error is not proportionate
it was a mistake. this sadly happens every year
have a look at citizen accidental gun deaths as well
10 million police and perp/citizen iterations annually
the most weaponised country in the world
arista
14-04-2021, 10:10 AM
CNN HD Live
A decision on whether she will be Charged or not
soon.
Denver
14-04-2021, 10:16 AM
it was a mistake. this sadly happens every year
have a look at citizen accidental gun deaths as well
10 million police and perp/citizen iterations annually
the most weaponised country in the world
A senior officer of over 25 years does not and should not be making those mistakes
Crimson Dynamo
14-04-2021, 10:35 AM
A senior officer of over 25 years does not and should not be making those mistakes
people who have been driving for 25 years die in accidents every day
a mistake is a mistake
as i have already shown, this type of accident occurs once a year
with around 10,000,000 police public iterations
it is NO excuse for looting
it was a mistake. this sadly happens every year
have a look at citizen accidental gun deaths as well
10 million police and perp/citizen iterations annually
the most weaponised country in the world
if it was found to be a mistake then it would be a manslaughter (or equivalent) charge rather than murder... but its still a crime
GoldHeart
14-04-2021, 10:58 AM
Calling it a 'mistake' ,makes it seem like all she did was bump into him while walking down a street. The guy is DEAD .
Crimson Dynamo
14-04-2021, 11:10 AM
Calling it a 'mistake' ,makes it seem like all she did was bump into him while walking down a street. The guy is DEAD .
111 people died from workplace accidents in 2019/2020
https://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/fatals.htm
2.78 million work-related deaths occur every year worldwide
Crimson Dynamo
14-04-2021, 11:12 AM
if it was found to be a mistake then it would be a manslaughter (or equivalent) charge rather than murder... but its still a crime
as i posted there are related cases where damages were paid and a variety of court results to view.
AnnieK
14-04-2021, 11:15 AM
If a someone, with a legal gun in america, discharged their weapon and an officer was shot and killed, they would be prosecuted. There should not be exceptions for someone who carries a badge
Niamh.
14-04-2021, 11:22 AM
If a someone, with a legal gun in america, discharged their weapon and an officer was shot and killed, they would be prosecuted. There should not be exceptions for someone who carries a badge
Exactly
...if a life is taken then there has to be accountability, whether it’s intentional or not...if the law itself wasn’t answerable even if it were found to be ‘human error’, then the law would fall apart because it exists with society trust and confidence in it...
Crimson Dynamo
14-04-2021, 11:33 AM
i dont think anyone here or elsewhere has stated that this should not go through the normal legal proceedings as dictated by USA law
and it will
just as the other mistakes of this kind have
...and then the investigation will determine how it proceeds, I would say...
Tom4784
14-04-2021, 01:23 PM
As loathe as I am to admit it, Meghan McCain brought up some good points about this story. Firstly, tasers are meant to be holstered on an officer's less dominant side while a gun is held on their dominate side, secondly, a glock has a built in safety feature which essentially makes it so you can't squeeze the trigger accidentally, you have to fire it with a knowing intention to do so. Basically, you pull the trigger, it pauses halfway and you've got to essentially 'confirm' you want to fire the gun by pulling the trigger all the way. That and a gun is noticeably heavier than a stun gun, plus stun guns are brightly coloured to help distinguish between the two.
This officer is a veteran that helped train other officers which makes, at best, such gross incompetence worrying. Either way, she must be charged, quitting the job isn't punishment enough for killing a person.
Tom4784
14-04-2021, 01:25 PM
It's always funny how racists will try to victim blame black people for being murdered by the police when white people would survive such encounters without risk of death, but you just know that if this were to happen to a white person, the same people acting like a misdemeanour is a justifiable death sentence for black people would be screeching from the rooftops for justice for a white victim, and I'm guessing the officer would be facing a heavy dose of misogyny too with her incompetence being blamed on her gender rather than her capabilities.
arista
14-04-2021, 05:04 PM
Denver:
Daunte Wright shooting: Officer Kim Potter to be charged over killing
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56752821
Denver
14-04-2021, 05:13 PM
Denver:
Daunte Wright shooting: Officer Kim Potter to be charged over killing
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56752821
Good
Crimson Dynamo
14-04-2021, 05:15 PM
Denver:
Daunte Wright shooting: Officer Kim Potter to be charged over killing
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56752821
same as the case in 2015 when a self-same mistake occurred
UserSince2005
14-04-2021, 05:16 PM
Poor woman. Police should stand down and let the feral population take over. It won’t be long before they are respected
Denver
14-04-2021, 05:36 PM
Why only 2nd degree manslaughter and least give 1st degree manslaughter
arista
14-04-2021, 06:09 PM
Why only 2nd degree manslaughter and least give 1st degree manslaughter
Yes
Another long Court Case
I Guess SkyHD will do the Pop Up Channel
Like Floyds on Ch524
Crimson Dynamo
14-04-2021, 06:09 PM
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It looks like the push behind the "Defund the Police" is planned out. Antifa and Black lives matter will become in charge of law and order, just the same as Hitler Brown shirts did, it's the same playbook being played out, and Barak Obama has been talking about it for years, he even hinted at it this past week.
