Family marks 18th birthday of missing madeleine mccann

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Madeleine or "Maddy", as she is known in Britain, vanished from her family's
apartment in the Algarve holiday resort of Praia da Luz in 2007.

The parents of missing British girl Madeleine McCann are marking the 18th
birthday of their daughter on Wednesday, just over 14 years since she
disappeared on holiday in Portugal.

The disappearance, just days before her fourth birthday, sparked a massive
search effort -- though no trace of her has ever been found -- and an
international media frenzy.

A source close to the family told AFP the McCanns were very private people
and would only comment if there was a fundamental development in
Madeleine's case.

German investigators have identified a convicted sex offender, named in the
press as "Christian B.", as a prime suspect in the case.

London's Metropolitan Police continue to treat Madeleine's disappearance as a
missing person inquiry and said investigations were ongoing.

:fc:

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https://ewn.co.za/2021/05/12/family-marks-18th-birthday-of-missing-madeleine-mccann

[Cherie]

18? no way :eek:

[Niamh.]

18? no way :eek:

I remember Luke was the same age as her when she disappeared (although there's a year between them now because he'd only just turned 3 and she was about to turn 4)

[Cherie]

I remember Luke was the same age as her when she disappeared (although there's a year between them now because he'd only just turned 3 and she was about to turn 4)

incredible!

[GoldHeart]

Oh my goodness , 18 years old she would have been :shocked: . Poor Madeline.

I remember reading a comment on YouTube a while ago, that said "I hope this case gets solved before I die" . So many people want closure, it's so grim and puzzling how this continues to be an 'ongoing investigation' .

[Crimson Dynamo]

I remember Luke was the same age as her when she disappeared (although there's a year between them now because he'd only just turned 3 and she was about to turn 4)

Smallest boy LT was not even 1

now he is 6 foot 1 :shocked:

[Niamh.]

Oh my goodness , 18 years old she would have been :shocked: . Poor Madeline.

I remember reading a comment on YouTube a while ago, that said "I hope this case gets solved before I die" . So many people want closure, it's so grim and puzzling how this continues to be an 'ongoing investigation' .

Yeah I think that ship has sailed now unfortunately

[Niamh.]

incredible!

I think that's probably why I was so horrified to hear that they'd left her and her younger siblings alone because I had a child the same age and he would have been terrified if he'd woken up in the night and no one was there

[Glenn.]

Heartbreaking.

And disgusting that the neglectful parents were never prosecuted

[GoldHeart]

Heartbreaking.

And disgusting that the neglectful parents were never prosecuted

Their behaviour is soo weird & suspicious . I'll never understand why they left their children alone like that

[rusticgal]

Their behaviour is soo weird & suspicious . I'll never understand why they left their children alone like that



Its not weird or suspicious...its was just neglectful. Their friends were equally neglectful because they left their children alone too which is why they took it in turns to check on them.

[UserSince2005]

Happy Birthday to You,
Happy Birthday to You,
Happy Birthday Dear Maddie,
Happy Birthday to You.

[GoldHeart]

Obviously it's neglectful that's a no brainer,but what I'm saying is everything about the McCann's and their actions IS NOT normal, and I've always suspected foul play.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Obviously it's neglectful that's a no brainer,but what I'm saying is everything about the McCann's and their actions IS NOT normal, and I've always suspected foul play.

Thankfully actual trainef Scotland Yard detectives who had all the available evidence don't agree with you

[Glenn.]

LT actually believing that leaving your children alone in an apartment in a foreign country is the right thing to do :skull:

[hijaxers]

Obviously it's neglectful that's a no brainer,but what I'm saying is everything about the McCann's and their actions IS NOT normal, and I've always suspected foul play.

Foul play Yes but not by the McCanns

[rusticgal]

Obviously it's neglectful that's a no brainer,but what I'm saying is everything about the McCann's and their actions IS NOT normal, and I've always suspected foul play.


So what wasnt Normal??...apart from the negligence.

[rusticgal]

LT actually believing that leaving your children alone in an apartment in a foreign country is the right thing to do :skull:



He never said that.

[Liam-]

Hope their quiet meal was worth it

[AnnieK]

He never said that.

He has in the past....apparently "millions" of people do it.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=355291&highlight=millions&page=2

It's crazy that's its been 14 years, like everyone I remember it clearly.

Negligent parenting. I don't feel they did anything else to be honest but I cannot begin to think how they have managed to live with themselves all these years after leaving those babies alone. Its so sad.

