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Denver
18-04-2021, 04:05 PM
An announcement is expected tonight announcing that Liverpool, Man U, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham, Ac Milan, Inter, Juventus, Real Madrid and Atheltico Madrid will join the new European Football league as the first team of a group of 20

Nicky91
18-04-2021, 04:06 PM
ew

who cares, also amid a pandemic this stupid and unnecessary idea :idc:

James
18-04-2021, 05:02 PM
Senior Uefa figures are furious that 11 major European clubs, including five from England, have signed up to a breakaway European Super League.

BBC Sport was told last week of plans for some sort of confirmation about a European Super League.

Uefa hoped to head off plans with a new-look 36-team Champions League set to be confirmed on Monday.

Uefa said it will use "all measures available" to stop the "cynical project" of a breakaway Super League.

The European governing body released a joint statement together with the English Football Association, Premier League Spanish Football Federation (RFEF), La Liga, and the Italian Football Federation (FIGC) as well as Serie A on Sunday.

They said they will "remain united" in trying to stop the breakaway, using both judicial and sporting measures if required.

They also reiterated Fifa's stance that players taking part in the Super League would be banned from all other competitions at domestic, European or world level and could be prevented from representing their national teams.

In a separate statement, the Premier League said it condemned the proposal as it "attacks the principles of open competition and sporting merit which are at the heart" of domestic and European football.

Juventus owner Andrea Agnelli, Manchester United executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward and AC Milan chief executive Ivan Gazidis would all have had a significant input into the Champions League discussions on Friday.

However, it appears those clubs are among those to have broken ranks, to the fury of Uefa, whose president Aleksander Ceferin wanted to stave off a Super League threat.

Spanish La Liga sides Real Madrid, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid are also part of the 11-team group, as are Italian Serie A club Inter Milan.

None of the clubs concerned have responded to questions about the proposals.

The Premier League said a European Super League would "destroy" the dream of fans that "their team may climb to the top and play against the best".

It added such a league would "undermine the appeal of the whole game" and that they would work with the FA, the English Football League, Professional Footballers' Association, League Managers Association and fans to "defend the integrity and future prospects of English football".

The FA said it will "not provide permission to any competition that would be damaging to English football" and will "take any legal and/or regulatory action necessary" to stop it.

Bundesliga sides are opposed to the plans because the German model means commercial investors cannot have more than a 49% stake in clubs, so fans hold a majority of their own voting rights.

It is understood French Ligue 1 side Paris St-Germain are not part of the 11-team group.

Uefa said it thanked "those clubs in other countries, especially the French and German clubs, who have refused to sign up" to the breakaway league.

"We call on all lovers of football, supporters and politicians, to join us in fighting against such a project if it were to be announced," they added.

"This persistent self-interest of a few has been going on for too long. Enough is enough."

Quite when the European Super League would start is unclear.

However, world governing body Fifa has already said it would not recognise such a competition and any players involved in it would be denied the chance to play at a World Cup.

Serie A have called an emergency board meeting to discuss the matter.

The Football Supporters' Association said it is "totally opposed" to the plans, which it said were "motivated by nothing but cynical greed".

They added: "This competition is being created behind our backs by billionaire club owners who have zero regard for the game's traditions and continue to treat football as their personal fiefdom."

It has been agreed the new-look Champions League will involve an initial phase where every club plays 10 matches each rather than the current group phase.

In addition there would be play-offs, followed by a knockout phase.

The most controversial aspect of the proposals surround the allocation of the four additional places, with two being reserved for the clubs ranked highest in Uefa's co-efficient table who fail to qualify for the Champions League through their domestic competition, but do secure some kind of European football.

At the moment, Liverpool and Chelsea would be the clubs who benefited from that system if it was in place this season.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56794673

I'm assuming this is some sort of negotiating position be the 12 clubs to get a better deal from the Champions League, and a breakaway won't go ahead?

I remember when the Formula One teams threatened to form their own championship. That never happened.

arista
18-04-2021, 05:54 PM
Its down to Money.

SkyNews money Editor first reported all this
hours ago.

Crimson Dynamo
18-04-2021, 06:20 PM
how dreadfully dull

bots
18-04-2021, 06:25 PM
uefa and the premier league will ban the players from any other competition, so that should end it in its tracks

Cherie
18-04-2021, 06:55 PM
uefa and the premier league will ban the players from any other competition, so that should end it in its tracks

Good

Beso
18-04-2021, 07:07 PM
Celtic n rangers should there.

MTVN
18-04-2021, 08:41 PM
Football is for the many not the few :fist:

MTVN
18-04-2021, 08:43 PM
Also who the hell do Spurs and Arsenal think they are getting involved? Arsenal can barely make the top 10 of the Prem never mind compete in this 'Super League' and Spurs who haven't won a trophy in over a decade

GiRTh
18-04-2021, 09:03 PM
Also who the hell do Spurs and Arsenal think they are getting involved? Arsenal can barely make the top 10 of the Prem never mind compete in this 'Super League' and Spurs who haven't won a trophy in over a decadeAgree and with the current squad we will almost certainly finish bottom of the super league On the other hand, being in the league will attract better players. :shrug:

Its a power grab and a money grab but I cant see how it can be stopped.

Cherie
18-04-2021, 09:20 PM
What exactly is being proposed, so fans would have to go to Spain and Italy etc for away games :facepalm: and what happens to the PL.?

Crimson Dynamo
18-04-2021, 09:25 PM
GP05EDm9EB8

Cherie
18-04-2021, 09:27 PM
GP05EDm9EB8

Gary was immense tonight in his disgust :clap1:

Alf
18-04-2021, 09:37 PM
Its down to Money.

SkyNews money Editor first reported all this
hours ago.That's what they think.

It's actually down to the people. If the people stopped paying the money to watch and buy merchandise, the money makers would pack it in and go somewhere else where they can make easy money out of people, and we'd have our clubs back.

Dogeatdog
18-04-2021, 09:47 PM
What exactly is being proposed, so fans would have to go to Spain and Italy etc for away games :facepalm: and what happens to the PL.?

Imagine the prices for season tickets. Some would have to probably remortgage :laugh:

James
18-04-2021, 10:36 PM
Football is about open competition, with promotion and relegation. It's not like American leagues which have franchises.

Alf
18-04-2021, 10:48 PM
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Alf
18-04-2021, 10:53 PM
We need Marcus Rashford to come out and condemn this, his opinions holds weight. People listen too and respect what he has to say.

Mystic Mock
18-04-2021, 11:20 PM
Football is for the many not the few :fist:

This.

Plus it's insulting to teams like Leicester & West Ham who have been better than some of the teams in this so-called "Super League" being snubbed because they're apparently not "elite."

At least there was some good news at the New York Stadium though.:joker:

James
18-04-2021, 11:24 PM
I wonder if the likes of Klopp and Guardiola knew about these plans - you'd think it would be unlikely they would be kept in the dark.

arista
19-04-2021, 12:39 AM
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Black Dagger
19-04-2021, 12:55 AM
Disgusting, appalled and ashamed.

Greedy ****ing bastards.

arista
19-04-2021, 01:28 AM
Disgusting, appalled and ashamed.

Greedy ****ing bastards.



Yes it's their Money Group.


Can the UK Clown Prime Minister stop them?
NO, he should run the bloody country

Denver
19-04-2021, 04:02 AM
I wonder if the likes of Klopp and Guardiola knew about these plans - you'd think it would be unlikely they would be kept in the dark.

Klopp had made it clear many times before he doesn't want it at all

Shaun
19-04-2021, 04:09 AM
There are a lot of reasons to be ashamed and embarrassed to be an Arsenal fan right now, but this is top of the list. Everyone who considers themselves a fan of fair, competitive football, or a fan of any of these 6 clubs (or indeed the other European ones) cannot, in good conscience, support this in any way.

bots
19-04-2021, 04:22 AM
this was always a decision taken by the owners of the clubs rather than anyone below that. There have been rumours about this happening for years. We could end up with a situation where West ham/ Everton end up winning the league this year or at least get to play in the champions league. I can see strong measures being taken very quickly against the 12 clubs

arista
19-04-2021, 04:47 AM
this was always a decision taken by the owners of the clubs rather than anyone below that. There have been rumours about this happening for years. We could end up with a situation where West ham/ Everton end up winning the league this year or at least get to play in the champions league. I can see strong measures being taken very quickly against the 12 clubs


Fight Away.


