Meghan Markle's 'The Bench' becomes #1 New York Times bestseller

[Amy Jade]

https://archewell.com/news/thanks-to-you-the-bench-is-a-1-new-york-times-bestseller/

A cute present for Father's Day

In the UK it's also an Amazon bestseller at just 8.99

[GoldHeart]

Oh that's nice :)

[Elliot]

Purr

[Captain.Remy]

Congrats!

[Jordan.]

Another win for our Princess :flutter:

[Black Dagger]

She just keeps winning x

[Marsh.]

Beautiful.

[thesheriff443]

I read it didn’t make the top 50 over here.

[Liam-]

We love a successful woman

[DouglasS]

I read it didn’t make the top 50 over here.

Missed the top 50? :skull:

Damn I reckon she was expecting a lot better than that in the U.K. given the publicity/promotion and being a royal, kinda tanked here - no hate

[bots]

i fool and their money are easily parted .....

[Glenn.]

Such a successful queen :love:

[Swan]

I mean, if she had released this book before she got with Harry, it wouldn't have made the top 1000. But it's a clever move on her part, using her new found fame (off her husbands back) to make as much money as possible.

They're just the 'Beckhams' of this era. They're a franchise and whatever they do will make money. Good or bad.

[The Slim Reaper]

I mean, if she had released this book before she got with Harry, it wouldn't have made the top 1000. But it's a clever move on her part, using her new found fame (off her husbands back) to make as much money as possible.

They're just the 'Beckhams' of this era. They're a franchise and whatever they do will make money. Good or bad.

She was in a top ranked American TV show. Let's not act she was a receptionist at Mr smiths bicycle shop in Dagenham.

JK Rowling was on benefits when she wrote her books, and did ok without wedding a royal.

[rusticgal]

https://archewell.com/news/thanks-to-you-the-bench-is-a-1-new-york-times-bestseller/

A cute present for Father's Day

In the UK it's also an Amazon bestseller at just 8.99


Did your Dad enjoy it?

[Swan]

She was in a top ranked American TV show. Let's not act she was a receptionist at Mr smiths bicycle shop in Dagenham.

JK Rowling was on benefits when she wrote her books, and did ok without wedding a royal.

Her current 'one of the most known, talked about, and popular people in the world' is due to who she married, lets not kid ourselves.

Having said that, if it's a good story, then good luck to her. I pointed out before this is nothing new, lots of celebrity franchises branch out with a number of marketable ventures. I see this as a brand building exercise, again, nothing new.

[Glenn.]

People just love to hate her

[Swan]

People just love to hate her

Out of curiosity would you class what i said as 'hate' ?

[rusticgal]

https://archewell.com/news/thanks-to-you-the-bench-is-a-1-new-york-times-bestseller/

A cute present for Father's Day

In the UK it's also an Amazon bestseller at just 8.99


Its only £8.00 now....what did you pay Amy?

[rusticgal]

Out of curiosity would you class what i said as 'hate' ?


You didnt...and dont hold your breath for an answer :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

Out of curiosity would you class what i said as 'hate' ?

I'll answer - no.

However, if you spent all day, every thread saying weird stuff about what the best friend of her dog groomers uncles sisters niece supposedly said to the daily mail, then I'd say yes.

[arista]

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[Liam-]

1406627933561753604

What a wonderfully thoughtful gift :love:

[Amy Jade]

I read it didn’t make the top 50 over here.

Ah you read The Sun.

It's in the Amazon UK bestsellers list anyway so can't be doing too badly :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its not in the WH SMiths top 100

[Crimson Dynamo]

I just looked on Amazon

this is the top review (giving it 1 star)

Top reviews from United Kingdom
Becky Sharp
1.0 out of 5 stars Truly abysmal. Bad grammar, plodding laboured writing with meaning and style sacrificed for rhyme.
Reviewed in the United Kingdom on 8 June 2021
Verified Purchase
I love children's books for 4-8 year olds, they can be perfect, precise little
jewels of wit and colour and to fit a whole story with a beginning, middle and
satisfying end in that small number of pages is really a rare skill. A skill
which, unfortunately, Meghan Markle does not seem to possess.

I taught English for some years and this is exactly the sort of dull, uninspired
writing that makes teachers' hearts sink, which just plods from start to finish
with nothing to excite or engage a small child.

To whom is it meant to appeal? It doesn't seem to be aimed at children, and
is apparently based on a poem written by Meghan Markle for Prince Harry-
so not really a children's book at all- just a vanity project by the Duchess,
with Harry strangely respresented by a soldier in a US style army uniform
and forage cap,, even tho Harry left the army long before Archie was born
and was never in the US army.
And what does it even mean? How did life as a father start on a
bench....seriously..???? It just doesn't make sense, has no plot, no story and
nothing to appeal to children except possibly the illustrations which are
pleasant enough in a naive way, but the whole thing comes across as bland
and dull and pointless.

The whole thing is just a bit of a mess.
1,351 people found this helpful

[AnnieK]

People often give these gifts on a first Fathers / Mothers Day. I got the book "I Love You This Much" on my first Mother's Day. Its in my memory box now but it was a thoughtful gift.

[bots]

top 2 reviews on amazon in the usa ....

Reviewed in the United States on June 8, 2021
Verified Purchase
It's a tribute to fatherhood with an inclusive approach; however, definitely not a children's book and not worth the $18.99 - very short, mostly-pictures book of a not-so-stellar poem. Got it for my 5yr old and his father for father's day but it's not a nice enough gift, maybe it will peek someone's interest at the local Goodwill store.
1,289 people found this helpful
Helpful

1.0 out of 5 stars This book is bland. No characters, no story, no substance.
Reviewed in the United States on June 8, 2021
Verified Purchase
This book is bland. No characters, no story, no substance. This will boring for kids

[thesheriff443]

Ah you read The Sun.

It's in the Amazon UK bestsellers list anyway so can't be doing too badly :hee:

I read it online actually

[Amy Jade]

https://i.insider.com/60cd44b820bd1300181c7130?width=700

[Oliver_W]

Its not in the WH SMiths top 100

I read it didn’t make the top 50 over here.

I'm not sure exactly how it works, but the NYE Bestseller List isn't based purely on sales, but is at least a partially curated list of books.

[Amy Jade]

https://i.ibb.co/b142VCc/20210620-192046.jpg

[jet]

Meghan Markle reveals VERY lofty ideas for her new children's book The Bench claiming it could help 'model a new world'.

Hmmm, I don't think so. The ego! :joker::joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Meghan Markle reveals VERY lofty ideas for her new children's book The Bench claiming it could help 'model a new world'.

Hmmm, I don't think so. The ego! :joker::joker:

:joker:

you literally could not make it up Jet

[jet]

The Duchess of Sussex’s debut children’s book, The Bench, topped The New York Times Bestseller list for children’s picture books.
The way it's being portrayed you'd think it was top of every genre of book out there. :laugh:

[rusticgal]

Meghan Markle reveals VERY lofty ideas for her new children's book The Bench claiming it could help 'model a new world'.

Hmmm, I don't think so. The ego! :joker::joker:



Maybe Meghan thinks Harry is the only one to have this unique relationship with his son.....:laugh:

[Tom4784]

Good for her.

[Amy Jade]

https://i.ibb.co/7CTZm8V/20210620-194356.jpg

[jet]

It has since been slammed by critics as a 'vanity project', with The Telegraph's Claire Allfree calling it 'semi-literate'.

Ms Allfree wrote: 'One wonders how any publisher could have thought fit to publish this grammar-defying set of badly rhyming cod homilies, let alone think any child anywhere would want to read it. But that's planet Sussex for you, where even the business of raising a family is all about the brand.'

It was brought out in time to capitalise on Fathers Day, it will sink in a week imo.

[Swan]

The Duchess of Sussex’s debut children’s book, The Bench, topped The New York Times Bestseller list for children’s picture books.
The way it's being portrayed you'd think it was top of every genre of book out there. :laugh:

Good on the illustrator.

The story sells better without that bit of key information though. I don't read the rags, but i read this forum, and you see a lot people saying how the media are reaching. They certainly are in this case, agreed.