[rusticgal]

He has in the past....apparently "millions" of people do it.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=355291&highlight=millions&page=2

It's crazy that's its been 14 years, like everyone I remember it clearly.

Negligent parenting. I don't feel they did anything else to be honest but I cannot begin to think how they have managed to live with themselves all these years after leaving those babies alone. Its so sad.



I would imagine they will regret their decision for the rest of their lives...but they have two other children to consider and no doubt that has given them the will to live. Also...I don’t think they have ever given up hope.

[Beso]

Its many many years, and many years for us all to reflect our feelings over time about this.

My feelings are with the angel in the sky, not the selfish parents who just went to far away from the kids for a meal to be able to use that excuse.

Plus they were doctors, and probably drugged the kids.

[Beso]

Its many many years, and many years for us all to reflect our feelings over time about this.

My feelings are with the angel in the sky, not the selfish parents who just went to far away from the kids for a meal to be able to use that excuse.

Plus they were doctors, and probably drugged the kids.

[Marsh.]

Hope their quiet meal was worth it

.

[GoldHeart]

I honestly don't trust the parents

[Crimson Dynamo]

I honestly don't trust the parents
you dont need to as you don't know them, if you recall that was a point you made a few times in the Meghan Markle threads?

[Marsh.]

Meghan Markle

:joker:

Hello Piers.

[Glenn.]

He never said that.

Erm
The mcCann's behaviour & actions from the beginning have been questionable and very bizarre.

I will never understand how parent's can leave their very young children alone in an apartment while on holiday in a foreign country as they go out for drinks with their friends :facepalm: .

If Madeline WAS kidnapped , the parent's were the ones that made it very easy to happen by abandoning their kids home alone :crazy:. But i don't think we'll ever find out what really happened.

they didnt

[AnnieK]

Its not weird or suspicious...its was just neglectful. Their friends were equally neglectful because they left their children alone too which is why they took it in turns to check on them.

It was pretty weird and suspicious...
1- The way Kate went for a run the following day
2- why wash Cuddle Cat, why wash the scent of your child off their favourite toy?
3- why refuse to answer the police questions during the interview, surely you would want to give as much info as possible to help police
4- why remove a fridge for a holiday apartment because it was broken, particularly when your child is missing??
5 - why continue to leave your children alone after one of them has told you she woke crying the.prvious night because ahe was scared and alone
6- on finding Maddie missing, why run out shouting "she's been taken" and leave the twins alone again. Surely your first instinct would be to protect them?
7 - why circulate a picture of her eye to the media after being told not to
8 - why tell family members the shutters had been smashed when they weren't?

That's just some weird behaviour that I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think they were involved and I know everyone would act differently when something of this magnitude happens to them but, in my opinion, their behaviour was weird and quite suspicious

[joeysteele]

It was pretty weird and suspicious...
1- The way Kate went for a run the following day
2- why wash Cuddle Cat, why wash the scent of your child off their favourite toy?
3- why refuse to answer the police questions during the interview, surely you would want to give as much info as possible to help police
4- why remove a fridge for a holiday apartment because it was broken, particularly when your child is missing??
5 - why continue to leave your children alone after one of them has told you she woke crying the.prvious night because ahe was scared and alone
6- on finding Maddie missing, why run out shouting "she's been taken" and leave the twins alone again. Surely your first instinct would be to protect them?
7 - why circulate a picture of her eye to the media after being told not to
8 - why tell family members the shutters had been smashed when they weren't?

That's just some weird behaviour that I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think they were involved and I know everyone would act differently when something of this magnitude happens to them but, in my opinion, their behaviour was weird and quite suspicious

It's very weird indeed Annie.
I've read that before on here, thanks for reminding us of it.

All of that is extremely weird and worrying.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It was pretty weird and suspicious...
1- The way Kate went for a run the following day
2- why wash Cuddle Cat, why wash the scent of your child off their favourite toy?
3- why refuse to answer the police questions during the interview, surely you would want to give as much info as possible to help police
4- why remove a fridge for a holiday apartment because it was broken, particularly when your child is missing??
5 - why continue to leave your children alone after one of them has told you she woke crying the.prvious night because ahe was scared and alone
6- on finding Maddie missing, why run out shouting "she's been taken" and leave the twins alone again. Surely your first instinct would be to protect them?
7 - why circulate a picture of her eye to the media after being told not to
8 - why tell family members the shutters had been smashed when they weren't?

That's just some weird behaviour that I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think they were involved and I know everyone would act differently when something of this magnitude happens to them but, in my opinion, their behaviour was weird and quite suspicious

yes and senior well trained and experienced police detectives have examined all the evidence (not just social media gossip) and find the mccans have no case to answer.