Until the new TV Deals are settled
we do not know how much damage is due.

arista
19-04-2021, 05:05 AM
GMBHD itv did a Great Start on it.


bbc1AM - struggling

bots
19-04-2021, 05:05 AM
i can't see the managers of liverpool and city going along with the new super league or many of the players, so there is going to be an almighty shake up this week

Cherie
19-04-2021, 05:52 AM
Deduct points and fine them now 3 of them should be relegated for maximum embarrassment

bots
19-04-2021, 06:01 AM
Deduct points and fine them now 3 of them should be relegated for maximum embarrassment

relegate the 6 of them and promote 6 ... If money is their concern, hit them where it hurts

Cherie
19-04-2021, 06:08 AM
relegate the 6 of them and promote 6 ... If money is their concern, hit them where it hurts

True, greedy bastards

arista
19-04-2021, 06:43 AM
As a Business
I would Jump at this New Elite Club
they are giving each Football Club
3 Billion Pounds Each




The UK PM can Bugger Off
run the country.

arista
19-04-2021, 06:44 AM
i can't see the managers of Liverpool and city going along with the new super league or many of the players, so there is going to be an almighty shake up this week

Maybe they are not Elite enough, anyway

bots
19-04-2021, 06:57 AM
the attraction of european football is that the big teams play each other infrequently. These teams playing each other every week would just be incredibly boring. There are so many aspects of it that are just wrong. At the end of the day, those teams need fans to pay to watch and i think most true football fans will boycott it. They were already unhappy with foreign ownership and this just seals it

Nicky91
19-04-2021, 07:12 AM
disgusting, won't be following a single match of these fake troll teams

Cherie
19-04-2021, 07:28 AM
As a Business
I would Jump at this New Elite Club
they are giving each Football Club
3 Billion Pounds Each




The UK PM can Bugger Off
run the country.

:bored:

Nicky91
19-04-2021, 07:35 AM
hope UEFA will stop this, as this goes against their Champions League


also this is very rude and condescending towards the smaller teams :idc:



and i'd say fitting punishment would be to exclude these far too elitist teams from CL or EL for the next 2 years at least

arista
19-04-2021, 08:36 AM
hope UEFA will stop this, as this goes against their Champions League


also this is very rude and condescending towards the smaller teams :idc:



and i'd say fitting punishment would be to exclude these far too elitist teams from CL or EL for the next 2 years at least


No its Bugger all to do with them.
New Deal. New TV deals
Fans will learn to Love it.

bots
19-04-2021, 08:37 AM
Barcelona and Real Madrid are in dire financial difficulty through their own mismanagement, and i'm sure that is the reason for this happening now, if they didn't act now they will be ****ed

arista
19-04-2021, 08:38 AM
the attraction of european football is that the big teams play each other infrequently. These teams playing each other every week would just be incredibly boring. There are so many aspects of it that are just wrong. At the end of the day, those teams need fans to pay to watch and i think most true football fans will boycott it. They were already unhappy with foreign ownership and this just seals it



No they are changing all EU
as well.


The Fans will learn to enjoy the 4K Sport with 5.1 audio
for Elite's

arista
19-04-2021, 08:39 AM
Barcelona and Real Madrid are in dire financial difficulty through their own mismanagement, and i'm sure that is the reason for this happening now, if they didn't act now they will be ****ed





Sure could be the root.

Crimson Dynamo
19-04-2021, 08:39 AM
what fan wants to see these teams play each other?

So :Liverpool have just agreed to end their local derby?

Cherie
19-04-2021, 08:40 AM
what fan wants to see these teams play each other?

So :Liverpool have just agreed to end their local derby?

apparently so :facepalm:

Nicky91
19-04-2021, 08:41 AM
No its Bugger all to do with them.
New Deal. New TV deals
Fans will learn to Love it.

No

these dumb moronic elite ruin real football :idc:



every real football fan should boycott this bunch of crap pls

Cherie
19-04-2021, 08:41 AM
No its Bugger all to do with them.
New Deal. New TV deals
Fans will learn to Love it.

says who?

Cherie
19-04-2021, 08:42 AM
Barcelona and Real Madrid are in dire financial difficulty through their own mismanagement, and i'm sure that is the reason for this happening now, if they didn't act now they will be ****ed

They can play each other every week then, the fans will get to love it

Nicky91
19-04-2021, 08:49 AM
also says a lot about these s**te teams competing in this troll rubbish league


hope all of them will lose a lot of fans who go support other real teams instead

arista
19-04-2021, 08:50 AM
says who?



Loads On Times radio DAB
& LBC

AnnieK
19-04-2021, 08:51 AM
Terrible decision.

Obviously been decided at board level, cant see the Managers or players being happy with the prospect of being banned from domestic leagues

arista
19-04-2021, 08:52 AM
also says a lot about these s**te teams competing in this troll rubbish league


hope all of them will lose a lot of fans who go support other real teams instead


No Fans enjoy better Quality 4k Sports
with 5.1 sound

The Best Teams
The Best new group.

Nicky91
19-04-2021, 08:54 AM
they are not the best teams :idc:

bots
19-04-2021, 08:59 AM
No Fans enjoy better Quality 4k Sports
with 5.1 sound

The Best Teams
The Best new group.

Arista, you are talking complete bollocks, the football is already available in 4k etc. I don't believe you are a football fan, so you know zero about what they want.

Cherie
19-04-2021, 09:00 AM
No Fans enjoy better Quality 4k Sports
with 5.1 sound

The Best Teams
The Best new group.

oh shut up

Cherie
19-04-2021, 09:07 AM
Loads On Times radio DAB
& LBC

There has been almost unanimous condemnation Arista, not sure what you are listening to

Cherie
19-04-2021, 09:10 AM
Fans have been described as 'legacy fans' in the press release from these tossers

EADING EUROPEAN FOOTBALL CLUBS ANNOUNCE NEW SUPER LEAGUE COMPETITION
Twelve of Europe’s leading football clubs have today come together to announce they have agreed to establish a new mid-week competition, the Super League, governed by its Founding Clubs.

AC Milan, Arsenal FC, Atlético de Madrid, Chelsea FC, FC Barcelona, FC Internazionale Milano, Juventus FC, Liverpool FC, Manchester City, Manchester United, Real Madrid CF and Tottenham Hotspur have all joined as Founding Clubs. It is anticipated that a further three clubs will join ahead of the inaugural season, which is intended to commence as soon as practicable.

Going forward, the Founding Clubs look forward to holding discussions with UEFA and FIFA to work together in partnership to deliver the best outcomes for the new League and for football as a whole.

The formation of the Super League comes at a time when the global pandemic has accelerated the instability in the existing European football economic model. Further, for a number of years, the Founding Clubs have had the objective of improving the quality and intensity of existing European competitions throughout each season, and of creating a format for top clubs and players to compete on a regular basis.

The pandemic has shown that a strategic vision and a sustainable commercial approach are required to enhance value and support for the benefit of the entire European football pyramid. In recent months extensive dialogue has taken place with football stakeholders regarding the future format of European competitions. The Founding Clubs believe the solutions proposed following these talks do not solve fundamental issues, including the need to provide higher-quality matches and additional financial resources for the overall football pyramid.

Competition Format
20 participating clubs with 15 Founding Clubs and a qualifying mechanism for a further five teams to qualify annually based on achievements in the prior season.
Midweek fixtures with all participating clubs continuing to compete in their respective national leagues, preserving the traditional domestic match calendar which remains at the heart of the club game.
An August start with clubs participating in two groups of ten, playing home and away fixtures, with the top three in each group automatically qualifying for the quarter finals. Teams finishing fourth and fifth will then compete in a two-legged play-off for the remaining quarter-final positions. A two-leg knockout format will be used to reach the final at the end of May, which will be staged as a single fixture at a neutral venue.
As soon as practicable after the start of the men’s competition, a corresponding women’s league will also be launched, helping to advance and develop the women’s game.

The new annual tournament will provide significantly greater economic growth and support for European football via a long-term commitment to uncapped solidarity payments which will grow in line with league revenues. These solidarity payments will be substantially higher than those generated by the current European competition and are expected to be in excess of €10 billion during the course of the initial commitment period of the Clubs. In addition, the competition will be built on a sustainable financial foundation with all Founding Clubs signing up to a spending framework. In exchange for their commitment, Founding Clubs will receive an amount of €3.5 billion solely to support their infrastructure investment plans and to offset the impact of the COVID pandemic.

