Should workers be allowed to go home early today to watch the football?

[Beso]

According to Keirs stammers they should.

But what do you think?

[Livia]

Yes, of course.

[arista]

It Depends if the
the work has to be done for the next day.

[ThomasC]

No and why would you?

If you’re a big fan then book the A\L for it

[Livia]

People could be given the opportunity to make up the time?

[Crimson Dynamo]

of course

employers should be flexible and canny

[user104658]

If you’re a big fan then book the A\L for it

That would be my thinking tbh. Anyone who is that fussed should take it as leave :think:.

[Niamh.]

of course

employers should be flexible and canny

Not LT encouraging time off work :o

[Smithy]

Only if can be allowed to go home early to watch Drag Race

[user104658]

I've been known to book AL for game releases but you can't reliably do it any more because they NEVER release when they're supposed to :joker:.

[Redway]

If their work’s non-essential, why not?

[bots]

it's only a football match

[user104658]

If their work’s non-essential, why not?

Because it (falsely) places football as being of higher importance than countless other events that other people would want leave for... and giving extra leave for ALL of those events is unrealistic. No to extra privileges for football yobs. By all means, companies could add an extra three holiday days a year to be taken as "standalone event days" or whatever, to be spent how the employee chooses.

[Cherie]

of course they should, just like kids get to watch matches during the day at school if they are early :D:

[Smithy]

Because it (falsely) places football as being of higher importance than countless other events that other people would want leave for... and giving extra leave for ALL of those events is unrealistic. No to extra privileges for football yobs. By all means, companies could add an extra three holiday days a year to be taken as "standalone event days" or whatever, to be spent how the employee chooses.

This tea!

[bots]

i imagine the next world cup in Qatar will have some matches at very strange times, so that will be interesting

[joeysteele]

Yes, absolutely.

[bots]

in this day and age with video on demand, there is just no necessity to watch the match as it actually happens. That's the whole point of video on demand is it not

[Liam-]

Given time off work.. to watch football? I can’t even comprehend how ridiculous that concept is

[Cherie]

in this day and age with video on demand, there is just no necessity to watch the match as it actually happens. That's the whole point of video on demand is it not

you don't think the score would be leaked :worry:

[Cherie]

Only if can be allowed to go home early to watch Drag Race

No because it doesn't start at 5 so the yobs who watch drag race don't need to leave early :hee:

[bots]

you don't think the score would be leaked :worry:

in the france game last night, the commentator mentioned at least 4 times that he wasn't going to spoil the spain result for those that hadn't watched it yet

[Cherie]

in the france game last night, the commentator mentioned at least 4 times that he wasn't going to spoil the spain result for those that hadn't watched it yet

they might hear it on the way home though on public transport :think:

[Jordan.]

lol no maybe if it was a final

[user104658]

in this day and age with video on demand, there is just no necessity to watch the match as it actually happens. That's the whole point of video on demand is it not

To be fair, it can be hard to avoid hearing a sports result if you don't watch it live, especially something like an international game where you're going to have topless chavs parading the streets chanting about it if it's a win.

My dad loves (to this day) telling a tale from about 30 years ago, where he had recorded a Celtic game to watch when we got home from shopping, and a neighbour stopped him as we got out of the car to ask if he watched the game. He said no, and not to tell him the score as he was about to watch a recording... to which the neighbour said "Ahh OK I won't spoil it - but it was a boring game anyway, there weren't any goals".

This is basically his all-time favourite "dad story".

[Niamh.]

To be fair, it can be hard to avoid hearing a sports result if you don't watch it live, especially something like an international game where you're going to have topless chavs parading the streets chanting about it if it's a win.

My dad loves (to this day) telling a tale from about 30 years ago, where he had recorded a Celtic game to watch when we got home from shopping, and a neighbour stopped him as we got out of the car to ask if he watched the game. He said no, and not to tell him the score as he was about to watch a recording... to which the neighbour said "Ahh OK I won't spoil it - but it was a boring game anyway, there weren't any goals".

This is basically his all-time favourite "dad story".

bahahaha That sounds like my mother. She was telling me about some film she watched and I said don't tell me the whole story, I might watch it sometime and she says "I won't, can I just tell you the end?" :laugh: :facepalm:

[Glenn.]

No it’s a game of football. And given how theyve played so far, it’s highly unlikely to be an exciting one.

[Dogeatdog]

I mean I think they should tbh but then this is one of a few reasons why I wouldn’t survive at the top :laugh:

[Nicky91]

non-essential workers yes they should be allowed some time off for this


as for essential workers, they can for example tell their relatives over the phone to record the match for later on when the shift is over (our tv providers in our nation got a record menu, up to 100 episodes of storage on that, idk what this is like with tv providers in UK)

[smudgie]

No.

[Babayaro.]

No and why would you?

If you’re a big fan then book the A\L for it

This

[AnnieK]

I'm leaving early for it but will divert my calls to my mobile and log on when I get in so will still be officially working

[rusticgal]

I think if it was a semi final it would be a good thing to do...

[The Slim Reaper]

I'm leaving early for it but will divert my calls to my mobile and log on when I get in so will still be officially working

We used to have a skeleton staff in the office to man the phones, and our boss used to just come to the pub with anyone who wanted to watch it, then he'd give the phone monkeys the equivalent time off when they wanted to take it. Worked really well, especially when you consider that clients were also watching it, so unless there was an emergency, nothing was happening anyway.

[AnnieK]

We used to have a skeleton staff in the office to man the phones, and our boss used to just come to the pub with anyone who wanted to watch it, then he'd give the phone monkeys the equivalent time off when they wanted to take it. Worked really well, especially when you consider that clients were also watching it, so unless there was an emergency, nothing was happening anyway.

Yeah, we would normally do something similar but we are on skeleton staff because of covid so only me physically in the office today so I'm getting an early dart at 4 but will pick up calls. Can't see anything happening to be honest - have cleared all calls etc so barring an emergency I should be pretty undisturbed :laugh:

[user104658]

I'm leaving early for it but will divert my calls to my mobile and log on when I get in so will still be officially working

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[Crimson Dynamo]

No it’s a game of football. And given how theyve played so far, it’s highly unlikely to be an exciting one.

spoken like a true "I know nowt about football" person

:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

bearing in mind the last 18 months you would have to be a right nasty pig to not let true fans watch it

[Cherie]

working class people not wanting other working class people to have an hour off :facepalm:

[MTVN]

Seems a bit mean spirited not to do so if it's a flexible work industry, not something that's really possible in a lot of sectors though

[Marsh.]

working class people not wanting other working class people to have an hour off :facepalm:

Not everyone works 9 to 5.

[Vanessa]

We have two big TVs in the canteen. We can watch it there :laugh:

[Cherie]

Not everyone works 9 to 5.

turn of phrase obviously but you knew that

[Marsh.]

turn of phrase obviously but you knew that

It was an observation. Not really worth getting sassy over.

[Smithy]

No because it doesn't start at 5 so the yobs who watch drag race don't need to leave early :hee:

It actually gets uploaded at 5pm every Thursday currently :)

[Beso]

Sat nav says I arrive home at 4.55...

[rusticgal]

bearing in mind the last 18 months you would have to be a right nasty pig to not let true fans watch it


Thats very true......

[Cherie]

It actually gets uploaded at 5pm every Thursday currently :)

Every Thurs being the operative words, last time England played Germany was 2010 :)

[Amy Jade]

No.

[Amy Jade]

I have to book Eurovision off every year.

[Redway]

Because it (falsely) places football as being of higher importance than countless other events that other people would want leave for... and giving extra leave for ALL of those events is unrealistic. No to extra privileges for football yobs. By all means, companies could add an extra three holiday days a year to be taken as "standalone event days" or whatever, to be spent how the employee chooses.

What a barrel of laughs you must be at parties.

[user104658]

What a barrel of laughs you must be at parties.


I just don’t happen to have that fawning, childish adoration for football that some people seem to never outgrow :shrug:.

[Redway]

I just don’t happen to have that fawning, childish adoration for football that some people seem to never outgrow :shrug:.

That doesn’t mean that taking a day off to watch a game is inherently childish. Most other reasons people would have for requesting days off wouldn’t be on the magnitude of Euros (a global event).

[Marsh.]

That doesn’t mean that taking a day off to watch a game is inherently childish. Most other reasons people would have for requesting days off wouldn’t be on the magnitude of Euros (a global event).

But the "magnitude" is about personal perspective. It doesn't mean anything to someone who's not into football. Same as Eurovision will mean nothing to non-fans.

[Cherie]

If employers were able to do this they would have left everyone go, not just football fans, talk about shooting yourself in the foot, and i think it is childish for people who work from home to be so vocal about it, what difference is it going to make to your life if they some people get let home early, as for comparing it to Eurovision an event that happens every year on a date planned well in advance just no :laugh:

[user104658]

That doesn’t mean that taking a day off to watch a game is inherently childish. Most other reasons people would have for requesting days off wouldn’t be on the magnitude of Euros (a global event).


Taking a day off is fine, like I said I’m all for extra time off from employers for people to engage in big events to improve work/life balance, and if they enjoy football and one of those things is a football match then that’s fine. Which is why I said it could be a number of days of extra annual leave specifically designed for “one off” days of the employee’s choice. I like games… I like silly MCU movies and reality TV… I’m aware that none of these are highbrow interests… they’re all things I’ve legitimately taken annual leave for :joker:. I’m not saying there’s anything childish about liking football or having football as a hobby/interest, or any other sport.

What I find childish is the assumption or belief (and many grown men do believe this) that football - specifically football - has “special status” above and beyond any other personal interest or hobby, that in any way applies universally to people who have no interest in it, or that would warrant a “public holiday” day off for everyone because there’s a big day for their hobby :think:. I honestly see it as no less bizarre than the idea that we should have had a public holiday for the release of “Avengers: Endgame”. It was a global event, after all.

Don’t get me wrong I find the psychology of football in the UK (most of Europe, actually) really fascinating in terms of what’s going on with nostalgia/dopamine/comfort in a large proportion of (mostly) the male population but I’m not a member of that club personally, and I just don’t think that without that, the sport itself is particularly entertaining to watch :umm2:.

[Beso]

A work mate of mine has been of for 2 days cause his dog died.

I'm hoping for the same compassion when jaws(my goldfish) passes

[user104658]

If employers were able to do this they would have left everyone go, not just football fans, talk about shooting yourself in the foot, and i think it is childish for people who work from home to be so vocal about it, what difference is it going to make to your life if they some people get let home early, as for comparing it to Eurovision an event that happens every year on an date planned well in advance just no :laugh:


Well yes I would add that good employers would just be less strict in general and support people in their enthusiasm for something. We did have someone who clocked off at 2pm yesterday because - and I quote- “I’m gonna have to go guys, I’m too nervous about the football to concentrate” :joker:.

But that’s just the sort of place it is. He wasn’t given it, he didn’t have to ask, he just said he was going. That would have gotten people a written warning in my old job :joker:. In my current place it got a laughing emoji and a “go and have a lie down!” from the company director.

I’m still getting used to this **** :laugh:

[ThomasC]

Taking a day off is fine, like I said I’m all for extra time off from employers for people to engage in big events to improve work/life balance, and if they enjoy football and one of those things is a football match then that’s fine. Which is why I said it could be a number of days of extra annual leave specifically designed for “one off” days of the employee’s choice. I like games… I like silly MCU movies and reality TV… I’m aware that none of these are highbrow interests… they’re all things I’ve legitimately taken annual leave for :joker:. I’m not saying there’s anything childish about liking football or having football as a hobby/interest, or any other sport.

What I find childish is the assumption or belief (and many grown men do believe this) that football - specifically football - has “special status” above and beyond any other personal interest or hobby, that in any way applies universally to people who have no interest in it, or that would warrant a “public holiday” day off for everyone because there’s a big day for their hobby :think:. I honestly see it as no less bizarre than the idea that we should have had a public holiday for the release of “Avengers: Endgame”. It was a global event, after all.

Don’t get me wrong I find the psychology of football in the UK (most of Europe, actually) really fascinating in terms of what’s going on with nostalgia/dopamine/comfort in a large proportion of (mostly) the male population but I’m not a member of that club personally, and I just don’t think that without that, the sport itself is particularly entertaining to watch :umm2:.

Exactly.

It's nonsense.

You want the time off you book A/L. Period.

And don't get me started on, 'England is coming home'.....

[user104658]

A work mate of mine has been of for 2 days cause his dog died.

I'm hoping for the same compassion when jaws(my goldfish) passes


Again though I don’t even think that’s silly - companies should give compassionate leave for anyone who is grieving, even if it’s just a dog (although within reason there, a couple of days tops surely).

But again it’s down to individuals and what they want. We had a girl whose mum died who was off for nearly a month, but we also had a woman in her 60’s whose husband died and when asked if she was taking compassionate leave, replied “god no give me overtime, I don’t want to be sat at home alone all day” :(. Some people need time, others need to stay busy for a while to let it sink in. Whether it’s a family member or a goldfish.

[Marsh.]

If employers were able to do this they would have left everyone go, not just football fans, talk about shooting yourself in the foot, and i think it is childish for people who work from home to be so vocal about it, what difference is it going to make to your life if they some people get let home early, as for comparing it to Eurovision an event that happens every year on a date planned well in advance just no :laugh:

The question was specifically about the "magnitude" of this specific event. Calm down.

[Cherie]

Again though I don’t even think that’s silly - companies should give compassionate leave for anyone who is grieving, even if it’s just a dog (although within reason there, a couple of days tops surely).

But again it’s down to individuals and what they want. We had a girl whose mum died who was off for nearly a month, but we also had a woman in her 60’s whose husband died and when asked if she was taking compassionate leave, replied “god no give me overtime, I don’t want to be sat at home alone all day” :(. Some people need time, others need to stay busy for a while to let it sink in. Whether it’s a family member or a goldfish.

Calm down TS. stop responding in the thread or you will upset Marsh...oh wait you are male so that's fine carry on

[Marsh.]

:joker:

Don't respond to Cherie when she clearly makes a response to what you posted guys, it's "sexist".

[user104658]

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[Marsh.]

:joker:

[Cherie]

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:joker: that's the one

[Smithy]

Every Thurs being the operative words, last time England played Germany was 2010 :)

Girl you literally said it doesn’t start at 5??

Don’t move the goal posts!!

[Calderyon]

Watch the game at work via tablet or phone.

[Vanessa]

I remember when I took my telly at work, to watch the Italy-France final. What a night it was :laugh:

[Cherie]

I remember when I took my telly at work, to watch the Italy-France final. What a night it was :laugh:

:joker: brilliant

[Marsh.]

I remember when I took my telly at work, to watch the Italy-France final. What a night it was :laugh:

I remember at my first proper job the office manager brought her own TV in to watch the Royal Wedding on as we were the only place in the country (it felt like) to not get the day off.

A couple of women were interested to see Kate's dress but that was about it. She was glued to the set throughout. :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I remember when I took my telly at work, to watch the Italy-France final. What a night it was :laugh:

I remember carrying a large old fashioned colour TV about half a mile with a colleague to a council hall so we could watch Arsenal snatch the title from Liverpool at Anfield in 1989. We were having some doo at work and we put the telly in a back room and all the lads crowded in to the room to watch the game.




like this
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[Beso]

I remember carrying a large old fashioned colour TV about half a mile with a colleague to a council hall so we could watch Arsenal snatch the title from Liverpool at Anfield in 1989. We were having some doo at work and we put the telly in a back room and all the lads crowded in to the room to watch the game.




like this
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I remember being at a mates house 4 miles out of town watching that game, we ran all the way to town singing our heads off after the game