Would you give up your Vaccine for someone less fortunate in a Foreign country?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Like India?

you will get yours in say November or early 2022?

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[Kate!]

no. Sounds harsh but its honest.

[bots]

a small number of vaccines in the uk make a big difference to the nations health, the same number in india would have no effect, so it's not a sensible strategy.

The timing of the india surge is the problem, and they haven't helped themselves by locking down until a vaccine supply could be made available.

[Zizu]

a small number of vaccines in the uk make a big difference to the nations health, the same number in india would have no effect, so it's not a sensible strategy.



The timing of the india surge is the problem, and they haven't helped themselves by locking down until a vaccine supply could be made available.



Yes that’s my take on things ... it’s a dreadful situation they’re in but I don’t see how we can do much to help a population of 1.4 BILLION


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[Niamh.]

Yes

[Zizu]

Yes



It’s not just you though .. your decision impacts your family , friends and work colleagues and all their families


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[Beso]

Like India?

you will get yours in say November or early 2022?

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Well I ain't had mine yet, so yeah. I reckon I could pull that excuse off to save the embarrassment of my laziness.:cheer2:

[Toy Soldier]

Honestly though anyone who is saying they would is just engaging in cognitive dissonance the rest of the time. Would you give up 50% or even 25% of your wages to help someone less fortunate in another country? Because you could, you could help an entire family live VERY comfortably in many countries, but you don’t, and you won’t, so why pretend it means something more to give up a vaccine?

[Niamh.]

Honestly though anyone who is saying they would is just engaging in cognitive dissonance the rest of the time. Would you give up 50% or even 25% of your wages to help someone less fortunate in another country? Because you could, you could help an entire family live VERY comfortably in many countries, but you don’t, and you won’t, so why pretend it means something more to give up a vaccine?That's a massive leap. I answered "yes" that was it I wasn't pretending anything, I literally said nothing else [emoji28]

[Cherie]

Tricky one now that being vaccinated also reduces transmission, I would say no

[bots]

That's a massive leap. I answered "yes" that was it I wasn't pretending anything, I literally said nothing else [emoji28]


but we always know what you are thinking neem :eyes:

[Ammi]

...I would also be a yes...but obviously something that ‘my one vaccination’ would have no impact...so I would hope there to be a huge multi country co operation with it ...it’s a humanitarian thing, IMO...it’s devastating../heartbreaking on a scale we could never imagine to be part of...

[bots]

if you are on a plane and the oxygen masks come down, you fit your own first before assisting anyone else. The simple reason being if you don't get oxygen, you can't assist anyone. A similar principle applies here

[Niamh.]

but we always know what you are thinking neem :eyes::oh:

[Ammi]

...no that’s not the same at all, sorry...:laugh:...that confined situation is more one to have a direct impact but the vaccine one isn’t...so I’m going to focus on that atm because otherwise it’s too vague for me and not relevant...anyways, that would be my personal call and stance...

[Ammi]

...this is no direct link to what your thoughts are, bots...but IMO, the world is so leaning toward why we shouldn’t do and there will always be very valid reasons why we shouldn’t...(...I don’t mean we as in us on the forum...)...but that isn’t problem solving, it’s problem shelving and problem turning away from and something that world governments are so very, very excellent at...we should be looking at how we can, because so many lives need us to...they’re looking at the world and pleading for help and for life...

[arista]

Yes



Thats real nice of you

[arista]

LT

In India the Leader Modi
has failed.
It is His fault India is less in vaccines

[arista]

no. Sounds harsh but its honest.


Yes staying Honest is good.

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT

In India the Leader Modi
has failed.
It is His fault India is less in vaccines

i will mark you down as a NO

[Cherie]

India pulled the plug a month ago sending serums to make vaccines to Europe saying they had to vaccinate their own first, I think most people were on board with that...given they make so many vaccines it’s criminal that so few have been vaccinated in that Country

[Nicky91]

yes since i myself don't want the vaccine, but i would want to give mine to someone in a poorer country

and no, not India, that mess of theirs is the government's problem, won't be one to give them any help, fix your own problems and try being a better government



i'd more give mine to some poorer people in a balkan nation such as Croatia

[Cherie]

Rather than asking Joe Bloggs to give up their vaccine, ask the Pharmas to roll out at cost if they don’t want to share patent

[bots]

it's actually more complicated than that. America banned the export of any vaccine components which meant that india didn't have the required components to make vaccines for anyone including themselves. The EU and the USA are the most guilty in this type of behaviour

[Cherie]

it's actually more complicated than that. America banned the export of any vaccine components which meant that india didn't have the required components to make vaccines for anyone including themselves. The EU and the USA are the most guilty in this type of behaviour

Also USA are sitting on a shedload of unapproved AZ vaccine that could be sent elsewhere

[Nicky91]

Also USA are sitting on a shedload of unapproved AZ vaccine that could be sent elsewhere

yes + USA have already loads of millions of people vaccinated, not like they need those unapproved AZ vaccine doses

pretty sure they can manage well enough with Pfizer, Moderna, J & J


they can easily afford to ship off those doses whom lay around and not being used

no excuses for US

[Vanessa]

No. I'm in the extremely vulnerable category.
So I need it.

[GoldHeart]

No because it takes more than that with these less fortunate countries. They need so many resources especially medical stuff like oxygen , which we take for granted here.

[Withano]

I already had both of mine before India’s big wave

But like

The thought didn’t even cross my mind. Not even a little. Ngl.

#getmebacktothepub

[arista]

No. I'm in the extremely vulnerable category.
So I need it.



Yes thats Logical

[smudgie]

No.

[Gstar]

Yes

[Mokka]

No.

I'm responsible for my community, the people I live with, work with, volunteer with, volunteer for. I don't care if I get covid... or perish from covid... but I could not live with being responsible for someone else getting covid and dying because I didn't make the utmost effort to stop the spread in my community.

[Strictly Jake]

Sorry but no I wouldn't. I'm eager to have mine to keep me safe in my type of work and I have a family to provide for and protect.

[Ammi]

No.

I'm responsible for my community, the people I live with, work with, volunteer with, volunteer for. I don't care if I get covid... or perish from covid... but I could not live with being responsible for someone else getting covid and dying because I didn't make the utmost effort to stop the spread in my community.

Sorry but no I wouldn't. I'm eager to have mine to keep me safe in my type of work and I have a family to provide for and protect.

...these are really excellent answers...:love:...I've only skim read the thread so there are probably similar ones said by others ...


...its a complicated question in that when I said yes, I would...I totally mean it... but that yes is based on my life only..my heath, my commitments, my life experiences etc...its not a selfless or self focusing thing, that's far too simplistic and wouldn't give any accuracy...and I'm not engaging in any cognitive dissonance...we're not all in the same places in our lives so our considerations for such a question would never all be the same and our thoughts are very much reasoned ....so please don't say 'sorry', Jake...anyone else with your life...?...I would imagine would reason and have the exact same thoughts...and same response...:love:...

[Amy Jade]

Yes.

[Cherie]

the deal breaker for me is that being vaccinated cuts transmission as well as keeping friends, colleagues and family safe

[Amy Jade]

Jake, I don't know where you live but you can ring up wherever is vaccinating and ask if they have left overs daily and if you can get there they will do that for you on on that day if you are worried.

I am a volunteer at my local leisure center that's been turned into a vaccine center and yesterday night I'd say about half of the people in had rung up last minute, sadly I think doctor surgery's have struggled in some areas to get to younger patients as they are following age stages and there could just be a lot of older people where you live.

[Amy Jade]

No. I'm in the extremely vulnerable category.
So I need it.

Extremely vulnerable people should have already been called up Vanessa, don't harrass your GP or anything but if you haven't try your local vaccine point, it's very likely they will have a spare and be able to fit you

[Strictly Jake]

Jake, I don't know where you live but you can ring up wherever is vaccinating and ask if they have left overs daily and if you can get there they will do that for you on on that day if you are worried.

I am a volunteer at my local leisure center that's been turned into a vaccine center and yesterday night I'd say about half of the people in had rung up last minute, sadly I think doctor surgery's have struggled in some areas to get to younger patients as they are following age stages and there could just be a lot of older people where you live.


Really yeah might do that thanks amy

[Livia]

No, I would not give up my vaccination. I have a duty to my loved ones.

[Calderyon]

Nope.

But I already got it though. Among others.

[Zizu]

No, I would not give up my vaccination. I have a duty to my loved ones.



Same plus friends / work colleagues etc


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[Zizu]

Sorry but no I wouldn't. I'm eager to have mine to keep me safe in my type of work and I have a family to provide for and protect.



Exactly


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Its a no from me

[Conzors]

If it was solely on my health then yes I would - I don’t need it more than them I could probably fight it off if I got it again.

If based on current circumstances (freedom, normal life etc) then hell to the no, soz.