Florentino Pérez, President Real Madrid CF and the first Chairman of the Super League said:

“We will help football at every level and take it to its rightful place in the world. Football is the only global sport in the world with more than four billion fans and our responsibility as big clubs is to respond to their desires.”

Backing the new European league, Andrea Agnelli, Chairman of Juventus and Vice-Chairman of the Super League said:

“Our 12 Founder clubs represent billions of fans across the globe and 99 European trophies. We have come together at this critical moment, enabling European competition to be transformed, putting the game we love on a sustainable footing for the long-term future, substantially increasing solidarity, and giving fans and amateur players a regular flow of headline fixtures that will feed their passion for the game while providing them with engaging role models.”

Joel Glazer, Co-Chairman of Manchester United and Vice-Chairman of the Super League said:

“By bringing together the world’s greatest clubs and players to play each other throughout the season, the Super League will open a new chapter for European football, ensuring world-class competition and facilities, and increased financial support for the wider football pyramid.”

AnnieK
19-04-2021, 09:15 AM
oh shut up

:laugh:

You tell him Cherie

Cherie
19-04-2021, 09:25 AM
:laugh:

You tell him Cherie

I am in such a bad mood about this :laugh:

arista
19-04-2021, 09:39 AM
Arista, you are talking complete bollocks, the football is already available in 4k etc. I don't believe you are a football fan, so you know zero about what they want.



Its a Business




The Prime Minister's job is to Run the Country

Nicky91
19-04-2021, 09:41 AM
I am in such a bad mood about this :laugh:

+100

i for one love rooting for smaller (budget) teams way more

also this isn't to be compared to america's MLS league either since MLS is a domestic league of theirs (just that america is huge they can expand like that to more teams in the competition)

i have and still am following MLS for quite a long while now, loving almost each state is represented now there

and players wise yes they can attract bigger name foreign stars (what they have done with a David Beckham, David Villa, Xavi, Thierry Henry, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Wayne Rooney) but most must be homebound players, also a way to give the US national team a boost upwards



this european super league is just bunch of elitist rubbish, very unnecessary

bots
19-04-2021, 09:41 AM
Its a Business




The Prime Minister's job is to Run the Country

no Arista, it is a sport

arista
19-04-2021, 09:44 AM
no Arista, it is a sport


Yes it is a Sport
with Big Business backing it.

Babayaro.
19-04-2021, 10:26 AM
Absolute embarrassment.

I hope we see some sort of strike from the players at these clubs.

Babayaro.
19-04-2021, 10:28 AM
Arista clearly knows nothing about Football


shocker...

Cherie
19-04-2021, 10:32 AM
Would be nice to hear from the Managers of the 'Big Six' at some point, minus Jose

bots
19-04-2021, 10:40 AM
i think the managers will be taking soundings from players before they say anything, but I can't imagine any circumstance where Pep and Klopp don't come out against it

bots
19-04-2021, 10:51 AM
LaLiga strongly condemns the recently published proposal for a breakaway, elitist European competition that attacks the principles of open competition and sporting merit which are at the heart of the domestic and European football pyramid.

Today football fans across Europe can dream that their club, no matter the size, may excel, climb to the top and compete at the pinnacle of European football. LaLiga defends this European tradition of football for all. The concept proposed by 12 European clubs destroys that dream, shutting the door to the top of European football, allowing in just an elite few.

LaLiga has a proud, 90-year history as an open, merit-based competition. Millions of fans around the world follow the 42 clubs of LaLiga Santander and LaLiga SmartBank. The success of our competitions has helped football to become a key contributor to the Spanish economy, accounting for nearly 1.4% of GDP and providing employment for nearly 200,000 people.

The newly proposed top European competition is nothing more than a selfish, egotistical proposal designed to further enrich the already super rich. It will undermine the appeal of the whole game and have a deeply damaging impact on the immediate and future of LaLiga, its member clubs, and all the entire footballing ecosystem.

In addition, the breakaway league threatens the rest of Spanish sports to which, in the current season, LaLiga will contribute more than 126 million euros as part of its agreement with the Spanish government and the Spanish FA.

This destruction of the European football ecosystem will also ultimately cause the failure of this new competition and its participating clubs, which have built their success based on the achievement of sports titles and triumphs, which will now be more limited.

We use all measures at our disposal and work with all stakeholders to defend the integrity and future of Spanish football in the best interests of the game.

Cherie
19-04-2021, 10:53 AM
LaLiga strongly condemns the recently published proposal for a breakaway, elitist European competition that attacks the principles of open competition and sporting merit which are at the heart of the domestic and European football pyramid.

Today football fans across Europe can dream that their club, no matter the size, may excel, climb to the top and compete at the pinnacle of European football. LaLiga defends this European tradition of football for all. The concept proposed by 12 European clubs destroys that dream, shutting the door to the top of European football, allowing in just an elite few.

LaLiga has a proud, 90-year history as an open, merit-based competition. Millions of fans around the world follow the 42 clubs of LaLiga Santander and LaLiga SmartBank. The success of our competitions has helped football to become a key contributor to the Spanish economy, accounting for nearly 1.4% of GDP and providing employment for nearly 200,000 people.

The newly proposed top European competition is nothing more than a selfish, egotistical proposal designed to further enrich the already super rich. It will undermine the appeal of the whole game and have a deeply damaging impact on the immediate and future of LaLiga, its member clubs, and all the entire footballing ecosystem.

In addition, the breakaway league threatens the rest of Spanish sports to which, in the current season, LaLiga will contribute more than 126 million euros as part of its agreement with the Spanish government and the Spanish FA.

This destruction of the European football ecosystem will also ultimately cause the failure of this new competition and its participating clubs, which have built their success based on the achievement of sports titles and triumphs, which will now be more limited.

We use all measures at our disposal and work with all stakeholders to defend the integrity and future of Spanish football in the best interests of the game.


:clap1:

Take your American model and stick it Joel

arista
19-04-2021, 11:06 AM
Best way is to have them live
is on Both SkySportsHD and BT SportsHD
at the same time.

arista
19-04-2021, 11:07 AM
Would be nice to hear from the Managers of the 'Big Six' at some point, minus Jose



No
they are counting their NEW bonus

Nicky91
19-04-2021, 01:09 PM
keep those billions coming to amsterdam yes pls


:clap1: :clap1:

bots
19-04-2021, 01:10 PM
Speaking about the proposal for the European Super League, Uefa president Aleksander Ceferin said: "I cannot stress more strongly how everyone is united against this disgraceful, self-serving proposals, fuelled by greed above all else.

"We are all united against this nonsense of a project. Cynical plan, completely against what football should be. We cannot and will not allow that to change.

"Players who will play in the teams that might play in the closed league will be banned from the World Cup and Euros.

"We urge everyone to stand tall with us as we do everything in our power to ensure this never ends up in fruition."

Cherie
19-04-2021, 01:11 PM
keep those billions coming to amsterdam yes pls


:clap1: :clap1:

they will be the relegation fodder :laugh:

Nicky91
19-04-2021, 01:12 PM
they will be the relegation fodder :laugh:

uh no, that'll be City whom definitely have loads of karma coming for them for many years now

bots
19-04-2021, 01:14 PM
Scotland's chances of success in the euros have just increased exponentially :cheer2:

Cherie
19-04-2021, 01:15 PM
uh no, that'll be City whom definitely have loads of karma coming for them for many years now

The founding Clubs can't be relegated :shrug:

Cherie
19-04-2021, 01:15 PM
PSG and Bayern has rejected the madness :)

Cherie
19-04-2021, 01:16 PM
Scotland's chances of success in the euros have just increased exponentially :cheer2:

:laugh: Harry Kane with his feet up watching the Euros on the box

bots
19-04-2021, 01:20 PM
the non founding teams will be given a fiver each for their trouble. The founding teams will take all the money

arista
19-04-2021, 01:35 PM
Its an International New Elite Club

Black Dagger
19-04-2021, 01:51 PM
uh no, that'll be City whom definitely have loads of karma coming for them for many years now

For what? For daring to become one of the elite and shaking it up or for regenerating a ****ing city by investing in housing and grassroots football.

You don't half talk rubbish.

arista
19-04-2021, 02:27 PM
ITV1HD news

UEFA was told to give them (Clubs) more money
that's why this new Elite Breakway is on its way


Bring it on.


