Russell Brand 'devastated' after his German Shepherd kills wallaby on dog walk

[Niamh.]

Not sure he should be letting his dog off the lead unless he's in an enclosed space with no animals if he's doing this, apparently he's killed a sheep too?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/russell-brand-devastated-after-german-24354928?fbclid=IwAR0jhbuwxHzKfJyGlXNmWR4DAql5YNSE VaQNnN3Y-fTD6sxNe7s6qVyWHWU

The long-haired funnyman watched on in horror as Bear killed a wallaby near his Henley-on-Thames mansion, but he was praised by one local resident for springing in to action and saving the dying creature's joey

Russell Brand saved a baby wallaby’s life - just moments after his pet dog killed its mother.

The comedian, 46, was walking his German Shepherd, named Bear, near his £4.1 million home in Henley-on-Thames in Oxfordshire.

The town is well known for its population of wild wallabies, which are believed to have originated from a group of cute marsupials who escaped from a private collection twenty years ago.

Dad-of-two Russell, who is a vegan and has not eaten meat since he was 14, is said to have been left very upset by the incident, although he did manage to rescue the vulnerable joey.

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A local resident told The Sun that the horrific run-in with the wallaby, and Russell’s life-saving actions, had been the talk of the town.

The source said: “Absolutely no one is *blaming Russell or his dog — it’s just a horrible accident.

“He is a very caring man with animals — he has plenty of pets and they’re all his babies.

“I understand he’s devastated over what happened. It’s really sad.”

It's been reported in the past that Bear once killed a sheep.

[arista]

Yes he needs to pay attention with his dog


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9703439/Russell-Brands-left-devastated-German-Shepherd-Bear-mauls-wallaby-death.html

[Niamh.]

Yes he needs to pay attention with his dog

He's lucky a farmer hasn't shot him if he's killed a sheep too

[Crimson Dynamo]

sadly that dog has a taste for blood and wont stop

[arista]

He's lucky a farmer hasn't shot him if he's killed a sheep too



Yes Shoot the Dog

[Niamh.]

Yes Shoot the Dog

I'm not saying he should be shot, I'm saying he's lucky he wasn't, Russell needs to keep him under control better and not leave him run freely anymore, he's too dangerous to other animals by the sound of it. It could go for a smaller dog next time

[bots]

he really needs to keep control of his dog, it's irresponsible. What if it were a baby

[Cherie]

should be on a lead :idc:

[arista]

I'm not saying he should be shot, I'm saying he's lucky he wasn't, Russell needs to keep him under control better and not leave him run freely anymore, he's too dangerous to other animals by the sound of it. It could go for a smaller dog next time



Yes but as a Farmer
I would shoot his dog
if it just killed one of my sheep.

[user104658]

Should have been muzzled on walks after the first kill. I don't agree with "on the lead at all times" - frankly that's cruel and you might as well have it put down - but there's no harm in muzzling a dog if you know there's ANY risk.

[edit] That said, dogs should be on lead if you know there's farm animals around, as even the friendliest of dogs can literally scare a sheep to death (or off a cliff) trying to play with it.

[arista]

Should have been muzzled on walks after the first kill. I don't agreew with "on the lead at all times" - frankly that's cruel and you might as well have it put down - but there's no harm in muzzling a dog if you know there's ANY risk.



Yes.

[Elliot]

He’s so annoying like everyone on every side of every debate doesn’t see it for Russel brand why’s he still annoying us?

[rusticgal]

I dont have a dog...but if you are in open parkland are you not allowed to let it off its leash?
I mean if you release your dog in a field full of sheep and the dog kills a sheep then that is irresponsible. But if its in parkland where dog walkers take their dogs and an escaped Wallaby appears then I cant see how he can be responsible.
Im not a fan...but he was devastated and clearly loves animals.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

he was praised by one local resident for springing in to action and saving the dying creature's joey

Russell Brand saved a baby wallaby’s life - just moments after his pet dog killed its mother.

:umm2:

[user104658]

I dont have a dog...but if you are in open parkland are you not allowed to let it off its leash?
I mean if you release your dog in a field full of sheep and the dog kills a sheep then that is irresponsible. But if its in parkland where dog walkers take their dogs and an escaped Wallaby appears then I cant see how he can be responsible.
Im not a fan...but he was devastated and clearly loves animals.

It wasn't even escaped, they live wild in that area, apparently. Descended from escapees many years ago but the ones there currently will have been "born wild" so would simply be classed as wildlife.

Like I said I don't agree with people who say dogs should never be off-leash. They should be on-leash around livestock, but large dogs need to run and simply can't get the exercise they need walking on a leash at all times, at least not in their "peak years", pups and elderly dogs maybe different.

BUT if a dog has a history of attacking wildlife or of snapping at other dogs - even if it's a rare occurence - IMO they should definitely be muzzled. It's like wearing a seatbelt I guess - you don't EXPECT to crash on every journey but there's zero drawback to having that safety net in place.

[Niamh.]

It wasn't even escaped, they live wild in that area, apparently. Descended from escapees many years ago but the ones there currently will have been "born wild" so would simply be classed as wildlife.

Like I said I don't agree with people who say dogs should never be off-leash. They should be on-leash around livestock, but large dogs need to run and simply can't get the exercise they need walking on a leash at all times, at least not in their "peak years", pups and elderly dogs maybe different.

BUT if a dog has a history of attacking wildlife or of snapping at other dogs - even if it's a rare occurence - IMO they should definitely be muzzled. It's like wearing a seatbelt I guess - you don't EXPECT to crash on every journey but there's zero drawback to having that safety net in place.

Is there not a law in the UK that requires certain breeds of dogs(German Shepard's being one) to be muzzled when out in public? These Breeds have to be in Ireland

American pit bull terrier
English bull terrier
Staffordshire bull terrier
Bull mastiff
Dobermann pinscher
German shepherd (Alsatian)
Rhodesian ridgeback
Rottweiler
Japanese akita
Japanese tosa
Bandog

[user104658]

Is there not a law in the UK that requires certain breeds of dogs(German Shepard's being one) to be muzzled when out in public? These Breeds have to be in Ireland

American pit bull terrier
English bull terrier
Staffordshire bull terrier
Bull mastiff
Dobermann pinscher
German shepherd (Alsatian)
Rhodesian ridgeback
Rottweiler
Japanese akita
Japanese tosa
Bandog

I'm on a site now but it's a bit confusing, it says;

"There are no laws in Great Britain that demand a dog to be muzzled in some specified cases, but you should remember that you will take the responsibility if something happens for the fault of your dog."

But then immediately afterwards it says;


"The following dog types have to wear a muzzle and kept on a lead in public, also they are required to be registered and insured, neutered, tattooed and receive microchip implants.

Pit Bull Terrier
Dogo Argentino
Japanese Tosa
Fila Brasileiro"

:think:. I suspect it's supposed to say "except in some specified cases" in the first part, and the second is a list of those.

Either way, it's a much shorter list than Ireland, it seems to just include breeds that were created as fighting dogs, whereas the Irish list includes other hunting/guarding/shepherding breeds.


I have seen a guy around here with muzzled Greyhounds though, which I always wondered about as they're really friendly with mine, but I guess it makes more sense if they're just doing it as a courtesy/precaution rather than for any "historical" reason.

[UserSince2005]

put the dog down and ban russell from owning pets, he is not responsible enough.

[user104658]

To be fair I have no idea how to mitigate for all circumstances though - mine literally appears not to have an aggressive bone in her body, she doesn't even snap or lash out in pain, the world's biggest sadsack... however we're STILL wrestling with her over-enthusiasm and in her excitement she almost knocked a little old lady to the pavement a few months back :facepalm:. The last thing I need is to go to jail for manslaughter because my dog has accidentally murdered an elderly person whilst trying to lick their face!

[Niamh.]

I'm on a site now but it's a bit confusing, it says;

"There are no laws in Great Britain that demand a dog to be muzzled in some specified cases, but you should remember that you will take the responsibility if something happens for the fault of your dog."

But then immediately afterwards it says;


"The following dog types have to wear a muzzle and kept on a lead in public, also they are required to be registered and insured, neutered, tattooed and receive microchip implants.

Pit Bull Terrier
Dogo Argentino
Japanese Tosa
Fila Brasileiro"

:think:. I suspect it's supposed to say "except in some specified cases" in the first part, and the second is a list of those.

Either way, it's a much shorter list than Ireland, it seems to just include breeds that were created as fighting dogs, whereas the Irish list includes other hunting/guarding/shepherding breeds.


I have seen a guy around here with muzzled Greyhounds though, which I always wondered about as they're really friendly with mine, but I guess it makes more sense if they're just doing it as a courtesy/precaution rather than for any "historical" reason.

I'm surprised Huskies aren't on our list though, they're notoriously aggressive towards smaller animals/other dogs. The guy who runs the Kennels/cattery we take our dog and cat to said that it's the only breed he doesn't take as he's had so many issues with them

[user104658]

I'm surprised Huskies aren't on our list though, they're notoriously aggressive towards smaller animals/other dogs. The guy who runs the Kennels/cattery we take our dog and cat to said that it's the only breed he doesn't take as he's had so many issues with them

To be fair if I owned a kennels I'd probably ban Huskies just because of the noise they make. They howl constantly and that's the last thing you want around other dogs because if one starts, it's a chain reaction.

[MTVN]

Had no idea we had wallabies in the UK :o

[Crimson Dynamo]

Had no idea we had wallabies in the UK :o

we used to have one

:bawling:

[Marsh.]

To be fair I have no idea how to mitigate for all circumstances though - mine literally appears not to have an aggressive bone in her body, she doesn't even snap or lash out in pain, the world's biggest sadsack... however we're STILL wrestling with her over-enthusiasm and in her excitement she almost knocked a little old lady to the pavement a few months back :facepalm:. The last thing I need is to go to jail for manslaughter because my dog has accidentally murdered an elderly person whilst trying to lick their face!

:skull:

[Marsh.]

I'm more shocked he lives in the UK.

When doing his youtube videos he looks like he's in a retreat in Malibu or something. :laugh:

[Vicky.]

Had no idea we had wallabies in the UK :o

Same. Thought it was a pisstake story at first..

[rusticgal]

It wasn't even escaped, they live wild in that area, apparently. Descended from escapees many years ago but the ones there currently will have been "born wild" so would simply be classed as wildlife.

Like I said I don't agree with people who say dogs should never be off-leash. They should be on-leash around livestock, but large dogs need to run and simply can't get the exercise they need walking on a leash at all times, at least not in their "peak years", pups and elderly dogs maybe different.

BUT if a dog has a history of attacking wildlife or of snapping at other dogs - even if it's a rare occurence - IMO they should definitely be muzzled. It's like wearing a seatbelt I guess - you don't EXPECT to crash on every journey but there's zero drawback to having that safety net in place.


So I wonder if this area is protected for the wild Wallabys. We live opposite protected land for Badgers and Deers....they should do the same for the Wallabys.
I dont know whether his Dog had history...but it has now...so he needs to muzzle it.

[Niamh.]

So I wonder if this area is protected for the wild Wallabys. We live opposite protected land for Badgers and Deers....they should do the same for the Wallabys.
I dont know whether his Dog had history...but it has now...so he needs to muzzle it.

he's killed a sheep in the past as well apparently

[rusticgal]

he's killed a sheep in the past as well apparently


Well that sheds a new light on it....I always think an animal gets a lust for blood once it attacks another animal like that.

[Zizu]

I'm on a site now but it's a bit confusing, it says;

"There are no laws in Great Britain that demand a dog to be muzzled in some specified cases, but you should remember that you will take the responsibility if something happens for the fault of your dog."

But then immediately afterwards it says;


"The following dog types have to wear a muzzle and kept on a lead in public, also they are required to be registered and insured, neutered, tattooed and receive microchip implants.

Pit Bull Terrier
Dogo Argentino
Japanese Tosa
Fila Brasileiro"

:think:. I suspect it's supposed to say "except in some specified cases" in the first part, and the second is a list of those.

Either way, it's a much shorter list than Ireland, it seems to just include breeds that were created as fighting dogs, whereas the Irish list includes other hunting/guarding/shepherding breeds.


I have seen a guy around here with muzzled Greyhounds though, which I always wondered about as they're really friendly with mine, but I guess it makes more sense if they're just doing it as a courtesy/precaution rather than for any "historical" reason.


Greyhounds are sight - hunting dawgs aren’t they ?

That’s presumably why they chase that ‘thing’ around the race track .

Apparently if something runs away from them it’s second nature to chase ... hence the muzzle


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[Zizu]

I dont have a dog...but if you are in open parkland are you not allowed to let it off its leash?
I mean if you release your dog in a field full of sheep and the dog kills a sheep then that is irresponsible. But if its in parkland where dog walkers take their dogs and an escaped Wallaby appears then I cant see how he can be responsible.
Im not a fan...but he was devastated and clearly loves animals.


It’s down to responsibility surely though ..

You can’t let your dog free to run and kill other dogs or chew on some innocent kid just because it’s a public park ..


Sadly many do of course


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[Crimson Dynamo]

he's killed a sheep in the past as well apparently

If you loved your dog and it had killed a sheep you would keep it on a good lead at all times when out

[rusticgal]

It’s down to responsibility surely though ..

You can’t let your dog free to run and kill other dogs or chew on some innocent kid just because it’s a public park ..


Sadly many do of course


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Well it seems a grey area. I just googled it and it says its against the law to let a dog be dangerously out of control in a public place....then it says a dog is considered dangerously out of control if it injures someone :shrug: So if you have had your dog for 3 years and always taken it over the park for a game of Catch the Ball and you have never had a problem...and then after all that time it randomly attacks someone how can you be responsible for thinking your dog is dangerously out of control until its too late...

Am I missing something???

[Niamh.]

If you loved your dog and it had killed a sheep you would keep it on a good lead at all times when out

Yeah I agree

[bots]

my cousins dog killed a chicken on a farm and the farmer shot it there and then. If a dog has history, you are protecting it from harm if you muzzle it or keep it on a lead

[user104658]

If you loved your dog and it had killed a sheep you would keep it on a good lead at all times when out

To be honest though I don't feel like you can keep a dog like a German Shepherd and never let it off-lead... Really you'd have to pack it off to someone with land or at least a very large enclosed garden where it can run around. Keeping a large dog in a house + on lead on walks is honestly quite cruel.

Though I also don't think there's an easy answer or compromise.

[AnnieK]

To be honest though I don't feel like you can keep a dog like a German Shepherd and never let it off-lead... Really you'd have to pack it off to someone with land or at least a very large enclosed garden where it can run around. Keeping a large dog in a house + on lead on walks is honestly quite cruel.

Though I also don't think there's an easy answer or compromise.

I had a Rhodesian ridgeback and if he didn't get at least an hours run twice a day he was like a caged animal in the house. Luckily there was a wood nearby where he could be off the lead and just run.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I had a Rhodesian ridgeback and if he didn't get at least an hours run twice a day he was like a caged animal in the house. Luckily there was a wood nearby where he could be off the lead and just run.

https://popuppainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Manchester-Evening-News-Logo.jpg

"Wallaby population in Manchester hit a record low, locals perplexed."

[Amy Jade]

Irresponsible dog owner.

If it had killed a sheep before why was the dog off it's lead anyway, what if another dog walker was out and his dog got hold of their pet? If your dog is friendly, fine have it off the lead but if your dog isn't then keep it on at all times .

[AnnieK]

https://popuppainting.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Manchester-Evening-News-Logo.jpg

"Wallaby population in Manchester hit a record low, locals perplexed."

:laugh:

Nah...he couldn't have caught a cold that dog. He was nice but dim....he was a 9stone lap dog really, scared of his own shadow.

[Livia]

I have a German Shepherd and he is called Bear. How mortifying to have anything in common with Russell. Anyhoo.... My dog has been well trained, the trainer also trained us... which was interesting. He's super protective of the children and sleeps between their rooms. He's very obedient and we're kind of devoted to each other. If I was going somewhere where other children are, or dogs, or other animals, he is on the lead. He adores the children and plays with them while I'm around but I don't ever leave him alone with them... and this is a dog who has never ignored a command. I have no idea what Russell Brand's excuse is.

[Dogeatdog]

If his dog has supposedly killed a sheep in the past then I would say it was very irresponsible of Russell to have his dog off the lead in the first place especially with no muzzle on him either, regardless if he’s in an area with no one in sight or a public park.

[user104658]

If his dog has supposedly killed a sheep in the past then I would say it was very irresponsible of Russell to have his dog off the lead in the first place especially with no muzzle on him either, regardless if he’s in an area with no one in sight or a public park.

Dogeatwallaby

[Niamh.]

Dogeatwallaby

:hehe:

[Dogeatdog]

Dogeatwallaby

:laugh:

[rusticgal]

If his dog has supposedly killed a sheep in the past then I would say it was very irresponsible of Russell to have his dog off the lead in the first place especially with no muzzle on him either, regardless if he’s in an area with no one in sight or a public park.


I agree.