I know who i would rather believe

[AnnieK]

yes and senior well trained and experienced police detectives have examined all the evidence (not just social media gossip) and find the mccans have no case to answer.

I know who i would rather believe

I haven't said they have a case to answer. I said, if you read my post, IN MY OPINION, this behaviour is weird and suspicious. I even said, I don't think they did anything untoward except for the negligence.

Plus all that information cane from admissions from them....not social media gossip too.

You don't have to defend them all the time. Would you have done all those things if your child was missing?

[GoldHeart]

It was pretty weird and suspicious...
1- The way Kate went for a run the following day
2- why wash Cuddle Cat, why wash the scent of your child off their favourite toy?
3- why refuse to answer the police questions during the interview, surely you would want to give as much info as possible to help police
4- why remove a fridge for a holiday apartment because it was broken, particularly when your child is missing??
5 - why continue to leave your children alone after one of them has told you she woke crying the.prvious night because ahe was scared and alone
6- on finding Maddie missing, why run out shouting "she's been taken" and leave the twins alone again. Surely your first instinct would be to protect them?
7 - why circulate a picture of her eye to the media after being told not to
8 - why tell family members the shutters had been smashed when they weren't?

That's just some weird behaviour that I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think they were involved and I know everyone would act differently when something of this magnitude happens to them but, in my opinion, their behaviour was weird and quite suspicious


Exactly , what kind of parents behave that way.

Also wasn't there something about the car having blood in it ?.

When Gerry has denied any wrongdoing , he's unconvincing.Even going as far as saying "how would I dispose of her" .

Kate had some disturbing quotes in her book about Madeline, describing in detail how she had "awful images of her daughter's perfect private bits being torn apart" . What the hell.

As I keep saying ,if the McCann's were a lower class or unemployed family living on a rough council estate then I think social services would have taken it alot more seriously.

And investigated the child neglect with a fine tooth comb ,and possibly took their other children away from them.

It feels like all responsibility has been brushed off , even when there was suspicion , things were dropped.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This a good brief article explaining some of the reasons people mistakenly believe conspiracy theories about this case


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jun/05/madeleine-mccann-lost-child-new-suspect-british-media

[rusticgal]

It was pretty weird and suspicious...
1- The way Kate went for a run the following day
2- why wash Cuddle Cat, why wash the scent of your child off their favourite toy?
3- why refuse to answer the police questions during the interview, surely you would want to give as much info as possible to help police
4- why remove a fridge for a holiday apartment because it was broken, particularly when your child is missing??
5 - why continue to leave your children alone after one of them has told you she woke crying the.prvious night because ahe was scared and alone
6- on finding Maddie missing, why run out shouting "she's been taken" and leave the twins alone again. Surely your first instinct would be to protect them?
7 - why circulate a picture of her eye to the media after being told not to
8 - why tell family members the shutters had been smashed when they weren't?

That's just some weird behaviour that I can think of off the top of my head. I don't think they were involved and I know everyone would act differently when something of this magnitude happens to them but, in my opinion, their behaviour was weird and quite suspicious


Its funny how everyone thinks they know 'how to behave' when your child goes missing. Everyone reacts differently.

1. Maybe going for a run the next day was her way of clearing her head.
2. washing the toy...maybe a good reason for that that no one knows about.
3. They did assist the police but maybe they didnt like their line of questioning and advised by a lawyer. The Police handled the whole thing poorly.
4. Never heard the fridge thing before but if you are having to stay why would your missing child stop you from replacing a broken fridge?
5. The only behaviour that cannot be defended.
6. She ran out shouting :shrug:....natural reaction.
7. Why not circulate the eye picture...its something that cannot be disguised.
8. No answer to that if its true.

[AnnieK]

Its funny how everyone thinks they know 'how to behave' when your child goes missing. Everyone reacts differently.

1. Maybe going for a run the next day was her way of clearing her head.
2. washing the toy...maybe a good reason for that that no one knows about.
3. They did assist the police but maybe they didnt like their line of questioning and advised by a lawyer. The Police handled the whole thing poorly.
4. Never heard the fridge thing before but if you are having to stay why would your missing child stop you from replacing a broken fridge?
5. The only behaviour that cannot be defended.
6. She ran out shouting :shrug:....natural reaction.
7. Why not circulate the eye picture...its something that cannot be disguised.
8. No answer to that if its true.

You're staying in a managed apartment and you would put a broken fridge in the car and take it away when the apartment owner would do that?