And Prime Minister - Just Stick to your own Job
you Ponce

arista
19-04-2021, 03:20 PM
Those 6 Clubs have debts going on £7Billion Pounds

Debated 10AM SkyNewsHD Business Hour (worth recording)

UEFA are having to re structure.

Cherie
19-04-2021, 03:23 PM
Bruno Fernandes appeared to speak out against the European Super League and how it would not replace his “dreams” of playing in the Champions League.

Fernandes’ club, Manchester United, are confirmed as one of the founding members of the breakaway competition, announced on Sunday evening.

But the Portugal international concurred with compatriot and Wolves star Daniel Podence, who insisted the new competition could not replace the history and memories associated with the Uefa Champions League.

"Dreams can't be bought", Fernandes wrote alongside three clapping hands emojis, while quoting Podence’s post on Instagram.

Alongside a picture of himself playing in the Champions League for Olympiacos, Podence wrote: “The Ball. The Song. The Dream. Zidane’s volley... Kaka’s Solo... Liverpool In Athens... Ole in Barcelona... Cris and Seedorf...

“There some things we just can’t really pay for.”


Bruno :love:

Shaun
19-04-2021, 03:32 PM
arista you clearly have no interest in football so I'm wondering why you are prioritising business over the sport? 90% of fans oppose this move, and I dare say the majority of the other 10% are either other-PL-fans trolling or have no idea what the hell the implications of this 'league' would be

The sport has already been incredibly lucrative for soulless corporate ghouls ever since the invention of cable TV packages and Sky starting up in 1993 or whenever... ticket prices have skyrocketed way beyond inflation, merchandise and kits alongside it, and on top of paying £60+ a month to see some games on TV, they now want to go and play in some meaningless pageant?

The very nature of football is to see teams go up and down... if you're finishing at the bottom of the Super League, what's even the point? Who do you dare sell shirts and tickets to? What do the fans have to acheive and dream of? As an Arsenal fan I am pretty resolute in saying we will never win the damn thing, not with Barca/Madrid/the other PL teams present, so what the hell is the point? I should imagine Spurs, AC Milan and Inter fans must feel the same way... not a chance of winning. Ever. Then I imagine Spurs have grown accustomed to that :hee:

I'm not even taking the international implications into consideration... it's a huge middle finger to the FA, and other big European national teams, to essentially jeopardise the best players never being able to play at the World Cup... for ****'s sake it doesn't get bigger than the World Cup, and nothing ever will.

arista
19-04-2021, 03:59 PM
The Culture Secretary
just gave a short speech
in Parliament.


Claiming No Warning

Tough Titty

Black Dagger
19-04-2021, 04:21 PM
Good on them for having some morals.

City have disgusted me in the whole thing. Theyve literally sided with the very clubs that just spent the last 2 years trying to destroy them. Anything for a bit of £££ and we are hardly struggling for it.

bots
19-04-2021, 04:35 PM
the maximum commercial ownership in football in germany is 49%, so the fans hold the majority shareholding, hence no german clubs are involved in the super league. Seems like an excellent system to me

rusticgal
19-04-2021, 04:36 PM
Its so elitist....I cannot believe these teams have agreed to it...no thought for their fans whatsoever.

bots
19-04-2021, 04:43 PM
the normal club fans don't enter into the equation, they know money will come in from "global fans" and they don't need to earn so much when it is only funding 15 teams

bots
19-04-2021, 04:59 PM
Oliver Dowden, Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, said the UK Government will be "reviewing everything the Government does" to support the so-called big six football clubs who have decided to join the European Super League.

Making a statement on the matter in the Commons, he said he has spoken to the football authorities, adding: "My message for them was clear: they have our full backing.

"But, be in no doubt, if they can't act we will. We will put everything on the table to prevent this from happening. We are examining every option from governance reform to competition law and mechanisms that allow football to take place.

"Put simply, we will be reviewing everything the Government does to support these clubs to play. I have discussed these options with the Prime Minister this morning and we are working at pace across Government and with football authorities.

"We will do everything it takes to protect our national game. These clubs have decided to put money ahead of fans."

bots
19-04-2021, 05:23 PM
1384190594700873729

James
19-04-2021, 05:45 PM
The big mistake the clubs have made is doing it all in secret.

Denver
19-04-2021, 05:53 PM
Man City, Chelsea and Real Madrid are likely to be expelled from this seasons Champions League

bots
19-04-2021, 05:57 PM
Man City, Chelsea and Real Madrid are likely to be expelled from this seasons Champions League

doesnt that make PSG the automatic winners? :laugh:

Denver
19-04-2021, 06:00 PM
doesnt that make PSG the automatic winners? :laugh:

They are working out plans on how to end it and will announce on Friday the plans

arista
19-04-2021, 06:00 PM
[so I'm wondering why you are prioritising business over the sport?]

The 6 Clubs are Debt
Shaun

£7Billion pounds.


Its logical for them to take the offer
Mega Money they need urgently.

bots
19-04-2021, 06:02 PM
[so I'm wondering why you are prioritising business over the sport?]

The 6 Clubs are Debt
Shaun

£7Billion pounds.


Its logical for them to take the offer
Mega Money they need urgently.

they could sell a few players, and cut the wage bill and live within their means, like everyone else

arista
19-04-2021, 06:03 PM
they could sell a few players, and cut the wage bill and live within their means, like everyone else


They do not want to.

arista
19-04-2021, 06:09 PM
Half of the 6 Clubs are owned by Americans
so it's all Logical.



Women Clubs will also Join.

Crimson Dynamo
19-04-2021, 06:09 PM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2021/04/19/2004-MATT-GALLERY-WEB-P1-2_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_vE N7c6bHu2jJnT8.png?imwidth=1400

arista
19-04-2021, 06:11 PM
Ch4HDnews Live has dear old Greg Dyke


and Tough Lady

Who says it's all Ruthless Businessmen




Sign Of The Times

AnnieK
19-04-2021, 06:18 PM
Every UTD fan I have spoken to today have said they will never watch another game if this goes ahead. Lots of season ticket holders will not renew either.

arista
19-04-2021, 06:21 PM
Every UTD fan I have spoken to today have said they will never watch another game if this goes ahead. Lots of season ticket holders will not renew either.



They will Come Back.

Shaun
19-04-2021, 06:25 PM
No, they ****ing won't, arista.

bots
19-04-2021, 06:26 PM
They will Come Back.

no they won't, the dislike for these owners has been growing for years, this is the final straw

Calderyon
19-04-2021, 06:27 PM
PES (Pro Evolution Soccer) predicted this.

arista
19-04-2021, 06:28 PM
No, they ****ing won't, arista.


Look you do not know that
Every is guessing.


Massive Debts
have forced these to 6 Clubs
to get more money
which is needed for the Future

arista
19-04-2021, 06:31 PM
no they won't, the dislike for these owners has been growing for years, this is the final straw


Yes Manchester United
hate those American Owners.



Time Will Tell.

bots
19-04-2021, 06:37 PM
i can't see the likes of Alex Ferguson and Kenny Dalglish continuing their association with the clubs either as it stands

Crimson Dynamo
19-04-2021, 06:40 PM
does anyone remember Freddie Laker....

:skull:

Crimson Dynamo
19-04-2021, 06:41 PM
If Rangers did this i would bin my season ticket

end of

Calderyon
19-04-2021, 07:19 PM
But yeah, everything about this sounds greedy and stupid tbh. If they do this their most loyal fans and a big chunk of others are going to abandon them.

Denver
19-04-2021, 07:53 PM
The Government have threatened to put high taxes on transfers and ban visas for foreign players if it goes ahead

AnnieK
19-04-2021, 08:27 PM
The Government have threatened to put high taxes on transfers and ban visas for foreign players if it goes ahead

Good

Alf
19-04-2021, 08:35 PM
PES (Pro Evolution Soccer) predicted this.They also predicted classic players. This means we might finally get to see Pele vs Messi.

Denver
19-04-2021, 08:36 PM
All 12 teams have decided to transfer their European cups to the Super League :umm2:

Alf
19-04-2021, 08:40 PM
Nottingham Forest have won more European cups than Manchester City, Arsenal, Tottenham and Chelsea, combined.

Big six, my arse.

