BBC promoting : gangland 'drill' track is at Number One

[arista]

[Soundtrack to murder: For the first time,
a gangland 'drill' track is at
Number One - spreading a message of hatred
and violent revenge being echoed in
playgrounds across the country.
So why IS the BBC promoting it?]


[Stab first then talk...On flight-mode when
we walk...Chest or back we’ll rip his
face offI’ll put holes in your back.’
The lyrics are brutal and the
music is ‘drill’ — a raw and aggressive form
of British rap with accompanying videos
that feature balaclava-wearing men waving
weapons and detailing the bloody reality
of life on the streets.

For Sharon Kendall, the words of the
song Dip First (‘dip’ being slang for ‘stab’),
by a drill rapper associated with
a gang in the Rayners Lane
area of North-West London,
the lyrics were heart-wrenchingly
close to home.
Her 18-year-old son Jason Isaacs
was killed near Rayners Lane by
teenagers who stabbed him
in the back, arms and legs.]


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/05/16/21/43060735-9585461-In_Body_Russ_Millions_pictured_above_and_Tion_Wayn e_rap_Free_Big-m-11_1621198342828.jpg
[In Body, Russ Millions (pictured above)
and Tion Wayne rap: ‘Free Big A,
he’s too militant’ — which online followers
of the singers have interpreted to be a
reference to a gang member currently
in prison on firearm offences]


Life In The City.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9585461/Soundtrack-murder-time-gangland-drill-track-Number-One.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

yet they blank out words in OLivers Army

this "song" should be banned

[The Slim Reaper]

More woke cancel culture. :blush:

[Crimson Dynamo]

More woke cancel culture. :blush:

the stabbings to death of teenagers in LOndon is hardly a laughing matter

jesus

:umm2:

[The Slim Reaper]

the stabbings to death of teenagers in LOndon is hardly a laughing matter

jesus

:umm2:

If we were having a good old belly laugh about knife crime you'd have a point, but we aren't and you don't.

:umm2:

[Oliver_W]

It's not the first time a terrible "song" got promoted beyond its value.

[Cherie]

It's not the first time a terrible "song" got promoted beyond its value.

There are terrible songs and they there are songs that promote violence

this is an example of WOKE culture, this song should be banned, it is an offence to all the families who have had loved ones stabbed in London and elsewhere, the BBC has lost its way on these issues and can't see the wood for the trees at this stage

[The Slim Reaper]

There are terrible songs and they there are songs that promote violence

this is an example of WOKE culture, this song should be banned, it is an offence to all the families who have had loved ones stabbed in London and elsewhere, the BBC has lost its way on these issues and can't see the wood for the trees at this stage

So banning and not banning things are both woke culture? Do you spot the potential flaw in that argument?

[Cherie]

So banning and not banning tings are both woke culture? Do you spot the potential flaw in that argument?

The BBC have always banned offensive songs. They don't play the original version of Fairytale of New York any more, what's changed for them?

do you see the problem there? one rule for one...etc

[Liam-]

So banning and not banning tings are both woke culture? Do you spot the potential flaw in that argument?

It’s almost like the war on ‘woke’ doesn’t actually make any sense isn’t it?

[bots]

It's interesting that the BBC promote this, yet only at the weekend postponed the panorama investigation into Bashir indefinitely over a "duty of care". The BBC has truly gone to rat****

[Cherie]

It’s almost like the war on ‘woke’ doesn’t actually make any sense isn’t it?

you can answer my question as well if you will

[The Slim Reaper]

The BBC have always banned offensive songs. They don't play Fairytale of New York any more, what's changed for them?

do you see the problem there? one rule for one...etc

I'd guess Fairy tale has been banned for containing an actual slur, although why they couldn't just mute it for a second is beyond my comprehension - but I don't know the full details.

So unless this song contains slurs then why would they ban it? No one bans movies for glorifying gangs and crime etc.

You can't have woke culture as just a way to criticise things you disagree with.

[Cherie]

I'd guess Fairy tale has been banned for containing an actual slur, although why they couldn't just mute it for a second is beyond my comprehension - but I don't know the full details.

So unless this song contains slurs then why would they ban it? No one bans movies for glorifying gangs and crime etc.

Movies have ratings for a reason.

Unless this song is only played after 9pm, is that what you are saying?

[Cherie]

I'd guess Fairy tale has been banned for containing an actual slur, although why they couldn't just mute it for a second is beyond my comprehension - but I don't know the full details.

So unless this song contains slurs then why would they ban it? No one bans movies for glorifying gangs and crime etc.

You can't have woke culture as just a way to criticise things you disagree with.

I can think what I like actually

[The Slim Reaper]

[/B]

I can think what I like actually

And I didn't say you don't have a right to think, I was just suggesting that maybe you use that ability to work out the inconsistencies.

[The Slim Reaper]

Movies have ratings for a reason.

Unless this song is only played after 9pm, is that what you are saying?

Turn on the radio and you'll hear songs about all kinds of things that we wouldn't be allowed to see in films during the day time, and all before 9pm.

[Tom4784]

So Woke is basically Schrodinger's cat at this point.

The song sounds gross but the idea of violent content inspiring violence is so dumb and has been disproven time and time again. Violent games, films and TV shows do not encourage violence, why do we think music could?

[Oliver_W]

I do sometimes wonder if Mary Whitehouse is actually alive and well when the pearl-clutching about films/games/songs are going to lead to violence :laugh:

Anyone hearing this "song" is going to say "this is dreadful!" and they'll switch it off, not "wtf i'ma shank a bitch now"

[Oliver_W]

If he'd have made a youtube video actually saying to do those things it'd be different, but this is just artistic expression.

