BLM militant Sasha Johnson shot in the head

[UserSince2005]

From the videos I’ve seen of her she is an real evil racist nasty piece of work.
But no one deserves to be assassinated.
Hope she makes it through.

[DouglasS]

Damn those comments in the article wishing her to recover are the most disliked..

I hope she recovers - don’t agree with free speech being censored / violence because of it

[UserSince2005]

Damn those comments in the article wishing her to recover are the most disliked..

I hope she recovers - don’t agree with free speech being censored / violence because of it

I know, people are saying the police shouldn’t investigate because she hates the police

[UserSince2005]

Confirmed on bbc news now

[Crimson Dynamo]

Could be some turf war thing as it seems always to be in London, tragic

[UserSince2005]

Could be some turf war thing as it seems always to be in London, tragic

Could be. But she’s notorious for the statements she makes. Like Saying white men need to be slaves. Seems she been targeted

[Cherie]

According to Sky she cut ties with BLM in recent months?

Sasha is also a mother of three and a strong, powerful voice for our people and our community.
"Let's all come together and pray for Sasha, pray for her recovery and show our support to her family and loved ones."
She was reported to have cut ties with the Black Lives Matter movement in recent months.
Detectives from the Met's Specialist Crime Command (Trident) are leading the investigation. No arrests have been made

Sky News.com


Hope she recovers, happened at 3am so in her home?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Could be. But she’s notorious for the statements she makes. Like Saying white men need to be slaves. Seems she been targeted

Play with fire..

[thesheriff443]

She was found in the street near to were a house party was taking place, police have said they have no evidence it was a targeted attack.

[arista]

https://news.sky.com/story/black-equal-rights-activist-in-critical-condition-in-hospital-after-being-shot-in-the-head-12315288

[A black equal rights activist is in a critical condition
in hospital after being shot in the head
in south London yesterday.
Police are appealing for information after
Sasha Johnson, 27,
was found with life-threatening injuries
in Southwark at about 3am on Sunday morning.]

[Ammi]

…’there is nothing to suggest that the woman who was shot was the subject of a targeted attack or that she had received any credible threats against her prior to this incident’…but ‘she had received numerous death threats’….



…that’s quite contradictory…and then she is killed…it’s shocking and awful, her poor family…I don’t understand death threats for someone who advocated equal rights, that’s bizarre….I hope that she recovers and I hope that there is accountability for her and her family…

[Oliver_W]

…’there is nothing to suggest that the woman who was shot was the subject of a targeted attack or that she had received any credible threats against her prior to this incident’…but ‘she had received numerous death threats’….



…that’s quite contradictory…

Any credible threats. Pretty much any vocal public figure will get tweets saying "ima kill u bitch" and while it's technically a death threat, it's not exactly credible.

[bots]

i'm not sure how someone being shot in the head can be discounted from being a targeted attack so quickly unless it was an accident?

[Ammi]

i'm not sure how someone being shot in the head can be discounted from being a targeted attack so quickly unless it was an accident?

…yeah, it sounds so much like an assassination so if that’s being thought not to be likely, there must surely be very strong reasons for that…

[Oliver_W]

i'm not sure how someone being shot in the head can be discounted from being a targeted attack so quickly unless it was an accident?
Yeah. Despite being in South London, Southwark is pretty okay, as far as I know.

I don't know if she's involved in gang stuff, but I guess that's about as likely as someone targeting her for saying dumb things.
I know, people are saying the police shouldn’t investigate because she hates the police

Disgusting. Even idiots who chant "defund the police" deserve their support.

[arista]

It was a Rival Gang
And she got shot in the middle of it all.

A friend of hers
just spoke Live on BBCnewsHD

[arista]

…yeah, it sounds so much like an assassination so if that’s being thought not to be likely, there must surely be very strong reasons for that…



No, the Lady Friend
just on BBC said
it was Gangs having arguments

[Ammi]

…I’ll wait to see the police official statements and not ‘a lady friend’ on BBC…

[UserSince2005]

Silly bitch if true

[arista]

…I’ll wait to see the police official statements and not ‘a lady friend’ on BBC…



Yes I agree,
but it makes sense
as these gangs are armed.

[Cherie]

Apparently it was a drive by shooting into a group, she was not the intended target

[Livia]

I like to see the black community stand up against guns and knives, both predominantly black crimes. Maybe instead of criticism of the police it'd be an idea to change the establishment from the inside? More black officers, perhaps?

[Crimson Dynamo]

this is why stop and search is necessary

[Niamh.]

Which crimes are "white crimes" I wonder. Was it "white crime" when Scotland had a massive issue of a similar nature or was it more to do with their socioeconomic situations....

[Livia]

Statistics prove that guns and knives and predominantly black crimes. The evidence is there if you care to look.

[Niamh.]

Statistics prove that guns and knives and predominantly black crimes. The evidence is there if you care to look.

You're not listening to what I said though, they're not "black crimes" Black people aren't drawn to knives because of the colour of their skin and white people have been known to also commit such crimes aswell, the issue is with the social class they're in, poverty lack of education etc, that doesn't only effect black people. Maybe Scotland should be looked at and see how "white knife crime" was dealt with there?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-45572691

[Livia]

You're not listening to what I said though, they're not "black crimes" Black people aren't drawn to knives because of the colour of their skin and white people have been known to also commit such crimes aswell, the issue is with the social class their in, poverty lack of education etc, that doesn't only effect black people. Maybe Scotland should be looked at and see how "white knife crime" was dealt with there?

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-45572691

You're deliberately having a problem with what I said.

Gun and knife crime is predominantly perpetrated by black criminals. That's just a fact.

You're going to have to find another way to insinuate I'm racist.

[Niamh.]

You're deliberately having a problem with what I said.

Gun and knife crime is predominantly perpetrated by black criminals. That's just a fact.

You're going to have to find another way to insinuate I'm racist.

Well yes I have a problem with what you said, not because it was you who said it though, I would have a problem with that statement no matter who said it.

[arista]

Apparently it was a drive by shooting into a group, she was not the intended target



Yes I hope Today
The Police Chief gives us an Official Statement.

[Livia]

Well yes I have a problem with what you said, not because it was you who said it though, I would have a problem with that statement no matter who said it.

You can have a problem with it. Doesn't stop it being the truth.

[bots]

glasgow was the knife capital of europe a few decades ago. A couple of my pals at school were stabbed seriously. This was in an affluent area.

I don't know what the stats are these days, but I find it extraordinary that someone gets shot in the head and it's classified almost as a typical everyday occurrence

[Niamh.]

glasgow was the knife capital of europe a few decades ago. A couple of my pals at school were stabbed seriously. This was in an affluent area.

I don't know what the stats are these days, but I find it extraordinary that someone gets shot in the head and it's classified almost as a typical everyday occurrence

Exactly. Was it ever then called a "white crime" though?

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/05/24/10/43368437-0-image-m-5_1621848393325.jpg

[Livia]

Exactly. Was it ever then called a "white crime" though?

Let it go, eh Niamh? You're hardly an authority on racism.

[Niamh.]

Let it go, eh Niamh? You're hardly an authority on racism.

I mean if you don't want people to respond to your posts in the debate section of the forum, It's probably not the right section for you tbh

[arista]

[A local said: ‘I came out of my house about 8.30am on
Sunday and the police had sealed off the road.
There was a dark coloured mountain
bike left on the street behind the police tape.