Brother Leon
19-04-2021, 08:55 PM
GP05EDm9EB8

What a hypocrite. Salford City have literally bought themselves into Football League 2. He also wanted their fans to pay £10 to watch a pre season game against some Man United kids. Come off it just because Sky are about to get ****ed over.

Denver
19-04-2021, 09:00 PM
What a hypocrite. Salford City have literally bought themselves into Football League 2. He also wanted their fans to pay £10 to watch a pre season game against some Man United kids. Come off it just because Sky are about to get ****ed over.

So you support the idea? What happens when your team is banned from every tournament and your players are banned from international and the government screw you over? You will play about 15 times a year and people will soon get bored of the idea and youbwint be able to go to games because Ticket prices will be sky high

Brother Leon
19-04-2021, 09:08 PM
So you support the idea? What happens when your team is banned from every tournament and your players are banned from international and the government screw you over? You will play about 15 times a year and people will soon get bored of the idea and youbwint be able to go to games because Ticket prices will be sky high.

I don’t support the idea at all and I hate the Glazer Family with every fibre in my body , but I’m not here for the sudden “Oh. Football has been ruined by Money” like this hasn’t been the case for years now.

Hell, the whole invention of the Premier League was to line up the pockets of some and milk football for all it’s worth. I’m a United fan who’s benefited most from the premier league, but let’s call a spade a spade. The likes of Sky, BT etc and their reactions has been embarrassing.

Denver
19-04-2021, 09:11 PM
I don’t support the idea at all and I hate the Glazer Family with every fibre in my body , but I’m not here for the sudden “Oh. Football has been ruined by Money” like this hasn’t been the case for years now.

Hell, the whole invention of the Premier League was to line up the pockets of some and milk football for all it’s worth. I’m a United fan who’s benefited most from the premier league, but let’s call a spade a spade. The likes of Sky, BT etc and their reactions has been embarrassing.
This is going to destroy British football though as the money the PL generates is mostly because of the elite teams nobody is gonna pay £1b to stick Barnsley vs Fulham on TV

Alf
19-04-2021, 09:14 PM
What a hypocrite. Salford City have literally bought themselves into Football League 2. He also wanted their fans to pay £10 to watch a pre season game against some Man United kids. Come off it just because Sky are about to get ****ed over.Bit different.

Nobody has said "don't put money into a club" but Salford arne't talking about starting their own competition and making a mockery of English football.

Mystic Mock
19-04-2021, 10:29 PM
Bit different.

Nobody has said "don't put money into a club" but Salford arne't talking about starting their own competition and making a mockery of English football.

This.

What the 12 teams have done here is try to destroy European Football as we know it, Salford haven't done that and I'm gathering that they won't be doing that whilst Gary Neville is still there.

James
19-04-2021, 11:07 PM
I don't like agreeing with Gary Neville because he annoys me. :hehe:

arista
20-04-2021, 03:14 AM
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arista
20-04-2021, 03:15 AM
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arista
20-04-2021, 03:18 AM
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arista
20-04-2021, 03:19 AM
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arista
20-04-2021, 03:20 AM
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arista
20-04-2021, 03:21 AM
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arista
20-04-2021, 03:22 AM
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arista
20-04-2021, 03:25 AM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/v7XdqiDadlSF7N6ebHVMpw/https/media.fyre.co/hZMHZjbRi28uWuq0GgwN_front20_1618868794_001.png


Mirror

bots
20-04-2021, 04:59 AM
I don’t support the idea at all and I hate the Glazer Family with every fibre in my body , but I’m not here for the sudden “Oh. Football has been ruined by Money” like this hasn’t been the case for years now.

Hell, the whole invention of the Premier League was to line up the pockets of some and milk football for all it’s worth. I’m a United fan who’s benefited most from the premier league, but let’s call a spade a spade. The likes of Sky, BT etc and their reactions has been embarrassing.

The premier league didn't destroy competition though, that's the fundamental difference.

I don't think the super league can be stopped. I think we are hearing lots of words in opposition to it, but it will all amount to nothing. The super league requires a global audience, it's not interested in local fans, it doesn't need them.

When TV rights are auctioned, sky and BT sport will be in there bidding, because if they don't, someone else will take it and they wont want to lose out on that revenue

The government can't do anything if the teams move their HQ's out of the country. If they don't need the local fans in the new model, they don't need to be based in the original locations either. They have the brands, thats all they need

Denver
20-04-2021, 05:01 AM
The premier league didn't destroy competition though, that's the fundamental difference.

I don't think the super league can be stopped. I think we are hearing lots of words in opposition to it, but it will all amount to nothing. The super league requires a global audience, it's not interested in local fans, it doesn't need them.

When TV rights are auctioned, sky and BT sport will be in there bidding, because if they don't, someone else will take it and they wont want to lose out on that revenue

The government can't do anything if the teams move their HQ's out of the country. If they don't need the local fans in the new model, they don't need to be based in the original locations either. They have the brands, thats all they need
I expect Man City to pull out soon as they were backed into a corner and rumour has it all 3 Italian teams are having second thoughts

Nicky91
20-04-2021, 07:37 AM
have we seen Florentino's interview?



"Football needs to develop, just like companies and people. Football has to adapt to the times we live in. Football is losing appeal, you can tell by the ratings and the television rights. Something had to be done. We are all ruined," the Real Madrid and Super League chairman continued. "Football is a global sport and these 12 clubs, and a few more, have fans all over the world. Television needs to change to adapt. Young people are no longer interested in football. Why not? It lacks quality in certain matches. They have other ways to have fun. With every change, there are always people who resist. What's so attractive about this league? Matches between top clubs, the league, more revenue. I am not the owner of Real Madrid, this is a football club and we are doing this because football is in a critical situation at the moment."


"A Barcelona - Manchester United is much more interesting than a Manchester United game against a more modest club in the Champions League. What do people around the world want? We have fans all over the world. They generate revenue. And that revenue is for everyone. This is a pyramid. If the top tier has money... But not if there's no revenue. One of the main reasons for creating this league is that we want to save football, in general. We want to introduce this as soon as possible. We are going to sit down with UEFA and FIFA. I don't know why they're so angry. UEFA was working on a new model that, first of all, I didn't understand much about, and secondly, it didn't provide the necessary revenue to save football. And by that, I mean saving everyone. We just want to make sure that football is saved over the next 20 years. That everyone doesn't have to worry. The situation is dramatic."


"Footballers are under threat," Pérez said, referring to possible penalties for participating in the Super League. 'The footballers don't have to worry, that's not going to happen. But UEFA needs to be transparent, they don't have a good image and they have to want to engage in dialogue. They shouldn't come up with threats. No one understands their new model and they say they want to start in 2024. We will be dead in 2024," the Spaniard stressed. "There are clubs that lose hundreds of millions. UEFA has not been transparent. It's over. UEFA's monopoly is over. Everyone believes that football will go bankrupt in the current way. We are not being thrown out of the Champions League. I firmly believe that. And not from LaLiga either, absolutely not. Why would the Super League be worse? If clubs get stronger, for example, the Premier League will also get stronger. Everyone. The better the games, the more interesting. The Champions League is only interesting from the quarter-finals. Matches against modest clubs are not attractive enough."

some of important bits

Nicky91
20-04-2021, 07:40 AM
he makes some strong and valid points tbh

bots
20-04-2021, 07:48 AM
Real Madrid and Barcelona have been mismanaged running up huge mountains of debt, unrelated to the pandemic, they have been spending beyond their means for years.