(I can't wrap enough airquotes around both "artistic" and "impression")

[Swan]

What makes this different from celebrated US rap music? They're always mentioning guns and shooting 'enemies' (well they used to, i don't know much about modern rap).

Drill music doesn't appeal to me in the slightest, give me 90's hip hop any day, but banning a song wont solve the knife crime amongst black teenage boys.

The BBC are a joke though, for many reasons.

[Brother Leon]

The lyrics are no more extreme than what some punk or hard rock lyrics would be. Can’t let some young black men shine and get out of their neighbourhoods and make a living though can we?

[Liam-]

When women stage a coup to take over the world and enslave the worlds male population, we can all remember this thread and blame Beyoncé

[Crimson Dynamo]

The lyrics are no more extreme than what some punk or hard rock lyrics would be. Can’t let some young black men shine and get out of their neighbourhoods and make a living though can we?

which ones specifically promote stabbing black kids to death in a city that has an epidemic of black stabbing deaths?

[arista]

which ones specifically promote stabbing black kids to death in a city that has an epidemic of black stabbing deaths?



Yes No Punk songs did that.

BL is wrong

[Cherie]

Maybe his next song could glorify drink driving, let the BBC promote that

[Jordan.]

Ah you can always count on rap music to have the right wing revert back to their old PC ways.

[bots]

you can always guarantee that the left wing support and promote the most ludicrous things

[Crimson Dynamo]

you can always guarantee that the left wing support and promote the most ludicrous things

amen

[Oliver_W]

Ah you can always count on rap music to have the right wing revert back to their old PC ways.

I look to a day when songs will not be judged by their genre, but by the content of their lyrics.

It's nothing to do with it being rap "music".

[Jordan.]

I look to a day when songs will not be judged by their genre, but by the content of their lyrics.

It's nothing to do with it being rap "music".

Thanks for your input that's enough cringe for today

[Oliver_W]

Thanks for your input that's enough cringe for today
No less cringey than pretending to think the only thing to dislike about the "song" is that it's rap :shrug:

[Tom4784]

Ah you can always count on rap music to have the right wing revert back to their old PC ways.

Pretty much, the 'PC gone mad' crowd certainly change their tune when it suits them.

you can always guarantee that the left wing support and promote the most ludicrous things

Bless, that was an attempt at... Something?

[Oliver_W]

change their tune

I see what you did there :dance:

[Beso]

[Soundtrack to murder: For the first time,
a gangland 'drill' track is at
Number One - spreading a message of hatred
and violent revenge being echoed in
playgrounds across the country.
So why IS the BBC promoting it?]


[Stab first then talk...On flight-mode when
we walk...Chest or back we’ll rip his
face offI’ll put holes in your back.’
The lyrics are brutal and the
music is ‘drill’ — a raw and aggressive form
of British rap with accompanying videos
that feature balaclava-wearing men waving
weapons and detailing the bloody reality
of life on the streets.

For Sharon Kendall, the words of the
song Dip First (‘dip’ being slang for ‘stab’),
by a drill rapper associated with
a gang in the Rayners Lane
area of North-West London,
the lyrics were heart-wrenchingly
close to home.
Her 18-year-old son Jason Isaacs
was killed near Rayners Lane by
teenagers who stabbed him
in the back, arms and legs.]


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/05/16/21/43060735-9585461-In_Body_Russ_Millions_pictured_above_and_Tion_Wayn e_rap_Free_Big-m-11_1621198342828.jpg
[In Body, Russ Millions (pictured above)
and Tion Wayne rap: ‘Free Big A,
he’s too militant’ — which online followers
of the singers have interpreted to be a
reference to a gang member currently
in prison on firearm offences]


Life In The City.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9585461/Soundtrack-murder-time-gangland-drill-track-Number-One.html




Meanwhile, one of Radio 1’s best known former DJs, Tim Westwood, has posed in photographs with drill artists and gang members (one of whom, Sidique Kamara, 23, was later stabbed to death).

Westwood himself is the son of a bishop and went to private school, but has been known to speak in a pseudo-Jamaican ‘street’ patois. He is said to have partly inspired Sacha Baron’s Cohen spoof character Ali G

:joker::joker:

[Brother Leon]

By the way, Body is hook of the year. It’s no surprise it blew up with the kids on Tik Tok and went #1.

[Oliver_W]

Westwood himself is the son of a bishop and went to private school, but has been known to speak in a pseudo-Jamaican ‘street’ patois. He is said to have partly inspired Sacha Baron’s Cohen spoof character Ali G

:joker::joker:
Nothing wrong with adopting a "persona" for one's public image :shrug:

[Beso]

Nothing wrong with adopting a "persona" for one's public image :shrug:

And there is nothing wrong with laughing at it.:shrug:

[Kizzy]

There's always been controversial music what do gangster rappers sing about? Being gangsters and pimps, guns and hos ... this is no different.

Mind you the softy lefty in me does think these can resonate in poor areas and the disaffected yoof.. so obviously I hate it

[Crimson Dynamo]

There's always been controversial music what do gangster rappers sing about? Being gangsters and pimps, guns and hos ... this is no different.

Mind you the softy lefty in me does think these can resonate in poor areas and the disaffected yoof.. so obviously I hate it

yes and its always led to black mothers losing sons

:skull:

its nothing to celebrate

its youth ignorance and poor education

[Kizzy]

yes and its always led to black mothers losing sons

:skull:

its nothing to celebrate

its youth ignorance and poor education

Mothers of all races losing son's and daughters.