Best Michael Jackson song?

[Alf]

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[Niamh.]

The way you make me feel was always my favourite when they came out first

[Denver]

Dirty Diana will always be his greatest

[Nicky91]

None

[user104658]

Umm none of these is Earth Song?

[Niamh.]

Umm none of these is Earth Song?

I hate that one

[user104658]

Did you ever stop to notice
All the blood we've shed before?
Did you ever stop to notice
This crying Earth this weeping shore?

A-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhh

OO-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOO HOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Niamh.]

The 4 best are The way you make me feel, Man in the Mirror, Billie Jean & Smooth Criminal

[user104658]

I hate that one

What about nature's worth though Niamh? It's our planet's womb!

[Alf]

Umm none of these is Earth Song?And rightly so.

[Niamh.]

What about nature's worth though Niamh? It's our planet's womb!

Well maybe MJ should have been worrying more about saving the children than saving the planet tbh :shocked:

[user104658]

To be fair the correct answer from this list is Beat It, for the Van Halen solo.

[user104658]

Well maybe MJ should have been worrying more about saving the children than saving the planet tbh :shocked:

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[user104658]

Ok Ok the right answer is Billie Jean I just didn't want to agree with Alf.

[Niamh.]

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[arista]

The Long YouTube
versions are so good,
I have recorded them onto a CDR.

You take them out of a Cable Audio Stereo
that goes into a Left and Right splitter
from your computer, goes in the back of your HiFi.
And Push the 24bit upgrade on
the Sony Double CD and CDR player/recorder.

Also
The Late & Great Eddie Van Halen (Guitar Solo) is on a Great Moby Remix
that came out on CD Single.
Sony.

[user104658]

The Long YouTube
versions are so good,
I have recorded them onto a CDR.

You take them out of a Cable Audio Stereo
that goes into a Left and Right splitter
from your computer, goes in the back of your HiFi.
And Push the 24bit upgrade on
the Sony Double CD and CDR player/recorder.

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[arista]

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2021


In Japan they are making CD's Former Releases
above 24bit.

SHM CD's


SACD in 4.1 & 5.1 Discs are being made in the UK
and Japan.
TS - you can not download that

[Alf]

The Long YouTube
versions are so good,
I have recorded them onto a CDR.

You take them out of a Cable Audio Stereo
that goes into a Left and Right splitter
from your computer, goes in the back of your HiFi.
And Push the 24bit upgrade on
the Sony Double CD and CDR player/recorder.

Also
The Late & Great Eddie Van Halen (Guitar Solo) is on a Great Moby Remix
that came out on CD Single.
Sony.How nice!

But what's the best song?

[arista]

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=372413&highlight=shm+cd

TS SHM CD even with Bonus tracks

[user104658]

2021


In Japan they are making CD's Former Releases
above 24bit.

SHM CD's


SACD in 4.1 & 5.1 are being made in the UK
and Japan.
TS - you can not download that

You also can't burn it from a lower fidelity source arista that's music piracy 101! You can't regain lost fidelity by converting to a different format... you burn an MP3 source to a CD, it's still going to sound like an MP3. The fidelity is lost... they record these updated studio versions from the source master copies.

Either way, you certainly don't do it by recording the analogue output into the back of your HiFi. You literally CANNOT record anything more than 2.0 audio from your red/white stereo inputs... use your noggin!

IF you must burn to a physical disk (I suggest not, honestly, you can get high fidelity digital files) then you need to burn the source file directly from your PC.

The clue is in the name :nono:. 5.1 = 5 channels + sub. Your stereo splitter cable only carries 2 channels... and over copper cables? Ugh I can't even start this is making me feel ill :bawling:.

[arista]

How nice!

But what's the best song?


One is Great


We're Almost There, 6mins DJ Spinna Remix
The Jacksons with Michael on Lead Vocals

Also

Get On The Floor (London DJ Mix) 8mins

[Shaun]

Human Nature, so I voted 'other'

[arista]

You also can't burn it from a lower fidelity source arista that's music piracy 101! You can't regain lost fidelity by converting to a different format... you burn an MP3 source to a CD, it's still going to sound like an MP3. The fidelity is lost... they record these updated studio versions from the source master copies.

Either way, you certainly don't do it by recording the analogue output into the back of your HiFi. You literally CANNOT record anything more than 2.0 audio from your red/white stereo inputs... use your noggin!

IF you must burn to a physical disk (I suggest not, honestly, you can get high fidelity digital files) then you need to burn the source file directly from your PC.

The clue is in the name :nono:. 5.1 = 5 channels + sub. Your stereo splitter cable only carries 2 channels... and over copper cables? Ugh I can't even start this is making me feel ill :bawling:.





And these New SACD 4.1 & 5.1 Discs
are above any of your downloads




You are wrong about computer cable output
I upgrade it to 24bit.



Yes you can Pay High Prices to get DSD Downloads
I do not need them

The UK Company
Selling SACD in 4.1 and 5.1 are just £11.99
Made in the Old Sony SACD Factory in Austria.

[user104658]

And these New SACD 4.1 & 5.1 Discs
are above any of your downloads




You are wrong about computer cable output
I upgrade it to 24bit.

You cannot upgrade an audio file arista, they make these CD's from the master studio audio. Once it's compressed the data is gone, you can't get it back, so unless you have the master audio downloaded to your computer, you're not getting better sound.

And if you DO have the master audio downloaded to your computer - it sounds exactly the same being played from the file source as it does burned to CD.

[arista]

You cannot upgrade an audio file arista, they make these CD's from the master studio audio. Once it's compressed the data is gone, you can't get it back, so unless you have the master audio downloaded to your computer, you're not getting better sound.

And if you DO have the master audio downloaded to your computer - it sounds exactly the same being played from the file source as it does burned to CD.


24Bit upgrade
is something that Sony added to their CD recorders
I also use a Teac CD Recorder

I am getting better sound.


Its not a Download
On the Fly live from a Source


I can also Record from a DVD & BluRay disc's
to add extra tracks to CD
using the same Left and Right
input.

[Ammi]

Zi_XLOBDo_Y

[user104658]

24Bit upgrade
is something that Sony added to their CD recorders
I also use a Teac CD Recorder

I am getting better sound.


Its not a Download
On the Fly live from a Source


I can also Record from a DVD
to add extra tracks to CD
using the same Left and Right
input.

This isn't how audio works and I'm not talking to you about it any more :hmph:. If you're having fun carry on, I guess y'ain't hurtin' no'body.

[bots]

if the original audio source is 16 bit, converting to 24 bit would simply increase the noise floor. You can down convert 24 to 16 bit, but you cannot get higher quality by up converting from a lower sampled source. Its the equivalent of zooming in on a digital picture. You can make it bigger but it looks ****

[user104658]

OK I lied and have brushed up;

Lossless compression of digital audio has been a thing for a while, and a lot of YouTube videos use FLAC encoded PCM files. You can also download totally uncompressed PCM files in WAV format (large file size) - up to 32 bit natively. What you are essentially doing with your cables and a CD burner, is splitting the file into standard stereo and then upscaling it back onto a CD at max 24 bit. I'm sorry arista but it can only possibly sound like trash. Maybe you need new speakers/headphones.

Either way, you can play 32bit lossless FLAC files directly from a computer, and you can probably even stream them from a decent phone (e.g. to a car bluetooth) that way ... no physical disk required. And if you're going to burn a 24bit CD you want to do it by getting a 24bit uncompressed PCM wav file and burning it using a CD burner on your PC - not on a hifi. It will burn at native 24bit. No need for upsampling.

I just want to help arista I can't bear to think about these lossless hi-def files being screeched through a soundcard, coax cable, hifi and then into a burner. Ripped to shreds :worry:.

[user104658]

if the original audio source is 16 bit, converting to 24 bit would simply increase the noise floor. You can down convert 24 to 16 bit, but you cannot get higher quality by up converting from a lower sampled source. Its the equivalent of zooming in on a digital picture. You can make it bigger but it looks ****

I think arista is confused between the better sound being due to the discs themselves, when it's actually that a lot of artists/record companies are releasing full remasters of their original material from the original studio audio tracks which is where the extra fidelity is coming from; stuff that was originally lost when those tracks were mastered for release. As you say once it's lost it's gone ... the data no longer exists, it's like DVD upscaling, you can smooth out the rough edges but it's never going to be a sharp image. Upscaled old movies look fuzzy. But you also get releases of old movies that are completely remastered from the original physical film reels and those can be true HD (and it's quite fascinating to see old 80's movies looking like they could have been filmed yesterday...)

[arista]

OK I lied and have brushed up;

Lossless compression of digital audio has been a thing for a while, and a lot of YouTube videos use FLAC encoded PCM files. You can also download totally uncompressed PCM files in WAV format (large file size) - up to 32 bit natively. What you are essentially doing with your cables and a CD burner, is splitting the file into standard stereo and then upscaling it back onto a CD at max 24 bit. I'm sorry arista but it can only possibly sound like trash. Maybe you need new speakers/headphones.

Either way, you can play 32bit lossless FLAC files directly from a computer, and you can probably even stream them from a decent phone (e.g. to a car bluetooth) that way ... no physical disk required. And if you're going to burn a 24bit CD you want to do it by getting a 24bit uncompressed PCM wav file and burning it using a CD burner on your PC - not on a hifi. It will burn at native 24bit. No need for upsampling.

I just want to help arista I can't bear to think about these lossless hi-def files being screeched through a soundcard, coax cable, hifi and then into a burner. Ripped to shreds :worry:.

I have other Sources and DAT Recorder
which gives my 6 Hours of artist via Long Play 180mins tape

You do not need you to advise me.


I have bought DSD CD's
and found the LP is missing sounds


DSD Downloads are Great but Over Priced.


SHM CD's from Japan have DSD
and are above 24bit


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[arista]

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This a Fantastic Mix
DTS 5.1
Like you are inside the studio

[Strictly Jake]

So many great ones. But the way you make me feel I think

[Nicky91]

no MJ song what i find great, just heavily overrated and most of which due to papa Joe's too much promoting (even at his funeral which i found ******* rude him promoting some of that posthumous work there)


if there is a Jackson i like, Jermaine Jackson got some nice songs, especially that one with Pia Zadora, huge huge hit that was too

[Alf]

no MJ song what i find great, just heavily overrated and most of which due to papa Joe's too much promoting (even at his funeral which i found ******* rude him promoting some of that posthumous work there)


if there is a Jackson i like, Jermaine Jackson got some nice songs, especially that one with Pia Zadora, huge huge hit that was tooYou wanted me to put "Ben" in that poll for you, didn't ya?

[Alf]

Just for you Nicky


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[Tony Montana]

How can you not have Thriller in the poll?

Anyway, either Beat It, Smooth Criminal, Dirty Diana, Bad or Billie Jean. He's got so many amazing hits.

[Kazanne]

I love most of them as I'm a big MJ fan but think my fave is Earth Song and Man in the Mirror

[Alf]

How can you not have Thriller in the poll?

Anyway, either Beat It, Smooth Criminal, Dirty Diana, Bad or Billie Jean. He's got so many amazing hits.I planned too, but I forgot to put it in.

[Niamh.]

I planned too, but I forgot to put it in.

The video was good, the song on it's own isn't great

[GoldHeart]

So even a music thread gets certain things dragged in again, I doubt Elvis or Bowie would get the same treatment.

Anyway I liked more than one MJ song so I can't pick a favourite.

[Jake.]

TWYMMF is my favourite from that list, although Leave Me Alone is one of my personal faves

[GiRTh]

How can I pick just one of those gems? I go against every one cuz I think Off the Wall is his best album.

I voted for other because both Off the wall and Human Nature arent on the list.

[Zizu]

Remember the Time