Tony Blair unleashes stinging attack on ‘WOKE LEFT’

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tony Blair unleashes stinging attack on ‘woke left’ and says Labour could cease
to exist

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“Keir seems sensible but not radical. He lacks a compelling economic
message. And the cultural message, because he is not clarifying it, is being
defined by the ‘woke’ left, whose every statement gets cut-through courtesy
of the right.”

Sir Keir is “struggling to break through with the public, and last week’s
elections are a major setback”, continued Mr Blair, with Labour now “asking
whether Keir is the right leader”.

But the ex-PM, now running the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change which
has been at the forefront of the battle against Covid-19, warned that Labour
“won’t revive simply by a change of leader”.

“A progressive party seeking power which looks askance at the likes of Trevor
Phillips, Sara Khan, or JK Rowling, is not going to win,” he warned.

“People are suspicious that behind the agenda of many of the culture
warriors on the left lies an ideology they find alien and extreme.”


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair-attacks-woke-left-labour-cease-exist-b934635.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think Tony is on to something

[bots]

of course he is, and everyone in the country that didn't vote labour knows it. Unfortunately, it still remains Boris's fault

[UserSince2005]

Trial this war criminal. disgusted he has the nerve to show his face in public, nevermind on national tv.

[caprimint]

Always liked him

[Liam-]

Labour right will never take responsibility for its own failings will it? He’s a cockroach

[GoldHeart]

Does Blair not realise he's now only remembered,due to his thoughtless decision with Iraq and war :rolleyes:.

People unfortunately forget anything good he did prior. And some actually stopped supporting Labour.

[Tom4784]

I don't care for the words of someone with so much bloodshed on their hands. Claiming offense over the left when he sent our troops to die for a pointless war that destabilised the east and led to thousands of civilian deaths... He's a ****ing scrote.

People who like to be told what they want to hear will be easily pleased by his empty words, no doubt.

[joeysteele]

When people from the right, and likely Con supporters start praising Blair, (the more closet Con), then any Labour supporter seeing that should take note.
He brought the stupid NEW tag to Labour.
He in the main squandered 2 massive overall majorities.
Where he could have ensured fullest protection of the NHS, could have put in place absolute unchanging protection of the most vulnerable, sick and disabled.
Instead of tinkering with the issue.

He did of course do many things welcome and appropriate as all governments do.
Some more than others.
However, he didn't secure any protections for those vulnerable groups.

He once tried to get away with giving pensioners an only 50p rise.
Until he was shamed to do far better.

Then he foolishly believed a NEW war from his NEW Labour government would set his place in history.
Oh boy, it did indeed, not how he thought it would however.

He can talk sense of course.
However he's criticised every Labour leader since him, including Gordon Brown.

As a Labour member, I don't think I want any nauseating lectures from Mr Blair.

His time in government, I'd put down to 2 periods of the biggest wasting of massive overall majorities ever.
2 overall majorities of 165+

Yet he did so little to protect those who needed protection the most.

[arista]

Yes GMBHD itv final day with his mate Alistair Campbell
Blair went into the Studio in London.


And Yes Joey
Blair was Neo Conservative.
King of New Labour.

[arista]

Does Blair not realise he's now only remembered,due to his thoughtless decision with Iraq and war :rolleyes:.

People unfortunately forget anything good he did prior. And some actually stopped supporting Labour.



He is fully Aware
but then moves on to sort out Starmer.

[arista]

Trial this war criminal. disgusted he has the nerve to show his face in public, nevermind on national tv.


No
He got away with it


He goes to the Middle East
never killed.

[Toy Soldier]

Like it or not, he isn't entirely wrong and refusing to acknowledge that is going to see Conservative governments in England in perpetuity, which tbqfh is the worst imaginable outcome.

[UserSince2005]

the unelected sherk pm was on the news this week also. Why are we giving this scum airtime?

[Scarlett.]

A war criminal doesn't like people holding others accountable.

What a twist.

[bots]

Like it or not, he isn't entirely wrong and refusing to acknowledge that is going to see Conservative governments in England in perpetuity, which tbqfh is the worst imaginable outcome.

Tony Blair was the last labour leader to win an election, i think he knows a thing or two about it. I'm staggered that people are burying their heads in the sand

[Toy Soldier]

Tony Blair was the last labour leader to win an election, i think he knows a thing or two about it. I'm staggered that people are burying their heads in the sand

I understand why many people would like a further-left party, but I'm also not optimistic enough to believe that one can actually win... so unless the UK wants repeated uncaring Tory governments for the next half century, something has to give. And like it or not the only "better option" that has a chance of winning, is a still-largely-centrist party that isn't looking to make sweeping cultural changes but has better and fairer social policies and proper support for public services.

[Scarlett.]

The problem with Labour is that they're just constantly infighting, each leader gets slagged off by some others and loses credibility, they're a shambles of a party.

[Tom4784]

Like it or not, he isn't entirely wrong and refusing to acknowledge that is going to see Conservative governments in England in perpetuity, which tbqfh is the worst imaginable outcome.

Nothing will stop the tories now anyway. It's all rather hopeless.

[arista]

Nothing will stop the tories now anyway. It's all rather hopeless.


It can not be that simple.

[GoldHeart]

Nothing will stop the tories now anyway. It's all rather hopeless.

Yep pretty much Labour is DEAD unfortunately , they might aswell call it a day , they're as pointless as Lib Dem .

[arista]

Labour is DEAD unfortunately , they might aswell call it a day , they're as pointless as Lib Dem .


They got some Mayors.
Lost to many Councils,
this time round.

[Tom4784]

It can not be that simple.

Honestly, the only chance of a sea change is through the passing of time and the end of the older generations. We can hope the next generations will be better, but I don't have much capacity for hope these days, in political matters.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yep pretty much Labour is DEAD unfortunately , they might aswell call it a day , they're as pointless as Lib Dem .

I just have no idea why that party exists?

[Scarlett.]

The problems with Labour run far too deep, sure they could find a great popular PM with someone like Andy Burnham, but the problem would be the rest of the party is still fractured and rotten.

The Tories are of course, rotten to the core too, but they at least keep up appearances that everything is okay behind the scenes - until a leader leaves, then its knives out

[arista]

Honestly, the only chance of a sea change is through the passing of time and the end of the older generations. We can hope the next generations will be better, but I don't have much capacity for hope these days, in political matters.



Yes Olders Changing their Votes.

[joeysteele]

I don't think Labour is dead at all.
I wouldn't be in it if I thought that.

I'll do all I can as a member to ensure despite our wide differences as members we keep this grand coalition together.

Or we are doomed to only be the opposition of the UK, for as long as the UK still exists that is.

I concede, it is always the case that the Cons are the natural party of government.
Unfortunately.

There's a long way to go before writing off the Party.
To be a broken record, there is a way, in my view to unite the majority of the party.
Plus also have the full backing of every other UK party except for the Cons.
That is moves are made to have the Party conference adopt electoral reform and bring in PR.
No referenda, just bring it in the election after the next.

It can be done, and while it will remove any likelihood of Labour governing alone with a majority after 2028/29.
It will also ensure never again can the Cons govern with overall majorities on only 42% of the votes cast.

It will then be for Labour to forge alliances with Parties more to the left of centre.
Governing with full cooperation of Parliament and majority support of the people.

The Cons and they're supporters would be near in frenzied panic.

[GoldHeart]

The problems with Labour run far too deep, sure they could find a great popular PM with someone like Andy Burnham, but the problem would be the rest of the party is still fractured and rotten.

The Tories are of course, rotten to the core too, but they at least keep up appearances that everything is okay behind the scenes - until a leader leaves, then its knives out


Tories don't fool me , Boris is about as useful as a chocolate teapot. He's a bumbling idiot.

[Tom4784]

Yes Olders Changing their Votes.

I don't think that will ever happen, for the most part. There's a lot of people willing to vote on the issues, but too many simply vote out of party loyalty. The only chance of change would be with the natural passing of the older generations, and rise of the younger ones.

[Scarlett.]

Tories don't fool me , Boris is about as useful as a chocolate teapot. He's a bumbling idiot.

Yep, they're a worse party than Labour behind the scenes, they're just masters of spin, and PR, unlike Labour

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tories don't fool me , Boris is about as useful as a chocolate teapot. He's a bumbling idiot.

I know it makes people feel better to say that but he is the PM and just had an amazing set of election results

to ignore that and just say he is rubbish is pretty futile and its part of the problem the left have right now

[Scarlett.]

I know it makes people feel better to say that but he is the PM and just had an amazing set of election results

to ignore that and just say he is rubbish is pretty futile and its part of the problem the left have right now

Tony Blair had three general elections worth of amazing results, did that make him a great PM?

The problem isn't with the left, it's that Labour is an ailing party that has forgotten who they stand for.

[Marsh.]

I know it makes people feel better to say that but he is the PM and just had an amazing set of election results

to ignore that and just say he is rubbish is pretty futile and its part of the problem the left have right now

He is rubbish. Saying "Oh the election results" just makes it look worse, not better.

[arista]

I don't think that will ever happen, for the most part. There's a lot of people willing to vote on the issues, but too many simply vote out of party loyalty. The only chance of change would be with the natural passing of the older generations, and rise of the younger ones.


Could take 20 years

[GoldHeart]

We just need to remind ourselves of how Boris handled the Covid outbreak, to see just what a complete waste of space he is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He is rubbish. Saying "Oh the election results" just makes it look worse, not better.

What he has a rubbish career? no

He has a rubbish job - no

He is rubbish at his job - judge him at the ballot-box

That may be your opinion but for the majority in your country they simply disagree with you and have done for many, many years

[bots]

the only reason the tories are in power is because there is no viable alternative. We need an electable alternative, in any form now quite frankly.

At some point labour will have to come to terms with the reality that they just represent too many disparate views. It has to have cohesive policies that everyone in the party can get behind and that are both realistic and attractive to the voter

[Tom4784]

Winning an election doesn't make someone a good PM, it just means they fooled enough people into voting for them. Tony Blair, David Cameron, Theresa May, Boris. All were terrible and they all won at least one election. I do have some sympathy for May though, since it's clear she was just there to take the scorn of the public for the deal they'd come up with just so Boris could swoop in with a similar deal at the last minute and be treated like a hero for it.

Boris has been a terrible PM, people's hero worship of him is misplaced and concerning.

[Marsh.]

What he has a rubbish career? no

He has a rubbish job - no

He is rubbish at his job - judge him at the ballot-box

That may be your opinion but for the majority in your country they simply disagree with you and have done for many, many years

Again, illustrating how the vast majority of people can't see the wood for the trees is not making it look better.

I don't give a tinkers toss who disagrees.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Again, illustrating how the vast majority of people can't see the wood for the trees is not making it look better.

I don't give a tinkers toss who disagrees.

Yes but you may as well say that Queen are a rubbish group because you dont like them even though most people think they are great by that logic

[Marsh.]

Yes but you may as well say that Queen are a rubbish group because you dont like them even though most people think they are great by that logic

"Boris has lots of followers so dat means very good and great and your opinion on him is wrong"

No love.

[bots]

the point being that if the majority of the country thought queen were crap, they wouldnt have been successful. I never liked queen, but i was always in the minority.

[Marsh.]

the point being that if the majority of the country thought queen were crap, they wouldnt have been successful. I never liked queen, but i was always in the minority.

No, the point is that the opinion of that majority had no bearing on your opinion of Queen. Nor do the Con voters have any bearing on mine. :shrug:

The idea that "crap" can't be popular is false.

History is littered with crap leaders voted in by a blind public.

[Tom4784]

We just need to remind ourselves of how Boris handled the Covid outbreak, to see just what a complete waste of space he is.

'But he did his best!' Bootlickers all around the UK.

It doesn't matter what he does, tory supporters will line up for a chance to suck on his ring.