Tom4784
14-04-2021, 08:35 PM
It looks like the push behind the "Defund the Police" is planned out. Antifa and Black lives matter will become in charge of law and order, just the same as Hitler Brown shirts did, it's the same playbook being played out, and Barak Obama has been talking about it for years, he even hinted at it this past week.
Imagine comparing Black Lives Matter to the Nazis :omgno:.
All this because people want to jump to the defense of officers regularly killing black people for existing.
Imagine comparing Black Lives Matter to the Nazis :omgno:.
All this because people want to jump to the defense of officers regularly killing black people for existing.But they kill more White people, so your argument falls down at that point.
Tom4784
14-04-2021, 09:16 PM
White people in the US don't have to fear that the police will look for a reason to shoot them, and they don't have to fear justice not being dealt since, in the few occasions of police brutality towards a white person, more often than not, the police officer faces consequences, yet it is a battle to get an officer indicted for similar violence towards a black person.
It says a lot that your first reaction to such violence is not 'this is wrong, something has to change' but 'It's okay because I've told myself that it happens to white people as well.' There was a comment in the Brexit thread I believe, about how people don't mind being treated badly as long as someone else is treated worse and your comments remind me of that a lot.
Here he is, "We need to reimagine Policing"
He's been saying it for years, and then during his time as President, Antifa, Black Lives Matter and ISIS were all created.
Barack is behind all this.
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Glenn.
14-04-2021, 09:30 PM
I hope justice is done. Regardless of any crime committed, no one deserves to be shot dead.
Denver
14-04-2021, 09:45 PM
But they kill more White people, so your argument falls down at that point.
The white race is the majority race of the US but if you looked at statistics then you would see a different perspective
Crimson Dynamo
14-04-2021, 10:17 PM
Disgraceful tweet from obamha
The white race is the majority race of the US but if you looked at statistics then you would see a different perspectiveYeah, and in majority Caucasian areas, Caucasian people have exactly the same dealings with the Police as non Caucasian people do in majority non Caucasian areas. The media propaganda is what makes all the difference.
Denver
14-04-2021, 10:33 PM
Yeah, and in majority Caucasian areas, Caucasian people have exactly the same dealings with the Police as non Caucasian people do in non Caucasian areas. The media propaganda is what makes all the difference.
White people have done massacres and allowed to walk out without being shot where a black person has been shot for playing with a toy, sleeping in bed and so on
White people have done massacres and allowed to walk out without being shot where a black person has been shot for playing with a toy, sleeping in bed and so onLike this, do you mean?
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AnnieK
14-04-2021, 10:47 PM
Disgraceful tweet from obamha
How.is emphasizing with a family whose son has been killed.unlawfully disgraceful? How is wanting a police force who don't shoot to kill over misdemeanours disgraceful?
Or is thinking a sympathetic tweet for a family who has lost a child is disgraceful, disgraceful??
arista
14-04-2021, 10:50 PM
It looks like the push behind the "Defund the Police" is planned out. Antifa and Black lives matter will become in charge of law and order, just the same as Hitler Brown shirts did, it's the same playbook being played out, and Barak Obama has been talking about it for years, he even hinted at it this past week.
That is Rubbish
Antifa are being arrested, mostly
arista
14-04-2021, 10:53 PM
Disgraceful tweet from obamha
He could not Handle it when he was
in power
GoldHeart
15-04-2021, 08:35 AM
Like this, do you mean?
ERgx3kkFIjk
Are you even listening , yes white people get shot and killed by police aswell. But the point is you're MORE LIKELY to get killed if you're black or Hispanic in America.
Also trigger happy police don't care ,they will shoot anyone whether you're black , White etc and they don't care if you're UNHARMED they'll still shoot and it's disgusting really . But the systematic racism is there.
Tom4784
15-04-2021, 01:18 PM
Unlike Brianna Taylor, whose murder was never brought before a court, Justine Ruszczyk's murderer was tried and convicted for murder. People do not have to fight as hard for white victims to get justice, and I'm guessing no one who is looking for reasons why Daunte Wright 'deserved' to die, (because a misdemeanour is an acceptable death warrant when it comes to black people, apparently) would have done the same for this unfortunate victim. They would have likely seen her as a victim without making out that it was her fault she died.