Man City don't have financial concerns, they are doing very well, they have an owner with a limitless supply of cash. Man City will not go bust, PSG will not go bust, Man United will not go bust .... The guy is trying to save his own ass

Cherie
20-04-2021, 07:55 AM
I don't disagree that a Barcelona v Manchester United game is more attractive than one with a more modest Club although that said it depends on the Club involved and there have been some terrific giant killing matches in the past, the point is it is no more than a friendly if neither Man U or Barcelona suffer any consequences from losing a match? how would you respond to that Nicky, they can both go for nil nil, or one could hammer the other one off the park every match, but they will both be still there the following season, so a friendly no less

Nicky91
20-04-2021, 08:10 AM
I don't disagree that a Barcelona v Manchester United game is more attractive than one with a more modest Club although that said it depends on the Club involved and there have been some terrific giant killing matches in the past, the point is it is no more than a friendly if neither Man U or Barcelona suffer any consequences from losing a match? how would you respond to that Nicky, they can both go for nil nil, or one could hammer the other one off the park every match, but they will both be still there the following season, so a friendly no less

it isn't a friendly though

Niamh.
20-04-2021, 08:37 AM
I don't like agreeing with Gary Neville because he annoys me. :hehe:

Same :laugh:

Cherie
20-04-2021, 08:43 AM
it isn't a friendly though

it sounds incredibly boring, the same teams playing each other all the time more or less, it's exciting now because these teams don't meet up very often, if we were looking at them playing each other regularly where would the hype be, I don't get it at all :laugh:

Nicky91
20-04-2021, 08:47 AM
it sounds incredibly boring, the same teams playing each other all the time more or less, it's exciting now because these teams don't meet up very often, if we were looking at them playing each other regularly where would the hype be, I don't get it at all :laugh:

they are those only worthy of playing against each other

rather than all other cannon fodder and dud smaller teams

Cherie
20-04-2021, 08:49 AM
Statement from Everton :clap1:

The strong statement is the first official word from any of the 14 clubs and does not hold back, saying: "Everton is saddened and disappointed to see proposals of a breakaway league pushed forward by six clubs.

"Six clubs acting entirely in their own interests.

"Six clubs tarnishing the reputation of our league and the game.

"Six clubs choosing to disrespect every other club with whom they sit around the Premier League table.

"Six clubs taking for granted and even betraying the majority of football supporters across our country and beyond.

"At this time of national and international crisis - and a defining period for our game - clubs should be working together collaboratively with the ideals of our game and its supporters uppermost.

"Instead, these clubs have been secretly conspiring to break away from a football pyramid that has served them so well.

"And in that Pyramid Everton salutes EVERY club, be it Leicester City, Accrington Stanley, Gillingham, Lincoln City, Morecambe, Southend United, Notts County and the rest who have, with their very being, enriched the lives of their supporters throughout the game's history. And vice versa.

"The self-proclaimed Super Six appear intent on disenfranchising supporters across the game - including their own - by putting the very structure that underpins the game we love under threat.

"The backlash is understandable and deserved – and has to be listened to.

"This preposterous arrogance is not wanted anywhere in football outside of the clubs that have drafted this plan.

"On behalf of everyone associated with Everton, we respectfully ask that the proposals are immediately withdrawn and that the private meetings and subversive practises that have brought our beautiful game to possibly its lowest ever position in terms of trust end now.

"Finally we would ask the owners, chairmen, and Board members of the six clubs to remember the privileged position they hold – not only as custodians of their clubs but also custodians of the game. The responsibility they carry should be taken seriously.

"We urge them all to consider what they wish their legacy to be."

Nicky91
20-04-2021, 08:52 AM
Statement from Everton :clap1:

The strong statement is the first official word from any of the 14 clubs and does not hold back, saying: "Everton is saddened and disappointed to see proposals of a breakaway league pushed forward by six clubs.

"Six clubs acting entirely in their own interests.

"Six clubs tarnishing the reputation of our league and the game.

"Six clubs choosing to disrespect every other club with whom they sit around the Premier League table.

"Six clubs taking for granted and even betraying the majority of football supporters across our country and beyond.

"At this time of national and international crisis - and a defining period for our game - clubs should be working together collaboratively with the ideals of our game and its supporters uppermost.

"Instead, these clubs have been secretly conspiring to break away from a football pyramid that has served them so well.

"And in that Pyramid Everton salutes EVERY club, be it Leicester City, Accrington Stanley, Gillingham, Lincoln City, Morecambe, Southend United, Notts County and the rest who have, with their very being, enriched the lives of their supporters throughout the game's history. And vice versa.

"The self-proclaimed Super Six appear intent on disenfranchising supporters across the game - including their own - by putting the very structure that underpins the game we love under threat.

"The backlash is understandable and deserved – and has to be listened to.

"This preposterous arrogance is not wanted anywhere in football outside of the clubs that have drafted this plan.

"On behalf of everyone associated with Everton, we respectfully ask that the proposals are immediately withdrawn and that the private meetings and subversive practises that have brought our beautiful game to possibly its lowest ever position in terms of trust end now.

"Finally we would ask the owners, chairmen, and Board members of the six clubs to remember the privileged position they hold – not only as custodians of their clubs but also custodians of the game. The responsibility they carry should be taken seriously.

"We urge them all to consider what they wish their legacy to be."

since Everton is not a successful team compared to the elite 12


hilarious how they are crying until it gets embarrassing, stop crying and seek new owners, new investors if you want to be part of elite too

bots
20-04-2021, 08:59 AM
since Everton is not a successful team compared to the elite 12


hilarious how they are crying until it gets embarrassing, stop crying and seek new owners, new investors if you want to be part of elite too

Everton have a very rich history Nicky with much success. This isn't about money, its about protecting a sport

Cherie
20-04-2021, 09:01 AM
since Everton is not a successful team compared to the elite 12


hilarious how they are crying until it gets embarrassing, stop crying and seek new owners, new investors if you want to be part of elite too

I don't know how Tottenham have the nerve to call themselves an elite club when is the last time they won anything

Leicester have more right of a shot at the elite then they do

Niamh.
20-04-2021, 09:05 AM
I don't know how Tottenham have the nerve to call themselves an elite club when is the last time they won anything

Leicester have more right of a shot at the elite then they do

https://i.imgur.com/rSYeetn.jpg

Crimson Dynamo
20-04-2021, 09:08 AM
Aston Villa have been champions of Europe more times than Arsenal, City and Spurs combined; Nottingham Forest have won more than all bar Liverpool and United. Tottenham have won one League Cup in 22 years.

Crimson Dynamo
20-04-2021, 09:09 AM
Half of the 92 clubs in the English Football League have had at least one season in the top flight

Cherie
20-04-2021, 09:19 AM
https://i.imgur.com/rSYeetn.jpg

:joker:

Niamh.
20-04-2021, 09:30 AM
#DefundThePremierLeague

make the super league the only professional league left, so join or become semi-pro

https://media3.giphy.com/media/Qe5oD5aXjEbKw/giphy.gif?cid=82a1493betbs6o6pyrwsck4t2f4gwvqdp1nn 0hgv9aondpl8&rid=giphy.gif

bots
20-04-2021, 09:31 AM
https://media3.giphy.com/media/Qe5oD5aXjEbKw/giphy.gif?cid=82a1493betbs6o6pyrwsck4t2f4gwvqdp1nn 0hgv9aondpl8&rid=giphy.gif

:joker:

Black Dagger
20-04-2021, 09:32 AM
Why does Nicky ruin every thread he posts in with his bull****.

Alf
20-04-2021, 10:09 AM
Kick them all out of the football league. There's no coming back for them now.

Leicester and West Ham can fight it out for the title.

6 teams promoted from each division and get rid of the rebels. They can go play their little league.

Alf
20-04-2021, 10:13 AM
Statement from Everton :clap1:

The strong statement is the first official word from any of the 14 clubs and does not hold back, saying: "Everton is saddened and disappointed to see proposals of a breakaway league pushed forward by six clubs.

"Six clubs acting entirely in their own interests.

"Six clubs tarnishing the reputation of our league and the game.

"Six clubs choosing to disrespect every other club with whom they sit around the Premier League table.

"Six clubs taking for granted and even betraying the majority of football supporters across our country and beyond.

"At this time of national and international crisis - and a defining period for our game - clubs should be working together collaboratively with the ideals of our game and its supporters uppermost.

"Instead, these clubs have been secretly conspiring to break away from a football pyramid that has served them so well.

"And in that Pyramid Everton salutes EVERY club, be it Leicester City, Accrington Stanley, Gillingham, Lincoln City, Morecambe, Southend United, Notts County and the rest who have, with their very being, enriched the lives of their supporters throughout the game's history. And vice versa.

"The self-proclaimed Super Six appear intent on disenfranchising supporters across the game - including their own - by putting the very structure that underpins the game we love under threat.

"The backlash is understandable and deserved – and has to be listened to.

"This preposterous arrogance is not wanted anywhere in football outside of the clubs that have drafted this plan.

"On behalf of everyone associated with Everton, we respectfully ask that the proposals are immediately withdrawn and that the private meetings and subversive practises that have brought our beautiful game to possibly its lowest ever position in terms of trust end now.

"Finally we would ask the owners, chairmen, and Board members of the six clubs to remember the privileged position they hold – not only as custodians of their clubs but also custodians of the game. The responsibility they carry should be taken seriously.