They were told not to circulate the eye picture as its a fairly rare defect in the eye and this could cause would be kidnappers to kill her rather than keep her alive as it made her easily recognisable. But they still shared it.

Running out shouting someone has taken your child whilst leaving the others unattended AGAIN would not be my natural reaction. My reaction would have been to get them away from any danger whilst shouting

Have you seen the questions she refused to answer? Chuff posted them once, they were not leading questions or anything other than questions designed to get basic facts. If you have nothing to hide, I can't see the reason for a no comment interview.

Anyway, you have your opinion and I have mine. Its been a long time and this story, like many others is one very few people will change their opinion on, no matter what anyone else says :laugh:

[Niamh.]

You're staying in a managed apartment and you would put a broken fridge in the car and take it away when the apartment owner would do that?

They were told not to circulate the eye picture as its a fairly rare defect in the eye and this could cause would be kidnappers to kill her rather than keep her alive as it made her easily recognisable. But they still shared it.

Running out shouting someone has taken your child whilst leaving the others unattended AGAIN would not be my natural reaction. My reaction would have been to get them away from any danger whilst shouting

Have you seen the questions she refused to answer? Chuff posted them once, they were not leading questions or anything other than questions designed to get basic facts. If you have nothing to hide, I can't see the reason for a no comment interview.

Anyway, you have your opinion and I have mine. Its been a long time and this story, like many others is one very few people will change their opinion on, no matter what anyone else says :laugh:

They also refused to do a reenactment of the night before which can help a lot in getting time frames and retracing footsteps more accurate.

Also regarding running out and shouting "they've taken her" is such an odd first thought to have. The patio door had been left unlocked, I don't know about anyone else but my first thought would be that she'd woken up, couldn't find them so went looking for them, I'd be worried she'd walked into the road or fell in the pool

[Marsh.]

maybe a good reason for that that no one knows about.

Convenient. :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

They also refused to do a reenactment of the night before which can help a lot in getting time frames and retracing footsteps more accurate.

Also regarding running out and shouting "they've taken her" is such an odd first thought to have. The patio door had been left unlocked, I don't know about anyone else but my first thought would be that she'd woken up, couldn't find them so went looking for them, I'd be worried she'd walked into the road or fell in the pool

Do you get that it looks suspect to you but to the actual detectives working on the case full time and with all the evidence and interviewing all the people involved...

They do not agree with you?

[bots]

Do you get that it looks suspect to you but to the actual detectives working on the case full time and with all the evidence and interviewing all the people involved...

They do not agree with you?

do you accept that there was political interference at the highest level to protect the parents, that would never normally happen in such a case?

[Crimson Dynamo]

do you accept that there was political interference at the highest level to protect the parents, that would never normally happen in such a case?

what Cameron helping them as a young father hinself?

[bots]

what Cameron helping them as a young father hinself?

Blair and Brown as you are well aware

[Crimson Dynamo]

Blair and Brown as you are well aware

Helping them find their child who was abducted is bad?

[Jordan.]

We can only hope she had a fab 18th. Luckily she will have long forgotten the neglectful parents.

[AnnieK]

Do you get that it looks suspect to you but to the actual detectives working on the case full time and with all the evidence and interviewing all the people involved...

They do not agree with you?

Just because no criminal charges were ever brought, doesn't change the fact that at best, their behaviour was woefully negligent and as a discussion forum we are allowed to share those opinions without you trying to shut them down because the police didn't bring charges.. I asked before, but would you have left you children under the age of 4 alone whilst you went out? I can hand on heart say, I never would. I still wouldn't and he's nearly 11.

[Niamh.]

Do you get that it looks suspect to you but to the actual detectives working on the case full time and with all the evidence and interviewing all the people involved...



They do not agree with you?The Portuguese police that it was suspicious too

[Marsh.]

Insufficient evidence to pursue conviction is not proof of innocence.

I don't know whether they did or did not have something to do with what happened to Maddie (aside from neglecting her) but their actions both before and after her disappearance were weird and suspicious.

[GoldHeart]

Just because no criminal charges were ever brought, doesn't change the fact that at best, their behaviour was woefully negligent and as a discussion forum we are allowed to share those opinions without you trying to shut them down because the police didn't bring charges.. I asked before, but would you have left you children under the age of 4 alone whilst you went out? I can hand on heart say, I never would. I still wouldn't and he's nearly 11.

What makes it worse is all their children were left alone, babies soo very young. At those ages they need supervision 24/7. I'm baffled how they could ever think that was a good idea.

[Liam-]

What gets me is that if it was a couple from a council estate leaving their kids alone so they could go on nights out and something like this happened, they would without a doubt have the other kids taken away because of the severe negligence, I’m not quite sure why people are to this day, still pretending like the pair of them are good parents?

[Crimson Dynamo]

What gets me is that if it was a couple from a council estate leaving their kids alone so they could go on nights out and something like this happened, they would without a doubt have the other kids taken away because of the severe negligence, I’m not quite sure why people are to this day, still pretending like the pair of them are good parents?

what actual evidence are you basing that on?

[GoldHeart]

What gets me is that if it was a couple from a council estate leaving their kids alone so they could go on nights out and something like this happened, they would without a doubt have the other kids taken away because of the severe negligence, I’m not quite sure why people are to this day, still pretending like the pair of them are good parents?

Like I said if they were not white middle class ,I'm pretty sure they would have been in serious hot water with the negligence. I don't understand how people can defend them.

[Marsh.]

what actual evidence are you basing that on?

You want evidence of parents having their kids taken away for neglecting them?

[LaLaLand]

Awful. Remember everyone talking about her the day after she vanished when I was in Sixth Form. Seems like only a few years ago. Time flies.

[Elliot]

What gets me is that if it was a couple from a council estate leaving their kids alone so they could go on nights out and something like this happened, they would without a doubt have the other kids taken away because of the severe negligence, I’m not quite sure why people are to this day, still pretending like the pair of them are good parents?

Like, even if they didn’t directly kill her, which there are a lot of people including myself that are suspicious they did, they still indirectly killed her due to negligence and if they didn’t have the connections/white privilege they would’ve saw consequences instead of all of this sympathy, platform, resources and money.

[Elliot]

Wasnt there an Irish couple that claimed to see a guy carrying a girl that looked like Maddie at the time of her disappearance at the hotel then later claimed that the man they saw was Gerry?

[rusticgal]

I’m not quite sure why people are to this day, still pretending like the pair of them are good parents?



I have yet to see anyone call them or see them as good parents...

[GoldHeart]

I have yet to see anyone call them or see them as good parents...

But excuses are still being made for them, despite the McCann's behaviour being suspicious and worrying.

[bots]

i think LT is in love with Kate, which is why we always get these threads from him from time to time

[Niamh.]

Wasnt there an Irish couple that claimed to see a guy carrying a girl that looked like Maddie at the time of her disappearance at the hotel then later claimed that the man they saw was Gerry?

Yep, they had a drawing made up of him down to the trousers that matched a pair Gerry had with buttons down the sides and then later when they saw Gerry on TV called the Police and said it was definitely Gerry they saw that night

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i2-prod.dailypost.co.uk/incoming/article18359843.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200b/0_Missing-Madeleine-McCann.jpg

[Liam-]

Sorry, but Kate has always loved the attention she’s gotten from this

[rusticgal]

But excuses are still being made for them, despite the McCann's behaviour being suspicious and worrying.


Its not excuses though...just because one person sees their behaviour as 'suspicious' doesnt mean everyone does. There could be a perfectly good reason why they did things the way they did.
At the end of the day the decision they made cost them their daughters life and will haunt them for the remainder of theirs.

[rusticgal]

Sorry, but Kate has always loved the attention she’s gotten from this


I disagree. She was hated for leaving her children unattended... Most people would just want to curl up and die. Keeping themselves in the public eye kept the momentum going.

[Cherie]

I don’t think they did it, they were negligent though, I remember when our first son was born taking him to a hotel. We left him sleeping, went downstairs with the baby monitor to the bar, after 10 minutes neither of us could settle and were convinced the monitor wasn’t working, so Mr C went back up and made noise, it was, but it just didn’t feel right so that was that, back upstairs :laugh: No way could I have gone for a full meal with an open door and a swimming pool in between where the kids were sleeping and we were

[Niamh.]

I don’t think they did it, they were negligent though, I remember when our first son was born taking him to a hotel. We left him sleeping, went downstairs with the baby monitor to the bar, after 10 minutes neither of us could settle and were convinced the monitor wasn’t working, so Mr C went back up and made noise, it was, but it just didn’t feel right so that was that, back upstairs :laugh: No way could I have gone for a full meal with an open door and a swimming pool in between where the kids were sleeping and we were

Yeah the Pool would have always been my first fear in that situation(and I would have thought in most other parents too) which was why i thought it was odd that her first thought was that someone (actually more than one person because she said "they" ) had kidnapped her