View Full Version : Stop using terms ‘boy’ and ‘girl’, Stonewall tells teachers
Crimson Dynamo
20-06-2021, 04:18 PM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2021/06/18/TELEMMGLPICT000260184176_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqWezhffA s5-xfevmYi2xuYSvRUBr8Yzc-f-ln16i6Hvk.jpeg?imwidth=460
Teachers should drop the terms boys and girls in favour of “learners”, and
mix up the sexes in PE classes, Stonewall has told schools.
The controversial LGBT charity is urging teachers to ditch all gendered
language and gendered uniforms and suggests that children should compete
against the opposite sex in sport.
A series of guidance documents state that uniform policies should "give the
option to wear a skirt as well as the option to wear trousers". One of
Stonewall’s guides said that its work in primary schools was funded by the
Government Equalities Office.
Stonewall advises school staff that they should: “Avoid dividing learners by
gender, whether in the classroom (you could divide them by their favourite
colour, month of birth or something else) or through uniform, sports activities
or other aspects of school life.”
Trans pupils can use the lavatories, changing rooms and dorms on school
trips that they feel most comfortable in, another booklet states.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/18/exclusive-stop-using-terms-boy-girl-stonewall-tells-teachers/
Nicky91
20-06-2021, 04:19 PM
:facepalm:
ridiculous 'cancel culture' nonsense, next
Cherie
20-06-2021, 04:21 PM
You could divide by month of birth or favourite colour, that sounds like a plan :laugh:
Elliot
20-06-2021, 04:35 PM
Stonewall isn’t controversial…? What sort of antiquated propaganda is this?
Tom4784
20-06-2021, 06:12 PM
Stonewall isn’t controversial…? What sort of antiquated propaganda is this?
The kind of propaganda that works on gullible gammon.
Crimson Dynamo
20-06-2021, 06:16 PM
The kind of propaganda that works on gullible gammon.
another comment about skin colour
smh
Redway
20-06-2021, 06:19 PM
another comment about skin colour
smh
Race jokes aren’t funny. Especially not in 2021.
arista
20-06-2021, 06:22 PM
Crazy.
Crimson Dynamo
20-06-2021, 06:22 PM
Race jokes aren’t funny. Especially not in 2021.
i agree
i wish this term was treated rightly as a racist term and banned
Tom4784
20-06-2021, 06:34 PM
Bad actors gonna bad act.
The Slim Reaper
20-06-2021, 06:35 PM
It's nothing to do with skin colour. we've had this discussion before and you ran away from it. If only if there was a word for someone who spreads the same known falsehoods across multiple threads...
Crimson Dynamo
20-06-2021, 06:43 PM
It's nothing to do with skin colour. we've had this discussion before and you ran away from it. If only if there was a word for someone who spreads the same known falsehoods across multiple threads...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_(insult)
Gammon (insult)
Gammon is a pejorative popularised in British political culture since around 2012. The term refers in particular to the colour of a person's (white) flushed face when expressing their strong opinions, as compared to the type of pork of the same name.
the only person who ran away was you and thankfully you dont now use the term (to your credit)
Tom4784
20-06-2021, 06:44 PM
A razzie worthy performance.
Crimson Dynamo
20-06-2021, 06:45 PM
A razzie worthy performance.
lets hope you follow slim and stop using this term
:fc:
Tom4784
20-06-2021, 06:46 PM
I'm white as hell, so no. Try again, bad actor.
The Slim Reaper
20-06-2021, 06:50 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_(insult)
Gammon (insult)
Gammon is a pejorative popularised in British political culture since around 2012. The term refers in particular to the colour of a person's (white) flushed face when expressing their strong opinions, as compared to the type of pork of the same name.
the only person who ran away was you and thankfully you dont now use the term (to your credit)
You used wiki last time, didn't work out otherwise you would have answered in the thread, not trolled with exactly the same nonsense in a different thread. The act is tired and boring.
I don't use the term now, because I've hardly ever used it, if at all.