‘The officers then took it away.
I don’t know what significance it holds.
‘The shooting followed an all day party
at one of the houses by the railway arch.
My daughter walked past it about 4pm
on Saturday and apparently it continued
until late on into the night.
‘I didn’t hear any shots or any shouting.
The first I knew that something had happened
was when I stepped out of my front door to go out.’

Forensics officers have sealed off an area
of the street outside a large Victorian property
next to one of the area's famous railway arches,
with that section of Cors

Ms Johnson, a mother-of-two
Oxford Brookes graduate who rose to
prominence after organising
BLM protests last summer,
is said to be currently in intensive
care and in a critical condition in
a South London hospital following the attack.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9612115/Drive-gunmen-shot-Black-Panther-Oxford-Sasha-Johnson-head-fired-house-party.html

[UserSince2005]

Maybe know she will realise whites aren’t her enemy

[Nicky91]

don't know what to think of this


horrible attack anyway regardless of wether it is a intended anti-BLM hate crime or not

[Livia]

I mean if you don't want people to respond to your posts in the debate section of the forum, It's probably not the right section for you tbh


I don't need you to direct me where and what to post.

[arista]

don't know what to think of this


horrible attack anyway regardless of wether it is a intended anti-BLM hate crime or not



No It's other Gangsters

[Ammi]

…who is an authority on racism…people who have experienced racism…?…so many times when those who have experienced racism have spoken…their words have been disregarded as well…

[Jake.]

I don't need you to direct me where and what to post.

Let it go, eh Niamh? You're hardly an authority on racism.

Oh right :think:

[Niamh.]

I don't need you to direct me where and what to post.

You can post where ever you want, just don't be shocked when people respond to your posts :shrug:

[arista]

Maybe know she will realise whites aren’t her enemy




Can they keep her Alive?
Shot in the Head

[Crimson Dynamo]

has there ever been a rally in London about black on blaCK crime?

[Livia]

You can post where ever you want, just don't be shocked when people respond to your posts :shrug:

I know how a forum works and I am not shocked you responded. You don't really want a discussion with me, though. We both understand that.

[arista]

has there ever been a rally in London about black on blaCK crime?


It's sad

[Livia]

has there ever been a rally in London about black on blaCK crime?

And that's just it. The majority of gun and knife crime is carried out by black people ON black people. Black kids under 18 are especially vulnerable.
I think the only way forward is for the community to work with the police.

[Niamh.]

I know how a forum works and I am not shocked you responded. You don't really want a discussion with me, though. We both understand that.

I want a discussion about points I want to respond to, I don't really care who makes those points :shrug:

[Niamh.]

has there ever been a rally in London about black on blaCK crime?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2019/mar/18/akala-tells-owen-jones-the-black-on-black-violence-narrative-is-rooted-in-empire

[Crimson Dynamo]

London had the highest proportion of lone parent families in the UK in 2019, according to the Office for National Statistics.

[arista]

1396578664427540481



[Police are appealing for information
after Sasha Johnson, 27, was found
with life-threatening injuries in Southwark
at about 3am on Sunday morning.
In a statement on its Facebook page,
the Taking The Initiative Party,
a new political group she was
part of, said: "It is with great sadness that we
inform you that our own Sasha Johnson
has sustained a gunshot wound to her head.]

[Ammi]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2019/mar/18/akala-tells-owen-jones-the-black-on-black-violence-narrative-is-rooted-in-empire

…he makes so much sense and I’m inclined to agree with much of what he’s says…it’s that dismissing of certain crimes when committed by ‘black’ but when the same crimes are committed by ‘white’ then reasons have to be looked at…why is that…?…’black knife/gun crime’ is dismissed as such and therefore no looking into reasons is necessary with areas of more violence…

[Niamh.]

…he makes so much sense and I’m inclined to agree with much of what he’s says…it’s that dismissing of certain crimes when committed by ‘black’ but when the same crimes are committed by ‘white’ then reasons have to be looked at…why is that…?…’black knife/gun crime’ is dismissed as such and therefore no looking into reasons is necessary with areas of more violence…

Well yeah exactly, it's dismissing it as a crime linked to skin colour which is just not true as we've seen it happen elsewhere with predominately white people, then though they actually looked at what was causing young people to turn to crime and gangs and really helped solve the problem (or at least lessen it)

[Ammi]

Well yeah exactly, it's dismissing it as a crime linked to skin colour which is just not true as we've seen it happen elsewhere with predominately white people, then though they actually looked at what was causing young people to turn to crime and gangs and really helped solve the problem (or at least lesson it)

…that’s the only way to hope for any progression, is to look at ‘why’ and ask questions and that’s been proven as you say in areas that seem to be more solving of violent crime issues …a skin colour does not cause a crime to be committed…as he said in the vid, if that were the cases then his grandmother’s skin tone was darker than others who have committed crime….so how does that sit and be explained …?…it’s very saddening that some sections/communities etc seem to merit more in depth research and solving, which is actually proving to have real impact and others don’t…all they’re meriting is a dismissal of ‘black crime being the problem…’….a dismissive throwaway …

[The Slim Reaper]

The statistics don't even support the black on black crime myth, which is only ever used for one reason.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/figures-destroy-dangerous-myth-black-18437547

In fact white victims of homicide are far more likely to be killed by another white person than black victims are to be killed by a black person, Ministry of Justice data reveals.


Figures on the ethnicity of the suspect are not given on a local level, but national figures show that of the white people killed between 2009/10 and 2017/18, 92 percent were thought to have been killed by another white person and just 2 percent by a black person.

In comparison, of the black people killed during that time, just over half - at 55 per cent - were killed by another black person, and 33 percent by a white person.

This reveals that white-on-white violent crime is much more prevalent than black-on-black violent crime, despite rarely being talked about in the same way.

[Niamh.]

The statistics don't even support the black on black crime myth, which is only ever used for one reason.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/figures-destroy-dangerous-myth-black-18437547

In fact white victims of homicide are far more likely to be killed by another white person than black victims are to be killed by a black person, Ministry of Justice data reveals.


Figures on the ethnicity of the suspect are not given on a local level, but national figures show that of the white people killed between 2009/10 and 2017/18, 92 percent were thought to have been killed by another white person and just 2 percent by a black person.

In comparison, of the black people killed during that time, just over half - at 55 per cent - were killed by another black person, and 33 percent by a white person.

This reveals that white-on-white violent crime is much more prevalent than black-on-black violent crime, despite rarely being talked about in the same way.

Because it's just called crime then, funnily enough :think:

[Liam-]

Can you imagine the uproar if something was referred to as a ‘Jewish crime’? Lord above, I can’t deal with this place sometimes, it’s horrific

[Ammi]

…Sasha Johnson’s two children must be very young as she’s only 27yrs old…?….

[Crimson Dynamo]

Khan's London

:skull:

[The Slim Reaper]

Could be some turf war thing as it seems always to be in London, tragic

Play with fire..

this is why stop and search is necessary

has there ever been a rally in London about black on blaCK crime?

London had the highest proportion of lone parent families in the UK in 2019, according to the Office for National Statistics.

Khan's London

:skull:

I've seen you in other threads pretending to care about black mothers, and yet here you are, using the shooting of a young black mother to wheel out your one routine.

yes and its always led to black mothers losing sons

:skull:

its nothing to celebrate

its youth ignorance and poor education

[Denver]

Crime is crime and race doesn't come into it but if you feel the need to call something a black crime then I am sorry you are racist its literally the same energy of calling all Muslims terrorists when you could just call it a crime

[Cherie]

Surgery has gone well, so that is good news

[Ammi]

…drill music isn’t a skin colour thing either and has been around for many years…this is an Irish artist..(…Irish Drill is very popular…)..he was featured on Jools Holland…his music is very powerful…



y7AM80tpfBQ


.

[Crimson Dynamo]

…drill music isn’t a skin colour thing either and has been around for many years…this is an Irish artist..(…Irish Drill is very popular…)..he was featured on Jools Holland…his music is very powerful…



y7AM80tpfBQ


.

its not the skin colour (not sure why you made that assumption) its the lyrics and what it represents

the killer thug who pulled the trigger could be white or black

[Ammi]

…so did you delete your post referencing drill music and ‘you couldn’t make it up’ because it apparently did have a reference …no worries, it’ll be in the deletion bin I’m sure….I have no idea why you would do that but hey ho….how silly….

[Liam-]

People never get tired of demonising black people huh?

[Ammi]

…debating/discussing these very serious topics and very serious issues used to be just that, discussing them seriously…and not these bizarre games that it seems to have become now…

[smudgie]

Poor lass.
Hope she makes a full recovery.

[AnnieK]

…so did you delete your post referencing drill music and ‘you couldn’t make it up’ because it apparently did have a reference …no worries, it’ll be in the deletion bin I’m sure….I have no idea why you would do that but hey ho….how silly….

I saw it Ammi and I'm sure others did too. Could be a mod deletion though?

[Ammi]

I saw it Ammi and I'm sure others did too. Could be a mod deletion though?

…yeah that’s true, Annie…I didn’t think of that in my confusion….apologies LT if that wasn’t your own deletion….

[arista]

Poor lass.
Hope she makes a full recovery.


She has had Surgery on her head.

[arista]

People never get tired of demonising black people huh?


She is High Profile

[arista]

Khan's London

:skull:


Yes he is Busy getting Transport improved.

[Livia]

Can you imagine the uproar if something was referred to as a ‘Jewish crime’? Lord above, I can’t deal with this place sometimes, it’s horrific

Well, if you referred to a Jewish crime, it'd be untrue. Wouldn't it. According to the same set of statistic to which I refer.

This is not about me insulting black people however much you and other want to think that. You can all back each other up all you want, gun and knife crime is predominantly a black crime, there's no getting away from it. I am not saying this because I'm a racist, I'm saying this because it needs addressing; because those who die from gun and knife crime are also predominantly black and that is just not acceptable. And that's never going to be addressed until people stop having a meltdown when race is mentioned.

Lord above, I can't deal with this place sometimes either.

[Nicky91]

Well, if you referred to a Jewish crime, it'd be untrue. Wouldn't it. According to the same set of statistic to which I refer.

This is not about me insulting black people however much you and other want to think that. You can all back each other up all you want, gun and knife crime is predominantly a black crime, there's no getting away from it. I am not saying this because I'm a racist, I'm saying this because it needs addressing; because those who die from gun and knife crime are also predominantly black and that is just not acceptable. And that's never going to be addressed until people stop having a meltdown when race is mentioned.

Lord above, I can't deal with this place sometimes either.

+1

same

[DouglasS]

Well, if you referred to a Jewish crime, it'd be untrue. Wouldn't it. According to the same set of statistic to which I refer.

This is not about me insulting black people however much you and other want to think that. You can all back each other up all you want, gun and knife crime is predominantly a black crime, there's no getting away from it. I am not saying this because I'm a racist, I'm saying this because it needs addressing; because those who die from gun and knife crime are also predominantly black and that is just not acceptable. And that's never going to be addressed until people stop having a meltdown when race is mentioned.

Lord above, I can't deal with this place sometimes either.

:clap1:

Pretending this is not the case is just going to result in more black people dying

[Niamh.]

:clap1:

Pretending this is not the case is just going to result in more black people dying

Myth 1: Knife crime is committed “almost exclusively” by young black men.

Speaking on ITV’s Good Morning Britain in March, co-host Piers Morgan stated “statistically, it looks like in London, right now… the perpetrators and the victims appear to be almost exclusively young black men.”

Reality: Citing Freedom of Information requests made to police forces, in July 2018 Sky News noted that in London “Almost half of murder victims – as well as suspects – were black despite the ethnic group accounting for just 13 per cent of London's population.” However, Sky News also explained “Numbers for the rest of the country painted a different picture, with murder victim and suspect figures more or less proportionate to the makeup of the population.” For example, in February BBC News noted the worst place for fatal stabbings in the UK, in proportion to population, was Inverclyde in Scotland. A few miles to the east the 95 per cent white Glasgow was, until recently, dubbed – by the Daily Mail – “the knife crime capital of Britain.”

“There are likely to be important socio-economic factors in homicides that cannot be examined using” the basic data, a 2019 Office for National Statistics report conceded. Indeed, according to the Serious Violence Strategy published by the government last year “the evidence on links between serious violence and ethnicity is limited. Once other factors are controlled for, it is not clear from the evidence whether ethnicity is a predictor of offending or victimisation.”

Taking a “wide range of factors into account”, including ethnicity, a 2003 study by the Youth Justice Board titled Young People & Street Crime echoed this conclusion. It found “two main factors explained differences in the levels of street crime between [London] boroughs… the level of deprivation… and the extent of population change” – the number of young people as a proportion of the total population.

“Crime is prevalent in poor areas, and since black people are disproportionality poor, they are disproportionately affected – as perpetrators and victims,” the Guardian’s Gary Younge noted in 2017, after extensive investigative work into knife crime. “It’s class – not race or culture – that is the defining issue.”

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/f/top-3-knife-crime-myths-busted

[Liam-]

Facts don’t matter to people intent on painting black people like monsters

[Cherie]

I think like many things London has its own stats, and you can't take the whole country as one as in many things

Young black men in London are being murdered at a rate unlike anywhere else in the UK, as gang wars rage on in the capital.

Sky News has spent months speaking with London's fiercest gangs as part of an investigation into this year's increase in gang-related violence.

Our freedom of information requests reveal almost half of murder victims and murder suspects in the capital are young black men - way out of proportion to London's population, in which 13% are black.

https://news.sky.com/story/line-18-gang-warfare-is-killing-londons-young-black-men-11447089

[Marsh.]

Can you imagine the uproar if something was referred to as a ‘Jewish crime’? Lord above, I can’t deal with this place sometimes, it’s horrific

Yep. The hypocrisy is no longer staggering, however.

[Niamh.]

I think like many things London has its own stats, and you can't take the whole country as one as in many things

Young black men in London are being murdered at a rate unlike anywhere else in the UK, as gang wars rage on in the capital.

Sky News has spent months speaking with London's fiercest gangs as part of an investigation into this year's increase in gang-related violence.

Our freedom of information requests reveal almost half of murder victims and murder suspects in the capital are young black men - way out of proportion to London's population, in which 13% are black.

https://news.sky.com/story/line-18-gang-warfare-is-killing-londons-young-black-men-11447089

Sure I'm not denying that but there are reasons for that, the same reasons why Glasgow had the highest rates of knife crime in the past and it wasn't because they were mostly white in Glasgow just like in London it isn't because they're black (also the article I posted says that as well)

[arista]

Facts don’t matter to people intent on painting black people like monsters


She is an Oxford Graduate
But chose to be a Dangerous Political Public Speaker.
In charge of a new Black Lead Party.

[Cherie]

Sure I'm not denying that but there are reasons for that, the same reasons why Glasgow had the highest rates of knife crime in the past and it wasn't because they were mostly white in Glasgow just like in London it isn't because they're black (also the article I posted says that as well)

I think for people who live in London or have lived in London this is the current experience though, it's what is on the London News practically every night of the week, there has been some respite during lockdown, I don't think this it is racist to point this out

I have heard Black Youth leaders pointing it out and Black ex gang members go into schools to speak about their experiences, none of whom are I would imagine are racist

If I lived in Scotland I would probably say it was white on white crime and that is not racist to say either, but that is not my experience

[Niamh.]

I think for people who live in London or have lived in London this is the current experience though, it's what is on the London News practically every night of the week, there has been some respite during lockdown, I don't think this it is racist to point this out

I have heard Black Youth leaders pointing it out and Black ex gang members go into schools to speak about their experiences, none of whom are I would imagine are racist

If I lived in Scotland I would probably say it was white on white crime and that is not racist to say either, but that is not my experience

The point is it was never referred to as white on white crime at all

[Crimson Dynamo]

I hope she recovers

I am puzzled with the news media calling her an "equality campaigner" when:

Ms Johnson played a leading role in the summer BLM protests, including the
Million People March, and rose to notoriety shortly before when videos
showed her confronting a black man she was arguing with and repeatedly
calling him the racial slur 'c**n'.

In the past, her Twitter account have been suspended for tweets which
discussed enslaving white people. She told us these tweets were 'fake' and
an 'attack from the Far Right'.

Ms Johnson has campaigned for statues to be removed and is part of the
secretive group Forever Family Force.

Footage on Instagram shows her parading with female FFF members in
military-style garb during a march in Brixton earlier this year for African
Emancipation Day.

Comparisons have been made with the Black Panthers, the radical far-Left
protesters who wore similar uniforms as they campaigned against police
brutality in 1960s America.

Ms Johnson is also the UK's representative of a new organisation called the
New Black Panthers Party and has called for the establishment of a 'black
militia' in the UK.

In a video posted in July last year, she compared the police to the Ku Klux
Klan.

Ms Johnson also led chants of '******* the police' and 'one solution,
revolution' in a fresh campaign to remove the statue of Cecil Rhodes from
Oxford University.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9612115/Drive-gunmen-shot-Black-Panther-Oxford-Sasha-Johnson-head-fired-house-party.html#comments

horrible aggressive extreme-left politics that have no place in a modern diverse, welcoming Britain

[Swan]

I'd never heard of this woman, it's amazing how she survived a gunshot to the head, though it's not unheard of. I wonder the calibre of the weapon?!

As far as 'black on black' crime technically it's true, just the same as white on white crime, but the bigger picture really is 'crime is crime' I wouldn't personally focus on race i would (and have done many times before) focus on class and social standing.

Class privilege is very real, always has been yet nothing much is really said. We kind of just accept it, like it's a part of our culture. Example - A girl i kinda of knew through other people, as thick as two planks, managed to worm her way into Uni through an appeal after previously getting rejected. Daddy, a Headmaster at a Grammar School pulled a few strings, and of course she ended up getting in. She also decided she wanted to become an actress, Mummy who works in the City (London) for a firm that has connections to a Talent Agency manged to get this completely untalented person into minor roles on BBC TV Shows, like Crimewatch reenactments for example....Im ranting now but class plays a huge part. Do you think a working class person living in a council flat in London, no matter what race, would get those kind of breaks in life?! Of course not! They would probably have to work twice as hard and be awarded with half as much.

All the above can make a person living in poverty feel hopeless, so what happens when society rejects them merely because they're seen a lesser person? They turn to crime, they turn to gangs. Poverty and class structure builds hopelessness, and in turn hopelessness breads criminality.

Equal opportunity is non-existent, it's all about who you know, and where you're from. We're far from the only country guilty of this, but it doesn't make it anymore acceptable imo. Equal opportunity should be afforded to all, no matter class, unfortunately it never has and probably never will. This applies to all races.

[arista]

[She is also a UK representative of
the Black Panthers Party - modelled on a far-Left
sub-set of protesters who campaigned
against police brutality in 1960s America.]

[Ms Johnson, an Oxford Brookes graduate,
has campaigned for statues to be removed
and is part of the secretive group Forever Family Force.]

[jet]

I'd never heard of this woman, it's amazing how she survived a gunshot to the head, though it's not unheard of. I wonder the calibre of the weapon?!

As far as 'black on black' crime technically it's true, just the same as white on white crime, but the bigger picture really is 'crime is crime' I wouldn't personally focus on race i would (and have done many times before) focus on class and social standing.

Class privilege is very real, always has been yet nothing much is really said. We kind of just accept it, like it's a part of our culture. Example - A girl i kinda of knew through other people, as thick as two planks, managed to worm her way into Uni through an appeal after previously getting rejected. Daddy, a Headmaster at a Grammar School pulled a few strings, and of course she ended up getting in. She also decided she wanted to become an actress, Mummy who works in the City (London) for a firm that has connections to a Talent Agency manged to get this completely untalented person into minor roles on BBC TV Shows, like Crimewatch reenactments for example....Im ranting now but class plays a huge part. Do you think a working class person living in a council flat in London, no matter what race, would get those kind of breaks in life?! Of course not! They would probably have to work twice as hard and be awarded with half as much.

All the above can make a person living in poverty feel hopeless, so what happens when society rejects them merely because they're seen a lesser person? They turn to crime, they turn to gangs. Poverty and class structure builds hopelessness, and in turn hopelessness breads criminality.

Equal opportunity is non-existent, it's all about who you know, and where you're from. We're far from the only country guilty of this, but it doesn't make it anymore acceptable imo. Equal opportunity should be afforded to all, no matter class, unfortunately it never has and probably never will. This applies to all races.

Very good post Swan. :clap1:

[Niamh.]

I'd never heard of this woman, it's amazing how she survived a gunshot to the head, though it's not unheard of. I wonder the calibre of the weapon?!

As far as 'black on black' crime technically it's true, just the same as white on white crime, but the bigger picture really is 'crime is crime' I wouldn't personally focus on race i would (and have done many times before) focus on class and social standing.

Class privilege is very real, always has been yet nothing much is really said. We kind of just accept it, like it's a part of our culture. Example - A girl i kinda of knew through other people, as thick as two planks, managed to worm her way into Uni through an appeal after previously getting rejected. Daddy, a Headmaster at a Grammar School pulled a few strings, and of course she ended up getting in. She also decided she wanted to become an actress, Mummy who works in the City (London) for a firm that has connections to a Talent Agency manged to get this completely untalented person into minor roles on BBC TV Shows, like Crimewatch reenactments for example....Im ranting now but class plays a huge part. Do you think a working class person living in a council flat in London, no matter what race, would get those kind of breaks in life?! Of course not! They would probably have to work twice as hard and be awarded with half as much.

All the above can make a person living in poverty feel hopeless, so what happens when society rejects them merely because they're seen a lesser person? They turn to crime, they turn to gangs. Poverty and class structure builds hopelessness, and in turn hopelessness breads criminality.

Equal opportunity is non-existent, it's all about who you know, and where you're from. We're far from the only country guilty of this, but it doesn't make it anymore acceptable imo. Equal opportunity should be afforded to all, no matter class, unfortunately it never has and probably never will. This applies to all races.

Yep that's it in a nutshell really Swan

[arista]

There is a Vigil outside her Hospital.

[Oliver_W]

She is an Oxford Graduate
But chose to be a Dangerous Political Public Speaker.
In charge of a new Black Lead Party.

Well, it was only Oxford Brookes, so ... ;)

[rusticgal]

I'd never heard of this woman, it's amazing how she survived a gunshot to the head, though it's not unheard of. I wonder the calibre of the weapon?!

As far as 'black on black' crime technically it's true, just the same as white on white crime, but the bigger picture really is 'crime is crime' I wouldn't personally focus on race i would (and have done many times before) focus on class and social standing.

Class privilege is very real, always has been yet nothing much is really said. We kind of just accept it, like it's a part of our culture. Example - A girl i kinda of knew through other people, as thick as two planks, managed to worm her way into Uni through an appeal after previously getting rejected. Daddy, a Headmaster at a Grammar School pulled a few strings, and of course she ended up getting in. She also decided she wanted to become an actress, Mummy who works in the City (London) for a firm that has connections to a Talent Agency manged to get this completely untalented person into minor roles on BBC TV Shows, like Crimewatch reenactments for example....Im ranting now but class plays a huge part. Do you think a working class person living in a council flat in London, no matter what race, would get those kind of breaks in life?! Of course not! They would probably have to work twice as hard and be awarded with half as much.

All the above can make a person living in poverty feel hopeless, so what happens when society rejects them merely because they're seen a lesser person? They turn to crime, they turn to gangs. Poverty and class structure builds hopelessness, and in turn hopelessness breads criminality.

Equal opportunity is non-existent, it's all about who you know, and where you're from. We're far from the only country guilty of this, but it doesn't make it anymore acceptable imo. Equal opportunity should be afforded to all, no matter class, unfortunately it never has and probably never will. This applies to all races.


In a nutshell...

[Jake.]

I'd never heard of this woman, it's amazing how she survived a gunshot to the head, though it's not unheard of. I wonder the calibre of the weapon?!

As far as 'black on black' crime technically it's true, just the same as white on white crime, but the bigger picture really is 'crime is crime' I wouldn't personally focus on race i would (and have done many times before) focus on class and social standing.

Class privilege is very real, always has been yet nothing much is really said. We kind of just accept it, like it's a part of our culture. Example - A girl i kinda of knew through other people, as thick as two planks, managed to worm her way into Uni through an appeal after previously getting rejected. Daddy, a Headmaster at a Grammar School pulled a few strings, and of course she ended up getting in. She also decided she wanted to become an actress, Mummy who works in the City (London) for a firm that has connections to a Talent Agency manged to get this completely untalented person into minor roles on BBC TV Shows, like Crimewatch reenactments for example....Im ranting now but class plays a huge part. Do you think a working class person living in a council flat in London, no matter what race, would get those kind of breaks in life?! Of course not! They would probably have to work twice as hard and be awarded with half as much.

All the above can make a person living in poverty feel hopeless, so what happens when society rejects them merely because they're seen a lesser person? They turn to crime, they turn to gangs. Poverty and class structure builds hopelessness, and in turn hopelessness breads criminality.

Equal opportunity is non-existent, it's all about who you know, and where you're from. We're far from the only country guilty of this, but it doesn't make it anymore acceptable imo. Equal opportunity should be afforded to all, no matter class, unfortunately it never has and probably never will. This applies to all races.

:clap1:

Nail on head.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

There is a Vigil outside her Hospital.

"Another speaker went on to urge the crowd to not give the “white supremacist
media” anything to report on, saying: “don’t give them a story, don’t give them
a narrative, don’t give them anything until they give us something.”


Some on the far-left in Britain, including Labour MP Diane Abbott, have implied
that the shooting of Ms Johsnon could have been politically motivated.


“Black activist #SashaJohnson in hospital in critical condition after sustaining a
gunshot wound to the head,” Abbott wrote on social media, adding: “Nobody
should have to potentially pay with their life because they stood up for racial
justice” with the hashtag #BlackLivesMatter."

:umm2:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/05/24/activists-blame-media-for-shooting-of-black-lives-matter-radical-sasha-johnson/

[arista]

[including Labour MP Diane Abbott, have implied
that the shooting of Ms Johsnon could
have been politically motivated.]


She is Deluded.

It was a Drive by Rival Gang

[Crimson Dynamo]

[including Labour MP Diane Abbott, have implied
that the shooting of Ms Johsnon could
have been politically motivated.]


She is Deluded.

It was a Drive by Rival Gang


she makes me sick

she is on with Iain Dale now!

[arista]

Ch4HDnews
reports from the scene
she was a Local Party
they Showed loads of Gazebo's over the fence
in the Garden.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ch4HDnews
reports from the scene
she was a Local Party
they Showed loads of Gazebo's over the fence
in the Garden.

was it covid legal?

[Cherie]

Her friend seems adamant that it wasn’t targeted, her political party thinks it was

But if it was targeted then someone in her circle leaked her movements as a party is not a regular occurrence

[Crimson Dynamo]

The awful BBC portraying her as an angel and not a hard left anti Britain anti police militant. Why am I not surprised

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/LhHJflZ0DVSTnVwh1GSBfw/https/media.fyre.co/ugSzWUl0QWG4cNMtLd50_25may1front05_1621887096_001. jpg

[Gstar]

Not even attempting to read through the 5 pages but wishing her a speedy recovery. Terrible thing to happen

[bots]

Sasha Johnson is critically ill in hospital after being shot in the head at a property in Peckham on Sunday.

Met Commander Alison Heydari said the men had "entered the garden of the property and discharged a firearm".

Ms Johnson's party said she had previously received death threats but police have said there was "nothing to suggest" it was "a targeted attack".

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I'm still struggling with them writing off it being a targeted attack

[Ammi]

Sasha Johnson is critically ill in hospital after being shot in the head at a property in Peckham on Sunday.

Met Commander Alison Heydari said the men had "entered the garden of the property and discharged a firearm".

Ms Johnson's party said she had previously received death threats but police have said there was "nothing to suggest" it was "a targeted attack".

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I'm still struggling with them writing off it being a targeted attack

…I read this morning that 4 men were being looked for and it does seem targeted…poor lady and her family…her children….all so sad and awful….

[Beso]

Mother of 3, shot at 3am on a Sunday morning at a party.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/25/blm-activist-sasha-johnson-shot-garden-four-black-men-police/

[Beso]

…I read this morning that 4 men were being looked for and it does seem targeted…poor lady and her family…her children….all so sad and awful….

4 black men, looking for a rival. She was struck by a stray bullet.

[bots]

4 black men, looking for a rival. She was struck by a stray bullet.

and you believe that why? A stray bullet that just happened to hit her in the head when no-one else was injured in the slightest. It's not a stray bullet if she was the only one hit

[Beso]

and you believe that why? A stray bullet that just happened to hit her in the head when no-one else was injured in the slightest

Because it's what witnesses and police are saying!

[bots]

Because it's what witnesses and police are saying!

and that makes it true?

[Beso]

It's not a stray bullet if she was the only one hit

That's ridiculous...remember that young kid killed by a stray bullet...he was the only one hit..:shrug:

[Beso]

and that makes it true?

It makes it truer than anyones suspicion on here that it was a targeted attack on her.

[bots]

That's ridiculous...remember that young kid killed by a stray bullet...he as the only one hit..:shrug:

its not ridiculous. A witness cannot possible tell if it was a stray bullet if she was the only one hit

[Liam-]

A woman gets sent hundreds of death threats because of her political and sociological beliefs, said woman’s house gets broken into and she gets shot in the head... but the police aren’t concerned any of it is connected and aren’t looking into it? Nah, just say you’re happy she got shot like

[Beso]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-44241133

[Beso]

A woman gets sent hundreds of death threats because of her political and sociological beliefs, said woman’s house gets broken into and she gets shot in the head... but the police aren’t concerned any of it is connected and aren’t looking into it? Nah, just say you’re happy she got shot like

The police were unaware of any death threats made towards her..so atm that has not been proven.

