borris to make statement on step 4 @5pm

[michael21]

Look like step 4 going ahead how do you all feel

[ThomasC]

I feel like he's a twat.

They're all twats. Corrupt

[joeysteele]

He can say all he likes.
I've had little trust in just about most of what he,his Ministers and particularly Hancock have said all through.

I'll continue to set out to protect myself and my family in line with what we've seen and suffered under our own experiences.

It's frankly astounding to me there's so many who will still actually think this PM really gives a damn on people's health and safety.

[bots]

it's moving things from government enforced to personal responsibility, which is what we have for every other disease. People have had the option to be vaccinated, that was their personal choice. Now it's back to living life

[michael21]

5 pm borris will talk

[michael21]

it's moving things from government enforced to personal responsibility, which is what we have for every other disease. People have had the option to be vaccinated, that was their personal choice. Now it's back to living life

Yes but there might be some restrictions that are back if hospital case go up

[michael21]

Boris Johnson will hold a COVID press conference at 5pm to set out what the future looks like after lockdown ends on 19 July; masks and social distancing in pubs and bars could be scrapped, while working from home guidance may be dropped with festivals to return.

[Cherie]

let's hope so time to get back to reality now

[GoldHeart]

He can say all he likes.
I've had little trust in just about most of what he,his Ministers and particularly Hancock have said all through.

I'll continue to set out to protect myself and my family in line with what we've seen and suffered under our own experiences.

It's frankly astounding to me there's so many who will still actually think this PM really gives a damn on people's health and safety.

Yeah it's ridiculous really, the government and Boris especially has been stumbling through handling this pandemic.And it's been one disaster failure after another :bored: .

It's down to us to just be sensible now ,and keep doing what we were doing. I don't understand why some people think it's funny if someone decides to wear a mask outside, that's up to them if they want to be cautious. If the government says masks AREN'T needed anymore , I think people will still wear them as a precaution. Covid hasn't just magically disappeared.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Time to get the muzzles off

[Cherie]

Yeah it's ridiculous really, the government and Boris especially has been stumbling through handling this pandemic.And it's been one disaster failure after another :bored: .

It's down to us to just be sensible now ,and keep doing what we were doing. I don't understand why some people think it's funny if someone decides to wear a mask outside, that's up to them if they want to be cautious. If the government says masks AREN'T needed anymore , I think people will still wear them as a precaution. Covid hasn't just magically disappeared.

I don't think anyone will think it is funny :shrug:

[bots]

i think it's ludicrous that people say the government doesnt care when it has had the most successful vaccine rollout in europe. If the government didnt care, that wouldn't have happened. Some people are just never happy and want to blame them for everything. It's mindlessly stupid and blinkered to reality

[Crimson Dynamo]

i think it's ludicrous that people say the government doesnt care when it has had the most successful vaccine rollout in europe. If the government didnt care, that wouldn't have happened. Some people are just never happy and want to blame them for everything. It's mindlessly stupid and blinkered to reality

:clap1:

[Smithy]

i think it's ludicrous that people say the government doesnt care when it has had the most successful vaccine rollout in europe. If the government didnt care, that wouldn't have happened. Some people are just never happy and want to blame them for everything. It's mindlessly stupid and blinkered to reality

Vaccine rollout went well thanks to the NHS not the government
Death toll however is solely down to them!

[GoldHeart]

I don't think anyone will think it is funny :shrug:

Some people don't take wearing a mask that serious, even in the middle of the pandemic people were breaking rules remember.

[GoldHeart]

Vaccine rollout went well thanks to the NHS not the government
Death toll however is solely down to them!

Pretty much this

[Cherie]

Some people don't take wearing a mask that serious, even in the middle of the pandemic people were breaking rules remember.

Sorry I don’t understand what that has to do with anything

[Cherie]

Vaccine rollout went well thanks to the NHS not the government
Death toll however is solely down to them!

They invested in creating a vaccine to roll out?

[Daniel-X]

They invested in creating a vaccine to roll out?

The one with a really low protection rate that also causes blood clots and is no longer being given to young people?

Not to mention everyone who’s had AZ seems to have been ill afterwards…

[Cherie]

The one with a really low protection rate that also causes blood clots and is no longer being given to young people?

Not to mention everyone who’s had AZ seems to have been ill afterwards…

I know loads of people who had AZ and none of them were ill, including myself

Pfizer also gave people clots, just not as well documented

and with regard to protection it is the same as Pfizer not sure where you got your figures from

have a little read

http://www.pharmatimes.com/news/az,_pfizerbiontech_vaccines_highly_effective_again st_delta_variant_1371652

[Daniel-X]

I know loads of people who had AZ and none of them were ill, including myself

Pfizer also gave people clots, just not as well documented

and with regard to protection it is the same as Pfizer not sure where you got your figures from

Guess we know different people then

And 62 to 90% vs 95% looks a lot different to me :hee:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/2048/cpsprodpb/11C84/production/_115863827_untitled.png

[Cherie]

could you make it any bigger :omgno:

we are dealing with Delta now :hee:

[Cherie]

People die sadly

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9756975/CDC-launches-investigation-healthy-boy-dies-three-days-receiving-second-Covid-vaccine.html

[bots]

some of the responses on this thread just show the irrational hate. There are plenty things the government can be criticised for, but vaccination is not one of them

[Babayaro.]

I’m going to Cornwall on July 23rd for a week so perfect timing for things to be back to normal!! :fc: :dance:

[michael21]

I’m going to Cornwall on July 23rd for a week so perfect timing for things to be back to normal!! :fc: :dance:

Yes this is the real reason why step 4 can go ahead on July 19th :dance:

[michael21]

UK reports 27,334 new coronavirus cases and nine deaths

While infections remain high across the UK, the number of deaths reported is relatively low by comparison.

A further 188,632 vaccine doses were given out yesterday, marking one of the lowest daily figures in months.

[michael21]

The PM will be joined by England's chief medical officer Professor Chris Whitty and chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance.

[michael21]

Ryanair confirms it will make face masks mandatory on its flights

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ryanair confirms it will make face masks mandatory on its flights

and charge you £20 to wear them

[michael21]

and charge you £20 to wear them

Might go up in the summer holidays 🤔

[michael21]

Man with bad hair will be on soon

[michael21]

And it's live

[michael21]

:bawling:There going to do slids soon:bawling:

[michael21]

He got a 5 point plan

[michael21]

Gavin Williamson
Secretary of State for Education of the will talk tomorrow

[michael21]

I get my frist jab tomorrow

[michael21]

No more limits on social contact to allow people to gather in groups of any size


• The removal of the "one metre-plus" rule in almost all settings, apart from specific places such as airports

• All remaining businesses, including nightclubs, able to re-open

• No capacity caps on large scale events, such as sports matches or concerts

• No more regulations on wearing face masks in shops or on public transport

• The government will no longer require people to work from home

[michael21]

The vaccine rollout will now be accelerated further by reducing the interval between the two doses from 12 weeks to eight for under-40s.

This will mean that every adult should have had the chance to be double jabbed by mid-September.

[Babayaro.]

:clap1:

Hopefully we follow suit

[michael21]

Pm will still wear face masks when needed

[michael21]

Night clubs to reopen for those that like going to clubs at night

[michael21]

It's going to be a tough winter for the NHS

[Vanessa]

It's going to be a tough winter for the NHS

In winter we're getting the booster jab.
So that should help

[michael21]

In winter we're getting the booster jab.
So that should help

I hope so

[Nicky91]

Night clubs to reopen for those that like going to clubs at night

:facepalm:

oh no

better that they keep a close eye at those, if your government paid any attention at my nation currently

quite some of our delta variant infections is at nightclubs in own country (the other one whom got only more infections are the exam holidays from youth at spain, portugal)

[michael21]

:facepalm:

oh no

better that they keep a close eye at those, if your government paid any attention at my nation currently

quite some of our delta variant infections is at nightclubs in own country (the other one whom got only more infections are the exam holidays from youth at spain, portugal)


Night clubs are bad covid-19 like night clubs

[Crimson Dynamo]

we have done tests with nightclubs and there was no issue with them

[joeysteele]

Vaccine rollout went well thanks to the NHS not the government
Death toll however is solely down to them!

Plus the fact they handed it to the local authorities more too.

I'm impressed with the vaccine roll out, it's the one thing they handed to the right people to do.

However I'm never going to forget the negligence, incompetence and even misconduct across the rest of the pandemic by this bunch of political deceivers.
No matter how much hardline Con voters try to deflect from all that disaster, and in my view criminal losses of lives unnecessarily too.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Plus the fact they handed it to the local authorities more too.

I'm impressed with the vaccine roll out, it's the one thing they handed to the right people to do.

However I'm never going to forget the negligence, incompetence and even misconduct across the rest of the pandemic by this bunch of political deceivers.
No matter how much hardline Con voters try to deflect from all that disaster, and in my view criminal losses of lives unnecessarily too.

May I ask if you have any qualifications in Virology or epidemiology?

or are you getting your information from the media, like most are?

:shrug:

[joeysteele]

May I ask if you have any qualifications in Virology or epidemiology?

or are you getting your information from the media, like most are?

:shrug:

No.
My information comes from the 4 loved ones I've lost to this virus unnecessarily.
From all their medical records got very quickly after their deaths.

My time will come with thousands of other families at the public inquiry when he dares ever hold it.

Plus, I don't ever have to answer to anything to you with respect.

[GoldHeart]

May I ask if you have any qualifications in Virology or epidemiology?

or are you getting your information from the media, like most are?

:shrug:

Do you have experience in medical science then ?, You always try to make our you're knowledgeable :whistle:.

[The Slim Reaper]

Boris says there could be 50k new cases per day by the time we open up. This whole thing reeks of needing to change the subject from his government/hancock etc, and we're all being guinea-pigged for his own political benefit.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Boris says there could be 50k new cases per day by the time we open up. This whole thing reeks of needing to change the subject from his government/hancock etc, and we're all being guinea-pigged for his own political benefit.

it really does not and i presume you include the 2 scientists in your conspiracy theory?

:rolleyes:

[Crimson Dynamo]

No.
My information comes from the 4 loved ones I've lost to this virus unnecessarily.
From all their medical records got very quickly after their deaths.

My time will come with thousands of other families at the public inquiry when he dares ever hold it.

Plus, I don't ever have to answer to anything to you with respect.

anecdotal evidence is not really following the science or helpful in policy matters

and no need to be personal or insulting because someone asked you a question

[joeysteele]

Boris says there could be 50k new cases per day by the time we open up. This whole thing reeks of needing to change the subject from his government/hancock etc, and we're all being guinea-pigged for his own political benefit.

It does seem that in my opinion too Slim.

Then again I've rarely trusted a thing they've said all through.

[GoldHeart]

Boris says there could be 50k new cases per day by the time we open up. This whole thing reeks of needing to change the subject from his government/hancock etc, and we're all being guinea-pigged for his own political benefit.

And his shoddy plan is working, as now some people are looking forward to holidays away and getting rid of masks etc. Which is irresponsible as COVID hasn't just disappeared.

Like I said we'll have to just keep being responsible and using our common sense.

[Beso]

we have done tests with nightclubs and there was no issue with them

Test them while they wait to get in.:smug:

[Cherie]

And his shoddy plan is working, as now some people are looking forward to holidays away and getting rid of masks etc. Which is irresponsible as COVID hasn't just disappeared.

Like I said we'll have to just keep being responsible and using our common sense.

Exactly we will make our own choices

Tbh it will be less annoying because those that will continue to wear them will put them in properly...no chin or under nose masks :fist:

[bots]

the road map has been set out for months, so what could it possibly have to do with Hancock's resignation.

I want to ask those who dont want to see restrictions to end what the point of vaccination is? Would they prefer to live in a restricted world for the remainder of their lives? Covid isn't going anywhere, so thats the reality

[GoldHeart]

the road map has been set out for months, so what could it possibly have to do with Hancock's resignation.

I want to ask those who dont want to see restrictions to end what the point of vaccination is? Would they prefer to live in a restricted world for the remainder of their lives? Covid isn't going anywhere, so thats the reality

But as you just said "COVID isn't going anywhere" , therefore surely we should have made sure near enough everyone was fully vaccinated and held off lifting restrictions? . I'm having my second jab soon.

But how many people are still waiting to have their second one, and some people still won't get vaccinated atall.

[Cherie]

But as you just said "COVID isn't going anywhere" , therefore surely we should have made sure near enough everyone was fully vaccinated and held off lifting restrictions? . I'm having my second jab soon.

But how many people are still waiting to have their second one, and some people still won't get vaccinated atall.

All over 40s who want it will be double jabbed by 19th July ... there are businesses that have been closed for 16 months or only operating at half capacity since May, we have to start taking steps towards living with this...some people are on their knees with worry over their livelihoods, another 3 months of hell for them if we held off until September

[GoldHeart]

All over 40s who want it will be double jabbed by 19th July ... there are businesses that have been closed for 16 months or only operating at half capacity since May, we have to start taking steps towards living with this...some people are on their knees with worry over their livelihoods, another 3 months of hell for them if we held off until September

I understand the aspect with businesses and people's income , but i just think some of the other restrictions could still have been in place for a while until we're more out of the woods. That's probably a wrong way to put it , as we won't be out of the woods for a while but you know what i mean.

[bots]

I understand the aspect with businesses and people's income , but i just think some of the other restrictions could still have been in place for a while until we're more out of the woods. That's probably a wrong way to put it , as we won't be out of the woods for a while but you know what i mean.

i think thats the issue really, we wont be out of the woods, probably ever. The age groups not double jabbed by july are in a range that was largely unaffected by covid, so 1 jab to them is really like 2 jabs to a more vulnerable person. Its all about preventing serious illness and death and that will largely have been achieved by mid july. We can't force people to be vaccinated, but maybe there will be more take up of it amongst the skeptical once life returns to normal

I have noticed in the last few weeks that a significant proportion of people just werent wearing masks indoors when they should be, so keeping that a mandatory requirement was unsustainable. Those that want to wear masks will. I will certainly continue to wear a mask in a crowded environment, and i think it will become the norm. The moment people are not forced into something, they actually tend to view it more rationally. Of course there will be idiots, but there always are, in any scenario

[Beso]

All over 40s who want it will be double jabbed by 19th July ... there are businesses that have been closed for 16 months or only operating at half capacity since May, we have to start taking steps towards living with this...some people are on their knees with worry over their livelihoods, another 3 months of hell for them if we held off until September

That is correct cherie my friend.

If we dont fully open up as well, I can only assume we shall soon be seeing more daily suicide deaths due to covid restrictions, than actual covid deaths.


That's if we ain't already.

[michael21]

Breaking news

I had my frist jab and my arm hurts

[michael21]

Owners of hospitality are finding it hard to get staff as some oversea workers went home to be with there family because covid -19 but now brexit happen the paper work to get back is to much fir some

[The Slim Reaper]

it really does not and i presume you include the 2 scientists in your conspiracy theory?

:rolleyes:

The 2 scientists saying they'll continue to wear masks?

[michael21]

The 2 scientists saying they'll continue to wear masks?

One of them did not have a masks on when 3 men got him

[The Slim Reaper]

One of them did not have a masks on when 3 men got him

Probably wasn't expecting to be accosted by galahad, anti-vaxxers.

[michael21]

Breaking news

Anyone under the ages of 18 will no longer have to self isolated after 16 August

[michael21]

Health Secretary Sajid Javid says from 16 August anyone who is a close contact of someone who tested positive will no longer have to self-isolate if they are double jabbed

Anyone aged under 18 who is a close contact of a positive case will also no longer have to self-isolate, he told MPs.

[The Slim Reaper]

anecdotal evidence is not really following the science or helpful in policy matters

and no need to be personal or insulting because someone asked you a question

Not the first time you've dismissed or mocked Joeys covid tragedies.

[Beso]

Not the first time you've dismissed or mocked Joeys covid tragedies.

I think that one needs a link to show where and when

[The Slim Reaper]

I think that one needs a link to show where and when

It was deleted by Josy, who was involved in the conversation with us at the same time. You're a good friend, Parmy, going to bat in the mobile thread and now this one.

[Beso]

It was deleted by Josy, who was involved in the conversation with us at the same time. You're a good friend, Parmy, going to bat in the mobile thread and now this one.

No link, no proof..

You are just lying now to discredit LT at any opportunity.

[The Slim Reaper]

No link, no proof..

You are just lying now to discredit LT at any opportunity.

What's more likely, me making this up using Joey and Admin as witnesses, or it's the truth?

[michael21]

Breaking news

Matt hancock is advertising for a new aid :facepalm:

[Beso]

What's more likely, me making this up using Joey and Admin as witnesses, or it's the truth?

The first part.

[michael21]

Face coverings will no longer be advised in communal areas in schools from Step 4

Boris Johnson announced yesterday there will be no legal requirement to wear face masks when England moves to the final stage of lifting lockdown.

The education secretary has now confirmed this will also apply to schools.

[The Slim Reaper]

The first part.

Sure, I've seen you kick off when familial tragedies have been used against you (and rightly so), so I can both see and understand why you wouldn't want to believe your friend was doing it.

[user104658]

All over 40s who want it will be double jabbed by 19th July ... there are businesses that have been closed for 16 months or only operating at half capacity since May, we have to start taking steps towards living with this...some people are on their knees with worry over their livelihoods, another 3 months of hell for them if we held off until September


If all are double jabbed who want it, we should be opening 3 weeks after that date, not on that date, because being “double jabbed” means precisely nowt until the immune system has had time to do its job learning from the vaccine - which takes 21 days.

You’re no safer the day after your 2nd jab than you were the day before it.

[Cherie]

If all are double jabbed who want it, we should be opening 3 weeks after that date, not on that date, because being “double jabbed” means precisely nowt until the immune system has had time to do its job learning from the vaccine - which takes 21 days.

You’re no safer the day after your 2nd jab than you were the day before it.

They have reduced the time to get 2nd jabs for over 30s now so we are down into a cohort you yourself have said many times are not very vulnerable :shrug:

Over 40s have been able to get their second jab for weeks now in England at any rate

[michael21]

If all are double jabbed who want it, we should be opening 3 weeks after that date, not on that date, because being “double jabbed” means precisely nowt until the immune system has had time to do its job learning from the vaccine - which takes 21 days.

You’re no safer the day after your 2nd jab than you were the day before it.


It take 2 week to work though the system

[michael21]

It comes as another 224,776 vaccine doses were administered on Monday, as the government eyes the 19 July for the next stage of its roadmap - including the removal of the legal requirements for mask wearing.

[Cherie]

people are not coming forward for their jabs now as much, and if people in older cohorts did not come forward when it was their turn, then its up to them to protect themselves until the vaccine kicks in :shrug: we can't legislate for everyone in this crisis, 40,000 are awaiting cancer tests for example

[michael21]

people are not coming forward for their jabs now as much, and if people in older cohorts did not come forward when it was their turn, then its up to them to protect themselves until the vaccine kicks in :shrug: we can't legislate for everyone in this crisis, 40,000 are awaiting cancer tests for example

Some silly people don't wat the jabs