[Jordan.]

https://i.ibb.co/7CTZm8V/20210620-194356.jpg

Stunning and successful :flutter:

[Glenn.]

https://i.ibb.co/7CTZm8V/20210620-194356.jpg

Beautiful :love:

[Marsh.]

Stunning AND healthy looking. :love:

[joeysteele]

I'm pleased it's a success.
That's all that matters.

[Amy Jade]

wow amazon can barely keep up

https://i.ibb.co/dQysTzQ/20210620-225406.jpg

[Parmy]

wow amazon can barely keep up

https://i.ibb.co/dQysTzQ/20210620-225406.jpg

Children's books............of family.life...


Sounds like the best mr or little miss section, in the children's book category list...one for the stragglers to compete in.

[GoldHeart]

She was in a top ranked American TV show. Let's not act she was a receptionist at Mr smiths bicycle shop in Dagenham.

JK Rowling was on benefits when she wrote her books, and did ok without wedding a royal.

Exactly
Anyone would think Meghan was a homeless girl Harry saved from the streets or something :joker:, she was already successful . She just has more exposure that's all.

[AnnieK]

Kate's book is a number 1 bestseller in photography collections and exhibitions.

Both Duchesses have done well in their specific genres. I don't get why anyone criticises someone for achieving something that they set out to do.

[rusticgal]

wow amazon can barely keep up

https://i.ibb.co/dQysTzQ/20210620-225406.jpg



They all do this to try and make you buy....don’t fall for it :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

They all do this to try and make you buy....don’t fall for it :laugh:

Basic marketing..

[jet]

She was in a top ranked American TV show. Let's not act she was a receptionist at Mr smiths bicycle shop in Dagenham.

JK Rowling was on benefits when she wrote her books, and did ok without wedding a royal.

JK Rowling didn't need to marry a royal to sell her books, she had talent.
:laugh:

[jet]

wow amazon can barely keep up

https://i.ibb.co/dQysTzQ/20210620-225406.jpg


The Bench has dropped more than 95 places in little over a week, with the retail giant slashing the price by almost 40 per cent.
The Telegraph.

:hehe:

[Barry.]

She’s 74 in top 10 in all books, not bad, still top 100

[Glenn.]

Kate's book is a number 1 bestseller in photography collections and exhibitions.

Both Duchesses have done well in their specific genres. I don't get why anyone criticises someone for achieving something that they set out to do.

Hilarious isn’t it

[Ammi]

Kate's book is a number 1 bestseller in photography collections and exhibitions.

Both Duchesses have done well in their specific genres. I don't get why anyone criticises someone for achieving something that they set out to do.

…yeah well done both of them for their achievement…:love:…they’re both best sellers in their genre…Charlie Mackesy’s first children’s picture book, The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse is one of the best selling books of recent times and one that is used in schools a lot…I also have a copy which was bought as a gift as it has some excellent life quotes that are both child and adult inspiring….and also some wonderful illustrations…

[AnnieK]

…yeah well done both of them for their achievement…:love:…they’re both best sellers in their genre…Charlie Mackesy’s first children’s picture book, The Boy, the Mole, the Fox and the Horse is one of the best selling books of recent times and one that is used in schools a lot…I also have a copy which was bought as a gift as it has some excellent life quotes that are both child and adult inspiring….and also some wonderful illustrations…

Aw that book was used during the last home schooling session for Matthew. The whole school studied it during mental health week.

[Ammi]

Aw that book was used during the last home schooling session for Matthew. The whole school studied it during mental health week.

…yeah totally, that’s one that is used in schools a lot and also in hospitals when children are going through difficult and challenging times…the value of children’s books in general and children’s picture books also is not to be underestimated …

[thesheriff443]

It’s a child’s picture book based on a poem not some epic piece of literature

It’s nothing more than a money making exercise taking advantage of the situation of being in the media.

We will see more books and more vertures to make as much money as possible while they are seen as people of interest.

[user104658]

It’s a child’s picture book based on a poem not some epic piece of literature

It’s nothing more than a money making exercise taking advantage of the situation of being in the media.

We will see more books and more vertures to make as much money as possible while they are seen as people of interest.

Do you consider the above to be immoral?

[thesheriff443]

Do you consider the above to be immoral?

Definitely not, I don’t begrudge them earning any amount of money it’s just the false sentiments that goes with it like saying she hopes the book will change the world.

Let’s be honest we could all write a Children’s book, you only have to look in the poets hut thread to know tibb is far from short when it comes to creativity.

[thesheriff443]

The sheriff and toy soldier will still be here at the end
No matter what the thread or the latest trend
We will never break but only slightly start to bend
Who will be here when tibb comes to its final end

[Livia]

My in-laws sent the children this book. I'm not a fan of Meghan but it's a sweet little book although nothing extraordinary. I mean, it's not The Gruffalo.

[user104658]

The sheriff and toy soldier will still be here at the end
No matter what the thread or the latest trend
We will never break but only slightly start to bend
Who will be here when tibb comes to its final end

We all know Arista will be last man standing. He'll still be posting the front pages when there are no other members.

[user104658]

My in-laws sent the children this book. I'm not a fan of Meghan but it's a sweet little book although nothing extraordinary. I mean, it's not The Gruffalo.

Julia Donaldson is great but I have to say, The Gruffalo started to get a bit old after the 250th read. I lean more towards Highway Rat, or perhaps Tiddler.

[Livia]

Julia Donaldson is great but I have to say, The Gruffalo started to get a bit old after the 250th read. I lean more towards Highway Rat, or perhaps Tiddler.

Oh I'm nowhere near 250.... I will have to check out your alternatives for when I am.

[Niamh.]

Julia Donaldson is great but I have to say, The Gruffalo started to get a bit old after the 250th read. I lean more towards Highway Rat, or perhaps Tiddler.

I reckon I still know the whole book off by heart from when my 21 year old daughter was a toddler :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

lol I remember after like the third book I used to point and say "is that a moth?" and then like skip 2 pages forward and then start reading again to speed things up. But eventually, i got caught out and the brats got wise to my cunning ruse:p

[Parmy]

It only stayed there for a week, which Indicates to me thay she bought 1000s of copies herself.

[Amy Jade]

It only stayed there for a week, which Indicates to me thay she bought 1000s of copies herself.

it still got there, which is an achievement.

[Parmy]

it still got there, which is an achievement.

It only got there cause she bought 1000s of books herself.

[rusticgal]

It only got there cause she bought 1000s of books herself.



:laugh:

[Captain.Remy]

How nice of her fans to keep track of her achievements. I've wanted to look at the rankings this week but I don't need to anymore. :love: Successful queen.

[Crimson Dynamo]

how nice of her fans to keep track of her achievements. I've wanted to look at the rankings this week but i don't need to anymore. :love: Successful queen.

are france people remotely interested in ex royals?

[Captain.Remy]

are france people remotely interested in ex royals?

You mean French people?
Yes they are.

[The Slim Reaper]

It's weirder that the picts would be constantly defending the existing English Monarchy :smug:

[Glenn.]

It only got there cause she bought 1000s of books herself.

I love how close you are to Meghan personally to know she did this.

[bots]

it's common marketing tactics to artificially boost the sales to try and get inertia on future sales

[Parmy]

I love how close you are to Meghan personally to know she did this.

She did do it, and she distributed them to schools and charity foundations.

[Parmy]

It's weirder that the picts would be constantly defending the existing English Monarchy :smug:

Cause everyone of a certain race are all the same yeah?

[The Slim Reaper]

Cause everyone of a certain race are all the same yeah?

If you believe pict is a race, then sure.

[Amy Jade]

imagine being so pressed at a woman's success you accuse her of buying her own book with zero proof.

It's just pitiful.

[Tom4784]

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[Gstar]

Khia get money.gif

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's sad when people have to make things up to justify their weird hatred.