[Cherie]

A woman gets sent hundreds of death threats because of her political and sociological beliefs, said woman’s house gets broken into and she gets shot in the head... but the police aren’t concerned any of it is connected and aren’t looking into it? Nah, just say you’re happy she got shot like

I didn't think the party was at her home? can you confirm where you read this

[Liam-]

Oh, I read it wrong, I thought it said they entered her property :hee:

Still, saying outright that it doesn’t seem connected when the only person shot just happens to be someone who’s been in the political limelight and received countless death threats is, bizarre to say the least

[Ammi]

…the police have confirmed nothing so far as I know and need more information…some who know Sasha are saying that it was targeted and some are saying not so….this is why we need to wait for police information in regards to actual facts…

[bots]

exactly Ammie, if the police are so sure that it wasn't a targeted attack, they need to back that up with an explanation that supports it

[Ammi]

Oh, I read it wrong, I thought it said they entered her property :hee:

Still, saying outright that it doesn’t seem connected when the only person shot just happens to be someone who’s been in the political limelight and received countless death threats is, bizarre to say the least

…I think that it’s quite confusing, Liam because the reports are ‘her party’ … but that reference is to The Taking the Initiative Party, not the party she was attending being hers at her home, you know…some of ‘her party’ are saying that it was targeted and at least one of her party is saying something different…

[Ammi]

exactly Ammie, if the police are so sure that it wasn't a targeted attack, they need to back that up with an explanation that supports it


…there really doesn’t seem to be much at all coming from the police considering the incident and that she’s known to many …

[Cherie]

Oh, I read it wrong, I thought it said they entered her property :hee:

Still, saying outright that it doesn’t seem connected when the only person shot just happens to be someone who’s been in the political limelight and received countless death threats is, bizarre to say the least

Not saying it isn't but it would mean someone had leaked her whereabouts which takes it to new levels

[Oliver_W]

Apparently the people whose house it was were involved in gang disputes, for whatever that's worth.

[Beso]

Oh, I read it wrong, I thought it said they entered her property :hee:

Still, saying outright that it doesn’t seem connected when the only person shot just happens to be someone who’s been in the political limelight and received countless death threats is, bizarre to say the least

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/sasha-johnson-shooting-update-political-party-ttip-police-b937036.html

[DouglasS]

and that makes it true?

I mean it’s being said she was shot at a party/house with witnesses… I doubt every witness has decided to just lie for zero incentives :conf:

Details bar that have yet to be released but it’d be odd for them to just all lie..

But let’s just go with the profile with who bitontheside thinks shot her instead of people who were present

[bots]

I mean she was shot at a party full of people… I doubt every witness has decided to just lie for zero incentives :conf:

But he’s let’s just go with the profile with who bitontheside thinks shot her instead of people who were present

i'm going from the sketchy details i've heard so far. Everyone knows that witness statements are inherently unreliable, so if it wasn't a targeted attack, it's up to the police to explain why it was not a targeted attack. So far, they haven't put anything solid forward that would dispel that notion

[Crimson Dynamo]

YOu should have heard Diane Abbott last night on LBC try to defend that tweet she made - she made an utter fool of herself, yet again.

edit: you can listen to her car crash lies here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9615843/Diane-Abbott-accused-inflaming-racial-divides-Black-Panther-Oxford-Sasha-Johnson-tweet.html

[arista]

[Police hunt 'four young black men' over shooting
of 'Black Panther of Oxford' Sasha Johnson: Gang
'wearing dark clothes' burst into Peckham party
at 3am and opened fire - as officers reiterate
it was NOT 'targeted at victim'

Sasha Johnson's political party
are rejecting idea the 'Black Panther of Oxford'
was caught in crossfire
Police say a gang of four men ran into a
garden and shot into crowd of partygoers
before fleeing the scene
Mother of two is fighting for her life
following the attack in Peckham,
south-east London at 3am on Sunday
Scotland Yard is insisting there is nothing
to suggest the 27-year-old was
the target of the shooting
Home Office blasts 'very irresponsible' Diane Abbott
for stoking 'tensions' by insisting
she was shot deliberately
Taking the Initiative Party have slammed
police claims that threats against Ms Johnson
were not 'credible' ]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9615725/Police-hunt-four-young-black-men-shooting-Sasha-Johnson.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/05/25/08/43406773-0-image-a-8_1621926819456.jpg

[arista]

Nothing New
just Confirmation another Gang invaded their Garden

4 Armed Black Men got Away

[arista]

1397102008314834945

[Ammi]

…the police don’t have any records of being notified of any threats to her life so wouldn’t be able to say whether it was targeted or not …it’s still an unknown atm and hopefully it’ll be known soon with their progress…she has such a long fight to go yet but she’s still holding on with a successful surgery but still critical…

[Crimson Dynamo]

…the police don’t have any records of being notified of any threats to her life so wouldn’t be able to say whether it was targeted or not …it’s still an unknown atm and hopefully it’ll be known soon with their progress…she has such a long fight to go yet but she’s still holding on with a successful surgery but still critical…

they would have spoken to everyone who actually saw it and its not too hard to ascertain if it was a hit or an accident. Of course the police know.

unlike race-baiting abbott

[bots]

they would have spoken to everyone who actually saw it and its not too hard to ascertain if it was a hit or an accident. Of course the police know.

unlike race-baiting abbott

in that circumstance you would expect the police to say that the gunmen came in and sprayed bullets randomly at the crowd, it was in no way targeted. It's not difficult to state if that's what happened, and would normally be part of the content from a police statement early on. They haven't done that though, for whatever reason, they havent explained events in any detail. That leaves room for speculation

[Ammi]

they would have spoken to everyone who actually saw it and its not too hard to ascertain if it was a hit or an accident. Of course the police know.

unlike race-baiting abbott

….that’s the statement that the police have just made to the reporter so you’ll have to take anything you feel differently up with them directly…to have death threats and now be the victim of a shooting isn’t something that they can comment on unless they were aware of the death threats prior to this …which they’re obviously saying weren’t reported….so that aspect will have to be investigated as well…

[Crimson Dynamo]

in that circumstance you would expect the police to say that the gunmen came in and sprayed bullets randomly at the crowd, it was in no way targeted. It's not difficult to state if that's what happened, and would normally be part of the content from a police statement early on. They haven't done that though, for whatever reason, they havent explained events in any detail. That leaves room for speculation

Sasha Johnson was shot in the head in a 'melee' that also saw a fellow
partygoer knifed when a gang of four young black men stormed into a Peckham
garden with 30 people inside and opened fire, police revealed today.


Commander Alison Heydari has made an appeal for anyone who knows the
identity of the gunmen to come forward - but insisted that there was no
evidence the BLM activist was the true target.

dm

It was after an argument started, then someone pulled a knife and then guns were drawn.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/05/25/15/43424657-9615725-image-m-12_1621954513646.jpg

[bots]

A melee does not automatically mean someone was not targeted, c'mon LT

[UserSince2005]

Jeez imagine being the neighbors to that racket at 3am in the morning. zero respect.

[UserSince2005]

Ms Sasha, in all her glory, berating a poor black man.

ilZJB5vsmq4

[arista]

2 Men and one Teenager have been arrested
in connection with the shooting.


Ch5HDnews.

[Beso]

Mother of three, at a 3am covid times party, involving up to 30 revellers gets shot.

[UserSince2005]

Mother of three, at a 3am covid times party, involving up to 30 revellers gets shot.

Take the kids into care before they join a gang.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i bet the police love working on this case...:skull:

defund the police

the police are scum

the police are the KKK

-----------------

she is lucky they are committed public servants, unlike her and her Marxist mob

[Kazanne]

No riots ? Thats strange.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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1397887376912007170

[arista]

Sasha Johnson: Teenager charged over Peckham shooting

[An 18-year-old man has been charged with
conspiracy to murder over the shooting
of Black Lives Matter activist Sasha Johnson.
The 27-year-old was shot in the head at a
house party in Peckham on 23 May
and is in a critical condition in hospital.

Cameron Deriggs, 18, from Lewisham,
will appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Saturday.

The Metropolitan Police said four other men arrested
over the incident have been bailed until late June.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57290536

[Kizzy]

Ms Sasha, in all her glory, berating a poor black man.

ilZJB5vsmq4

I'm getting the 'remember I told you' vibes from this exchange. Uncomfortable.

[Cherie]

Sasha Johnson: Teenager charged over Peckham shooting

[An 18-year-old man has been charged with
conspiracy to murder over the shooting
of Black Lives Matter activist Sasha Johnson.
The 27-year-old was shot in the head at a
house party in Peckham on 23 May
and is in a critical condition in hospital.

Cameron Deriggs, 18, from Lewisham,
will appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Saturday.

The Metropolitan Police said four other men arrested
over the incident have been bailed until late June.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57290536

Caught them fast

[thesheriff443]

Caught them fast

I’d imagine because they came into the back garden of the property were there was a party and had a fight and stabbed a man before shooting Sasha they knew each other or some one at the party knew who it was.

[Oliver_W]

Ms Sasha, in all her glory, berating a poor black man.

ilZJB5vsmq4

Activists hate it when "their" people show independent thought and dare to leave the reservation.

But even abusive thugs don't deserve to be murdered...

[thesheriff443]

Activists hate it when "their" people show independent thought and dare to leave the reservation.

But even abusive thugs don't deserve to be murdered...

They don’t but if you are carrying this much hate around it usually ends in violence.

[bots]

she doesn't rank in the worlds most pleasant people in my estimation, but that doesn't warrant getting shot in the head. The world is full of people we don't like or disagree with, should we just shoot them?

[Oliver_W]

They don’t but if you are carrying this much hate around it usually ends in violence.

But the violence had nothing to do with her, by all accounts?

[thesheriff443]

But the violence had nothing to do with her, by all accounts?

That’s true from what we know but she got shot so I presume there was a confrontation.

As from the video clip it’s very unlikely she would avoid a confrontation.

[Tom4784]

So Sheriff's point of view is 'the evidence may suggest she's an innocent bystander but **** all that, I have a random feeling that she's full of hate because BLM makes me irrationally angry so she probably brought on being shot in the head somehow!'

[Swan]

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/sasha-johnson-shooting-peckham-police-mother-appeal-b939158.html

Still little to no motive yet to be established. It's a shame nobody is talking to the Police.

Sasha's mother quoted in saying -

Someone must have information to what happened and to come forward.

Sasha is passionate about standing up for others, please come forward and stand up for Sasha.

Come forward to help us, I know it is not always easy but imagine if it was your daughter or the mother of your children.

I believe there are people out there that can help

And that Sasha is still in "critical condition"

Im still amazed she survived a gunshot to the head, and is continuing to survive. I can't begin to imagine what her mother and children must be going through. Information seems pretty scarce atm.

[arista]

"Still little to no motive yet to be established."



Yes its Gang War
I wonder if she will recover?

[hijaxers]

"Still little to no motive yet to be established."



Yes its Gang War
I wonder if she will recover?

Well if she does recover i doubt she will be the same person as before , her injuries will have some lasting effect sadly. I hope she survives ~ gangs are to scared to talk as they or they're family will be next to suffer . The gang problem has got so bad and innocent people will continue to be shot and stabbed unfortunately.

[Swan]

"Still little to no motive yet to be established."



Yes its Gang War
I wonder if she will recover?

It's funny how major news outlets, and twitter seem to have gone quiet about this. A prominent BLM matter activist is fighting for her life, yet we don't seem to hear anything about it.

[arista]

Sasha Johnson: Second man charged over activist's shooting

[A second man has been charged over the
shooting of black equal rights activist Sasha Johnson.
Ms Johnson, 27, was shot in the head at a house
party in Consort Road, Peckham, on 23 May and
remains in a critical condition in hospital.
Devonte Brown, 18, of Southwark, was charged
with conspiracy to murder on Friday.
The Met Police said he was due to appear in
custody at Westminster Magistrates' Court on Saturday.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57454280


https://news.sky.com/story/sasha-johnson-second-teen-charged-with-conspiracy-to-murder-black-rights-activist-12330951

[bots]

Police have charged two more men over the shooting of black equal rights activist Sasha Johnson.

Ms Johnson, a 27-year-old mother of two, remains in a critical condition after the attack at a house party in Peckham, south London, on 23 May.

On Thursday police charged Prince Dixon, 25, and Troy Reid, 19, with conspiracy to murder.

A total of four men have been charged in connection with the shooting, while four others remain on bail until June.

Police previously charged Cameron Deriggs and Devonte Brown, both 18, with conspiracy to murder. They will appear at the Old Bailey in the coming weeks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57521355

[thesheriff443]

It’s good news

[hijaxers]

Police have charged two more men over the shooting of black equal rights activist Sasha Johnson.

Ms Johnson, a 27-year-old mother of two, remains in a critical condition after the attack at a house party in Peckham, south London, on 23 May.

On Thursday police charged Prince Dixon, 25, and Troy Reid, 19, with conspiracy to murder.

A total of four men have been charged in connection with the shooting, while four others remain on bail until June.

Police previously charged Cameron Deriggs and Devonte Brown, both 18, with conspiracy to murder. They will appear at the Old Bailey in the coming weeks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57521355



Ok ~ Conspiracy to murder ? does this mean they actually went after her ? or are we still totally unclear ? I feel the truth is being hidden from public here ~ massively.

[bots]

Ok ~ Conspiracy to murder ? does this mean they actually went after her ? or are we still totally unclear ? I feel the truth is being hidden from public here ~ massively.

thats what conspiracy implies to me, but it may have a different meaning in the legal world

[Oliver_W]

Ok ~ Conspiracy to murder ? does this mean they actually went after her ? or are we still totally unclear ? I feel the truth is being hidden from public here ~ massively.

thats what conspiracy implies to me, but it may have a different meaning in the legal world

I wonder what the motives were too... Any word of she was involved in gang stuff?

[Swan]

I'd like to know more about her condition tbh.

[arista]

I'd like to know more about her condition tbh.



Yes Kept Secret?

[arista]

Two more men charged over shooting

[A total of four men have been charged in connection
with the shooting,
while four others remain on bail until June.

Police previously charged Cameron Deriggs
and Devonte Brown, both 18, with conspiracy to murder.
They will appear at the Old Bailey in the coming weeks.]

[Ammi]

I'd like to know more about her condition tbh.

…I would imagine that there just isn’t much to know in the way of improvement…I read that she’d had two surgeries to release pressure on her brain but is still in a critical condition…I know that a coma is often induced with serious brain injuries to give an opportunity for healing but it doesn’t sound as though that’s happening and doesn’t sound great tbh…it may be whether medication can stop at any time for her to be brought to consciousness, whether the injuries to her brain heal enough for that to happen and obviously not atm…. She’s survived the surgeries but it doesn’t feel as though they’ve improved her condition as such….so yeah, I doubt anything would be reported atm ….just awful for her family….

[Cherie]

Ok ~ Conspiracy to murder ? does this mean they actually went after her ? or are we still totally unclear ? I feel the truth is being hidden from public here ~ massively.

I don’t know if it meant conspiracy to murder her specifically or someone else at the party

[Livia]

A woman gets sent hundreds of death threats because of her political and sociological beliefs, said woman’s house gets broken into and she gets shot in the head... but the police aren’t concerned any of it is connected and aren’t looking into it? Nah, just say you’re happy she got shot like

Was this something you watched on TV? Because it bears no resemblance to this story, especially as it develops.

[Swan]

Any fresh news on this?

[arista]

Any fresh news on this?



No
we need an update

[Swan]

No
we need an update

Something is being hidden, i dunno what, but it seems very strange there is so much hush concerning this story.

[Ammi]

…I don’t think that there is any medical changes/improvements in her condition, sadly…I doubt we’ll hear anything unless there were significant changes…the four who have been charged are all expected to plead not guilty is all that is being reported….maybe the trials will be later this year…

[arista]

Update :


Her Trail has Collapsed
the 4 men are Not Guilty.

Due to be released from Jail.



She is still stable.
Still in a hospital.
So far two operations


Live at the Old Bailey

BBCnewsHD

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/sasha-johnson-prosecution-case-men-accused-shooting-blm-campaigner-collapses-b983941.html


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sasha-johnson-shooting-case-attempted-murder-b2020550.html

[UserSince2005]

Still in hospital! Shes lost a year of her life, she must be shadow of her former self.

[bots]

there is dirt in this story, it's so obvious

[Kizzy]

Well that's odd, where's the justice? Will it be investigated further?

[arista]

Well that's odd, where's the justice? Will it be investigated further?


Sadly Not.

[hijaxers]

Well that's odd, where's the justice? Will it be investigated further?

It all seems very shadey , with no justice at all :conf:

[bots]

they say they only had circumstantial evidence unfortunately

[Oliver_W]

It seemed like she wasn't the intended target, that it was part of an ongoing gang thing. Obviously that doesn't change the fact she deserves justice, but I don't know if gang-related crimes get handled differently to other crimes?

[Beso]

It's like jfk.

[Kizzy]

They convcited a guy for that didn't they?

[arista]

It seemed like she wasn't the intended target, that it was part of an ongoing gang thing. Obviously that doesn't change the fact she deserves justice, but I don't know if gang-related crimes get handled differently to other crimes?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasha_Johnson


Yes, a Person there
claims she was not the intended target.

[bots]

i think there was some inter family dispute going on, whatever happened it's left her seriously injured with no prospect of recovery

[thesheriff443]

There is a follow up story on this in the sun news paper if someone wants to post the link
There is a picture of her with part of her skull missing

[Kizzy]

There is a follow up story on this in the sun news paper if someone wants to post the link
There is a picture of her with part of her skull missing

If anyone posts that I'll report it ... you would have to be some twisted feck to want to see that no wonder it's in the sun (spit)

[arista]

That photo is on the Mail Site.

[Kizzy]

That photo is on the Mail Site.

That doesn't surprise me either.

[UserSince2005]

oh **** seen the photo she must have half a brain now.

[thesheriff443]

If anyone posts that I'll report it ... you would have to be some twisted feck to want to see that no wonder it's in the sun (spit)

It’s part of the of the story, she also lost an eye and is paralysed down the left side.

It may actually provoke someone into coming forward with evidence they need.

You don’t get to say what does and doesn’t get posted on tibb kizzy that’s in the news so stop with the amateur dramatics of threats of reporting members.

[Kizzy]

It’s part of the of the story, she also lost an eye and is paralysed down the left side.

It may actually provoke someone into coming forward with evidence they need.

You don’t get to say what does and doesn’t get posted on tibb kizzy that’s in the news so stop with the amateur dramatics of threats of reporting members.

If it's graphic I can report it, I don't want to see it. It's nothing persons I would report the image not you. Spoiler it and put a warning.
Still don't see why there's a need to show it. Seems like it's a warning for being black and vocal if you ask me.

How many other victims of violent crime are paraded on the pages of the sun and mail?

[thesheriff443]

If it's graphic I can report it, I don't want to see it. It's nothing persons I would report the image not you. Spoiler it and put a warning.
Still don't see why there's a need to show it. Seems like it's a warning for being black and vocal if you ask me.

How many other victims of violent crime are paraded on the pages of the sun and mail?

Now you are being silly , what’s worse? Showing a image that provokes outrage or pretending it didn’t happen

[Niamh.]

It’s part of the of the story, she also lost an eye and is paralysed down the left side.



It may actually provoke someone into coming forward with evidence they need.



You don’t get to say what does and doesn’t get posted on tibb kizzy that’s in the news so stop with the amateur dramatics of threats of reporting members.Graphic pictures like that aren't allowed, Kizzy is correct. People can Google it if they want to see it

[thesheriff443]

Graphic pictures like that aren't allowed, Kizzy is correct. People can Google it if they want to see it

I said post a link to the story not a photo and also gave a description of the photo so I’m not in the wrong .

[Niamh.]

I said post a link to the story not a photo and also gave a description of the photo so I’m not in the wrong .I was just referring to posting the actual photo here, a link to the story is fine [emoji106]

[Oliver_W]

So the case was dropped because there wasn't enough evidence to place the suspects at the scene...

Am I right in thinking that they can be re-arrested if more evidence comes to light, but if it was taken to court and they were found "not guilty", that would be it, no matter what else emerges?

[thesheriff443]

So the case was dropped because there wasn't enough evidence to place the suspects at the scene...

Am I right in thinking that they can be re-arrested if more evidence comes to light, but if it was taken to court and they were found "not guilty", that would be it, no matter what else emerges?

They scrapped the double jeopardy law which ment in the past if someone was found not guilty they couldn’t be tried again for the same crime, but that was for murder, I’m not sure if it’s the same for other crimes

[bots]

people can face retrial if further evidence comes to light. It's consistent with the approach taken to appeals against conviction.

It was the over reliance on circumstantial evidence that caused this trial to fail. We have had a lot of high profile cases that have subsequently been appealed successfully when based largely on circumstantial evidence, so prosecutors are reluctant to proceed without solid evidence

[Kizzy]

In these days of cctv and forensics I find it hard to be level there is no concrete evidence.

[bots]

i think there is dirty work involved, we are not being told the truth about it all

[Swan]

Over a year now, still no update on her condition. The four gang members seen to have got away with it too.

I imagine after that much brain damage she'll be in a permanent vegetative state.

[Alf]

Over a year now, still no update on her condition. The four gang members seen to have got away with it too.

I imagine after that much brain damage she'll be in a permanent vegetative state.Yeah, it's coming across like this is a Black life that doesn't matter. Unlike Georgie Floyd.

[Swan]

Yeah, it's coming across like this is a Black life that doesn't matter. Unlike Georgie Floyd.

I hate to say it but it seems like black lives only matter when they're taken by white people.

[UserSince2005]

She was a monster though, the venom she spat.

[hijaxers]

I hate to say it but it seems like black lives only matter when they're taken by white people.

Yes i agree and there is something very odd about all of this case :conf: