Trans woman who sparked a riot after exposing her erect penis to a young girl Charged

[Niamh.]

I hope that guy in the Spa who tried to tell the women complaining that a sex offender had every right to be in the changing room flashing young girls feels good about himself. Also referring to this guy in the article as "she" is offensive to women and should also be offensive to genuine trans women. It's making a mockery of the whole thing not to mention messing with the statistics of sex offenders by sex

Trans woman who sparked a riot after 'exposing her erect penis to a young girl in women's section of LA spa' is named as a registered sex offender and CHARGED with indecent exposure

Four women and an underage girl have come forward to allege that Darren Agee Merager, 52, was partially erect in the women's section of Wi Spa
Merager, who resides in Riverside, California, denied the allegations and said that she is actually the victim of transphobic harassment
Merager has a long criminal history that includes nearly a dozen felony convictions for crimes ranging from sex offenses to burglary and escape
She is also facing six felony counts of indecent exposure over a separate locker room incident in December 2018, and pled not guilty on all counts
A tier-one registered sex offender, Merager already has two prior convictions of indecent exposure stemming from incidents in 2002 and 2003 in California
The LAPD said that the investigation regarding the Wi Spa incident is still currently 'ongoing,' and warrant is out for Merager's arrest
Merager says she may file complaints or lawsuits for discrimination that she says she has been made to suffer by law enforcement and women in the Wi Spa

Months after a trans woman allegedly exposed herself in front of several spa-goers at Wi Spa in Los Angeles—including an underage girl—charges have finally been filed, with serial sex offender Darren Agee Merager, 52, being identified as the sole suspect in the highly publicized, incident.

What's more, in addition to being a suspect in the case, Merager is facing MULTIPLE felony charges of indecent exposure in regards to a separate incident in Los Angeles.

In addition to charges stemming from the Wi Spa altercation, she is also facing six felony counts of indecent exposure over a separate locker room incident in December 2018.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/09/02/19/47437295-9951917-image-a-10_1630606752658.jpg

In that particular incident, Merager is accused of indecent exposure to women and children in a changing area at a swimming pool in West Hollywood Park—eerily similar to the occurrence at the spa.

'Merager claims to identify as female so he can access women's locker rooms and showers,' reads an internal flyer by the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department that was sent to law enforcement departments in Southern California in late 2018, in regards to the indecent exposure at West Hollywood Park.

Despite his checkered background, though, Merager is maintaining his innocence in the Wi Spa debacle, telling The New York Post that she is actually the victim—of transphobic harassment.

Back in June, a group of women complained that Merager, who identifies as female, exposed her penis at the Los Angeles spa.

The incident led to months of protests—some of them violent—with a multitude of media outlets declaring the alleged assault an example of bias against the transgendered; or worse, that it didn't even happen.

However, on Monday, charges of indecent exposure were filed against Merager, following an investigation by the Los Angeles Police Department.

Sources close the case but not authorized to speak publicly told The Post that four women and a young girl came forward to allege that Merager was partially erect in the women's section of Wi Spa.

On June 23, a group of women attending the spa confronted staff over accusations that a person exposed their penis in the women's section.

Video of the interaction was posted the following day on Instagram by a woman using the name 'Cubana Angel.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9951917/Trans-woman-sparked-outrage-exposing-penis-LA-spa-named-CHARGED-indecent-exposure.html?fbclid=IwAR2XZgzuOOY0tuwHNGk81U0P9j2 5SWBgSDESvod-Fx1yRC1QvZjRDP6OLFg

[Cherie]

I hope that guy in the Spa who tried to tell the women complaining that a sex offender had every right to be in the changing room flashing young girls feels good about himself. Also referring to this guy in the article as "she" is offensive to women and should also be offensive to genuine trans women. It's making a mockery of the whole thing not to mention messing with the statistics of sex offenders by sex

Trans woman who sparked a riot after 'exposing her erect penis to a young girl in women's section of LA spa' is named as a registered sex offender and CHARGED with indecent exposure

Four women and an underage girl have come forward to allege that Darren Agee Merager, 52, was partially erect in the women's section of Wi Spa
Merager, who resides in Riverside, California, denied the allegations and said that she is actually the victim of transphobic harassment
Merager has a long criminal history that includes nearly a dozen felony convictions for crimes ranging from sex offenses to burglary and escape
She is also facing six felony counts of indecent exposure over a separate locker room incident in December 2018, and pled not guilty on all counts
A tier-one registered sex offender, Merager already has two prior convictions of indecent exposure stemming from incidents in 2002 and 2003 in California
The LAPD said that the investigation regarding the Wi Spa incident is still currently 'ongoing,' and warrant is out for Merager's arrest
Merager says she may file complaints or lawsuits for discrimination that she says she has been made to suffer by law enforcement and women in the Wi Spa

Months after a trans woman allegedly exposed herself in front of several spa-goers at Wi Spa in Los Angeles—including an underage girl—charges have finally been filed, with serial sex offender Darren Agee Merager, 52, being identified as the sole suspect in the highly publicized, incident.

What's more, in addition to being a suspect in the case, Merager is facing MULTIPLE felony charges of indecent exposure in regards to a separate incident in Los Angeles.

In addition to charges stemming from the Wi Spa altercation, she is also facing six felony counts of indecent exposure over a separate locker room incident in December 2018.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/09/02/19/47437295-9951917-image-a-10_1630606752658.jpg

In that particular incident, Merager is accused of indecent exposure to women and children in a changing area at a swimming pool in West Hollywood Park—eerily similar to the occurrence at the spa.

'Merager claims to identify as female so he can access women's locker rooms and showers,' reads an internal flyer by the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department that was sent to law enforcement departments in Southern California in late 2018, in regards to the indecent exposure at West Hollywood Park.

Despite his checkered background, though, Merager is maintaining his innocence in the Wi Spa debacle, telling The New York Post that she is actually the victim—of transphobic harassment.

Back in June, a group of women complained that Merager, who identifies as female, exposed her penis at the Los Angeles spa.

The incident led to months of protests—some of them violent—with a multitude of media outlets declaring the alleged assault an example of bias against the transgendered; or worse, that it didn't even happen.

However, on Monday, charges of indecent exposure were filed against Merager, following an investigation by the Los Angeles Police Department.

Sources close the case but not authorized to speak publicly told The Post that four women and a young girl came forward to allege that Merager was partially erect in the women's section of Wi Spa.

On June 23, a group of women attending the spa confronted staff over accusations that a person exposed their penis in the women's section.

Video of the interaction was posted the following day on Instagram by a woman using the name 'Cubana Angel.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9951917/Trans-woman-sparked-outrage-exposing-penis-LA-spa-named-CHARGED-indecent-exposure.html?fbclid=IwAR2XZgzuOOY0tuwHNGk81U0P9j2 5SWBgSDESvod-Fx1yRC1QvZjRDP6OLFg

Didn't that poor woman get abused and called all sorts for daring to raise (pardon the pun) the issue

[arista]

Her Erect Penis

Does not sound right?

[Niamh.]

Didn't that poor woman get abused and called all sorts for daring to raise (pardon the pun) the issue

Yep. Women aren't allowed to complain about men sexually harassing them anymore Karen. Same old misogyny different package. Who'd have thought all men had to do this time was say "she exposed her penis" and hey presto no crime here

[Cherie]

This is the same story I believe

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=376522&highlight=wi+spa+protests&page=2

[Cherie]

Yep. Women aren't allowed to complain about men sexually harassing them anymore Karen. Same old misogyny different package. Who'd have thought all men had to do this time was say "she exposed her penis" and hey presto no crime here

Thank you Karen :laugh: remember when we said the self ID system was completely open to abuse and was not good for women or trans women, but all we got was a shedload of abuse.

[Niamh.]

This is the same story I believe

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=376522&highlight=wi+spa+protests&page=2

Yeah that's the one.

[jet]

"Despite his checkered background, though, Merager is maintaining his innocence in the Wi Spa debacle, telling The New York Post that she is actually the victim—of transphobic harassment".

Unbelievable. This from a serial flasher. Nobody with a penis should be allowed to enter a female changing room where women need to feel comfortable in any case. Whether they identify as a he or a 'she'.

[Niamh.]

Thank you Karen :laugh: remember when we said the self ID system was completely open to abuse and was not good for women or trans women, but all we got was a shedload of abuse.

Not to worry I'm sure this one will also be a freak incident and putting women and girls at risk is still worth it in order to save men's feelings

[Cherie]

Not to worry I'm sure this one will also be a freak incident and putting women and girls at risk is still worth it in order to save men's feelings

oh 100% a one off when in reality people are afraid to speak out for fear of being labelled and losing their jobs

[Niamh.]

The sad thing about it though is if he does get a prison sentence he'll probably be put in a female prison

[bots]

i despair

[user104658]

This can't be true because it's actually impossible for people with nefarious intentions to abuse an open system of self-identification.

The sad thing is, this is truly awful for trans rights and yet many people will still argue for self-ID and full unquestioning access to female only spaces. It will start to snowball, there will be more examples like this, and eventually trans rights will be knocked backwards 20 years, not improved.

[Niamh.]

This can't be true because it's actually impossible for people with nefarious intentions to abuse an open system of self-identification.

The sad thing is, this is truly awful for trans rights and yet many people will still argue for self-ID and full unquestioning access to female only spaces. It will start to snowball, there will be more examples like this, and eventually trans rights will be knocked backwards 20 years, not improved.

Yeah, I don't believe the people who started this whole movement ever really cared for trans rights in the first place. I don't think that's what it was ever really about

[Livia]

This can't be true because it's actually impossible for people with nefarious intentions to abuse an open system of self-identification.

The sad thing is, this is truly awful for trans rights and yet many people will still argue for self-ID and full unquestioning access to female only spaces. It will start to snowball, there will be more examples like this, and eventually trans rights will be knocked backwards 20 years, not improved.

Got to agree with this.

I kind of hope the next time some freak (and I mean freak, I don't mean genuine transsexuals) flops out his penis in a woman-only space, someone rips it off.

[michael21]

Her Erect Penis

Does not sound right?

Sign of the times

[user104658]

Somewhat alarmingly, there's an increasing rhetoric that "autogynephilia" (essentially, straight men being sexually aroused by the concept of themself as a woman) is a legitimate and acceptable branch of transexuality and that any rhetoric to the contrary is kink-shaming and/or transphobic.

I can't honestly fathom how any genuinely trans individual could find this to be anything other than extremely offensive, and damaging to anyone who is seeking sex reassignment, and yet, it is very much entering the zeitgeist as a completely legitimate reason for a male to be considered a woman. It's proudly in people's twitter bios at this point.

The endpoint of extreme hyperindividualism. Actually no that's a bit ambitious. There are other things lurking if you take an internet deep dive - but I don't recommend it.

[Niamh.]

Somewhat alarmingly, there's an increasing rhetoric that "autogynephilia" (essentially, straight men being sexually aroused by the concept of themself as a woman) is a legitimate and acceptable branch of transexuality and that any rhetoric to the contrary is kink-shaming and/or transphobic.

I can't honestly fathom how any genuinely trans individual could find this to be anything other than extremely offensive, and damaging to anyone who is seeking sex reassignment, and yet, it is very much entering the zeitgeist as a completely legitimate reason for a male to be considered a woman. It's proudly in people's twitter bios at this point.

The endpoint of extreme hyperindividualism. Actually no that's a bit ambitious. There are other things lurking if you take an internet deep dive - but I don't recommend it.

I mean it's bad enough when women try to speak out about this stuff but can you imagine how hard it must be for trans people to? Some are speaking up now they have the label "Truscum" when they do. Nice.

[Liam-]

Got what they deserved.

It’s just a shame that people are now going to use this as an example in their anti-trans tirades, just like people did back in the day before gays were treated like humans.

[Niamh.]

Got what they deserved.

It’s just a shame that people are now going to use this as an example in their anti-trans tirades, just like people did back in the day before gays were treated like humans.

No Liam, people are going to use this as an example of how easy it is to abuse a Self ID system.

[Livia]

Got what they deserved.

It’s just a shame that people are now going to use this as an example in their anti-trans tirades, just like people did back in the day before gays were treated like humans.

Similarly, women have been subjugated for centuries... and some men still seem to think that they have rights over them. This kind of act impacts women and genuine trans people and I think most people can see that. Of course there is that section of society who hate everyone who's different and latch on to any story that fits their agenda.

[user104658]

No Liam, people are going to use this as an example of how easy it is to abuse a Self ID system.

Exactly, and it will still be framed as an anti-trans "tirade" to voice concerns, even with clear illustrative examples of why those concerns exist.

[Liam-]

No Liam, people are going to use this as an example of how easy it is to abuse a Self ID system.

Some people will for sure, but let’s not pretend that some people don’t wait with baited breath for stories like this, just so they can use it as another stick to beat the trans community with

[Niamh.]

Some people will for sure, but let’s not pretend that some people don’t wait with baited breath for stories like this, just so they can use it as another stick to beat the trans community with

Well I can only speak for myself here and as a woman and as a mother of a daughter my only interest in this issue is protecting women and girls rights and keeping women and girls safe, not beating any community with a stick.

[user104658]

Some people will for sure, but let’s not pretend that some people don’t wait with baited breath for stories like this, just so they can use it as another stick to beat the trans community with

I think that's probably true, and then those with genuine concerns are lumped in with those individuals and all are branded as one and the same group without discussion or consideration. But that's just a feature of social media in general, I suppose. Still, it's a fundamentally vicious circle.

[Beso]

Dirty beast.

[Oliver_W]

Males simply don't belong in woman-only spaces, especially ones where they're exposed and/or vulnerable. Not "even" males who identify as transwomen.

[rusticgal]

I recall seeing the video....good I am glad she has been charged. That just wasn't acceptable.

[Alf]

Somewhat alarmingly, there's an increasing rhetoric that "autogynephilia" (essentially, straight men being sexually aroused by the concept of themself as a woman) is a legitimate and acceptable branch of transexuality and that any rhetoric to the contrary is kink-shaming and/or transphobic.

I can't honestly fathom how any genuinely trans individual could find this to be anything other than extremely offensive, and damaging to anyone who is seeking sex reassignment, and yet, it is very much entering the zeitgeist as a completely legitimate reason for a male to be considered a woman. It's proudly in people's twitter bios at this point.

The endpoint of extreme hyperindividualism. Actually no that's a bit ambitious. There are other things lurking if you take an internet deep dive - but I don't recommend it.What on God's Green Earth is "kink shaming" that's a new one for me, have you just made that up?

[user104658]

What on God's Green Earth is "kink shaming" that's a new one for me, have you just made that up?

"Kink shaming" is essentially the idea that what one likes to get up to sexually is their own business and beyond criticism. Which is of course largely true I think, in terms of people's actual private life, so long as it only involves consenting individuals, however it has sort of branched out into it not being OK to "kink shame" in any circumstance. e.g. let's say a school teacher puts all over his open facebook that he's into rope bondage, his pupils see it, parents complain to the school - they might then be accused of "kink shaming". In terms of autogynephilia it's basically biological males being turned on by the idea of themself as a woman and in some cases going so far as to head down the trans route for purely for sexualised reasons... and if anyone has a problem with them openly doing that - including getting sexual gratification from using women's only spaces... it's transphobia/kink shaming. In other words, you're not allowed to call someone out even if other unconsenting parties are part of their kink.

My opinion is that these are not genuine trans individuals, they've hijacked it as their own cause and pursue it aggressively. They're the "Shut up TERF I'm going to rape you with my lady**** " crowd that pops up on twitter if someone says anything gender critical.

It's a mess.

But no I didn't make it up.

[Alf]

"Kink shaming" is essentially the idea that what one likes to get up to sexually is their own business and beyond criticism. Which is of course largely true I think, in terms of people's actual private life, so long as it only involves consenting individuals, however it has sort of branched out into it not being OK to "kink shame" in any circumstance. e.g. let's say a school teacher puts all over his open facebook that he's into rope bondage, his pupils see it, parents complain to the school - they might then be accused of "kink shaming". In terms of autogynephilia it's basically biological males being turned on by the idea of themself as a woman and in some cases going so far as to head down the trans route for purely for sexualised reasons... and if anyone has a problem with them openly doing that - including getting sexual gratification from using women's only spaces... it's transphobia/kink shaming. In other words, you're not allowed to call someone out even if other unconsenting parties are part of their kink.

My opinion is that these are not genuine trans individuals, they've hijacked it as their own cause and pursue it aggressively. They're the "Shut up TERF I'm going to rape you with my lady**** " crowd that pops up on twitter if someone says anything gender critical.

It's a mess.

But no I didn't make it up.It sounds to me that "kink shaming" is just verbally insulting someone, which for me comes under free speech. We can't have an heirachy when it comes to insulting somebody. You might not like what they say but they should be free to say it.

[Captain.Remy]

I do hope the victims feel better and will get justice for what happened. Whether it's from a trans person or not, a sexual offense is a terrible thing to experience. So I hope they will be alright.

It's unfortunately a case that makes the trans community look bad and is wrongly assimilated to sex offenders like that person.
The trans people I work with are horrified every time a news like that is coming out. They're scared enough for their rights for those kind of events to create even more fear and hatred.

And the Self ID concept is also very debated within the trans community because a lot of them do want at least a form of medical follow-up to be able to legally change the gender on official documents.
There is a whole range of measures that can be taken to do that, from Self ID to requiring proof of gender reassignment surgery, with different steps in between. So it's not just one view vs another view, it's more so a complex topic that needs to be adressed by all parties in good spirits.

[Captain.Remy]

It sounds to me that "kink shaming" is just verbally insulting someone, which for me comes under free speech. We can't have an heirachy when it comes to insulting somebody. You might not like what they say but they should be free to say it.

This should help:
https://metro.co.uk/2018/04/06/kink-shaming-care-7445761/

[Alf]

This should help:
https://metro.co.uk/2018/04/06/kink-shaming-care-7445761/Is there a big ears or big nose shaming? What about a rubbish acting or singing shaming? Is there a being a male shaming? Or being a little Englander shaming?

Or are some animals more equal than the others?

[Alf]

I do hope the victims feel better and will get justice for what happened. Whether it's from a trans person or not, a sexual offense is a terrible thing to experience. So I hope they will be alright.

It's unfortunately a case that makes the trans community look bad and is wrongly assimilated to sex offenders like that person.
The trans people I work with are horrified every time a news like that is coming out. They're scared enough for their rights for those kind of events to create even more fear and hatred.

And the Self ID concept is also very debated within the trans community because a lot of them do want at least a form of medical follow-up to be able to legally change the gender on official documents.
There is a whole range of measures that can be taken to do that, from Self ID to requiring proof of gender reassignment surgery, with different steps in between. So it's not just one view vs another view, it's more so a complex topic that needs to be adressed by all parties in good spirits.You should explain to your trans friends who you work with that they shouldn't Feel guilty or ashamed for something that some other human-being did. And you should tell them that their rights are exactly the same as everybody else's rights. They have equal rights to me. I have no rights that they don't have, we're equal.

Maybe they should start being trans-individuals instead of belonging to a trans-community with people they don't even know, who could be criminals, like in this case.

Just a suggestion.

[Mystic Mock]

Obviously nobody should be flashing their bits at people without their consent.

Hopefully the Media doesn't use this case to demonize all Trans people though.

[Mystic Mock]

Her Erect Penis

Does not sound right?

You've clearly never watched Bible Black, Arista.:joker:

Lucky you I say.

[Niamh.]

I do hope the victims feel better and will get justice for what happened. Whether it's from a trans person or not, a sexual offense is a terrible thing to experience. So I hope they will be alright.

It's unfortunately a case that makes the trans community look bad and is wrongly assimilated to sex offenders like that person.
The trans people I work with are horrified every time a news like that is coming out. They're scared enough for their rights for those kind of events to create even more fear and hatred.

And the Self ID concept is also very debated within the trans community because a lot of them do want at least a form of medical follow-up to be able to legally change the gender on official documents.
There is a whole range of measures that can be taken to do that, from Self ID to requiring proof of gender reassignment surgery, with different steps in between. So it's not just one view vs another view, it's more so a complex topic that needs to be adressed by all parties in good spirits.

This is what I mean about Self ID actually hurting genuine trans people. It leaves the door wide open for people like the guy in the OP to abuse and it strongly restricts people's (mainly women and girls in situations like these) ability to even complain about a man flashing young girls in a changing room. You can clearly see that from the video that was posted after the incident, the staff wouldn't even tell the guy to leave and some other male customer even went so far as to defend the flasher against the women complaining.

[user104658]

This is what I mean about Self ID actually hurting genuine trans people. It leaves the door wide open for people like the guy in the OP to abuse and it strongly restricts people's (mainly women and girls in situations like these) ability to even complain about a man flashing young girls in a changing room. You can clearly see that from the video that was posted after the incident, the staff wouldn't even tell the guy to leave and some other male customer even went so far as to defend the flasher against the women complaining.

The alarming part is that often it's not even down to what the staff want to do; people have been successfully terrified into not taking action in these situations because they're afraid that they'll be harassed out of their job, or their employer will be harassed into firing them, or that they'll be straight up doxxed online and get personal threats... or even that they'll face legal consequences. Mainly because all of these things have actually happened to people.

[Niamh.]

The alarming part is that often it's not even down to what the staff want to do; people have been successfully terrified into not taking action in these situations because they're afraid that they'll be harassed out of their job, or their employer will be harassed into firing them, or that they'll be straight up doxxed online and get personal threats... or even that they'll face legal consequences. Mainly because all of these things have actually happened to people.

Yep I can absolutely understand that too. It's just mental that we're even in this kind of a situation tbh I read a tweet earlier where someone posted about how quick the #metoo movement is forgotten about. Women complain of sexual harassment and are called names and told to shut up. That's about a 50 year step backwards

[Cherie]

I do hope the victims feel better and will get justice for what happened. Whether it's from a trans person or not, a sexual offense is a terrible thing to experience. So I hope they will be alright.

It's unfortunately a case that makes the trans community look bad and is wrongly assimilated to sex offenders like that person.
The trans people I work with are horrified every time a news like that is coming out. They're scared enough for their rights for those kind of events to create even more fear and hatred.

And the Self ID concept is also very debated within the trans community because a lot of them do want at least a form of medical follow-up to be able to legally change the gender on official documents.
There is a whole range of measures that can be taken to do that, from Self ID to requiring proof of gender reassignment surgery, with different steps in between. So it's not just one view vs another view, it's more so a complex topic that needs to be adressed by all parties in good spirits.


Tbh it would be great to have a conversation in good spirits, the problem is it seems we can’t, Just taking this case in isolation, there should have been an immediate red flag for the staff that this person exposed themselves, my feeling is pre op trans women would be respectful of being in a shared female space,we, men and women have all managed to change in a communal space or at the beach without exposing ourselves so to my mind this was a deliberate act which was then dealt with appallingly by the staff probably due to some of the reasons TS outlined above, so until we can move on from name calling or worse we are where we are

[Captain.Remy]

Tbh it would be great to have a conversation in good spirits, the problem is it seems we can’t, Just taking this case in isolation, there should have been an immediate red flag for the staff that this person exposed themselves, my feeling is pre op trans women would be respectful of being in a shared female space,we, men and women have all managed to change in a communal space or at the beach without exposing ourselves so to my mind this was a deliberate act which was then dealt with appallingly by the staff probably due to some of the reasons TS outlined above, so until we can move on from name calling or worse we are where we are

I believe both parties can't have a proper conversation currently and it's mostly due to social media amplifying everything and resorting to name calling way too easily.

Social media is not the best media to have any kind of serious conversation to begin with, let alone a discussion about rights in general.

At the shelter for LGBT+ people I partially work for, we try to organize debates based on those issues and I remember we hosted a discussion between cis women and trans women one day. Both groups had strong opinions but in the end it turned out to be super respectful and everyone got to talk.
No name calling and if I remember correctly the outcome was that more gender neutral places should exist. And both groups now walk together at Pride and at walks for womens rights etc
It's just an example and one of many possible outcomes but I feel like open face to face discussions do more good than bad.

[Cherie]

I believe both parties can't have a proper conversation currently and it's mostly due to social media amplifying everything and resorting to name calling way too easily.

Social media is not the best media to have any kind of serious conversation to begin with, let alone a discussion about rights in general.

At the shelter for LGBT+ people I partially work for, we try to organize debates based on those issues and I remember we hosted a discussion between cis women and trans women one day. Both groups had strong opinions but in the end it turned out to be super respectful and everyone got to talk.
No name calling and if I remember correctly the outcome was that more gender neutral places should exist. And both groups now walk together at Pride and at walks for womens rights etc
It's just an example and one of many possible outcomes but I feel like open face to face discussions do more good than bad.

190 per cent agree with social media not being the correct forum, it’s not that easy to issue labels when discussing an issue face to face, and people are more opened to hearing concerns from both sides, woman have always stood by the LBQT community which is why I find it odd that we are in some quarters now the enemy

[Crimson Dynamo]

we all said this would happen with this woke madness and here we all are

[Elliot]

Got what they deserved.

It’s just a shame that people are now going to use this as an example in their anti-trans tirades, just like people did back in the day before gays were treated like humans.

As usual. It’s tiring honestly. Don’t these miserable white women have anything else to complain about

[AnnieK]

As usual. It’s tiring honestly. Don’t these miserable white women have anything else to complain about

Which miserable white women? The ones who were victims (including an underage girl) of indecent exposure? Or the miserable woman who exposed herself repeatedly if the charges are correct?

[user104658]

As usual. It’s tiring honestly. Don’t these miserable white women have anything else to complain about

You mean other than petty things like wanting to ensure the safety of womens-only spaces from sexual predators? I imagine they have plenty more to complain about, but not much that's more important. Your male-centric privilege absolutely reeks Elliot.

I'll tell you what's tiring. Having to listen to little mini-rants from someone who I'm convinced simply downloaded their entire personality in PDF format.

[Niamh.]

As usual. It’s tiring honestly. Don’t these miserable white women have anything else to complain aboutActually the women who complained in the Gym were black

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[user104658]

Actually the women who complained in the Gym were black

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/--WnXcGeVbY0/WV0s81ckOSI/AAAAAAAABn4/NS9mwlT6anUojdZaFVaYXtkRlI2J4aCPwCEwYBhgL/s1600/krytenheadexplode.gif

[Crimson Dynamo]

As usual. It’s tiring honestly. Don’t these miserable white women have anything else to complain about

I wondered when this would happen

:skull:

[Cherie]

As usual. It’s tiring honestly. Don’t these miserable white women have anything else to complain about


We will keep you tired don’t worry, small issue of hard fought women’s rights at stake..If that’s being miserable I will take it over your narrow mind any day

[Beso]

We will keep you tired don’t worry, small issue of hard fought women’s rights at stake..If that’s being miserable I will take it over your narrow mind any day

Imagine if you were black and having to defend that sort of idiotic statement cherie!!

[Ninastar]

Yeah didn’t y’all know that it’s only white people who can be problematic??

[Beso]

Yeah didn’t y’all know that it’s only white people who can be problematic??



Elliot's well out of order with what he sad.

[Cherie]

Imagine if you were black and having to defend that sort of idiotic statement cherie!!

What Elliott seems to fails to comprehend is that women’s rights protect all women however they got there ..so we should all be on the same page against predators and people who abuse the system, we don’t live in Utopia!

[Beso]

What Elliott seems to fails to comprehend is that women’s rights protect all women however they got there ..so we should all be on the same page against predators and people who abuse the system, we don’t live in Utopia!

Shush you, you're to privaliged to have problems.:nono:

[Cherie]

Shush you, you're to privaliged to have problems.:nono:

Seems so

[Niamh.]

What Elliott seems to fails to comprehend is that women’s rights protect all women however they got there ..so we should all be on the same page against predators and people who abuse the system, we don’t live in Utopia!We are on the same page, there are plenty of Black women speaking up as well, (literally this story as an example) Elliot ignores that each time I point it out though because it doesn't suit his narrative. News flash - Black women don't want men flashing them and their daughters either.

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[Marsh.]

Actually the women who complained in the Gym were black

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Shots. Fired.

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