Oliver_W
15-04-2021, 02:30 PM
White people have done massacres and allowed to walk out without being shot where a black person has been shot for playing with a toy, sleeping in bed and so on
Who has been shot while sleeping in bed?
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I'm not watching a Ben Shapiro vid lol, but maybe if the constant riots were actually aimed at the police or politicians, some changes might happen.
But no, it's the high street's fault that the police suck.
Crimson Dynamo
15-04-2021, 02:39 PM
White people have done massacres and allowed to walk out without being shot where a black person has been shot for playing with a toy, sleeping in bed and so on
That is misinformation
Oliver_W
15-04-2021, 05:59 PM
That is misinformation
Admittedly, shooting someone for pointing a replica gun at people is more than a little excessive.
But someone getting killed in the crossfire between the police and her boyfriend being spun as "shot in bed" is quite a leap. I mean ... it happened at night, so that's kind of the same as being in bed :joker:
Crimson Dynamo
15-04-2021, 06:04 PM
Admittedly, shooting someone for pointing a replica gun at people is more than a little excessive.
But someone getting killed in the crossfire between the police and her boyfriend being spun as "shot in bed" is quite a leap. I mean ... it happened at night, so that's kind of the same as being in bed :joker:
replica guns are guns they dont have replica written on them
Oliver_W
15-04-2021, 06:51 PM
replica guns are guns they dont have replica written on them
Going for a kill shot when he hadn't fired at anyone? No.
Taser, rugby tackle, knee-capping? Fair response when someone is brandishing a replica gun. What's not a fair response is failing to even give him a chance to drop it.
Crimson Dynamo
15-04-2021, 06:56 PM
Going for a kill shot when he hadn't fired at anyone? No.
Taser, rugby tackle, knee-capping? Fair response when someone is brandishing a replica gun. What's not a fair response is failing to even give him a chance to drop it.
the case has been through the judicial system
Oliver_W
17-04-2021, 12:35 PM
Police in the US get about 2/3 months training every other country has a minimum of 3 years and they wonder why their officers a trigger happy? The police need massively defunding
Oh yeah, giving them less funding will really help improve their training :rolleyes:
Tom4784
17-04-2021, 01:10 PM
Oh yeah, giving them less funding will really help improve their training :rolleyes:
The police have ridiculous funding and most of it goes on weapons and equipment they don't really need. People really need to understand that 'defund the police' doesn't mean what they want it to mean. If they put some of those funds towards training, people wouldn't want them defunded. The US police has ridiculous budgets and most of it is mishandled.
Oliver_W
17-04-2021, 01:14 PM
The police have ridiculous funding and most of it goes on weapons and equipment they don't really need. People really need to understand that 'defund the police' doesn't mean what they want it to mean. If they put some of those funds towards training, people wouldn't want them defunded. The US police has ridiculous budgets and most of it is mishandled.
If the phrase can be so easily misunderstood, it's ineffective - especially if it can be willfully misinterpreted.
Tom4784
17-04-2021, 01:22 PM
If the phrase can be so easily misunderstood, it's ineffective - especially if it can be willfully misinterpreted.
Anything can be wilfully misinterpreted by people who want to misinterpret it. People choosing to be ignorant is not the fault of others who are making a valid argument, silly logic.
Oliver_W
17-04-2021, 01:27 PM
Anything can be wilfully misinterpreted by people who want to misinterpret it. People choosing to be ignorant is not the fault of others who are making a valid argument, silly logic.
Depends really; how often do people who use the phrase "toxic masculinity" have to explain that it means "a toxic brand of masculinity" rather than saying all masculinity is toxic...
Saying "defund the police" makes it sound like people want ... the police to be defunded. If they think the money should be used for training rather than weapons, there should be a better phrase.
And you have a lot of faith in the American police if you think that being given less money means they won't cut the training even more, rather than cutting the amount of weapons they buy.
Tom4784
17-04-2021, 01:45 PM
Depends really; how often do people who use the phrase "toxic masculinity" have to explain that it means "a toxic brand of masculinity" rather than saying all masculinity is toxic...
Saying "defund the police" makes it sound like people want ... the police to be defunded. If they think the money should be used for training rather than weapons, there should be a better phrase.
And you have a lot of faith in the American police if you think that being given less money means they won't cut the training even more, rather than cutting the amount of weapons they buy.
Which is why people want to defund the police in the first place.
I can't really think of many, if any, occasions where all maculinity is branded toxic. Most of the times it's aptly used to denounce attitudes like the idea that men can't be emotional or that they can't speak about their problems or be vulnerable or that men have to act a certain way to be seen as 'manly'.
arista
17-04-2021, 03:01 PM
Defunding The Police
is Against President Biden wishes
So why even debate it?
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