"We urge them all to consider what they wish their legacy to be."Leading the way, well we have too, we're now the senior and biggest club. (we already was anyway, always have been)

Alf
20-04-2021, 10:22 AM
I wonder if we can afford Van Dijk and De Bruyne?

Cherie
20-04-2021, 10:36 AM
I feel sorry for the players in all this, there has been alot of fuss quite rightly made by the fans but the players are pawns in all this and have no say unless they upsticks and move on

bots
20-04-2021, 11:02 AM
i think there will be a lot of transfer requests going in, particularly from those that have an international career. UEFA need to act fast or they will be all bark and no action

Alf
20-04-2021, 11:04 AM
I feel sorry for the players in all this, there has been alot of fuss quite rightly made by the fans but the players are pawns in all this and have no say unless they upsticks and move onThey're all millionaires anyway, I'm sure they'll get by in the short term. In the long term, they can find a job at another club. They may have to take a lower wage, but it will still be more than most people's.

Cherie
20-04-2021, 11:10 AM
They're all millionaires anyway, I'm sure they'll get by in the short term. In the long term, they can find a job at another club. They may have to take a lower wage, but it will still be more than most people's.

That's hardly the point is it, its no different to having a job description changed half way through your contract in any employment, however well rumunerated.

I know some people think money solves everything, but many of these players have families and have roots around the Clubs they play for

bots
20-04-2021, 11:29 AM
:laugh:
1384460436519591942

Niamh.
20-04-2021, 11:34 AM
:laugh:
1384460436519591942

:laugh:

Wolves will be my new favourite if Liverpool leave :love:

Shaun
20-04-2021, 11:52 AM
Wolves are hardly in a position to talk after money-laundering their way through the championship :hmph:

arista
20-04-2021, 12:23 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/19/21/41960026-9488291-image-a-37_1618863201119.jpg
[A Dumb fan attempts to stop the Liverpool team
buses from entering Elland Road ahead of tonight's
match between Liverpool and Leeds United]

Denver
20-04-2021, 12:36 PM
I wonder if we can afford Van Dijk and De Bruyne?

Let's be honest with those 6 teams gone so does about £900m in TV rights

bots
20-04-2021, 01:22 PM
first player to make his thoughts known?
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bots
20-04-2021, 01:24 PM
please stop trolling Nicky

Nicky91
20-04-2021, 01:34 PM
good on Rashford legend :clap1:, well he's ready to leave United then, where could he go, maybe West Ham :think: to join his past teammate Lingard

Cherie
20-04-2021, 01:35 PM
good on Rashford legend :clap1:, well he's ready to leave United then, where could he go, maybe West Ham :think: to join his past teammate Lingard

Lingard in on loan at West Ham

NICKP
20-04-2021, 01:36 PM
Look at World Series Cricket in the 1970s a breakaway league for cricket where those contracted to play were banned from cricket

Nicky91
20-04-2021, 01:36 PM
Lingard in on loan at West Ham

West Ham can buy him easily then since United are a dead team now


all those players of Barcelona, Real Madrid being available next transfer market :flutter: for the real clubs compared to these 12 amateurs

Nicky91
20-04-2021, 01:38 PM
i doubt anyone wants to play for AC Milan, Inter, Juventus either after all this

Nicky91
20-04-2021, 01:41 PM
Super League idea will be gone by Friday i think

Denver
20-04-2021, 01:45 PM
first player to make his thoughts known?
1384494671129301002

Milner was very critical after the game yesterday

Nicky91
20-04-2021, 01:46 PM
Bots means a player from one of founding teams i think

Denver
20-04-2021, 01:49 PM
Bots means a player from one of founding teams i think

Seeing as he captained one of the Founding teams yesterday

Denver
20-04-2021, 01:49 PM
Henderson has called an emergency meeting with PL captains tomorrow over this

bots
20-04-2021, 01:57 PM
I expected more from Pep, he has gone down a lot in my estimations

bots
20-04-2021, 02:42 PM
1384507214530973696

Niamh.
20-04-2021, 03:11 PM
I expected more from Pep, he has gone down a lot in my estimations

At least he said he didn't consider it a sport if you couldn't be relegated or promoted. He's working for these people so I think he's right to at least speak to them before he totally condemns the idea

Black Dagger
20-04-2021, 04:18 PM
I expected more from Pep, he has gone down a lot in my estimations

Hes had a full press conference today slating the **** show.

Cherie
20-04-2021, 04:23 PM
A court in Madrid has ruled Fifa and UEFA cannot levy sanctions on the Clubs destined for the Super League :idc:

bots
20-04-2021, 05:01 PM
A court in Madrid has ruled Fifa and UEFA cannot levy sanctions on the Clubs destined for the Super League :idc:

no corruption there at all :laugh:

Alf
20-04-2021, 05:57 PM
Chelsea have pulled out of the Super League.

One down! Five to go!

Black Dagger
20-04-2021, 06:03 PM
Right. Pull your finger out City ffs.

There were reports that we were the other club uncomfortable. Do the right thing.

bots
20-04-2021, 06:03 PM
yep, that's great news

AnnieK
20-04-2021, 06:05 PM
Think City will quickly follow suit....then hopefully the rest will cave eventually. Utd and Liverpool will stick to their guns for a while but will pull out too I think

James
20-04-2021, 06:06 PM
Chelsea have pulled out of the Super League.

One down! Five to go!


CHELSEA PREPARING TO WITHDRAW FROM SUPER LEAGUE

Sky News understands that Chelsea are preparing documents to formally withdraw from the proposed breakaway Super League.

More to follow...


https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/11095/12279732/european-super-league-plans-live-updates

bots
20-04-2021, 06:08 PM
there were rumours earlier that chelsea and city were going to pull out that were rubbished ... what a soap opera :laugh:

MTVN
20-04-2021, 06:08 PM
Lol pretty sure the whole thing will fall apart now

Should still be punishment for the greedy six

James
20-04-2021, 06:09 PM
This has all been a PR disaster for the clubs involved.

bots
20-04-2021, 06:11 PM
whatever happens now, those clubs will never be trusted again, and you can bet legislation will be brought in to prevent it happening again in the future

AnnieK
20-04-2021, 06:14 PM
News reports say City have pulled out too

Crimson Dynamo
20-04-2021, 06:19 PM
breaking]

meeting with the dirty dozen right now to DISBAND the whole ES fiasco

:laugh2:

Niamh.
20-04-2021, 06:22 PM
How embarrassing

Denver
20-04-2021, 06:23 PM
Athletico Madrid have left

bots
20-04-2021, 06:24 PM
Athletico Madrid have left

:laugh:

1384572320346382336

Denver
20-04-2021, 06:26 PM
I dont want some half hearted apology from the owners when it collapses I want them to sell and **** off

Kate!
20-04-2021, 06:26 PM
Man City have also now left.

Black Dagger
20-04-2021, 06:29 PM
What a farce lmao

Denver
20-04-2021, 06:30 PM
Barcelona have gone

Black Dagger
20-04-2021, 06:32 PM
I hope we still all get fined tbh.

bots
20-04-2021, 06:32 PM
confirmed that city are out

Kate!
20-04-2021, 06:35 PM
What a farce lmao

Didn't last long eh? :joker:

Denver
20-04-2021, 06:36 PM
Arsenal and Man U are gone with Liverpool expected to leave but it was the Glazers and John W Henry who caused this mess so the fact they are jumping so quickly is laughable

Brother Leon
20-04-2021, 06:40 PM
Chelsea and City never made sense. Their owners didn’t need it and it was negative PR for clubs. Especially City who like to be the pure club of Manchester supposedly.

Cherie
20-04-2021, 06:46 PM
:dance:

Crimson Dynamo
20-04-2021, 06:46 PM
a debacle

Shaun
20-04-2021, 07:00 PM
I still hope the government makes moves to implement the German system where 51% of the club is owned by fans. Admittedly I don't understand the system in its completion but it is fundamentally better than this greed.

Black Dagger
20-04-2021, 07:02 PM
Woodward resigning is the worst news of all.

United might actually get somebody competent :sad:

bots
20-04-2021, 07:06 PM
Woodward resigning is the worst news of all.

