Gay paramedic burnt alive in homophobic attack.

[Kate!]

A gay paramedic has been burnt alive in an alleged homophobic attack in Latvia.

Normunds Kindzulis, 29, died after he was doused in flammable fuel and set ablaze in the suspected arson at his home.

The victim was tragically unable to survive his horrific injuries that left him with burns to 85% of his body

Another gay man was also burned in the blaze as he rushed to Normunds' aid, campaigners urging the police to treat the incident as a homophobic hate crime claimed, according to the*Star Online.

Normunds was rushed to hospital for burns treatment in Latvia's capital of Riga following the alleged attack on April 23.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Homophobic attack"


as its not been established - some are saying suicide

here is a link:

https://www.euronews.com/2021/04/30/gay-latvian-man-dies-after-homophobic-attack-campaigners-say

[bots]

the police weren't going to investigate it and are the ones saying it was probably suicide, but how can that be determined without an investigation. I would suggest there is some clear bias from the police

[hijaxers]

A gay paramedic has been burnt alive in an alleged homophobic attack in Latvia.

Normunds Kindzulis, 29, died after he was doused in flammable fuel and set ablaze in the suspected arson at his home.

The victim was tragically unable to survive his horrific injuries that left him with burns to 85% of his body

Another gay man was also burned in the blaze as he rushed to Normunds' aid, campaigners urging the police to treat the incident as a homophobic hate crime claimed, according to the*Star Online.

Normunds was rushed to hospital for burns treatment in Latvia's capital of Riga following the alleged attack on April 23.


OMG how atrocious ! I m very sad and shocked by this , talk about uncivilised. How can people treat other people like this for such a brain dead reason, its disgusting.

[Niamh.]

Thats horrific

[arista]

Evil Attack and Murder

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Latvia's President Egils Levits tweeted: "There is no place for hatred in Latvia," adding that if it was confirmed to be a homophobic attack, the criminal would be more guilty."

[Tom4784]

Eastern Europe is an embarrassment when it comes to it's attitude towards LGBT people. There is no doubt that this attack was homophobic in nature, and sadly, this murder will likely go unsolved since the police are less likely to solve the case if it's an LGBT victim.

Evil and hate go hand in hand, and the latter enables the former.

[GoldHeart]

"Homophobic attack"


as its not been established - some are saying suicide

here is a link:

https://www.euronews.com/2021/04/30/gay-latvian-man-dies-after-homophobic-attack-campaigners-say

Who the hell would commit suicide like that , it's clearly a brutal attack just admit it .

Horrific crime !

[Crimson Dynamo]

Who the hell would commit suicide like that , it's clearly a brutal attack just admit it .

Horrific crime !

Many have.

[GoldHeart]

Many have.

This isn't about other people though

[Crimson Dynamo]

This isn't about other people though

Neither is about speculation as fact

[Jake.]

"Homophobic attack"


as its not been established - some are saying suicide

here is a link:

https://www.euronews.com/2021/04/30/gay-latvian-man-dies-after-homophobic-attack-campaigners-say

Glad to see that this is your take from the news story

[Jake.]

Anyway, absolutely horrific. RIP

[Ammi]

...horrifying beyond all words...there was also another injured man who tried to help him...

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[arista]

fake news


i don't trust sites such as euronews


EuroNews is part owned by ITN
they are Legit.

[Amy Jade]

This is incredibly sad and clearly not a suicide attempt, I think even saying so is incredibly disrespectful.

I hope they catch the culprits, this man was worth so much and I hope his family know he's a hero.

[AnnieK]

EuroNews is part owned by ITN
they are Legit.

Its being reported on other sites too.

Poor poor man.

[Kazanne]

What a terrible way to die,poor,poor man, I hope justice is served, but somehow doubt it

[UserSince2005]

What a handsome young man. He should have escaped.

[bots]

if a pedestrian gets run over by a car, we don't automatically say the pedestrian obviously intended to kill themselves. The police would investigate and see what actually happened.

If someone dies from burning, the default is not ... it must have been suicide, no need to investigate. The police investigate and find out what happened. This is basic stuff, and the blinkers being put on by some people are laughable

[Cherie]

Horrific way to die poor guy

[GoldHeart]

I just don't understand the casual attitude here ,even if it WAS suicide and that's a big IF , someone has still died in a horrific disturbing way.

[Niamh.]

I just don't understand the casual attitude here ,even if it WAS suicide and that's a big IF , someone has still died in a horrific disturbing way.Exactly, what is wrong with people?

[Amy Jade]

I just don't understand the casual attitude here ,even if it WAS suicide and that's a big IF , someone has still died in a horrific disturbing way.

100% it's disturbing and disappointing to say the least.

[AnnieK]

I just don't understand the casual attitude here ,even if it WAS suicide and that's a big IF , someone has still died in a horrific disturbing way.

Completely agree, its shocking really.

[Cherie]

Is it any worse than hardly anyone commenting on these equally horrfic deaths :shrug:

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=375231

64 views...

[AnnieK]

Is it any worse than hardly anyone commenting on these equally horrfic deaths :shrug:

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=375231

64 views...

I hadn't seen that thread but I still think taking the time to post and say its fake news or whatever is worse than either not seeing a thread or not commenting on it :shrug:

Not that is should be a competition really

[Cherie]

I hadn't seen that thread but I still think taking the time to post and say its fake news or whatever is worse than either not seeing a thread or not commenting on it :shrug:

Not that is should be a competition really

No its not a competition, its not school either, adults will have varying views, that’s life

[Nicky91]

I hadn't seen that thread but I still think taking the time to post and say its fake news or whatever is worse than either not seeing a thread or not commenting on it :shrug:

Not that is should be a competition really

i removed that one yes



this is horrible yes, but we'll see what we will get to know from the investigation



maybe this was something personal who knows, i mean setting someone alight makes me think into that direction either, because normal homophobic attacks usually is more physical beating, kicking



cases like this have happened here in my nation too (not to gay people specifically but whenever there was a personal vendetta or conflict)

[AnnieK]

No its not a competition, its not school either, adults will have varying views, that’s life

Its a debate forum so yes they will have different views and so people can also challenge those views and say they don't agree with it :shrug:

[Nicky91]

Its a debate forum so yes they will have different views and so people can also challenge those views and say they don't agree with it :shrug:

we are all entitled to our own views yes


if indeed a homophobic attack then yes it is disgusting


but if another motive, then still disgusting since it is an attack against a key worker


i personally don't really see Latvia as a homophobic nation :shrug: but tbh you have homophobes everywhere in the world i think, just in some countries more than in others

[rusticgal]

Horrific...poor man.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its a debate forum so yes they will have different views and so people can also challenge those views and say they don't agree with it :shrug:

I think its important on a debate forum to have standards. As this currently is an alleged incident (however horrific) the title should be:

Gay paramedic burnt alive in "homophobic attack".

Just as it is in EVERY media report. It is done this way so as not to mislead. It is a journalistic rule and its one that we should adhere to.

imo

[Cherie]

Its a debate forum so yes they will have different views and so people can also challenge those views and say they don't agree with it :shrug:

Forum members immunity or lack of it to horrible events are not up for debate

[AnnieK]

Forum members immunity or lack of it to horrible events are not up for debate

I don't understand what you mean? So you are saying if someone says something I don't agree with, I cannot say I don't agree with it? Everything is people's opinion and how they deal with things is different but that's what causes the debate aspect surely?

[Captain.Remy]

What an horrific way to die, RIP young man :(

[rusticgal]

I think people have jumped the gun on this thread and making something out of nothing regarding attitude. Newspaper articles have stipulated that 'suicide' was being investigated thats all...but quite probably this wasnt the case. People mentioning this are merely quoting newspaper reports and by no means downplaying or disrespecting what happened to this poor man.

[arista]

...horrifying beyond all words...there was also another injured man who tried to help him...

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Yes this Tweet knows more about the case.

[Tom4784]

Is it any worse than hardly anyone commenting on these equally horrfic deaths :shrug:

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=375231

64 views...

You've tried this argument before, and it never works out for you. It's a wonder why you keep going back to it.

You don't have to comment on other threads to make your opinion in this thread valid, not seeing or responding to certain threads doesn't make the fact that a cavalier attitude (and in some cases, denial of the nature of this attack) any less tasteless. It's not a competition, stop trying to make it so by comparing the two incidents and keeping note of who posts in different threads like it somehow diminishes what they have to say, because it doesn't. It's just an incredibly lazy way of trying to bat aside views you don't like.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You've tried this argument before, and it never works out for you. It's a wonder why you keep going back to it.

You don't have to comment on other threads to make your opinion in this thread valid, not seeing or responding to certain threads doesn't make the fact that a cavalier attitude (and in some cases, denial of the nature of this attack) any less tasteless. It's not a competition, stop trying to make it so by comparing the two incidents and keeping note of who posts in different threads like it somehow diminishes what they have to say, because it doesn't. It's just an incredibly lazy way of trying to bat aside views you don't like.

the nature of this attack has not been confirmed?

is so then a link would be great

[Cherie]

I don't understand what you mean? So you are saying if someone says something I don't agree with, I cannot say I don't agree with it? Everything is people's opinion and how they deal with things is different but that's what causes the debate aspect surely?

You are not disagreeing though you are more or less judging levels of empathy, we read about horrifying events every day, some create more of a reaction than others it doesn’t mean that he didn’t die a horrendous death either by his own hand or something more sinister, pointing out people should have more empathy isn’t going to make it happen

[AnnieK]

You are not disagreeing though you are more or less judging levels of empathy, we read about horrifying events every day, some create more of a reaction than others it doesn’t mean that he didn’t die a horrendous death either by his own hand or something more sinister, pointing out people should have more empathy isn’t going to make it happen

That's exactly what you did though by bringing up another thread that had not been commented on and even stating how many views it had had.

I find people saying its fake news is ****ty.....but I won't comment again, its not worth it

[Cherie]

That's exactly what you did though by bringing up another thread that had not been commented on and even stating how many views it had had.

I find people saying its fake news is ****ty.....but I won't comment again, its not worth it

I brought up another thread as an example that horrific events can be completely ignored, it’s not confined to this case

I’m a bit confused by the reports on it, just read that a disgruntled neighbour set him alight, but in the same article that he had been brought to suicide so it’s unclear

[Amy Jade]

This forum is so messed up.

People getting attacked for posting sympathy for a man who was set alight and killed. Look at yourselves.

[Marsh.]

Glad to see that this is your take from the news story

I just don't understand the casual attitude here ,even if it WAS suicide and that's a big IF , someone has still died in a horrific disturbing way.

This. Sadly not surprised.

Absolutely heartbreaking story.

[Marsh.]

You've tried this argument before, and it never works out for you. It's a wonder why you keep going back to it.

You don't have to comment on other threads to make your opinion in this thread valid, not seeing or responding to certain threads doesn't make the fact that a cavalier attitude (and in some cases, denial of the nature of this attack) any less tasteless. It's not a competition, stop trying to make it so by comparing the two incidents and keeping note of who posts in different threads like it somehow diminishes what they have to say, because it doesn't. It's just an incredibly lazy way of trying to bat aside views you don't like.

Spot on.

[Cherie]

This forum is so messed up.

People getting attacked for posting sympathy for a man who was set alight and killed. Look at yourselves.

Where have you seen that?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Where have you seen that?

It did not happen. It's a shut down

As isxa lot of posts that don't accept that this is at the moment allegation

The narrative is it's a fact and I'm sure that is correct but it's an allegation

And to pretend otherwise is one very, very slippery slope



Still the thread title is wrong

Nothing has been done about it

Make of that what you will...

[Conzors]

I know discrimination happens here but I’d like to think the police would do a full investigation still. Makes me feel so lucky to live here. RIP

[Kate!]

It did not happen. It's a shut down

As isxa lot of posts that don't accept that this is at the moment allegation

The narrative is it's a fact and I'm sure that is correct but it's an allegation

And to pretend otherwise is one very, very slippery slope



Still the thread title is wrong

Nothing has been done about it

Make of that what you will...

Yeah. I'm not planning on changing the thread title.