View Full Version : If charles william and William's kids all died before the queen.
Parmy
06-05-2021, 12:01 PM
Would Andrew become king when the queen died?
Kate!
06-05-2021, 12:02 PM
no Harry I think.
Captain.Remy
06-05-2021, 12:02 PM
Hopefully Meghan takes over :love:
James
06-05-2021, 12:03 PM
Harry would then be next in line.
If an heir is too young I think they have to appoint a Prince Regent or something like that, which would be another Royal, but I'd have to check.
Parmy
06-05-2021, 12:05 PM
no Harry I think.
Not if the queen was still alive, it would go to her 2nd son.
The Slim Reaper
06-05-2021, 12:07 PM
Isn't Anne older, so would be ahead? Although I'm not sure on the ages thing.
edit: just googled anne, an she's 15th in line, so I was wrong about her being ahead.
James
06-05-2021, 12:08 PM
The line of Succession
SOVEREIGN
1. The Prince of Wales
2. The Duke of Cambridge
3. Prince George of Cambridge
4. Princess Charlotte of Cambridge
5. Prince Louis of Cambridge
6. The Duke of Sussex
7. Master Archie Mountbatten-Windsor
8. The Duke of York
9. Princess Beatrice, Mrs. Edoardo Mapelli Mozzi
10. Princess Eugenie, Mrs. Jack Brooksbank
11. Master August Brooksbank
12. The Earl of Wessex
13. Viscount Severn
14. The Lady Louise Mountbatten-Windsor
15. The Princess Royal
16. Mr. Peter Phillips
17. Miss Savannah Phillips
18. Miss Isla Phillips
19. Mrs. Michael Tindall
20. Miss Mia Tindall
21. Miss Lena Tindall
22. Master Lucas Tindall
https://www.royal.uk/succession
Parmy
06-05-2021, 12:10 PM
https://www.royal.uk/succession
But that's just the natural selection thing with no twists and turns..it changes if some people die and the queen is still alive afterwards.
Anne is older, but it has nothing to do with that line. Charles entire tree under him would need to be wiped out else one of Charles direct descendants would be crowned.
Anne, Princess Royal is the Queen's second child and only daughter. When she was born she was third in line to the throne, but is now 15th. She was given the title Princess Royal in June 1987.
Denver
06-05-2021, 12:14 PM
Its complicated and im sure if if all of Wills kids died with him it would go straight to the Queens next oldest son which is Andrew and not Harry because as soon as kids are born he loses his chance of becoming king as it doesn't get passed on to the Uncle but the Queens next oldest male child
…well there are discussions about tapering down the royal institution atm, it’s been reported so maybe we wouldn’t have a sovereign…
James
06-05-2021, 12:15 PM
Not if the queen was still alive, it would go to her 2nd son.
No, if for instance Charles died before the Queen, William would become King.
Isn't Anne older, so would be ahead? Although I'm not sure on the ages thing.
edit: just googled anne, an she's 15th in line, so I was wrong about her being ahead.
It used to be the oldest male heir took precedence, and that still applies to Anne. They changed it quite recently though so that male heirs aren't ahead.
Denver
06-05-2021, 12:15 PM
Anne is older, but it has nothing to do with that line. Charles entire tree under him would need to be wiped out else one of Charles direct descendants would be crowned.
Anne, Princess Royal is the Queen's second child and only daughter. When she was born she was third in line to the throne, but is now 15th. She was given the title Princess Royal in June 1987.
Because she was born before the 2011 reform all her brothers would jump ahead of her but any daughter born after 2011 would automatically be ahead of her younger brother
The Slim Reaper
06-05-2021, 12:17 PM
No, if for instance Charles died before the Queen, William would become King.
It used to be the oldest male heir took precedence, and that still applies to Anne. They changed it quite recently though so that male heirs aren't ahead.
Cheers.
Denver
06-05-2021, 12:20 PM
Also if Will was king and died before his kids were of a mature age to reign then Andrew would become stand in king
The war of the roses that led to Henry the 8ths father becoming king was probably the most complex example of how the family line can be affected if one or all are wiped out. That was a truly ****ed up time :laugh:
Denver
06-05-2021, 12:22 PM
Also wirh Harry relinquishing all Royal roles i dont think there would ever be a position he could take over because he has exiled himself from the Royal family
James
06-05-2021, 12:29 PM
Also if Will was king and died before his kids were of a mature age to reign then Andrew would become stand in king
According to this it would be Harry but he would have to move back to the UK.