Amy Jade
20-06-2021, 06:50 PM
It's nothing to do with skin colour. we've had this discussion before and you ran away from it. If only if there was a word for someone who spreads the same known falsehoods across multiple threads...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
Crimson Dynamo
20-06-2021, 06:50 PM
1406268665331322883
Crimson Dynamo
20-06-2021, 06:54 PM
You used wiki last time, didn't work out otherwise you would have answered in the thread, not trolled with exactly the same nonsense in a different thread. The act is tired and boring.
I don't use the term now, because I've hardly ever used it, if at all.
well it stopped you in your tracks
calling people names to shut them down is hardly a debate
The Slim Reaper
20-06-2021, 06:55 PM
It's the same routine - get called out, then straight back to posting others saying the offensive crap on your behalf. No doubt it would have been a hilarious jim davidson bit on it, if he wasn't a nonce enabler :laugh:
The Slim Reaper
20-06-2021, 06:58 PM
well it stopped you in your tracks
calling people names to shut them down is hardly a debate
Nothing stopped me because I've never used it. Galahad has always been my own word.
Not calling you names LT, we've just all had enough tbh, especially when you have a semi-decent (:smug:) brain in there.
Cherie
20-06-2021, 07:02 PM
so in the future it will be a night out with the purple group
or a night out with all those who have birthdays in May :amazed:
Crimson Dynamo
20-06-2021, 07:14 PM
so in the future it will be a night out with the purple group
or a night out with all those who have birthdays in May :amazed:
:joker:
Crimson Dynamo
20-06-2021, 07:15 PM
Nothing stopped me because I've never used it. Galahad has always been my own word.
Not calling you names LT, we've just all had enough tbh, especially when you have a semi-decent (:smug:) brain in there.
I'm used to the shtik slim and frankly, it's olden
not golden
Oliver_W
20-06-2021, 07:56 PM
Stonewall isn’t controversial…? What sort of antiquated propaganda is this?
Associating with creepers like Peter Tatchell, trying to push the trans stuff in schools, and accusing people of misogyny for supporting women's rights over transwomen isn't uncontroversial...
user104658
20-06-2021, 08:18 PM
I honestly doubt there’s any organisation that’s done MORE damage to the fight for fair, considered trans rights than Stonewall. Might take a decade or two for that to become obvious to all.
Marsh.
20-06-2021, 08:26 PM
Bad actors gonna bad act.
A razzie worthy performance.
I'm white as hell, so no. Try again, bad actor.
It's the same routine - get called out, then straight back to posting others saying the offensive crap on your behalf. No doubt it would have been a hilarious jim davidson bit on it, if he wasn't a nonce enabler :laugh:
:joker:
Cherie to pop one in her sig next?
Parmy
20-06-2021, 09:22 PM
:joker:
Cherie to pop one in her sig next?
Wrong:dance2:
Parmy
20-06-2021, 09:23 PM
We should be concentrating on what the children call the teachers and instill some respect in the little horrors.
Cherie
20-06-2021, 09:24 PM
:joker:
Cherie to pop one in her sig next?
:hee:
Cherie
20-06-2021, 09:24 PM
Wrong:dance2:
As per :hehe:
GoldHeart
20-06-2021, 10:12 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gammon_(insult)
Gammon (insult)
Gammon is a pejorative popularised in British political culture since around 2012. The term refers in particular to the colour of a person's (white) flushed face when expressing their strong opinions, as compared to the type of pork of the same name.
the only person who ran away was you and thankfully you dont now use the term (to your credit)
You never admit it
Nicky91
21-06-2021, 07:21 AM
We should be concentrating on what the children call the teachers and instill some respect in the little horrors.
i feel no sympathy whatsoever for those ungrateful money-hungry teachers these days
:idc:
Oliver_W
21-06-2021, 07:29 AM
i feel no sympathy whatsoever for those ungrateful money-hungry teachers these days
:idc:
maaaate it's not a line of work to go in for if you're into money...
arista
08-02-2023, 03:35 AM
BBC News Text
[The Church of England is set to debate
whether God could be referred to in
"non-gendered" terms, the Daily Mail reports.
The paper says Anglican bishops are
preparing to launch a major project on
gendered language this spring - which might decide
to stop using the male
pronouns "he" or "him" in prayers.]
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/17D27/production/_128557579_mail-nc.png.webp
Mystic Mock
08-02-2023, 05:45 AM
Tbf nobody really knows what or who God is.
If there is any truth to these religious passages in the first place.
Basically imo the they/them pronouns actually makes a lot of sense when describing a God.
the absurdity of arguing over the gender of an entity that doesn't even exist is quite spectacular :laugh:
GoldHeart
08-02-2023, 06:02 AM
Tbf nobody really knows what or who God is.
If there is any truth to these religious passages in the first place.
Basically imo the they/them pronouns actually makes a lot of sense when describing a God.
Why do they feel the need to change the pronouns,this goes alot deeper than that the whole "spiritual" argument. They want to change & erase words from the English language..... Under the guise of
" Making people feel accepted" , when in reality it's more about butchering and seeing how far they can push the agendas.
Cherie
08-02-2023, 06:38 AM
Why do they feel the need to change the pronouns,this goes alot deeper than that the whole "spiritual" argument. They want to change & erase words from the English language..... Under the guise of
" Making people feel accepted" , when in reality it's more about butchering and seeing how far they can push the agendas.
:clap1:
Why do they feel the need to change the pronouns,this goes alot deeper than that the whole "spiritual" argument. They want to change & erase words from the English language..... Under the guise of
" Making people feel accepted" , when in reality it's more about butchering and seeing how far they can push the agendas.
it's actually a far bigger problem, because the vast majority were pretty easy going, but now they have been activated by the absurdity of everything that is going on and that leads to the empowerment of nutters. It's a battle thats coming closer every day, and it's not going to end well
Oliver_W
08-02-2023, 08:43 AM
it's actually a far bigger problem, because the vast majority were pretty easy going, but now they have been activated by the absurdity of everything that is going on and that leads to the empowerment of nutters. It's a battle thats coming closer every day, and it's not going to end well
I honestly think the approach taken when I was a teen was better - no-one particularly cared if someone was LGBT, it wasn't especially praised and the issues weren't elevated, it just wasn't really a thing.
I honestly think the approach taken when I was a teen was better - no-one particularly cared if someone was LGBT, it wasn't especially praised and the issues weren't elevated, it just wasn't really a thing.
Mmmm when I was a teenager at high school any issues or differences or what we were quickly sorted out .. the teachers just whacked us .. with a cane , slipper or text book … plus a flying wooden board duster aka verbal warnings
I casually looked across at my girlfriend ( at the time) in a lesson .. seconds later the teacher whacked me on the back of my neck/head with a telephone directory … and I was a flaming Angel in class
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Oliver_W
08-02-2023, 09:03 AM
Mmmm when I was a teenager at high school any issues or differences or what we were quickly sorted out .. the teachers just whacked us .. with a cane , slipper or text book … plus a flying wooden board duster aka verbal warnings
I casually looked across at my girlfriend ( at the time) in a lesson .. seconds later the teacher whacked me on the back of my neck/head with a telephone directory … and I was a flaming Angel in class
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Well I'm gonna delicately broach the notion that you're a bit more "mature" than I :joker:
Well I'm gonna delicately broach the notion that you're a bit more "mature" than I :joker:
65 in a few weeks :)
Trouble is I’ve never really grown up :)
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Oliver_W
08-02-2023, 10:37 AM
65 in a few weeks :)
Trouble is I’ve never really grown up :)
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31 in a month and a day!
Liam-
08-02-2023, 10:38 AM
Nobody wants this, not even the furthest out in the fringe have ever cared about what this made up persons pronouns are
Oliver_W
08-02-2023, 10:43 AM
Nobody wants this, not even the furthest out in the fringe have ever cared about what this made up persons pronouns are
Well it's something the Church of England is literally debating. That's not to say it's because of fringe weirdos pressuring them. And it says that priests will have the choice to do so, not that it would be mandated.
I agree it's a load of fuss over nothing, I doubt any priests would do it given the choice. Those who would want to probably already do, it's not like they send their "scripts" to be approved or anything lol
The astounding thing is that the CoE want to change the gender of all holy writings, but can gay people get married in a church? No bloody way :crazy:
Livia
08-02-2023, 02:07 PM
CofE set to edit and rewrite the bible. Hope they don't mess with the first testament or the Jews will have something to say. Also... the Muslims, but we know how liberal they are.
joeysteele
08-02-2023, 04:49 PM
This really is utterly ridiculous of the Church of England to even think about or debating it.
For those who do believe and who follow Christianity for example.
The figure seen as the head of Christianity namely Jesus.
What are his followers to say in the prayer it's stated he taught to all.
Starting with ''OUR FATHER'' ........
Could they now advocate saying, something like ,OUR WHAT which art in heaven????
What will they now term too as to, Father, Son and Spirit.
Honestly, is it any wonder the Christian churches are seeing endlessly dwindling congregations.
When they waste time discussing total nonsense like this.
Messing around unnecessarily.
With all the chaos there is in the World.
Crimson Dynamo
08-02-2023, 09:34 PM
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1623431256615620608?s=20&t=_CincLrJAuiPA1YpmPD7DQ
Parmy
08-02-2023, 09:41 PM
What are the kids to call thier teachers?
Mystic Mock
08-02-2023, 09:42 PM
Why do they feel the need to change the pronouns,this goes alot deeper than that the whole "spiritual" argument. They want to change & erase words from the English language..... Under the guise of
" Making people feel accepted" , when in reality it's more about butchering and seeing how far they can push the agendas.
I agree that sometimes the English language is getting turned into a more clinical form of speaking, like for example men's Football trying to promote the clinical Player Of The Match instead of the correct term and tbh more catchy term in Man Of The Match. When really men's Football should keep Man Of The Match, and women's Football should have Woman Of The Match.
But tangent aside on my part, considering a God isn't even necessarily Humanoid in the first place, I think you can describe them however you want to describe them, whether it be a man, woman or Cogenitor (if anyone understands that reference well done) like I just don't think it's that big of a deal personally.
Mystic Mock
08-02-2023, 09:46 PM
This really is utterly ridiculous of the Church of England to even think about or debating it.
For those who do believe and who follow Christianity for example.
The figure seen as the head of Christianity namely Jesus.
What are his followers to say in the prayer it's stated he taught to all.
Starting with ''OUR FATHER'' ........
Could they now advocate saying, something like ,OUR WHAT which art in heaven????
What will they now term too as to, Father, Son and Spirit.
Honestly, is it any wonder the Christian churches are seeing endlessly dwindling congregations.
When they waste time discussing total nonsense like this.
Messing around unnecessarily.
With all the chaos there is in the World.
Our what sounds like a really bizarre beginning to a religious text I'll definitely say that Joey.
GoldHeart
08-02-2023, 09:51 PM
Will prayers end in " awomen" next .... These gender neutral people make zero sense . But because the COE is a joke now ,they will continue to bend over backwards for this silly agenda.
You don't get this foolishness happening in mosque's & synagogue's. They don't change / rewrite scriptures to please a small percentage of people.
The moment the Brit awards started doing gender neutral awards, I knew it was the beginning of the end . And now everyone is losing the plot.
Crimson Dynamo
08-02-2023, 09:54 PM
letting stonewall being involved with children is chilling
Liam-
08-02-2023, 10:41 PM
Will prayers end in " awomen" next .... These gender neutral people make zero sense . But because the COE is a joke now ,they will continue to bend over backwards for this silly agenda.
You don't get this foolishness happening in mosque's & synagogue's. They don't change / rewrite scriptures to please a small percentage of people.
The moment the Brit awards started doing gender neutral awards, I knew it was the beginning of the end . And now everyone is losing the plot.
The Brit awards being the signal for the end times :joker:
Livia
09-02-2023, 01:45 PM
Brit Awards being the thin end of the wedge.
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