It's not and there is no weird hatred

It's a shut down tactic

And by God it's an old tired one

[Josy]

Well done to her

[Ammi]

…it’s a father/child picture book and released for Father’s Day when the sales would be very high at that time I would say …because it would have been bought as a specific Father’s Day gift….I would imagine that a drop and settling in those initial sales would have been expected then…it’s still at number 4 with the New York Times best sellers for its category, which is still pretty excellent…

[Captain.Remy]

…it’s a father/child picture book and released for Father’s Day when the sales would be very high at that time I would say …because it would have been bought as a specific Father’s Day gift….I would imagine that a drop and settling in those initial sales would have been expected then…it’s still at number 4 with the New York Times best sellers for its category, which is still pretty excellent…

Common sense. Thank you Ammi.

[thesheriff443]

Well done to her

Hello mummy goose

When are we going to get an update thread from you about your bundle of joy

[Parmy]

imagine being so pressed at a woman's success you accuse her of buying her own book with zero proof.

It's just pitiful.

She has said it herself.

[Tom4784]

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[Marsh.]

A shut down tactic? It's called an opinion, perhaps you should try growing up and growing a backbone if you can't handle an opinion you dislike and act like it's existence somehow limits your own freedom of speech (which proven by the fact you responded, shows that claim to be full of ****).

.

[jet]

It's not and there is no weird hatred

It's a shut down tactic

And by God it's an old tired one

:clap1:

[Captain.Remy]

A shut down tactic? It's called an opinion, perhaps you should try growing up and growing a backbone if you can't handle an opinion you dislike and act like it's existence somehow limits your own freedom of speech (which proven by the fact you responded, shows that claim to be full of ****).

Shots fired
https://media.giphy.com/media/ZdUS0jXoAlkLpYXNsz/giphy.gif

[Parmy]

It's sad when people have to make things up to justify their weird hatred.

It's not made up..its a fact.

[Amy Jade]

Was the book still a #1 Best seller?

[Captain.Remy]

It's not made up..its a fact.

According to?

[Josy]

Hello mummy goose



When are we going to get an update thread from you about your bundle of joyI posted an update thread in the private section

[Tom4784]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

His imagination.

https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-donates-2000-copies-childrens-book-across-america/

[Ammi]

…it’s a very charitable thing to do, to donate books to libraries/schools etc rather than them having to budget for them…there’ll be many establishments that she’s donated ….many authors donate books but those aren’t ‘best sellers’ because they never sold so won’t contribute toward the book’s sales figures…I think that it was Lady Colin Campbell who made that suggestion who is a well known Meghan detractor…and seems to fantasise many things…

[Marsh.]

Donating books is not "buying her own".

[Ammi]

…lovely article about her donations anyway…


"The Duchess believes the path ahead must include a focus on well-being,"

[Parmy]

Donating books is not "buying her own".

She bought them, and that is then the charities donation, she now gets to keep all the cash herself from the rest of the sales.

[Crimson Dynamo]

She bought them, and that is then the charities donation, she now gets to keep all the cash herself from the rest of the sales.

exactly parm someone has to pay

facts is facts

:smug:

[Marsh.]

She bought them, and that is then the charities donation, she now gets to keep all the cash herself from the rest of the sales.

She and the publisher donated them.

I know you're CRAVING dirt but trying in anyway to make a good deed like this come across as a negative says a lot about you, and nothing about her.

[Parmy]

She and the publisher donated them.

I know you're CRAVING dirt but trying in anyway to make a good deed like this come across as a negative says a lot about you, and nothing about her.

"Archewell is partnering with nonprofit First Book to distribute the books around the country"



Look into american laws regarding charitable donations.

She can now keep 95 percent of the sales for herself now that shes donated 5 percent of the product.

[Parmy]

Not such the charitable queen she would have you believe.

[Captain.Remy]

I see we now shame people who donate books :skull: That is a new low, even for TIBB

[Crimson Dynamo]

I see we now shame people who donate books :skull: That is a new low, even for TIBB

if its a cynical PR exercise yes

surely you would too?

[Parmy]

It's a cynical tax dodge involving the profits of the book.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's a cynical tax dodge involving the profits of the book.

Parm everything this awful woman does is cynical

[Jordan.]

https://people.com/royals/meghan-markle-donates-2000-copies-childrens-book-across-america/

Very sweet and generous, but that's our Meghan :love:

[Ammi]

…there is nothing cynical about her actions, only a choice to interpret as cynical…

In a statement posted to their Archewell website, Harry and Meghan announced: "The Duchess and Archewell have received the support of the publisher of The Bench to distribute 2,000 copies at no cost to libraries, community centres, schools, and non-profit programs across the country.

"Those receiving free copies include vital organisations like Assistance League of Los Angeles, which has served the local community for more than 100 years and which The Duke and Duchess visited twice last year to spend time with the children at the organisation’s Preschool Learning Center.

"To make this happen, Archewell is working with the team at First Book, a non-profit social enterprise that’s distributed more than 200 million books and educational resources to programs and schools serving kids in low-income communities in the United States and Canada. Reaching an average of 5 million kids per year, the First Book Network operates in classrooms, after-school programs, libraries, community programs, military support programs, and more."

The plan is part of Meghan's desire to help "nourish" local communities in various ways.

The Archewell statement explained: "As Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex’s debut children’s book, 'The Bench', releases worldwide, she and her husband, Prince Harry, along with all of us at Archewell are taking a moment to recognise and support the amazing changemakers who are fostering community, compassion, and connection for every child.

"After more than a year of unprecedented challenges for schoolkids and families everywhere, The Duchess believes the path ahead must include a focus on well-being—and nourishing our communities through food, education, and emotional and mental health support.

"At Archewell, that is often centered on food and essential needs (as evidenced by our partnership with organisations like World Central Kitchen) but also nourishment through learning and connection (as seen in The Duchess’s support of last year’s Save With Stories initiative to raise funds for educational resources like books, toys, and worksheets)."


https://www.femalefirst.co.uk/royal_family/meghan-duchess-sussex-donates-2000-books-1303082.html

[Marsh.]

…there is nothing cynical about her actions, only a choice to interpret as cynical…

Yep, it comes from a lot of assumption that people think the way they do.

[jet]

Meghan got an advance of 250,000 to 500,000 dollars for a book of verses she wrote that have been described by some reviewers as ‘semi - literate’ and which someone else illustrated. It was a commercial enterprise to line her own pocket, not a charitable one.
She talks a lot of hot air about ‘nourishing communities’ and ‘one act of compassion at a time’ and other empty platitudes but doesn’t do any, you know, actual WORK on the ground or follow her own preaching. She’s all profitable talk, publicity stunts and very little action. Smart and sly enough to reel certain poeple in, hook, line and sinker. She knows her target audience. Fair play, I suppose, for as long as her shelf life lasts.

[Ammi]

…the media really don’t know at all any of the details of a book deal…those are personal things that would have been agreed to stay personal, I would say…it’s all just the same old/same old speculation… ‘ the Duchess is likely to have already secured £500,000 for the venture’…. ‘It is not officially known whether Meghan received an advance for the book from the publishers, Penguin Random House LLC.’….’but an ‘expert’ has suggested’…etc, etc…the irony of the tabloids taking a critical stance with anyone else’s writing style is just too much and too funny when so much of theirs is just the power of suggestion and word manipulation into the articles that they would like to be writing so just suggest them as possible articles instead…


…anyways, all a great result for Meghan and hopefully more books from her in the future…

[thesheriff443]

They need to find 250 thousand a year for the equivalent of council tax.

They want other people’s money for the charity not their own all the time promoting themselves has saints

[thesheriff443]

Of course there will be more books and any thing else that can turn a profit.

[Tom4784]

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[GoldHeart]

Of course there will be more books and any thing else that can turn a profit.

And ?

[Captain.Remy]

Yeah, donating books is not the same as buying them to bolster sales. Trying to make out that they're the same is just spreading ignorance and misinformation to validate a bizarre hatred of a celebrity couple who has no impact on our lives.



HOW DARE SHE MAKE A LIVING! WHO DOES SHE THINK SHE IS?!

Again, bizarre hatred. Hating someone for having a career is ****ing bizarre and quite unhinged. It just makes no sense.

I wake up and log in just to see Dezzy commenting :love: Makes my day.

[Marsh.]

I wake up and log in just to see Dezzy commenting :love: Makes my day.

:clap1:

[Marsh.]

Of course there will be more books and any thing else that can turn a profit.

Omg people don't make books FOR FREE?

How selfish of them.

[jet]

Meghan's uncle talks about her estrangement from HER father....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9744545/Meghan-Markles-proud-ex-diplomat-uncle-Mike-dies-aged-82.html
09:05, 1 July 2021

Meghan Markle's ex-diplomat uncle Michael has died at the age of 82 without 'ever meeting Prince Harry', it has been reported.

Michael Markle - who was known as Mike and is the older brother of Meghan's father Thomas - had been battling Parkinson's disease and had suffered falls in recent years.
'Mike was a lovely, gentle, softly spoken old man,' a source told The Sun. 'He was always happy to be asked about Meghan, but whenever he spoke to anyone he mainly wanted to talk about his late wife - he loved her so much.'
After his wife passed away, Mike is believed to have moved from his home in Oregon to be closer to his daughter where, despite his illness, he maintained his independence living in a trailer community, according to a source…..

Mike used his influence to secure Meghan a prestigious internship as a junior press officer at the American embassy in Argentina when she was 20 and considering a career in international relations….

'Meghan has climbed socially and left us behind — that's how I feel,' said Mike. 'I think that's what happens when you're 'underclass' and trying to rise above
the reality of your situation.'

Coming from her background, she may have a chip on her shoulder,' he said of Meghan. 'It could be that that's part of the problem she's having with her sister-in-law. Meghan is immature in some ways.
'I feel that because of the way she acts — not only towards family members, but other people.'


He also went on to blame Meghan's father for her strong character.
'It could be that she's bossy towards staff because she's been spoilt by my brother,' Mike said. 'He doted on her a lot — more than he did his other children…..
Mike tried nudging Meghan to reopen communication with her dad when he told the Express in 2020: “Meghan famously said, 'Not many people have asked if I'm OK.’ She would do well in this time of a genuine crisis to ask her dad if he is OK.
"People of my age and Tom's are dying due to the virus. There's nothing wrong with being courteous.

"It's about time she should try to mend any differences she has with family before it is too late. I think that she should be in touch with her dad."

I couldn’t agree more. So much for her book the Bench honouring fathers everywhere.

[Captain.Remy]

Her relationship with her father is nobody's business but their own.

And also: the Daily Mail as a source? Really? in 2021?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Her relationship with her father is nobody's business but their own.

And also: the Daily Mail as a source? Really? in 2021?

they are direct quoting

:facepalm:

[The Slim Reaper]

Coming from her background, she may have a chip on her shoulder,'

I'm guessing he isn't from her mothers side of the family.

[jet]

Her relationship with her father is nobody's business but their own.

And also: the Daily Mail as a source? Really? in 2021?

Are you implying that her uncle hasn't died? It didn't originate in the DM, its in all the dailys. :hee:
Head over to the Britney thread now and tell them her relationship with her father is nobody's business but their own. See you there!

[user104658]

Are you implying that her uncle hasn't died? It didn't originate in the DM, its in all the dailys. :hee:
Head over to the Britney thread now and tell them her relationship with her father is nobody's business but their own. See you there!

You are confused. When people say "it's no one's business but their own" what they really mean is "we should believe what these people are saying, and not make up our own narrative".

People believe Britney when she talks about her relationship with her family.

People believe Meghan when she talks about her relationship with her family.

There is no contradiction.

[Livia]

You are confused. When people say "it's no one's business but their own" what they really mean is "we should believe what these people are saying, and not make up our own narrative".

SOME People believe Britney when she talks about her relationship with her family.

SOME People believe Meghan when she talks about her relationship with her family.

There is no contradiction.

Corrected for you, TS x

[jet]

Corrected for you, TS x

:thumbs:

[user104658]

Corrected for you, TS x

Redundant correction Livia; "People believe" doesn't imply "all people believe", just "more than one person believes".

[Amy Jade]

Meghan's uncle talks about her estrangement from HER father....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9744545/Meghan-Markles-proud-ex-diplomat-uncle-Mike-dies-aged-82.html
09:05, 1 July 2021

Meghan Markle's ex-diplomat uncle Michael has died at the age of 82 without 'ever meeting Prince Harry', it has been reported.

Michael Markle - who was known as Mike and is the older brother of Meghan's father Thomas - had been battling Parkinson's disease and had suffered falls in recent years.
'Mike was a lovely, gentle, softly spoken old man,' a source told The Sun. 'He was always happy to be asked about Meghan, but whenever he spoke to anyone he mainly wanted to talk about his late wife - he loved her so much.'
After his wife passed away, Mike is believed to have moved from his home in Oregon to be closer to his daughter where, despite his illness, he maintained his independence living in a trailer community, according to a source…..

Mike used his influence to secure Meghan a prestigious internship as a junior press officer at the American embassy in Argentina when she was 20 and considering a career in international relations….

'Meghan has climbed socially and left us behind — that's how I feel,' said Mike. 'I think that's what happens when you're 'underclass' and trying to rise above
the reality of your situation.'

Coming from her background, she may have a chip on her shoulder,' he said of Meghan. 'It could be that that's part of the problem she's having with her sister-in-law. Meghan is immature in some ways.
'I feel that because of the way she acts — not only towards family members, but other people.'


He also went on to blame Meghan's father for her strong character.
'It could be that she's bossy towards staff because she's been spoilt by my brother,' Mike said. 'He doted on her a lot — more than he did his other children…..
Mike tried nudging Meghan to reopen communication with her dad when he told the Express in 2020: “Meghan famously said, 'Not many people have asked if I'm OK.’ She would do well in this time of a genuine crisis to ask her dad if he is OK.
"People of my age and Tom's are dying due to the virus. There's nothing wrong with being courteous.

"It's about time she should try to mend any differences she has with family before it is too late. I think that she should be in touch with her dad."

I couldn’t agree more. So much for her book the Bench honouring fathers everywhere.

What does any of this have to do with Meghan becoming a NYT Best Selling author or donating her highly successful book to needy kids?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4C1QIGWEAEKVaN.jpg

[Jordan.]

Her uncle died so let's pretend we care and honour his life by highlighting that time he slagged his niece off

[jet]

You are confused. When people say "it's no one's business but their own" what they really mean is "we should believe what these people are saying, and not make up our own narrative".

People believe Britney when she talks about her relationship with her family.

People believe Meghan when she talks about her relationship with her family.

There is no contradiction.

It's only more than one person saying it, right? No confusion. :hee:

[user104658]

It's only more than one person saying it, right? No confusion. :hee:

Yes jet a noun ("people") without a preceding adjective ("some", "all", "many") does not imply any adjective and the meaning can be taken from context.

Welcome to the magical world of high-school grade English I guess :joker:. So much to learn and so little time?

[Captain.Remy]

they are direct quoting

:facepalm:

It's the Daily Mail in general, LT. And it wouldn't be a novelty for people to make things up from "direct quoting". Just saying.

[bots]

one always finds it a hoot when the grammar police appear with a flourish from the woodwork

[Niamh.]

one always finds it a hoot when the grammar police appear with a flourish from the woodwork

tbf TS didn't really start that.......

[jet]

I'm guessing he isn't from her mothers side of the family.

Not on this occasion. :hee:
Family members from her mothers side have spoken in the past of how hurt they were at not being invited to the wedding and not hearing from Meghan since she became a celeb.

[Captain.Remy]

Are you implying that her uncle hasn't died? It didn't originate in the DM, its in all the dailys. :hee:
Head over to the Britney thread now and tell them her relationship with her father is nobody's business but their own. See you there!

Two completely different contexts. There is a trial in the case of Britney regarding her conservatorship
In Meghan's case, people like to toss this story around, hear "sources" or believe whatever they can find because they just like gossip. There are two sides to every story and their personal relationship is, once again, none of our business.

Now the fact that she became NYT Best Selling author is relevant and I'm not sure how that article about her uncle was any relevant to what this thread is about. But go off I guess.

[rusticgal]

Meghan's uncle talks about her estrangement from HER father....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9744545/Meghan-Markles-proud-ex-diplomat-uncle-Mike-dies-aged-82.html
09:05, 1 July 2021

Meghan Markle's ex-diplomat uncle Michael has died at the age of 82 without 'ever meeting Prince Harry', it has been reported.

Michael Markle - who was known as Mike and is the older brother of Meghan's father Thomas - had been battling Parkinson's disease and had suffered falls in recent years.
'Mike was a lovely, gentle, softly spoken old man,' a source told The Sun. 'He was always happy to be asked about Meghan, but whenever he spoke to anyone he mainly wanted to talk about his late wife - he loved her so much.'
After his wife passed away, Mike is believed to have moved from his home in Oregon to be closer to his daughter where, despite his illness, he maintained his independence living in a trailer community, according to a source…..

Mike used his influence to secure Meghan a prestigious internship as a junior press officer at the American embassy in Argentina when she was 20 and considering a career in international relations….

'Meghan has climbed socially and left us behind — that's how I feel,' said Mike. 'I think that's what happens when you're 'underclass' and trying to rise above
the reality of your situation.'

Coming from her background, she may have a chip on her shoulder,' he said of Meghan. 'It could be that that's part of the problem she's having with her sister-in-law. Meghan is immature in some ways.
'I feel that because of the way she acts — not only towards family members, but other people.'


He also went on to blame Meghan's father for her strong character.
'It could be that she's bossy towards staff because she's been spoilt by my brother,' Mike said. 'He doted on her a lot — more than he did his other children…..
Mike tried nudging Meghan to reopen communication with her dad when he told the Express in 2020: “Meghan famously said, 'Not many people have asked if I'm OK.’ She would do well in this time of a genuine crisis to ask her dad if he is OK.
"People of my age and Tom's are dying due to the virus. There's nothing wrong with being courteous.

"It's about time she should try to mend any differences she has with family before it is too late. I think that she should be in touch with her dad."

I couldn’t agree more. So much for her book the Bench honouring fathers everywhere.



Yup....she preaches family values but fails to practise what she preaches. It seems very apparent her father did everything for her up until she didnt need him anymore....

[rusticgal]

What does any of this have to do with Meghan becoming a NYT Best Selling author or donating her highly successful book to needy kids?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4C1QIGWEAEKVaN.jpg



Best selling PICTURE book....all credit to the Illustrator. :laugh:

[GoldHeart]

As I've said before I doubt this would get bashed & nitpicked if it was Kate Middleton releasing a children's book :whistle:.

[Crimson Dynamo]

As I've said before I doubt this would get bashed & nitpicked if it was Kate Middleton releasing a children's book :whistle:.

kate is a lovely woman

[Parmy]

Best selling PICTURE book....all credit to the Illustrator. :laugh:

:joker:

[GoldHeart]

kate is a lovely woman

Ok sprite shame you can't see the point I was making :hee:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ok sprite shame you can't see the point I was making :hee:

i did but you missed mine

:hee:

[Marsh.]

A bunch of random people still pretending they know this woman's life more than she knows herself.

[Ammi]

…I did see that The Bench has gone up again to #2 bestseller on the NYT list for its category from its #4 a few days ago so Amy’s thread impact, I reckon…:flutter:….

[Captain.Remy]

Best selling PICTURE book....all credit to the Illustrator. :laugh:

Authors and illustrators work together to create the finished product.
It's not a process where the author sends it and is done with it, then the illustrator picks it up and does their work. It's a common effort and vision to make a picture book happen.
So no, not all credit goes to the illustrator.

[jet]

As I've said before I doubt this would get bashed & nitpicked if it was Kate Middleton releasing a children's book :whistle:.

It really wasn't good, apart from the illustrations. I don't think a child would appreciate it.:shrug:

Kate's book "Hold Still" went to No. 1 on Amazon the day it was released. She didn't need a thread in which she was lauded as "Queen" or silly comments made like "purr". Her work spoke for itself.

Meghan's book did well despite what it was, however.

[jet]

Authors and illustrators work together to create the finished product.
It's not a process where the author sends it and is done with it, then the illustrator picks it up and does their work. It's a common effort and vision to make a picture book happen.
So no, not all credit goes to the illustrator.

In this case the majority of it does imo. :shrug:

[Marsh.]

Authors and illustrators work together to create the finished product.
It's not a process where the author sends it and is done with it, then the illustrator picks it up and does their work. It's a common effort and vision to make a picture book happen.
So no, not all credit goes to the illustrator.

Oh ignore the pathetic whining. If Meghan had illustrated it, they wouldn't like the pictures either. :crazy:

[bots]

if there is 1 page of writing to 20 pages of pictures, then the content is primarily pictures and vice versa. I have no idea what the proportions are, but thats how it would be judged under what category it falls

[Captain.Remy]

In this case the majority of it does imo. :shrug:

In your opinion or based on the contract they have signed that I am certain you have read before having an opinion?

[Ammi]

Authors and illustrators work together to create the finished product.
It's not a process where the author sends it and is done with it, then the illustrator picks it up and does their work. It's a common effort and vision to make a picture book happen.
So no, not all credit goes to the illustrator.

…:love:…yeah this is how a children’s picture book works, Meghan chose the illustrator, she isn’t an illustrator/a drawing artist herself but she knew her vision to bring her book/poems to life and chose the person to do that and they worked together to create The Bench…

[jet]

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/meghan-markle-has-written-a-children-s-book-it-s-awful-1.4588508

Irish Times Rosita Boland
Meghan Markle has written a children’s book. It’s awful.
The Bench apparently began as a message to Harry. It should have stayed between them.

.....The worst crimes of all are contorted lines that don’t scan and rhymes that don’t rhyme.

“He’ll feel happiness, sorrow
One day be heartbroken.
You’ll tell him ‘I love you’
Those words always spoken.”

Those words always spoken? Who speaks like that? Nobody does. Simple stories for children should not butcher a language they are trying to learn. Picture books should help children to read, and use the words they hear around them, not put things back to front in a poor effort at forcing a nonexistent rhyme.

Endings in picture books are incredibly important. They wrap up the story. They reassure. Sometimes they amuse. Ideally, they make a child want to read the story again, or have it read to them. This is the ending of The Bench, spread over no fewer than six pages, with two sets of ellipses:

“Right there on your bench
The place you’ll call home…
With daddy and son…
Where you’ll never be ’lone.”

Where you’ll never be ’lone? Does Meghan mean “alone”? Why change the word? It’s not even as if chopping off a character makes some awful rhyme. It does nothing. The book ends with a word that isn’t a proper word, which I guess is kind of fitting, as it’s not a proper picture book....
..............

Seriously now....:laugh:

[Marsh.]

Irish Times "writer" talks butchering a language.

:joker:

Poems don't always rhyme. Did he do GCSE English?

[user104658]

How many awful kids books have I read? Literally dozens.

How many of those had journalists shaking their fists in the air and declaring damage to children's learning of language?

Not a single one :joker:.

She's not a writer! She's not a professional children's author, nor (as far as I'm aware) does she claim to be one... she just wrote a little book and decided to publish it. The outrage is hilarious (but totally on-brand, of course).

[Niamh.]

Irish Times "writer" talks butchering a language.

:joker:

Poems don't always rhyme. Did he do GCSE English?

We don't have GCSEs in Ireland :oh:

[AnnieK]

It really wasn't good, apart from the illustrations. I don't think a child would appreciate it.:shrug:

Kate's book "Hold Still" went to No. 1 on Amazon the day it was released. She didn't need a thread in which she was lauded as "Queen" or silly comments made like "purr". Her work spoke for itself.

Meghan's book did well despite what it was, however.

To be fair, Kate's book contained photographs submitted by others and then Kate and a team of experts selected the best ones. It wasn't really "her" work but endorsed by her and bearing her name to aide the sales of the book for a worthy cause that is close to her heart. She was not solely responsible for any of the content.

Meghan's book is what it is, I still maintain it is more of a keepsake than something you would read over and over to your child. There are many books like this out there. :shrug:

[Marsh.]

We don't have GCSEs in Ireland :oh:

:hehe:

[user104658]

To be fair, Kate's book contained photographs submitted by others and then Kate and a team of experts selected the best ones. It wasn't really "her" work but endorsed by her and bearing her name to aide the sales of the book for a worthy cause that is close to her heart. She was not solely responsible for any of the content.

Meghan's book is what it is, I still maintain it is more of a keepsake than something you would read over and over to your child. There are many books like this out there. :shrug:

It seems more like a gift you would get for sentimental first-time parents than for the child itself, but there's nothing wrong with that :shrug:. I mean a crash helmet and some earplugs would be more practical in the long run but we can't take away from that starry-eyed "early parenthood" experience :laugh:. It's nice finding the box of baby stuff every few years and remembering the cosy baby days.

[Captain.Remy]

How many awful kids books have I read? Literally dozens.

How many of those had journalists shaking their fists in the air and declaring damage to children's learning of language?

Not a single one :joker:.

She's not a writer! She's not a professional children's author, nor (as far as I'm aware) does she claim to be one... she just wrote a little book and decided to publish it. The outrage is hilarious (but totally on-brand, of course).

Here we go. She doesn't aim at the Nobel Prize in Literature and people act as if it's in the running for high level prizes :laugh: It's a book for children :shrug:

[user104658]

Here we go. She doesn't aim at the Nobel Prize in Literature and people act as if it's in the running for high level prizes :laugh: It's a book for children :shrug:

The idea seems to be "if you can't write the best book ever, don't bother trying to write a book". Which is really a quite sad idea...

[Niamh.]

The idea seems to be "if you can't write the best book ever, don't bother trying to write a book". Which is really a quite sad idea...

_lK4cX5xGiQ

[AnnieK]

It seems more like a gift you would get for sentimental first-time parents than for the child itself, but there's nothing wrong with that :shrug:. I mean a crash helmet and some earplugs would be more practical in the long run but we can't take away from that starry-eyed "early parenthood" experience :laugh:. It's nice finding the box of baby stuff every few years and remembering the cosy baby days.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

I was bought "I Love You This Much" on my first Mother's Day - I never once read it to me son, but it's in his memory box.

[jet]

I never liked Celebs putting out over priced stuff that is pretty crap to get people to part with their hard earned cash to line their already well filled pockets. If they are going to capitalize on their name, at least have the respect for their fans to give them something worthy that they are GOOD at. In Meghan’s case “A Grifters Guide On How To Discard Those Who Are No Longer Of Use To You” perhaps? :hee:
Lets face it, Meghan’s book wouldn’t have sold a few dozen copies if it didn’t have the name The Duchess of Sussex on the cover and the big publicity push that went with it. It’s release was very cynically well timed too - Father’s Day; just had a new baby etc.
Can’t abide that kind of brazen cash grubbing exploitation of poor material (at least the illustrations were nice) but its par for the course here. JMO.

[jet]

_lK4cX5xGiQ

:joker: Love Tenacious D.

[Glenn.]

How lovely for her to give this to the world :flutter:

[Marsh.]

I never liked Celebs putting out over priced stuff that is pretty crap to get people to part with their hard earned cash to line their already well filled pockets. If they are going to capitalize on their name, at least have the respect for their fans to give them something worthy that they are GOOD at. In Meghan’s case “A Grifters Guide On How To Discard Those Who Are No Longer Of Use To You” perhaps? :hee:
Lets face it, Meghan’s book wouldn’t have sold a few dozen copies if it didn’t have the name The Duchess of Sussex on the cover and the big publicity push that went with it. It’s release was very cynically well timed too - Father’s Day; just had a new baby etc.
Can’t abide that kind of brazen cash grubbing exploitation of poor material (at least the illustrations were nice) but its par for the course here. JMO.

All this butthurt over a children's book about a bench. :laugh2:

"Meghan releases children's book based on her own kids and their father around the time she has a kid shocker and promotes the father related book on Father's Day OF ALL DAYS !!!"

[GoldHeart]

To be fair, Kate's book contained photographs submitted by others and then Kate and a team of experts selected the best ones. It wasn't really "her" work but endorsed by her and bearing her name to aide the sales of the book for a worthy cause that is close to her heart. She was not solely responsible for any of the content.

Meghan's book is what it is, I still maintain it is more of a keepsake than something you would read over and over to your child. There are many books like this out there. :shrug:

Yeah interesting

You'd think both Kate & Meghan would be supported in these projects then , but no such luck .

[jet]

All this butthurt over a children's book about a bench. :laugh2:

"Meghan releases children's book based on her own kids and their father around the time she has a kid shocker and promotes the father related book on Father's Day OF ALL DAYS !!!"

Butthurt are you? Cos you don't like my opinion. Awww....:hehe:

[Glenn.]

Butthurt are you? Cos you don't like my opinion. Awww....:hehe:

That’s a bit rich considering you fail to recognise that other people have opinions too. Other people are able to form opinions without being unnecessarily hateful about the subject matter.

[jet]

Yeah interesting

You'd think both Kate & Meghan would be supported in these projects then , but no such luck .

It's not the same at all though. Kate is a keen and very accomplished photographer herself, she's GOOD at it. She thought up the project herself, was involved at every stage and helped to choose the photographs and stories. Her preface was excellent. It was also for charity, so no exploitation for personal gain at all.

[GoldHeart]

It's not the same at all though. Kate is a keen and very accomplished photographer herself, she's GOOD at it. She thought up the project herself, was involved at every stage and helped to choose the photographs and stories. Her preface was excellent. It was also for charity, so no exploitation for personal gain at all.

https://i.postimg.cc/t4008g2J/tenor-6.gif (https://postimages.org/)

[user104658]

Kate is a keen and very accomplished photographer herself, she's GOOD at it.

I'm going need to see some evidence of this I'm afraid - I tried googling it but all I found was an article about how her kids sometimes say "Mummy, please stop taking pictures" because they don't like it but she viciously ignores their little voices, disregards consent, and continues snapping away :worry:. A really distressing article.

Kate reveals her children sometimes say "Mummy please stop!" (https://www.windsorobserver.co.uk/news/national/19364799.kate-reveals-children-sometimes-say-mummy-please-stop-taking-photographs/)

https://i.imgur.com/YLtufPr.jpg

[jet]

I'm going need to see some evidence of this I'm afraid - I tried googling it but all I found was an article about how her kids sometimes say "Mummy, please stop taking pictures" because they don't like it but she viciously ignores their little voices, disregards consent, and continues snapping away :worry:. A really distressing article.

Kate reveals her children sometimes say "Mummy please stop!" (https://www.windsorobserver.co.uk/news/national/19364799.kate-reveals-children-sometimes-say-mummy-please-stop-taking-photographs/)

https://i.imgur.com/YLtufPr.jpg

The RSPCC need to know about this. I'll handle it. :inamood:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm going need to see some evidence of this I'm afraid - I tried googling it but all I found was an article about how her kids sometimes say "Mummy, please stop taking pictures" because they don't like it but she viciously ignores their little voices, disregards consent, and continues snapping away :worry:. A really distressing article.

Kate reveals her children sometimes say "Mummy please stop!" (https://www.windsorobserver.co.uk/news/national/19364799.kate-reveals-children-sometimes-say-mummy-please-stop-taking-photographs/)

https://i.imgur.com/YLtufPr.jpg

She is actually a very accomplished photographer as it goes

https://www.insider.com/kate-middleton-cutest-family-photos-2018-5#kensington-palace-marked-charlottes-1st-birthday-in-may-2016-by-sharing-a-series-of-photos-taken-by-middleton-7

[Parmy]

Not the windsor observer again

:facepalm:

[jet]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1420069/kate-middleton-news-photography-duchess-of-cambridge-picture-royal-family-news

Kate praised by professional photographer over ‘incredible’ talent - 'Making my life easy'.

:hee:

[user104658]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1420069/kate-middleton-news-photography-duchess-of-cambridge-picture-royal-family-news

Kate praised by professional photographer over ‘incredible’ talent - 'Making my life easy'.

:hee:

Not Jet trying to provide proof that Kate is a talented photographer by posting an article full of pictures OF Kate holding a camera :joker: :joker: :joker:.

Where are the pictures she TOOK, jet. I managed to see the instagram snaps of her poor harrassed kids that LT posted up but I want to see the ones where she's demonstrated any sort of artistic merit in her photography. The pictures, jet. Not an article of someone else saying her pictures are good ffs.

[bots]

Not Jet trying to provide proof that Kate is a talented photographer by posting an article full of pictures OF Kate holding a camera :joker: :joker: :joker:.

Where are the pictures she TOOK, jet. I managed to see the instagram snaps of her poor harrassed kids that LT posted up but I want to see the ones where she's demonstrated any sort of artistic merit in her photography. The pictures, jet. Not an article of someone else saying her pictures are good ffs.

i believe she directed and starred in the couples private porn collection, coming soon to netflix

[Amy Jade]

Has Kate released a NUMBER 1 BEST SELLING BOOK also?

No?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-00425c0df357ac88fb38d63d7898cec0

[jet]

Not Jet trying to provide proof that Kate is a talented photographer by posting an article full of pictures OF Kate holding a camera :joker: :joker: :joker:.

Where are the pictures she TOOK, jet. I managed to see the instagram snaps of her poor harrassed kids that LT posted up but I want to see the ones where she's demonstrated any sort of artistic merit in her photography. The pictures, jet. Not an article of someone else saying her pictures are good ffs.

Ohhh, TS getting all irate and demanding. I's sceered. D:

[thesheriff443]

Has Kate released a NUMBER 1 BEST SELLING BOOK also?

No?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-00425c0df357ac88fb38d63d7898cec0

But she would do wouldn’t she if she felt the need.

[Marsh.]

Butthurt are you? Cos you don't like my opinion. Awww....:hehe:

It's not an opinion. It's a rant about a children's book. Bless.

[Marsh.]

It's not the same at all though. Kate is a keen and very accomplished photographer herself

:laugh2:

[Marsh.]

Not Jet trying to provide proof that Kate is a talented photographer by posting an article full of pictures OF Kate holding a camera :joker: :joker: :joker:.

Where are the pictures she TOOK, jet. I managed to see the instagram snaps of her poor harrassed kids that LT posted up but I want to see the ones where she's demonstrated any sort of artistic merit in her photography. The pictures, jet. Not an article of someone else saying her pictures are good ffs.

:joker:

Mother.... takes pictures of her kids.

[thesheriff443]

Meghan wrote a poorly written poem her advisers had a brainstorming session and said make it into a picture book so they got a professional illustrator to work his magic
Promote it release it on Father’s Day for maximum profit and it’s sold well.

Meghan is many things but she is not a poet.

[Marsh.]

She didn't claim to be a poet. She wrote a children's book. Get over it.

[Amy Jade]

But she would do wouldn’t she if she felt the need.

If you say so and good luck to her!

Meanwhile...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4Chmp7VUAEr_Ui.jpg

[jet]

A professional photographer describes Kate's pics as 'incredible'.
Professional writers describes Meghan's verses as 'semi - literate'.

Don't be jealous now, some home schooling and Meghan's next effort might be better....:hehe:

[GoldHeart]

But she would do wouldn’t she if she felt the need.

It's not a ruddy competition , oh wait I forgot we must always compare the 2 like race horses on a track :notimpressed: .

[rusticgal]

Has Kate released a NUMBER 1 BEST SELLING BOOK also?

No?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-00425c0df357ac88fb38d63d7898cec0



She doesn’t need to….she’s neither desperate or needs the money and publicity.

[thesheriff443]

It's not a ruddy competition , oh wait I forgot we must always compare the 2 like race horses on a track :notimpressed: .

It was in answer to Amy jade who was comparing the two so live with it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

She didn't claim to be a poet. She wrote a children's book. Get over it.

incorrect

she wrote a cloying note to harry and a publisher who could smell a profit turned t into a kids book with the help of an illustrator

she has never written a book in her sorry life

[GoldHeart]

It was in answer to Amy jade who was comparing the two so live with it.

So bashing Meghan's book as "barely literate" & saying Kate is an "amazing photographer"

Is not comparing and pitting the 2 against eachother??
Sure okayyy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So bashing Meghan's book as "barely illiterate" & saying Kate is an "amazing photographer"

Is not comparing and pitting the 2 against eachother??
Sure okayyy.

kate is a very good photographer as witness

markle has never written a book

what dont you get?

[GoldHeart]

kate is a very good photographer as witness

markle has never written a book

what dont you get?

Meghan never claimed to be an expert in poetry or book writing,what don't YOU get ??.

This is a project she decided to do and she's achieved that.

[GoldHeart]

It's also funny how Kate takes a few photos and she's suddenly Annie Leibovitz :joker: .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Meghan never claimed to be an expert in poetry or book writing,what don't YOU get ??.

This is a project she decided to do and she's achieved that.

she didnt a pubisher did

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's also funny how Kate takes a few photos and she's suddenly Annie Leibovitz :joker: .

she has been taking images for years

not having the relevant information is hardly funny?

[AnnieK]

Let's be fair, both books only did as well as they did because of the names affiliated with them. Had someone else put Hold Still out with the same images and stories and still for the charity it wouldn't have sold as well as it did with Kate's name attached.

Meghan has to earn money, Kate does not as she is handsomely paid by the UK tax payer and the various Duchy grants for the work she does.

It doesn't need to be a pissing contest, both are in a position of privilege that us mere commoners will never know.

I haven't bought either book and won't but at the end of they day, both have set out to achieve what they wanted with their respective publications

[GoldHeart]

Let's be fair, both books only did as well as they did because of the names affiliated with them. Had someone else put Hold Still out with the same images and stories and still for the charity it wouldn't have sold as well as it did with Kate's name attached.

Meghan has to earn money, Kate does not as she is handsomely paid by the UK tax payer and the various Duchy grants for the work she does.

It doesn't need to be a pissing contest, both are in a position of privilege that us mere commoners will never know.

I haven't bought either book and won't but at the end of they day, both have set out to achieve what they wanted with their respective publications

Very well said :clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Let's be fair, both books only did as well as they did because of the names affiliated with them. Had someone else put Hold Still out with the same images and stories and still for the charity it wouldn't have sold as well as it did with Kate's name attached.

Meghan has to earn money, Kate does not as she is handsomely paid by the UK tax payer and the various Duchy grants for the work she does.

It doesn't need to be a pissing contest, both are in a position of privilege that us mere commoners will never know.

I haven't bought either book and won't but at the end of they day, both have set out to achieve what they wanted with their respective publications

one is a book based on talent

one is a hungry publisher whoring out fame

take your pick

[AnnieK]

one is a book based on talent

one is a hungry publisher whoring out fame

take your pick

Its not Kate's talent though LT....they are not her photographs :shrug:

[Amy Jade]

https://i.ibb.co/M6rRg4W/20210702-202012.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its not Kate's talent though LT....they are not her photographs :shrug:

INCORRECT

https://www.insider.com/kate-middleton-cutest-family-photos-2018-5

[AnnieK]

INCORRECT

https://www.insider.com/kate-middleton-cutest-family-photos-2018-5

No you are INCORRECT

the topic is about the book, Kate's photographs DO NOT feature. She helped to choose the pictures featured taken by other people.

I'll await your apology

[GoldHeart]

she has been taking images for years

not having the relevant information is hardly funny?

So basically
Kate = Best professional photographer in the world ?

Meghan = Worst writer in history?

Got it !

[Niamh.]

The constant comparing of two women is such a boring sexist trope

[user104658]

A professional photographer describes Kate's pics as 'incredible'.
Professional writers describes Meghan's verses as 'semi - literate'.

They’re not “incredible” though are they… they’re not terrible either… They’re decently taken amateur family hobby-snaps of her kids.

Meghan book isn’t incredible either… but nor is it semi-literate… it’s an amateur attempt at hobby-writing a children’s book.

And yet the press for Kate has some professional photographer gushing that she’s some sort of genius behind the camera and Meghan has literature reviewers acting like her book is the worst thing they’ve ever read.

This illustrates the entire issue whether you realise it or not.

The people on this thread trying to claim that Kate is putting out professional-quality photography when it’s the stuff you’ll see on the Instagram pages of pretty much any mum of young kids… it’s just a bit silly isn’t it?

And do you know what makes it doubly-stupid? I would bet good money that Meghan/Kate wouldn’t for one second pretend that they are a professional writer/photographer. Neither of them!

[The Slim Reaper]

The constant comparing of two women is such a boring sexist trope

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/hit-bull-260nw-394817971.jpg

[Ammi]

The constant comparing of two women is such a boring sexist trope

https://image.shutterstock.com/image-illustration/hit-bull-260nw-394817971.jpg

…this exactly is what I was about to say, these two women are constantly compared in their achievements, accomplishments, their styling and even with their motherhood and it’s extremely sexist…

[Crimson Dynamo]

So basically
Kate = Best professional photographer in the world ?

Meghan = Worst writer in history?

Got it !

well if you wish to exaggerate and tell fibs to make a point i guess you got there

:facepalm:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The constant comparing of two women is such a boring sexist trope

and using the word trope is such a tired forum shutdown

[Niamh.]

and using the word trope is such a tired forum shutdownHow about Cliché? just to mix it up a bit

[Glenn.]

https://i.ibb.co/M6rRg4W/20210702-202012.jpg

Yass Queen!

[AnnieK]

No you are INCORRECT

the topic is about the book, Kate's photographs DO NOT feature. She helped to choose the pictures featured taken by other people.

I'll await your apology

Still waiting LT :whistle:

[GoldHeart]

well if you wish to exaggerate and tell fibs to make a point i guess you got there

:facepalm:

It's literally what you're saying though >>>

'Kate is another Annie Leibovitz'

'And Meghan is some illiterate hobo '

:notimpressed:

[jet]

They’re not “incredible” though are they… they’re not terrible either… They’re decently taken amateur family hobby-snaps of her kids.

Meghan book isn’t incredible either… but nor is it semi-literate… it’s an amateur attempt at hobby-writing a children’s book.




That's just your opinion though, mine is that Kate's photo's are brilliant....and Meghan's verses are awful.
I didn't bring Kate into the thread in the first place, that was Goldheart, making comparisons.

[GoldHeart]

That's just your opinion though, mine is that Kate's photo's are brilliant....and Meghan's verses are awful.
I didn't bring Kate into the thread in the first place, that was Goldheart, making comparisons.

Oh really ? Ha
I don't remember bashing ,and berating Meghan's writing & poetry skills whilst gushing over Kate being a "professional photographer" , but okayyy :whistle: .

[jet]

Oh really ? Ha
I don't remember bashing ,and berating Meghan's writing & poetry skills whilst gushing over Kate being a "professional photographer" , but okayyy :whistle: .

Nobody called Kate a professional photographer and nobody mentioned her until you did....(post 144).
That led to people giving opinions on their respective publications, which you brought up in the first place.

[Tom4784]

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[Marsh.]

incorrect

she wrote a cloying note to harry and a publisher who could smell a profit turned t into a kids book with the help of an illustrator

she has never written a book in her sorry life

That's no different to what I said. She never claimed to be a poet.

The publishing industry don't make books for free shocker!! I guess that's classified as news in your world.

[Marsh.]

It's also funny how Kate takes a few photos and she's suddenly Annie Leibovitz :joker: .

:joker:

[Parmy]

Has Kate released a NUMBER 1 BEST SELLING BOOK also?

No?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-00425c0df357ac88fb38d63d7898cec0

It's very sexist to compare the 2:nono:

[Amy Jade]

Who was comparing? I asked if she had released a #1 Best Selling Book because I don't know much about Kate.

[jet]

You'll be waiting a while, cowards rarely admit to their own mistakes.

That's rich, coming from you. :whistle:

[jet]

How devoid of joy must a person's life be to be so irate about a children's book?

Sounds like a dramatic line from a Shakespeare play. :laugh:

[user104658]

That's rich, coming from you. :whistle:


no u

[thesheriff443]

no u

Play ground, much

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its not Kate's talent though LT....they are not her photographs :shrug:

This photograph is the first of four official photographs being released today, taken by The Duchess of Cambridge in mid-May.


https://www.instagram.com/p/3mbJqhKZFl/?utm_source=ig_embed
https://www.instagram.com/p/-qz5qfqZN7/?utm_source=ig_embed


Verified
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are delighted to be able to share two new photographs of Princess Charlotte. They were taken by The Duchess in early November at their home in Norfolk.

etc

[rusticgal]

Who was comparing?



...of course you weren't :rolleyes:

[rusticgal]

This photograph is the first of four official photographs being released today, taken by The Duchess of Cambridge in mid-May.


https://www.instagram.com/p/3mbJqhKZFl/?utm_source=ig_embed
https://www.instagram.com/p/-qz5qfqZN7/?utm_source=ig_embed


Verified
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are delighted to be able to share two new photographs of Princess Charlotte. They were taken by The Duchess in early November at their home in Norfolk.

etc


Such a cruel woman taking photos...:laugh:

[Amy Jade]

This is a topic about Meghan and her #1 NYT Bestselling book 'The Bench' if you'd like to post Kate's pictures maybe it would be better in a separate thread?

[AnnieK]

This photograph is the first of four official photographs being released today, taken by The Duchess of Cambridge in mid-May.


https://www.instagram.com/p/3mbJqhKZFl/?utm_source=ig_embed
https://www.instagram.com/p/-qz5qfqZN7/?utm_source=ig_embed


Verified
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are delighted to be able to share two new photographs of Princess Charlotte. They were taken by The Duchess in early November at their home in Norfolk.

etc

I've never said she didn't take photographs. :shrug: she has released pictures of all the children :shrug:

The fact still remains that she DID NOT take any of the photographs in the Hold Still book that we were talking about when you claimed I was INCORRECT. I was not incorrect and actually knew what the content of said book was....which is obviously more than you did. Kate helped choose the pictures and wrote the foreward.....they photographs were other people's hence me saying it was not her talent in the book.

Tl:dr......don't have a pop and try and prove a point if you've not read tge thread properly

[The Slim Reaper]

Claiming everything is shutdown tactic, is a forum shutdown tactic :smug:

[The Slim Reaper]

Play ground, much

https://media1.tenor.com/images/fda9d6f90401ac101d2620b9cfddd1ca/tenor.gif?itemid=7356334

[AnnieK]

Such a cruel woman taking photos...:laugh:

Who said she was cruel? :shrug:

[user104658]

Who said she was cruel? :shrug:


Taking photos of her kids who don’t like it and beg her “Stop! Stop it mummy! You just take photographs all day and we don’t like it, we’re starting to think you love the Gram more than you love us, your own sweet, precious children! Uncle Harry! Auntie Meghan! Sh..sh..sh..she’s doing it again, taking photos and ignoring our pleas! Can we come and live with you in LA?”

I don’t know if that’s true but it’s what I read in an editorial from a royal source in last months Photographers Digest.

[Marsh.]

Sounds like a dramatic line from a Shakespeare play. :laugh:

Because it contains words you're not familiar with? :joker:

[jet]

Because it contains words you're not familiar with? :joker:

"Lord, what fools these mortals be!" A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act 1. :hee:

[Cherie]

"Lord, what fools these mortals be!" A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act 1. :hee:

:hee:

[Marsh.]

"Lord, what fools these mortals be!" A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Act 1. :hee:

Aww google :pat:

[Parmy]

Taking photos of her kids who don’t like it and beg her “Stop! Stop it mummy! You just take photographs all day and we don’t like it, we’re starting to think you love the Gram more than you love us, your own sweet, precious children! Uncle Harry! Auntie Meghan! Sh..sh..sh..she’s doing it again, taking photos and ignoring our pleas! Can we come and live with you in LA?”

I don’t know if that’s true but it’s what I read in an editorial from a royal source in last months Photographers Digest.

It's either that or you go round uncle Andrew's you little **** biscuits.:rant: