Lord of the Rings TV series moves to the UK from NZ

[arista]

[Lord of the Rings: Amazon moves show to
UK from New Zealand]



[The company said the move was
part of a plan to expand its production
space and consolidate its footprint in the UK.

Amazon Studios spent $465m (£336.5m) on
the first season of the show.

With four more seasons expected to be made,
that would make it one of the most expensive
series in television history.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58196473

[James]

That's a huge amount for a TV show.

[Oliver_W]

As a Tolkien nerd I'm not especially looking forward to this. I find it bad enough when comics and books make little changes in adaption, all the changes reportedly happening here are waaaay too much. If they're not gonna respect the lore, they may as well make their own thing.

I'd still apply to be an Orc given the chance though :joker:

[bots]

As a Tolkien nerd I'm not especially looking forward to this. I find it bad enough when comics and books make little changes in adaption, all the changes reportedly happening here are waaaay too much. If they're not gonna respect the lore, they may as well make their own thing.

I'd still apply to be an Orc given the chance though :joker:

i think these tv series need to be considered in their own right. Is it enjoyable/entertaining. I'm lookig forward to it

[arista]

On BBC Media Show
BBCnewsHD

Spoke of this new Series
calling it the next big thing.

[arista]

Due to start on Amazon Prime
Sept 2, 2022

[Niamh.]

Can't wait for this

[Mystic Mock]

Hopefully it'll be good.

[bots]

this year is going to be amazing for new series, house of the dragon is due too

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[bots]

first trailer
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[arista]

Clever intro

[bots]

Fresh from comic con ....$1billion for the 5 series :laugh:

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/E9C2/production/_126024895_04d8aa2f-3622-4099-99d9-78ff8284fef6.jpg

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The Rings of Power is the most expensive show ever made, at $1bn (£832m) for five seasons - and this is fans' best guide to how it will look, sound and feel.

But what everyone really wants to know is, can it compete with Peter Jackson's beloved Lord of the Rings film trilogy, the winner of 17 Oscars, benchmark for composers, and populariser of second breakfast?

Wisely, it's not trying - instead setting the action 4,000 years before the Hobbits Frodo and Sam journeyed through Middle Earth.

This is the Second Age, where the 20 Rings of Power are forged and the evil Sauron, Lord of Mordor, rises to assault the realms' hard-won peace.

The source material is Tolkien's appendix to the Lord of the Rings books. The core question: "How far into the darkness would you go to protect the things you care about the most?" says McKay's fellow showrunner JD Payne.

It's a mix of new characters, some of them original to the show, and old favourites in younger form, like the immortal Elves Galadriel and Elrond (Morfydd Clark and Robert Aramayo), who are seen sharing a tender moment in one exclusive clip played at Comic-Con.

Another atmospheric scene showed Elrond and the dwarf King Durin IV (Owain Arthur) competing to split rocks in a high-stakes test of strength. And orcs - the blighted race that formed Sauron's army in Tolkien's books - featured in combat with the elf Arondir (Ismael Cruz Cordova) as he battles his way out of enslavement.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-62276842


I'm really looking forward to this

[ThomasC]

Due to start on Amazon Prime
Sept 22, 2022

Amazon prime is crap.

Netflix is much better.

I found lots of the rings boring in the first place so doubt I'll watch this. I only have prime for free delivery.

It would have made more sense for Netflix to do it. Much bigger audience.

[arista]

Amazon prime is crap.

Netflix is much better.

I found lots of the rings boring in the first place so doubt I'll watch this. I only have prime for free delivery.

It would have made more sense for Netflix to do it. Much bigger audience.

Netflix not doing so well.
Massive loss of customers.

Amazon Prime is doing good.

[arista]

Starts this Friday
2 Episodes on Amazon Prime.

Last night shown in Central London.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/08/31/05/61418771-11161719-Exciting_The_new_series_takes_place_thousands_of_y ears_before_th-a-199_1661920956511.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/08/31/05/61418775-11161719-Coming_soon_Lord_Of_The_Rings_The_Rings_Of_Power_i s_set_to_strea-a-200_1661920956527.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11161719/Jeff-Bezos-girlfriend-Lauren-Sanchez-step-red-carpet-LOTR-series-premiere-London.html

Amazon CEO Jeff and his new Girlfriend
were in this London event.

[Oliver_W]

It's gonna suck so bad...

I'll only be pirating it, I'm not giving it my clicks.

[bots]

i'm really looking forward to it, i think it will be great

[Oliver_W]

i'm really looking forward to it, i think it will be great

I'm a Tolkien nerd and don't even like the liberties that the LotR movies take :joker: if i could detach my brain and just watch it as a generic fantasy fan, I'd probably like it just fine.
But when every named character is wrong, and all species (including humans!) deviate from the "lore", it would just irritate me :laugh:

[hijaxers]

Some reviews say its brilliant others say it naff , will probably watch and make our own minds up. Hoping its good.

[Mystic Mock]

Amazon prime is crap.

Netflix is much better.

I found lots of the rings boring in the first place so doubt I'll watch this. I only have prime for free delivery.

It would have made more sense for Netflix to do it. Much bigger audience.

If Netflix was doing it it would take them 5 Seasons to get to what should've been the Season 1 finale.

Thank god they don't have it.

Although I am unfamiliar with Amazon Prime Shows.

[Mystic Mock]

Some reviews say its brilliant others say it naff , will probably watch and make our own minds up. Hoping its good.

The impression I'm getting personally from certain YouTube videos (and I'm guessing some critics are in this camp) want to dislike Rings Of Power because of how "woke" it is.

Don't get me wrong the Show could suck (tbh most Shows do suck nowadays imo) but in fairness I agree with you on just making your own mind up because there is definitely an agenda to hate this thing from some people.

[arista]

I will watch Later
when I have a break from work.

[Oliver_W]

The impression I'm getting personally from certain YouTube videos (and I'm guessing some critics are in this camp) want to dislike Rings Of Power because of how "woke" it is.

Don't lump the "anti-woke" types with those who criticise the show for having diversity which doesn't match up with the lore Tolkien created. The Numenoreans were explicitly white, even the Black Numenoreans. Elves and Dwarves pre-date the Sun, so they wouldn't be anything but white.

Black people just existing isn't woke, so using modern casting conventions as an excuse to pre-emptively hate the show is just stupid. Their casting makes no sense when looking at Middle Earth lore, but it's the Current Year so get over it :joker:

The casting isn't the source of my scepticism, but I can understand why other Tolkien nerds would have a problem with it.

[Oliver_W]

If the producers really had the balls to make a diverse show, they should have gone all the way and set it in Harad, which is Middle Earth's Africa. That way, they could have a majority black show! Make it about Sauron corrupting their people, and the two Blue Wizards fight against him.

Apart from broad strokes, there's so little Tolkien wrote about that, that they could basically write whatever they wanted without pissing people off.

[Mystic Mock]

Don't lump the "anti-woke" types with those who criticise the show for having diversity which doesn't match up with the lore Tolkien created. The Numenoreans were explicitly white, even the Black Numenoreans. Elves and Dwarves pre-date the Sun, so they wouldn't be anything but white.

Black people just existing isn't woke, so using modern casting conventions as an excuse to pre-emptively hate the show is just stupid. Their casting makes no sense when looking at Middle Earth lore, but it's the Current Year so get over it :joker:

The casting isn't the source of my scepticism, but I can understand why other Tolkien nerds would have a problem with it.

Look I get not liking the look of the Show, or hating the Show once watching it.

I just honestly don't get why some people on Social Media seemed to be hating it just purely off a Trailer.

[Mystic Mock]

If the producers really had the balls to make a diverse show, they should have gone all the way and set it in Harad, which is Middle Earth's Africa. That way, they could have a majority black show! Make it about Sauron corrupting their people, and the two Blue Wizards fight against him.

Apart from broad strokes, there's so little Tolkien wrote about that, that they could basically write whatever they wanted without pissing people off.

Tbh they wouldn't do a majority black show because nowadays in Hollywood everyone is a token.

[bots]

I've just finished the 1st episode and now on to the 2nd. I'm really enjoying it

[Niamh.]

Watched the 1st episode last night, slow mover so far (I won't judge it on that but so far House of the Dragon started better) It looks fantastic, I'm enjoying the new species(?) we didn't know in LOTRs. That's about all I can say so far about it as not a lot happened really, visually beautiful though

[bots]

Watched the 1st episode last night, slow mover so far (I won't judge it on that but so far House of the Dragon started better) It looks fantastic, I'm enjoying the new species(?) we didn't know in LOTRs. That's about all I can say so far about it as not a lot happened really, visually beautiful though

yes, its cinematic is how i would describe it. The 2nd episode builds a bit and I think the 3rd will be great

[Niamh.]

yes, its cinematic is how i would describe it. The 2nd episode builds a bit and I think the 3rd will be great

Great, I'll watch Ep 2 tonight (or maybe tomorrow night actually Liverpool match tonight :p )

[UserSince2005]

Are there any black hobbits because if not then then not watching this racist trash

[arista]

Are there any black hobbits because if not then then not watching this racist trash


I did not see any,
but I was not looking for any,

[UserSince2005]

I did not see any,
but I was not looking for any,

Disgusted, 50% or more have to black or it a racist tv show

[Niamh.]

Harfoots are a type of Hobbit and are described as having browner skin than other types of Hobbit.

https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Harfoots

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/08/19/23/61555991-11128855-image-a-13_1660949090008.jpg

[Niamh.]

With a weird Irish accent apparently :eyes:

[bots]

With a weird Irish accent apparently :eyes:

Lenny Henry

[arista]

Except Lenny Henry


Forgot him.

[UserSince2005]

Harfoots are a type of Hobbit and are described as having browner skin than other types of Hobbit.

https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Harfoots

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/08/19/23/61555991-11128855-image-a-13_1660949090008.jpg

could do with being a bit darker, but this is good news.

[Niamh.]

Except Lenny Henry


Forgot him.There was more than just Lenny Henry

[bots]

The 3rd episode is brilliant!

[bots]

i'm really enjoying this series

[Niamh.]

i'm really enjoying this series

Yeah started picking up in Ep 3, they're really worlds to get lost in

[Oliver_W]

I kind of feel like it's "not made for" Tolkien Nerds such as I, for all I can see is all the things they're getting wrong :joker: Galadriel and Elrond were never really like that, especially at the time in which the show is set.

Like I get that the showrunners only have the rights to Hobbit, LotR, and the Appendecies; they literally can't adapt anything from the Silmarillion, it has to be based on what's written in those books or fully made up by themselves. But still! It's at least pretending to be set in Arda. That said, it may as well be a generic fantasy, hardly anything really cements it in Tolkien's writing.

But worst of all, I find it a bit boring. There are hardly any engaging or likable characters. Galadriel seems like she's about to demand to see the manager :joker: Elrond is a moron. I guess I like the Dwarf Queen, and Lenny Henry would be likeable even if he played an SS officer.

[bots]

i'm just enjoying the series for what it is :shrug:

[Oliver_W]

Nah it's mostly a Me-Thing rather than the show's fault :joker:

[Niamh.]

Ok last episode was boring as **** tbh. Doesn't hold a candle to HOTD

[Oliver_W]

Ok last episode was boring as **** tbh. Doesn't hold a candle to HOTDYeah, basically all of the characters are still in exactly the same place at the end of ep5 than they were at the end of ep4.

It says a lot that HoD has a sprawling discussion thread, here and other fora of which I'm a member, while RoP just stagnates.

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[Niamh.]

Yeah, basically all of the characters are still in exactly the same place at the end of ep5 than they were at the end of ep4.

It says a lot that HoD has a sprawling discussion thread, here and other fora of which I'm a member, while RoP just stagnates.

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There's really nothing to say a part from it looking nice and even that's getting annoying now :laugh: The dramatic music with the beauty shot. I watched HOTD and ROP back to back on Tuesday and when HOTD ended I was like ah damn is it over already but during ROP I found myself checking to see how long was left

[bots]

yeah i was expecting more of the last episode, it just didnt do anything

[bots]

much better episode this week

[Oliver_W]

Saaaaake, yet another episode where basically nothing happens. The plot basically meandered at a standstill, there was no particular character development...

All this one actually achieved was the discovery of more Mithril, and the SHOCKING REVEALATION that the Southlands are now Mordor. Both of which could have fitted into last episode, at the expense of the awful stretched out dialogue.

I mean, I get the writers are trying to sound Shakespearean, and fit the dialogue to poetic rhythm, but... they suck at it :joker:

Side note, the sexy evil elf is more likeable than any of the so-called protagonists. His motivation is he wants to give "his children" a home.
Galadriel's motivation? She wants to torture him, keep him alive and taunt him with the deaths of all "his children", before finally slaying him... that's not heroic, that's evil.
And worse, that's not Galadriel. The actual Galadriel would either slay him on the spot, or imprisoned him. When Gollum was in the custody of the Wood Elves, he was treated very kindly indeed. So it might even help him to repent, and tell her things which would help...

[bots]

i gave up on this episode half way through :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

It's over, and it still sucks :joker:

Eight episodes with so much plotless meandering, the actual story could have been told in three. Ugly elf wasn't in this one, and I can't even remember where he went :laugh: the Harfoots were pointless, their story didn't connect to the main plot at all.

Even the directors were crap. Nothing felt significant, moments of padding were given as much weight as the important bits.

[bots]

i didnt watch it this week after abandoning it last week

[Oliver_W]

i didnt watch it this week after abandoning it last week

To save you the time:

Elrond was chucked out of the mines, but he managed to get a lump of Mithril.

The Elves wanted to turn it into (after some discussion) three crowns, and then after more discussion, Rings. But there wasn't enough metal to do so.

Fake Aragorn was Sauron all along. He gave the Elven smiths some hints as how to make the Mithril stretch out - mix it with other metals. He was indeed wise and revolutionary...

Galadrial recognised some of the words the Ringsmith used to describe their power as coming from Sauron, and she... looked on Wikipedia? And learned that the bloodline had died out for the Kings of the Southlands, so he couldn't possibly be one. Cue the "big reveal".

Eminem was a member of a Cult of Sauron, and thought Meteor Man was him. He's not. The cultists then recognised him as an Istar, which means he's either Gandalf, Saruman, Radagast, or one of the Blue Wizards. I'd go with the latter, as Meteor Man disappeared into the sunset, heading to Rhun, along with Fake Frodo. Rhun is Middle Earth's Asia, and in Tolkien canon, the Blue Wizards were mostly working there and Harad (Africa).

The series ended with Mount Doom flaring up ...

[arista]

i didnt watch it this week after abandoning it last week


How Strange


I am the same.


Must be something about this series
that has failed?

[Mystic Mock]

I've watched the first 2 episodes and so far I think it's decent.

It hasn't blown my mind away, but the worldbuilding and the mystery around who Sauron is, is interesting me personally.