United might actually get somebody competent :sad:

too funny, they are saying his resignation has nothing to do with the super league .... is there anyone on the planet that believes that :laugh:

James
20-04-2021, 07:06 PM
Aren't Real Madrid and Barcelona fan-owned? They have huge debts.

bots
20-04-2021, 07:08 PM
Aren't Real Madrid and Barcelona fan-owned? They have huge debts.

they have a very complex structure where the president is voted in ... maybe once in he gets free reign

Calderyon
20-04-2021, 07:12 PM
A Fiasco of epic proportions.

Ultimate stupidity.

arista
20-04-2021, 07:20 PM
Chelsea Are Drawing up plans to leave the 6


European Super League: Manchester City withdraw and Chelsea prepare to follow

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56823501

Black Dagger
20-04-2021, 07:23 PM
Chelsea Are Drawing up plans to leave the 6


European Super League: Manchester City withdraw and Chelsea prepare to follow

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56823501

Cheers Slow Sports News x

Crimson Dynamo
20-04-2021, 07:25 PM
I still hope the government makes moves to implement the German system where 51% of the club is owned by fans. Admittedly I don't understand the system in its completion but it is fundamentally better than this greed.

Rangers thru club 1872 are currently buying shares by the barrel load in the club with the aim to reach 25% ownership and become the largest single shareholder in the club.

Current Shareholding
16,202,838

1384427877677031425

arista
20-04-2021, 07:41 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzcRgxeXsAIWOHw?format=jpg&name=small

bots
20-04-2021, 07:52 PM
Petr Cech was out trying to calm chelsea fans earlier :laugh:

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2021/4/20/75cd3521-dd3b-4aff-b6ed-7503355b0c81.jpg

GiRTh
20-04-2021, 07:56 PM
Aren't Real Madrid and Barcelona fan-owned? They have huge debts.3LNZRHyyQTcWeird how this vid came out today.

bots
20-04-2021, 08:04 PM
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Denver
20-04-2021, 08:14 PM
All Liverpool players have posted the exact same message on Social Media confirming that they are totally against the idea

bots
20-04-2021, 08:24 PM
All Liverpool players have posted the exact same message on Social Media confirming that they are totally against the idea

and here it is ...

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bots
20-04-2021, 08:31 PM
Manchester City have just released the following club statement:

Manchester City Football Club can confirm that it has formally enacted the procedures to withdraw from the group developing plans for a European Super League.

Denver
20-04-2021, 09:21 PM
Rumours that FSG are looking to sell Liverpool if the league doenst go ahead, please lord lets hope it be true

bots
20-04-2021, 09:47 PM
The remaining four English teams have decided to pull out of the Super League.

BBC Sport understands a formal announcement will be made this evening.

The moves comes at the end of a seismic day, which had already seen Manchester City pull out, with Chelsea due to follow suit.

Denver
20-04-2021, 09:57 PM
https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/431956-liverpool-football-club-statement-20-april-2021

Statement from Liverpool

James
20-04-2021, 10:20 PM
3LNZRHyyQTcWeird how this vid came out today.

Thanks, very informative.

I've been slightly sceptical of (properl) fan-ownership in the past because I think their might be pressure to over-spend.

arista
20-04-2021, 11:59 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ezc26IFVEAAPnHv?format=jpg&name=small

arista
21-04-2021, 12:00 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ezc26HhVoAECErx?format=jpg&name=small

arista
21-04-2021, 12:02 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ezc27DlUcAoO7Gb?format=jpg&name=small

arista
21-04-2021, 12:03 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ezc27ESVcAUQQez?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ezc25FqUUAUCPP0?format=jpg&name=small

arista
21-04-2021, 12:04 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ezc25E1VEAQro5x?format=jpg&name=small

arista
21-04-2021, 12:05 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ezc25ETVoAY5ic3?format=jpg&name=small

arista
21-04-2021, 12:22 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/6B47/production/_118136472_3e3f498a-e765-457e-a859-31ec8288d9eb.jpg

arista
21-04-2021, 12:28 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/B967/production/_118136474_metro21.04.jpg

Alf
21-04-2021, 01:46 AM
Apparently all six teams have now pulled out.

Ban all six teams from representing our country on the European stage for 5 years, and also a points deduction for all six, minimum 20pts.

arista
21-04-2021, 01:46 AM
All six English teams pull out of European Super League

https://news.sky.com/story/european-super-league-all-six-english-teams-pull-out-12281597

The Problem is still there
until the Next Time.

arista
21-04-2021, 01:48 AM
Apparently all six teams have now pulled out.

Ban all six teams from representing our country on the European stage for 5 years, and also a points deduction for all six, minimum 20pts.


No Ban's Alf


Nothing has Changed


We are Still stuck with Massive
£7 Billion Debts of these 6 Clubs

bots
21-04-2021, 07:34 AM
There will be widespread repercussions. The days of pandering to rich owners is officially over. I can see legislation being brought in so that it cant be attempted again in the future

Cherie
21-04-2021, 07:40 AM
Inter Milan pulling out now

AnnieK
21-04-2021, 07:45 AM
I actually found it funny how quickly this all folded. So much trust has been lost in the big6

Calderyon
21-04-2021, 07:47 AM
ew

who cares, also amid a pandemic this stupid and unnecessary idea :idc:

hope UEFA will stop this, as this goes against their Champions League


also this is very rude and condescending towards the smaller teams :idc:



and i'd say fitting punishment would be to exclude these far too elitist teams from CL or EL for the next 2 years at least

disgusting, won't be following a single match of these fake troll teams

No

these dumb moronic elite ruin real football :idc:



every real football fan should boycott this bunch of crap pls

also says a lot about these s**te teams competing in this troll rubbish league


hope all of them will lose a lot of fans who go support other real teams instead

they are not the best teams :idc:

+100

i for one love rooting for smaller (budget) teams way more

also this isn't to be compared to america's MLS league either since MLS is a domestic league of theirs (just that america is huge they can expand like that to more teams in the competition)

i have and still am following MLS for quite a long while now, loving almost each state is represented now there

and players wise yes they can attract bigger name foreign stars (what they have done with a David Beckham, David Villa, Xavi, Thierry Henry, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Wayne Rooney) but most must be homebound players, also a way to give the US national team a boost upwards



this european super league is just bunch of elitist rubbish, very unnecessary

keep those billions coming to amsterdam yes pls


:clap1: :clap1:

uh no, that'll be City whom definitely have loads of karma coming for them for many years now

he makes some strong and valid points tbh

they are those only worthy of playing against each other

rather than all other cannon fodder and dud smaller teams

since Everton is not a successful team compared to the elite 12


hilarious how they are crying until it gets embarrassing, stop crying and seek new owners, new investors if you want to be part of elite too

good on Rashford legend :clap1:, well he's ready to leave United then, where could he go, maybe West Ham :think: to join his past teammate Lingard

West Ham can buy him easily then since United are a dead team now


all those players of Barcelona, Real Madrid being available next transfer market :flutter: for the real clubs compared to these 12 amateurs

i doubt anyone wants to play for AC Milan, Inter, Juventus either after all this

Super League idea will be gone by Friday i think

cowards for pulling out :idc:

football is dead now all thx to the fans for cancelling this


cancel culture has again sadly won :idc:

:clap1: :clap1:

don't give in to the vile football fans i agree

Interesting.

arista
21-04-2021, 07:52 AM
I actually found it funny how quickly this all folded. So much trust has been lost in the big6

To Be Fair
it never got started
it was only an idea.

bots
21-04-2021, 07:53 AM
"Despite the announced departure of the English clubs, forced to take such decisions due to the pressure put on them, we are convinced our proposal is fully aligned with European law and regulations," the ESL said on Wednesday, adding it was "convinced that the current status quo of European football needs to change".

In an interview with Italian newspaper la Repubblica, Juventus chairman Andrea Agnelli said the remaining clubs will "press ahead" and the project still had "a 100% chance of being a success".

:laugh:

bots
21-04-2021, 07:55 AM
Nicky, you are just being a troll

Cherie
21-04-2021, 07:58 AM
To Be Fair
it never got started
it was only an idea.

It was more than an idea Arista, if it were an 'idea' it would have been floated past managers, players, fans before being announced

Cherie
21-04-2021, 08:00 AM
What I find most sad about this is that the claim is that the younger audience are not engaged by football and that 90 minutes is too long

is this true?

having endured an endless baseball game in Boston, I can't imagine why anyone would think 90 minutes with a break in between is too long :suspect: