Exposed: London Muslim policewoman posted a torrent of racist messages

[arista]

[She frequently used the offensive term
'kuffar' to describe non-believers,
writing in July 2014: 'Kuffar lips have been all
over my mug there is no way I'm using
that thing again.'
Elsewhere she describes Pakistanis as 'p***s'.]

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[Ruby Begum (above), 26 - a Muslim police officer
hailed as a role model for bravely confronting
anti-lockdown protesters - was facing an
urgent investigation last night after it was
revealed she tweeted a torrent of racist messages ]

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Sure 2014
but still Her.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9872649/Muslim-policewoman-hailed-hero-confronting-anti-lockdown-protesters-tweeted-racist-messages.html

[Oliver_W]

You're burying the lede. Why focus on disgusting social media posts when the article also says
it emerged she communicated over many months with a woman thought to have fled Europe in 2014 to live under the Islamic State's so-called caliphate.

The woman would later acquire notoriety for appearing to defend male terrorists' use of minority group Yazidis as sex slaves.

She's not an actress or a reality TV "star" but a policewoman, so obviously higher standards should be applied to her, but it still takes a special brand of psycho to trawl through nearly a decade of social media to discredit someone.

[Crimson Dynamo]

disgusting

sack her immediately

[Niamh.]

The woman would later acquire notoriety for appearing to defend male terrorists' use of minority group Yazidis as sex slaves.

Gross.

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[Oliver_W]

The woman would later acquire notoriety for appearing to defend male terrorists' use of minority group Yazidis as sex slaves.

Gross.

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Ikr. But who cares about that when she said she wouldn't drink out of a mug used by someone else?

[Ammi]

The woman would later acquire notoriety for appearing to defend male terrorists' use of minority group Yazidis as sex slaves.


…so presumably ‘the woman’ is Shamima Begum, the radicalised Isis bride, then…?…

…in 2014 she made these worrying tweets and was active in communication with someone who had been infamously radicalised and had gone to Syria in 2015…but in 2016 she was able to join the police force without any depth of background research…not even two years of any easily found social media history looked at…that in itself is surely hugely answerable for and deeply concerning…imagine if DBS searches etc for working with children were as surface and lacking in depth as that…an entire police force and only two years of social media to look back on to employ people of such weighty positions…I’m not quite understanding this at all, this seems very layered …maybe the checks were done and these tweets were known when the position was given…?….

[bots]

It's just not appropriate for the police to have that type of person in their employ

[Crimson Dynamo]

"hailed as a role model for bravely confronting
anti-lockdown protesters"

by who specifically?

[Cherie]

Waving unsuitable people into jobs to meet diversity targets will result in this

[Livia]

What Cheriebomb said.

[Ammi]

It's just not appropriate for the police to have that type of person in their employ

….but we’re being more or less told that ‘appropriate’ isn’t/wasn’t looked into in even the most surface of ways by an establishment who has so many sources available to them…and which the DM have ‘searched’ so easily, which is hugely worrying, I feel…if she was deemed ‘not appropriate’ then the police force are answerable …because even if they deemed ‘a dismissal’ appropriate now….the whole employment system has to surely be looked at of others within the police force…

[Ammi]

….diversity isn’t the issue, an absence of basic history searches …(…according to the article…)…is the huge concern and the issue if this person is now deemed unsuitable for a job that she was employed to do in 2016 …because any of her words/beliefs/prejudices etc were in quite open text prior to that employment beginning…

[user104658]

I agree, in 2021 having a quick scout over a person's social media history should be pretty standard in recruitment. Although I suspect that would just lead to people keeping the social media history locked down. Personally I deleted 95% of my Facebook before going for a "proper" job... nothing dodgy in terms of jokes etc. but an awful lot of pictures from Uni nights out where I'm utterly off my tits. Not really a good look for an employer.

One of my housemates also had a hobby of making lewd little sculptures out of Babybel wax and posting them all over my feed. Some of them were just ... just obscene ...

[Oliver_W]

"hailed as a role model for bravely confronting
anti-lockdown protesters"

by who specifically?

If I had to guess, I'd say when pictures from the protests trickled out, condescending idiots were bowled over by the idea that a woman in a headscarf was doing her job.

[Ammi]

I agree, in 2021 having a quick scout over a person's social media history should be pretty standard in recruitment. Although I suspect that would just lead to people keeping the social media history locked down. Personally I deleted 95% of my Facebook before going for a "proper" job... nothing dodgy in terms of jokes etc. but an awful lot of pictures from Uni nights out where I'm utterly off my tits. Not really a good look for an employer.

One of my housemates also had a hobby of making lewd little sculptures out of Babybel wax and posting them all over my feed. Some of them were just ... just obscene ...

…that’s a bit odd as well, that even if this information was known at the time and she was still deemed as someone they wanted to employ….wouldn’t it have been on condition that some things were deleted as they would know how this surely looks for them and shows a huge system inadequacy….whichever way it’s flipped, it looks not great for them…

[Tom4784]

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[Cherie]

….diversity isn’t the issue, an absence of basic history searches …(…according to the article…)…is the huge concern and the issue if this person is now deemed unsuitable for a job that she was employed to do in 2016 …because any of her words/beliefs/prejudices etc were in quite open text prior to that employment beginning…

Its not just diversity, they obviously have targets set for older/younger/female as well as diverse officers as why else would Wayne Couzens have got through, or that guy who has far right links, they are too busy filling quotas rather than doing proper background checks, so much for a DBS :umm2:

[Ammi]

…sorry, I just don’t understand any diversity or ‘quota’ association in respect of this because I have no idea of any internal politic stuff …but that wouldn’t change the worrying lack of any checking of history if those tweets/views weren’t known…if they were known but it be deemed that this person still be employed by the police force then there there must be reasons for that considered decision being made and we’re only being given a part story by the media sources.…potentially following any quotas and employing correctly are two compatible things, they don’t work against each other and aren’t inter connected IMO….

[AnnieK]

As a recruiter, I always check people's socials when I get their CVs in. Most people do lock them down when looking for a job....the one's that don't tend to be the ones that have email addresses on their CVs like "sexychick23@hotmail.com"

Its a minefield though... you have to be careful not to let any unconscious bias cloud any judgements.

[Ammi]

As a recruiter, I always check people's socials when I get their CVs in. Most people do lock them down when looking for a job....the one's that don't tend to be the ones that have email addresses on their CVs like "sexychick23@hotmail.com"

Its a minefield though... you have to be careful not to let any unconscious bias cloud any judgements.

…I really don’t know what the entry requirements for the police force would be in terms of any social media activity and personal connections and followings etc …but it would seem like a basic police entry search…I know that existing officers can be suspended for social media/texting activity etc so it just feels so basic…

[Ammi]

…anyway, maybe there’ll be more information on this in the up and coming while…if her employment is something that shouldn’t have happened then it shouldn’t be being ‘exposed’ by the DM, it should be being exposed by the police establishment…

[Crimson Dynamo]

why would someone like her who obviously hates the UK want to be a policewoman never mind live here?

baffling

[Cherie]

…sorry, I just don’t understand any diversity or ‘quota’ association in respect of this because I have no idea of any internal politic stuff …but that wouldn’t change the worrying lack of any checking of history if those tweets/views weren’t known…if they were known but it be deemed that this person still be employed by the police force then there there must be reasons for that considered decision being made and we’re only being given a part story by the media sources.…potentially following any quotas and employing correctly are two compatible things, they don’t work against each other and aren’t inter connected IMO….

My point is tat they appear to be more interested in box ticking than doing due diligence?

Every public service job will have quotas to fill so their work force is diverse, that doesn’t just apply to skin colour, but to age, religion, sexual orientation, gender etc

[Ammi]

…yeah, there are many ‘quotas’ in many areas… which is why for me there is no connection at all with diversity and/or any type of quota in this ‘apparent issue of an individual person’s unsuitable history’….it’s not a diversity or gender or age or sexuality etc issue….as I say, maybe there’ll be more information but atm, there’s nothing really else to add….any potential ‘investigation/answerability’ should be into how the employment came about as well….

[GoldHeart]

As a recruiter, I always check people's socials when I get their CVs in. Most people do lock them down when looking for a job....the one's that don't tend to be the ones that have email addresses on their CVs like "sexychick23@hotmail.com"

Its a minefield though... you have to be careful not to let any unconscious bias cloud any judgements.


I remember being told to always just use your name as an email for professional stuff ie CVs , applying for jobs etc . You're not going to be taken seriously if your email has swearing in it or anything innapropriate .

[Ammi]

…is that Annie giving her email out on the forum again…?….

[Cherie]

As a recruiter, I always check people's socials when I get their CVs in. Most people do lock them down when looking for a job....the one's that don't tend to be the ones that have email addresses on their CVs like "sexychick23@hotmail.com"

Its a minefield though... you have to be careful not to let any unconscious bias cloud any judgements.

LT exposed

[AnnieK]

…is that Annie giving her email out on the forum again…?….

:laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT exposed

i am a hot male

:drool:

[Crimson Dynamo]

well in the 90s

[AnnieK]

I remember being told to always just use your name as an email for professional stuff ie CVs , applying for jobs etc . You're not going to be taken seriously if your email has swearing in it or anything innapropriate .

You'd be surprised how many people have dodgy emails on their CVs...a lot with drug references too.

We always advise candidates change their email addresses and not add photos either.

[Oliver_W]

well in the 90s

You're in your 90s?!

[Crimson Dynamo]

You're in your 90s?!
:fist:

[Livia]

There are countless cases where positive discrimination has backfired and this looks to be one of those cases. She's a bigot and should never have been employed. Can't see how anyone could disagree with that. I guess it proves again that bigots aren't just white.

[Tom4784]

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[Mystic Mock]

My point is tat they appear to be more interested in box ticking than doing due diligence?

Every public service job will have quotas to fill so their work force is diverse, that doesn’t just apply to skin colour, but to age, religion, sexual orientation, gender etc

The top paragraph sounds similar to the new era of Doctor Who where they were all there just to tick boxes.:joker:

Tbf I can understand why the Police Force tries to be diverse, however terrorist lovers might be taking it just a step too far.:joker:

[Oliver_W]

There's a difference between making an effort to recruit more women or minorities ... And lowering or relaxing standards in order to do so.

[Cherie]

The top paragraph sounds similar to the new era of Doctor Who where they were all there just to tick boxes.:joker:

Tbf I can understand why the Police Force tries to be diverse, however terrorist lovers might be taking it just a step too far.:joker:

:laugh:

[Tom4784]

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[DouglasS]

There are countless cases where positive discrimination has backfired and this looks to be one of those cases. She's a bigot and should never have been employed. Can't see how anyone could disagree with that. I guess it proves again that bigots aren't just white.

:clap1:

[DouglasS]

It's quite racist to assume standards are being lowered to allow more minorities in, you're essentially suggesting they couldn't compete with white people and so the bar has to be lowered for them. Bit of a Freudian slip there.

Positive discrimination is exactly that, not always hiring the best person fit for the job, therefore a lower quality. This is obviously not always the case where the best candidate regardless of race or religion get the job, but some positive discrimination backfires as Livia said.

When I went to an assessment centre a few years ago, there was a total of about 12 of us, there were 11 guys and a black girl. They literally said they were keeping the girl to the final round to fit diversity quotas despite the fact she performed terribly :skull:. I am a firm believer of hiring the best person for the job. No one knows everyone’s back story, there may be applicants who are white who actually have never had a parent go to uni / be part of a poor developing neighbourhood and a company may actually be favouring a millionaires child as a form of positive discrimination because they are ethinically diverse

[Tom4784]

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[Ammi]

….this whole story isn’t about anything other than whether basic security checks were done for employment and ‘based on activity history’ and nothing else whatsoever…this could be someone with a different skin colour but the same activity being the thing and it would be equally concerning…employing for diversity is not the issue of the story ….what we’re being told is that the security screening/vetting etc just wasn’t carried out efficiently….that whole system of employment and everyone involved in it in the police force…are we saying that they’re all in their jobs because of ‘diversity targets and quotas…’…as well… is that why something that seems as though it was a basic history check for a high security position such as a police officer was apparently not carried out….?….because those involved in that employment process were all incorrectly placed in their screening and security roles, how ironic….and indeed a whole much bigger investigation than could ever have been imagined would be having to be looked at….


…we would hope that if 1000 people with any skin colour and any religion and any gender and etc ..were employed by the police force…?..every single one of them would have adequate security background/history/connections check and social media posting is an obvious source of checking, even to us who are t employing, it would be obvious and a basic …two years of social media history with some very concerning tweets in the vein of those tweets is such a basic thing and is it that they’ve been overlooked….that’s a basic security error or an inadequate vetting system that needs to be tightened…?….or is it that these things were known and found through the vetting and searches etc…but that the establishment felt that someone still had suitability for the role and we only have a part story that feels lacking but isn’t…?..….that’s the whole investigation that we don’t know because it’s yet to be established…an ‘urgent investigation’ shouldn’t be being carried out several years into an employment role because another source has uncovered but the police establishment didn’t ….the DM are saying that they’ve ‘uncovered something’ and that the police should surely have answers immediately to that without an ‘urgent Investigation’ being needed….the colour of her skin, her religion etc are not ‘the issue’…diversity is not the issue….security in police force employment vetting is the issue it would seem…

[bots]

i think the major issue is that a very significant proportion of the police would fail the criterea if full background checks were implemented. Imagine if say they had to sack 30% + of them which isn't an unrealistic percentage of "dodgy coppers"

[Oliver_W]

It's quite racist to assume standards are being lowered to allow more minorities in, you're essentially suggesting they couldn't compete with white people and so the bar has to be lowered for them. Bit of a Freudian slip there.

How else would she have slipped through the cracks?

[Swan]

Another racist cop then.

[Tom4784]

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[Alf]

A racism thread. Where are you in here, Slim? Is the accused not White enough for you. You're usually first on the scene to shout racism.

[The Slim Reaper]

A racism thread. Where are you in here, Slim? Is the accused not White enough for you. You're usually first on the scene to shout racism.

I'm going dizzy. One minute what I think means nothing to you, and the next you want to know what I think. I've been fighting the Rona so haven't been around at all over the last week before today.

Yes, she's a racist.

[thesheriff443]

I'm going dizzy. One minute what I think means nothing to you, and the next you want to know what I think. I've been fighting the Rona so haven't been around at all over the last week before today.

Yes, she's a racist.

Wishing you a speedy recovery

[Cherie]

Is your Ma recovered?

[The Slim Reaper]

Wishing you a speedy recovery

Cheers. Hasn't been that bad, but I wouldn't have liked to have faced it without the vaccine, as I've still been pretty rough. It's like having a bad cold without the snot.

Is your Ma recovered?

She's come through it without any real issues thankfully. She's been quite ill, because even a mild cold does her in, but it was the cough and chest issues with her breathing that we were most worried about, and she's been fine. She sounded really rough the first couple of days, but has been on the slow mend since, and is allowed out of isolation tomorrow.

[Niamh.]

I'm going dizzy. One minute what I think means nothing to you, and the next you want to know what I think. I've been fighting the Rona so haven't been around at all over the last week before today.

Yes, she's a racist.Hope you're OK? :love:

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[The Slim Reaper]

Hope you're OK? :love:

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Thank you - I think I'm gonna make it :laugh:

[Niamh.]

Thank you - I think I'm gonna make it [emoji23]Yay [emoji173] [emoji854]

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[Beso]

This is the same as letting useless kids think they are doing well during sports say.

Another egg wasted unnecessarily in the egg and spoon race.