As of 2020, the first person under the age of 18 in the line of succession to the throne is William's son Prince George of Cambridge, who is third in line to the throne after his grandfather and father. If the prince were to succeed to the throne before his 18th birthday on 22 July 2031, his uncle, Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex (the Prince of Wales' younger son), would serve as regent (if domiciled in the United Kingdom, as required by the 1937 Act), as George's younger siblings Charlotte and Louis (currently fourth and fifth in line, respectively) would also be minors. In the event that Prince Harry would be unable to serve as regent (a possibility since his 2019 decision to take up residence in the United States), the next in line would be his uncle (Prince George's grand-uncle) Prince Andrew, Duke of York, followed by the Duke of York's elder daughter Princess Beatrice.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regency_Acts#Regency
Liam-
06-05-2021, 12:36 PM
Also if Will was king and died before his kids were of a mature age to reign then Andrew would become stand in king
False, that would be Harry
There is no way Andrew or Harry would get the role of regent, both have stepped away from royal duties so it would be Beatrice, which i would be quite happy with
Crimson Dynamo
06-05-2021, 12:42 PM
Good to see Louis get the Europa spot
James
06-05-2021, 12:56 PM
The war of the roses that led to Henry the 8ths father becoming king was probably the most complex example of how the family line can be affected if one or all are wiped out. That was a truly ****ed up time :laugh:
Does anyone remember this film?
King Ralph is a 1991 American comedy film written and directed by David S. Ward and starring John Goodman, Peter O'Toole, and John Hurt.[2] The film is about an American who becomes the unlikely King of the United Kingdom after an electrical accident wipes out the British Royal Family.
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5178&stc=1&d=1620305734
UserSince2005
06-05-2021, 01:01 PM
Meghan's murder plans exposed?
armand.kay
06-05-2021, 01:43 PM
tbh i think (hope) it would be curtains for the royal family if all that happened...
rusticgal
06-05-2021, 01:57 PM
Also wirh Harry relinquishing all Royal roles i dont think there would ever be a position he could take over because he has exiled himself from the Royal family
Thats what I was wondering....
yeah, as harry and andrew have both relinquished royal roles, they can't then turn round and say ... oh, i will be regent? nice ... i will go for that :laugh:
King Harry could save the Royal Family imho
The ‘firm’ are gonna take a major dive in popularity when Queenie departs and Charlie boy takes the reins
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rusticgal
06-05-2021, 04:46 PM
King Harry could save the Royal Family imho
The ‘firm’ are gonna take a major dive in popularity when Queenie departs and Charlie boy takes the reins
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I completely disagree...although I think people would like to see William come to the Throne instead of Charles...I think he is respected and loved by a Majority of the GBP. I do think Charles would still be accepted as King.
Im afraid King Harry will never be....and if he did that truly would be the end. Why would anyone want Harry as king when he cant even deal with being a Prince...:laugh:
Marsh.
06-05-2021, 05:55 PM
Yep, the monarchy's days are numbered.
The Slim Reaper
06-05-2021, 06:23 PM
I completely disagree...although I think people would like to see William come to the Throne instead of Charles...I think he is respected and loved by a Majority of the GBP. I do think Charles would still be accepted as King.
Im afraid King Harry will never be....and if he did that truly would be the end. Why would anyone want Harry as king when he cant even deal with being a Prince...:laugh:
Why would anyone want Boris as PM when he couldn't handle being foreign secretary? Easy this.
Kate!
06-05-2021, 06:27 PM
I don't think Charles would be well received as king considering we'd have Queen Camilla. Diana would roll in her grave. That home wrecking harlot is no Queen. Let William take the reins.
I completely disagree...although I think people would like to see William come to the Throne instead of Charles...I think he is respected and loved by a Majority of the GBP. I do think Charles would still be accepted as King.
Im afraid King Harry will never be....and if he did that truly would be the end. Why would anyone want Harry as king when he cant even deal with being a Prince...:laugh:
I’d be very interested to see a poll on the popularity of the individuals royals ... before MM appeared on the scene everyone loved Harry so I think he’s won them all over ..
Charles will never be liked nor forgiven for his despicable behaviour ( Di) .
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I don't think Charles would be well received as king considering we'd have Queen Camilla. Diana would roll in her grave. That home wrecking harlot is no Queen. Let William take the reins.
That’s the only possible compromise tbh
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I’d be very interested to see a poll on the popularity of the individuals royals ... before MM appeared on the scene everyone loved Harry so I think he’s won them all over ..
Charles will never be liked nor forgiven for his despicable behaviour ( Di) .
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tion&ci=143247
Here you go:
These are the most popular royals (rated very positive or positive) according to a YouGov poll of 1,730 Britons between April 21 and 22:
The Queen: 85 per cent (net: +78)
Prince William: 80 per cent (net: +68)
Kate Middleton: 78 per cent (net: +67)
Princess Anne: 70 per cent (net: +58)
Prince Charles: 58 per cent (net: +25)
Prince Edward: 54 per cent (net: +35)
Prince Harry: 43 per cent (net: -6)
Camilla Parker Bowles: 43 per cent (net: +1)
Meghan Markle: 29 per cent (net: -32)
Prince Andrew: 10 per cent (net: -69)
To think that Harry used to be often second after the Queen, now he's on a par with Camilla, and Megs is only more popular than Andrew.
Charles is more popular than either of them.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tion&ci=143247
Here you go:
These are the most popular royals (rated very positive or positive) according to a YouGov poll of 1,730 Britons between April 21 and 22:
The Queen: 85 per cent (net: +78)
Prince William: 80 per cent (net: +68)
Kate Middleton: 78 per cent (net: +67)
Princess Anne: 70 per cent (net: +58)
Prince Charles: 58 per cent (net: +25)
Prince Edward: 54 per cent (net: +35)
Prince Harry: 43 per cent (net: -6)
Camilla Parker Bowles: 43 per cent (net: +1)
Meghan Markle: 29 per cent (net: -32)
Prince Andrew: 10 per cent (net: -69)
To think that Harry used to be often second after the Queen, now he's on a par with Camilla, and Megs is only more popular than Andrew.
Charles is more popular than either of them.
I think people will easily forgive Harry’s indiscretions but never forget Camilla’s
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I completely disagree...although I think people would like to see William come to the Throne instead of Charles...I think he is respected and loved by a Majority of the GBP. I do think Charles would still be accepted as King.
Im afraid King Harry will never be....and if he did that truly would be the end. Why would anyone want Harry as king when he cant even deal with being a Prince...:laugh:
Agree with every word of this. Well said.
I completely disagree...although I think people would like to see William come to the Throne instead of Charles...I think he is respected and loved by a Majority of the GBP. I do think Charles would still be accepted as King.
Im afraid King Harry will never be....and if he did that truly would be the end. Why would anyone want Harry as king when he cant even deal with being a Prince...:laugh:
He's arguably the only Royal who's had the guts to walk away from the 'family' and all the privilege and wealth .
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GoldHeart
07-05-2021, 12:05 AM
I don't think Charles would be well received as king considering we'd have Queen Camilla. Diana would roll in her grave. That home wrecking harlot is no Queen. Let William take the reins.
I keep thinking that's what will happen aswell
rusticgal
07-05-2021, 12:10 AM
He's arguably the only Royal who's had the guts to walk away from the 'family' and all the privilege and wealth .
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Edward abdicated for the love of his wife...Harry isn’t the first Royal to leave ‘the Family’. Harry walked away for ‘a quieter life’ and independence but he moaned on NT for the LOSS of their privilege and wealth...:shrug:
rusticgal
07-05-2021, 12:13 AM
I don't think Charles would be well received as king considering we'd have Queen Camilla. Diana would roll in her grave. That home wrecking harlot is no Queen. Let William take the reins.
I agree...but Camilla was no more of a home wrecker than Charles...they were both married with a family...
Ashley.
07-05-2021, 02:58 AM
Why Parmy, what are you planning?
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