Lack of Lorry Drivers has held back Petrol, Ports (Public Panic)

[arista]

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[Cherie]

Think I will get my HGV licence

[Zizu]

Think I will get my HGV licence


Only 1% of HGV drivers are female ..

Dangerous job though ..unless you have a co- driver


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[arista]

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[arista]

Think I will get my HGV licence


You would earn Big money

[michael21]

You would earn Big money

Not the way she drives :hehe:

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Bloody hell !


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[arista]

Around 100,000
drivers short all the press are saying.

But last night
on Newsnight BBC2HD Conservative Bridgen MP was claiming
only half of the drivers chose to work?

[user104658]

Effects of Brexit truly starting to hit now. It’s quite worrying and only going to get worse.

[arista]

Effects of Brexit truly starting to hit now. It’s quite worrying and only going to get worse.


But it's well known
the HGV licences were Halted at the Start of Covid-19

Of course Foreign Drivers have gone home
but they also have shortage in Europe

[arista]

[Motorists told to 'carry on as normal' when buying
fuel after BP shuts some petrol stations]

https://news.sky.com/story/motorists-told-to-carry-on-as-normal-when-buying-fuel-after-bp-shut-some-petrol-stations-12416215

[thesheriff443]

Effects of Brexit truly starting to hit now. It’s quite worrying and only going to get worse.

It’s a bump in the road ts it’s not a terminal cancer diagnosis

The roads are full of idiots on racing’s bikes these days instead of them thinking they are doing the Tour de France they can go to work or shops on them

[Crimson Dynamo]

didnt i hear its like at a few forecourts down south?

The papers love this new narrative of fear now that they have spent on covid

[arista]

didnt i hear its like at a few forecourts down south?

The papers love this new narrative of fear now that they have spent on covid


Yes BP said its 5.


Tesco and others also hit.

[thesheriff443]

didnt i hear its like at a few forecourts down south?

The papers love this new narrative of fear now that they have spent on covid

I’m down south and I can confirm some forecourts have got none or very little and some have all pumps working

[Kazanne]

didnt i hear its like at a few forecourts down south?

The papers love this new narrative of fear now that they have spent on covid

Fear mongering by the press again LT, there will only be a shortage if people panic buy and you can be sure they will,then blame it on Brexit, :wavey:

[Cherie]

This has been an issue for a while, like one pump might be out but the rest are working

[thesheriff443]

Fear mongering by the press again LT, there will only be a shortage if people panic buy and you can be sure they will,then blame it on Brexit, :wavey:

Never mind the petrol shortage
Hello you!

[thesheriff443]

This has been an issue for a while, like one pump might be out but the rest are working

You will always get compliments with one pump:joker:

[user104658]

It’s a bump in the road ts it’s not a terminal cancer diagnosis

The roads are full of idiots on racing’s bikes these days instead of them thinking they are doing the Tour de France they can go to work or shops on them

I'm not talking about the petrol specifically, I'm talking about the HGV goods transport crisis that is ongoing and escalating. All of the smaller issues are just symptoms of that larger one.

[thesheriff443]

I'm not talking about the petrol specifically, I'm talking about the HGV goods transport crisis that is ongoing and escalating. All of the smaller issues are just symptoms of that larger one.

If there is money to be made truck drivers will just switch my brother in law drives a hi ab hgv for travis

I can drive an hgv so can my brother if it gets that bad people will switch jobs
It’s not like there is going to be no one around maybe more women will drive hgv’s

There are plenty of women already driving hgv horse boxes

[Alf]

Effects of Brexit truly starting to hit now. It’s quite worrying and only going to get worse.Do we need those unelected rich people to hold our hands and do things and organise things for us.

Are us people in the UK really that incapable of functioning.

How come other non EU countries can function, but we're incapable? What's so special about us?

[bots]

you can name any number of things that are affected by a driver shortage. The crucial point is that there is not a supply shortage, there is a delay in goods arriving, which is manageable in 99% of cases. Obviously high demand for something in a hotspot will lead to a shortage, but so what. The media are making the problem worse. Get everyone into a panic about a shortage so that they rush out and buy and create a shortage. Honestly, the media have so much to answer for. They have always been bad, but since covid arrived, they have been completely irresponsible

[Tom4784]

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[Alf]

People who supported brexit were actually just supporting better tax treatment for the rich. You act like this is some great movement of independence but you voted to lick the feet of the rich and to put everyone's rights at risk. Well done. Be sure to lick inbetween the toes, you don't want to make your masters mad!The thing is, the only person stopping you from moving to live inside the EU, is you. Our country decided it doesn't want to, but nobody is stopping you.

[user104658]

Do we need those unelected rich people to hold our hands and do things and organise things for us.

Are us people in the UK really that incapable of functioning.

How come other non EU countries can function, but we're incapable? What's so special about us?

The problem isn't "not having the EU" or being unable to organise it, it's that we WERE in the EU for so long and then, on top of that, that the UK government failed to properly prepare for Brexit once they knew it was happening.

It's not that we "can't" have enough UK-based HGV drivers... it's just that we currently don't. A large chunk of our HGV capacity was staffed by European drivers who now no longer want to haul in the UK because there's so much red tape it isn't worth it for them. Yes we will EVENTUALLY overcome that blip but in the meantime, pretending it isn't a big (and increasing) problem doesn't do anyone any good.

Even the most ardent Brexit supporter should be pissed off about situations like this - we had years to address these upcoming problems between the Brexit vote and the actual implementation of Brexit. Years to consider the lack of HGV drivers. Years to consider the lack of Nursing staff, etc... the government continually kicked those issues into the long grass, pretending it wasn't going to be a problem. And here we are, late 2021... it is becoming a problem. We don't need them to be having a focus on training up more HGV drivers "now" - we needed them to do that as soon as we knew we'd be losing workers from the EU. 5 years ago.

[user104658]

The thing is, the only person stopping you from moving to live inside the EU, is you. Our country decided it doesn't want to, but nobody is stopping you.

:think: Brexit/leaving the EU meant an end to free movement for residence/work within Europe ... that was a pretty big part of the whole deal. So this is all just... incorrect. A British citizen can't just decide to up sticks and live in mainland Europe. You could have before Brexit. You now cannot.

[Alf]

The problem isn't "not having the EU" or being unable to organise it, it's that we WERE in the EU for so long and then, on top of that, that the UK government failed to properly prepare for Brexit once they knew it was happening.

It's not that we "can't" have enough UK-based HGV drivers... it's just that we currently don't. A large chunk of our HGV capacity was staffed by European drivers who now no longer want to haul in the UK because there's so much red tape it isn't worth it for them. Yes we will EVENTUALLY overcome that blip but in the meantime, pretending it isn't a big (and increasing) problem doesn't do anyone any good.

Even the most ardent Brexit supporter should be pissed off about situations like this - we had years to address these upcoming problems between the Brexit vote and the actual implementation of Brexit. Years to consider the lack of HGV drivers. Years to consider the lack of Nursing staff, etc... the government continually kicked those issues into the long grass, pretending it wasn't going to be a problem. And here we are, late 2021... it is becoming a problem. We don't need them to be having a focus on training up more HGV drivers "now" - we needed them to do that as soon as we knew we'd be losing workers from the EU. 5 years ago.You can be pi55ed off about things, but to blame it on brexit is just taking short cuts, the easy way out, making excuses.

There's swings and roundabouts.

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[Alf]

He says, while making excuses for the damage that Brexit has caused.

I know denying reality is your thing, Alf, but denial does nothing. We're in this mess because of uninformed dumbasses operating on their base instincts and voting against their own interests.Yeah, let's put you in charge Dezzy.

You've basically been calling for apartheid in our country, from the vaxed and the unvaxed. You want people to never be allowed medical treatment. You've called for deprogrammimg human beings.

[arista]

Yeah, let's put you in charge Dezzy.

You've basically been calling for apartheid in our country, from the vaxed and the unvaxed. You want people to never be allowed medical treatment. You've called for deprogrammimg human beings.


Unvaxed are a problem, though

[Alf]

Unvaxed are a problem, thoughAccording to a report by CNN the CDC says the vaxed are equally, repeat equally a problem.

I posted the report in the Covid thread.

[thesheriff443]

Unvaxed are a problem, though

Have you made a thread yet arista about China taking back Taiwan

[Beso]

People who supported brexit were actually just supporting better tax treatment for the rich. You act like this is some great movement of independence but you voted to lick the feet of the rich and to put everyone's rights at risk. Well done. Be sure to lick inbetween the toes, you don't want to make your masters mad!

Maybe alfs rich as well.:shrug:

[user104658]

You can be pi55ed off about things, but to blame it on brexit is just taking short cuts, the easy way out, making excuses.

There's swings and roundabouts.

But there is no other route in this case - the HGV driver shortage is linked to Brexit, there's no two ways about that. You can either blame it on Brexit happening at all (which would be a "Remainer" stance), or on the failure of the government to adequately prepare for leaving the EU once the vote had happened (the "Brexiteer" stance) as they had 4+ years to do this, and failed, they're only just trying to address it now.

There's just no way to claim that the UK's current haulage problems are not Brexit-related.

[Beso]

There is a shortage crisis of 400 thousand lorry drivers in Europe..you cant blame this solely on brexit.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So how can shippers avoid getting caught up in delays?
Paul Ferguson, Sales Director for John Good Logistics, has this advice, “We’ve been recommending customers use Northern ports such as Liverpool, especially those based in the North West.”

Since Liverpool opened its deepwater Liverpool2 terminal in 2016 it offers enlarged terminal capacity, an absence of demurrage and detention charges and faster truck turnaround times and available haulage.

Paul continues, “Shipping to Liverpool is often dismissed as not being viable because any cost saving can be outweighed by the additional transit time of 4-5 days. However, with the current issues regarding port congestion following the issues Felixstowe faced with the new IT systems and the general shortage of haulage in the industry, the delays and disruption being experienced on arrival at many of the UK’s main ports mean the door to door transits are now comparative. This is not just Liverpool but other UK feeder ports such as Immingham, Teeside and Grangemouth, which, are all now becoming more attractive propositions.

Additional benefits include a reduction in road miles and of course the environmental benefits also associated with this kind of move. For customers of John Good Logistics, we can also offer flexible haulage options because we operate our own trailers in the UK.”

https://goodlogisticsgroup.com/uk-haulage-crisis-whats-happening-and-how-to-avoid-haulage-problems/

problems always have solutions

[Alf]

But there is no other route in this case - the HGV driver shortage is linked to Brexit, there's no two ways about that. You can either blame it on Brexit happening at all (which would be a "Remainer" stance), or on the failure of the government to adequately prepare for leaving the EU once the vote had happened (the "Brexiteer" stance) as they had 4+ years to do this, and failed, they're only just trying to address it now.

There's just no way to claim that the UK's current haulage problems are not Brexit-related.We could have been 3 years further advanced if it wasn't for all the people trying to overturn the result of the referendum, holding us back. And then when we finally seal the deal, the situation the World now finds itself in, starts.

There's always going to be creases to iron out. The first step is to accept we've left, and we're not likely to be returning in our lifetimes. Then we can get on with doing what's best for us.

[user104658]

There's always going to be creases to iron out. The first step is to accept we've left, and we're not likely to be returning in our lifetimes. Then we can get on with doing what's best for us.

I agree to an extent but that has largely been the case since late 2019. There's a case to be made that Covid complicated matters not long after that, and that "everything else being kicked into the long grass" for most of 2020, then hitting mid 2021 and realising "wups we forgot to do anything else" is also a huge part of the problem, but at the end of the day, the buck stops with the same people anyway. There was a clear failure to adequately prep, no matter what else was going on. I honestly don't understand why both Remainers and Brexit supporters wouldn't be united in being annoyed about that. Other than the tribalism (i.e. "any acceptance of fair criticism = ceding ground to the enemy") that goes on in every topic.

[bots]

According to a report by CNN the CDC says the vaxed are equally, repeat equally a problem.

I posted the report in the Covid thread.

this is fact manipulation again. Vaccinated people can still catch and transmit covid, but their chances of doing so are much reduced compared to those unvaccinated.

It has never been the case that the vaccine stopped you getting or transmitting covid.

[Beso]

All the vaccine does is hide the fact you have covid and that you are at risk of spreading covid because it reduces the symptoms.

[user104658]

this is fact manipulation again. Vaccinated people can still catch and transmit covid, but their chances of doing so are much reduced compared to those unvaccinated.

It has never been the case that the vaccine stopped you getting or transmitting covid.

As I've said before there is an interesting transmission possibility "side effect", I guess, with vaccines. It's been proven quite thoroughly that in cases where vaccinated people do become infected, and thus infectious, they are more likely than unvaccinated people to be completely symptomless, and thus a higher likelihood that they will never even test and may never know that they were carrying Covid, having never gotten ill themself. Thus, they won't have isolated or taken extra precautions, as they will have been oblivious to the presence of Covid.

It's mitigated slightly by other factors and not really much you can do about it - but this is basically why they advise school-aged teens taking regular lateral flow tests, as they may be covid+ without any symptoms at all. A friend of mine (well, an old friend from my school days, I saw it on his Facebook) had a letter from his kids school saying someone had tested positive and to test... both of his kids (aged 9 and 12) tested positive... he had to keep them at home for 2 weeks and neither of them developed so much as a sniffle.

[Alf]

this is fact manipulation again. Vaccinated people can still catch and transmit covid, but their chances of doing so are much reduced compared to those unvaccinated.

It has never been the case that the vaccine stopped you getting or transmitting covid.Nah, what it is, is narrative breakdown.

[Alf]

Minister of State for Middle East and North Africa says...



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[user104658]

Minister of State for Middle East and North Africa says...



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It's already been stated that there is no shortage of fuel, the fuel itself is available, there's a haulage problem that means in some areas fuel isn't getting out to the filling stations as efficiently as usual (and so they are running dry). This will of course be even worse when the panic-filling starts.

[bots]

time to have the guard dog watch my car

[AnnieK]

Everyone is panic buying......its bloody crazy out there. I run my car mainly on fumes and so I am going to have to sit in bloody queues this weekend :fist:

[Alf]

It's already been stated that there is no shortage of fuel, the fuel itself is available, there's a haulage problem that means in some areas fuel isn't getting out to the filling stations as efficiently as usual (and so they are running dry). This will of course be even worse when the panic-filling starts.Yeah, but Arista's title says "petrol shortage"

[user104658]

Yeah, but Arista's title says "petrol shortage"

That poster is notorious for his inaccurate thread titles unfortunately.

[user104658]

Everyone is panic buying......its bloody crazy out there. I run my car mainly on fumes and so I am going to have to sit in bloody queues this weekend :fist:

:think: We filled up a few days ago but my wife uses a fair bit of fuel. Might have to ration our weekend driving if there are queues up here.

We started filling to the brim on every trip to the petrol station a couple of years back - realised that it's a false economy not to. Like... you just drive the distance you drive... surely... putting in less fuel doesn't somehow make your journey shorter or mean you need to use the car less, just means you'll be back getting fuel sooner. I used to be like "We'll just put in £30" but then we're back putting in another £30 at the end of the week, and might has well have saved the hassle and just put in £60 in the first place :think:.

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[Alf]

Just go syphoning. But do it in a rich area. Like a modern day Robin Hood.

[arista]

That poster is notorious for his inaccurate thread titles unfortunately.


Title now changed

[thesheriff443]

Everyone is panic buying......its bloody crazy out there. I run my car mainly on fumes and so I am going to have to sit in bloody queues this weekend :fist:

These people are selfish morons pulling in a Range Rover that takes 300 to fill up for what they won’t be going anywhere

[arista]

One Driver on Ch5HDnews
was Filling Petrol Floor Cans

Typical Old fella,

[arista]

Yeah, but Arista's title says "petrol shortage"


Title corrected

[Alf]

Title correctedGood man

[Alf]

So you don't know what apartheid or deprogramming is.

You're so used to privilege and not facing any kind of difficulty that you instantly jump to comparing your non-struggles as a conspiracy theorist to that of the victims of the Holocaust and apartheid.

No, not being allowed into private property or businesses because you are unvaccinated is not apartheid. You have the choice to not get vaccinated and nobody has to risk themselves to accommodate your decisions. You're just deeply arrogant and self-entitled and you think that you can do what you want and force your presence in businesses and areas that don't belong to you. You are not a victim of bigotry, you were not born a gullible anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist, you chose to be that. Your struggle is non-existent and self inflicted.

A person can choose to have a vaccine, and others are allowed to decide if they want to take the risk of associating with a pro-disease person in the middle of a pandemic. The problem is that you're so deluded that you think it's a one way choice, that you can decide to not get vaccinated and everyone has to bend over backwards for you and now you've got some embarrassing victim complex because the world won't cater to spoiled anti-vaxxer brats.

Deprogramming is an act of breaking the hold a cult has over it's members. You are pretty much ingrained in any and all cultish conspiracy theories you happen to here. Just for fun, what are your thoughts on Sandy Hook?

Finally, stop lying. I never said I'd want anyone to be denied medical aid. What I said was that if anti-vaxxers don't trust doctors and medical professionals to vaccinate them, why do they trust them to save their lives? If people think Covid and the pandemic is fake and overblown, they should stick to their convictions when they get Covid and see how they do with this 'fake' illness. Learn how to read and I won't be able to show you up so easily.That's all well and good.

But the main question is. Who's your money on for Tibb dancing on frozen water?

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[Zizu]

Local garages in Gtr Manchester out of fuel , pumps all wrapped up .

The ones still open were jam packed , queuing out into the roads causing slow downs /stoppages !!

People driving in the exits and out of the entrances at Tesco station !!

Bloody madness


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[arista]

Local garages in Gtr Manchester out of fuel , pumps all wrapped up .

The ones still open were jam packed , queuing out into the roads causing slow downs /stoppages !!

People driving in the exits and out of the entrances at Tesco station !!

Bloody madness




Yes the Public Panic is going crazy
Once some start, loads join in.

[Zizu]

We need the armed forces on the job .. driving the fuel to the pumps ..


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[arista]

We need the armed forces on the job .. driving the fuel to the pumps ..




Yes that's the Answer

[arista]

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[arista]

Ch4HDnews
said Some HGV Petrol Drivers
have been poached by Truck Companies
who need them,
Offering them more money.

[Zizu]

Ch4HDnews
said Some HGV Petrol Drivers
have been poached by Truck Companies
who need them,
Offering them more money.


Yeah .. supply and demand.

Hgv drivers can make some good money in the short term but I guess that loads of bosses will remember who let them down and the boot maybe on the other foot next time


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[AnnieK]

I went out a 6.45am this morning to get petrol, just got back. It was bedlam....if I literally hadn't been on fumes I wouldn't have bothered.

Not going to be lazy any more and keep it topped up. Not dealing with that again :laugh:

[Cherie]

I went out a 6.45am this morning to get petrol, just got back. It was bedlam....if I literally hadn't been on fumes I wouldn't have bothered.

Not going to be lazy any more and keep it topped up. Not dealing with that again :laugh:

What is wrong with people :facepalm:

[user104658]

Brexit visa U-turn will do NOTHING because TiBB told me this has nothing to do with Brexit.

[user104658]

We philled up last night (nothing to do with panic buying, we always do a supermarket run on a Friday night :nono: ) and Tesco had run out, but Morrison’s was fine and didn’t even have a queue. Hmmmm.

[arista]

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Many Petrol Stations
are now doing a £30 limit


[Ministers are on the verge of giving
temporary visas to 5,000 foreign HGV drivers
to help ease the pressure
Desperate motorists have been pictured
filling jerry cans with illegal amounts
of fuel amid panic buying]

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[A motorist filled multiple vessels with illegal quantities
of fuel amid a national shortage at stations
because of the absence of delivery drivers]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10027411/Selfish-drivers-pack-cars-jerry-cans-tanks-brim.html

[arista]

Brexit visa U-turn will do NOTHING because TiBB told me this has nothing to do with Brexit.


They hope some Drivers in The EU
will arrive due to the Bigger Amounts of Money
offered in the UK

[arista]

The Government Failed
as they halted the HGV tests for too long
due to China's Covid-19 (Please Take Note TS)

[thesheriff443]

Brexit visa U-turn will do NOTHING because TiBB told me this has nothing to do with Brexit.

Those coming in from the eu probably don’t even have the proper licences to drive on our roads

The question is why is it we need foreign drivers why haven’t we got uk drivers

[arista]

LBC Live Reporter in London, Brixton
is in a queue, estimating another 45mins until he can buy some fuel.
Before 6AM they started

[arista]

[It is illegal to store petrol at home
in a jerry can because by law the
fuel must be kept in small quantities.
Either a metal 10-litre container or a
five-litre plastic one can be used.

Both have to carry a notice reading 'Highly Flammable'
and the maximum amount that can
be kept at home in total is 30 litres.

It is illegal to use 20-litre jerry can containers
because the fuel must not be stored in
such a large quantity in one vessel.]


On DM link.

[arista]

A Lorry Driver
the Delivers to Supermarket get's his Fuel at their Base
on site pumps.

Thats good


LBC live

[Zizu]

We philled up last night (nothing to do with panic buying, we always do a supermarket run on a Friday night :nono: ) and Tesco had run out, but Morrison’s was fine and didn’t even have a queue. Hmmmm.


I read somewhere that supermarket petrol is slightly poorer quality to the ‘proper’ fuel stations .. beggars can’t be choosers though


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[Zizu]

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Many Petrol Stations
are now doing a £30 limit


[Ministers are on the verge of giving
temporary visas to 5,000 foreign HGV drivers
to help ease the pressure
Desperate motorists have been pictured
filling jerry cans with illegal amounts
of fuel amid panic buying]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/09/25/09/48371455-10027411-a-a-40_1632557944773.jpg
[A motorist filled multiple vessels with illegal quantities
of fuel amid a national shortage at stations
because of the absence of delivery drivers]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10027411/Selfish-drivers-pack-cars-jerry-cans-tanks-brim.html


Hope he doesn’t get shunted from behind on the way home or they’d see that explosion in the States !


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[Cherie]

Those coming in from the eu probably don’t even have the proper licences to drive on our roads

The question is why is it we need foreign drivers why haven’t we got uk drivers

A myriad of reasons ..including you have to be over 25 to be taken on

Testing is expensive

The DVLA have been hiding behind covid and are on strike more often than not so backlogs are huge

Brexit

Covid

Plus it’s not an attractive job for many

[AnnieK]

Hope he doesn’t get shunted from behind on the way home or they’d see that explosion in the States !


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:laugh:

[arista]

Hope he doesn’t get shunted from behind on the way home or they’d see that explosion in the States !





Yes illegal amounts of petrol,
Police should charge him.

[Crimson Dynamo]

just filled up at my local shell and it was normal with like 2 other cars and a guy doing his tyres

[arista]

just filled up at my local shell and it was normal with like 2 other cars and a guy doing his tyres


How Nice

Good job it's not a BP

[thesheriff443]

just filled up at my local shell and it was normal with like 2 other cars and a guy doing his tyres

You are in Scotland you lot hardly splash the cash

[Alf]

Marketing



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[arista]

Marketing



No
Many Drivers get their own Petrol
at the Base the drive from
Tankers deliver to their own Private Pumps etc.


So that Photoshop is fake

[Alf]

No
Many Drivers get their own Petrol
at the Base the drive from
Tankers deliver to their own Private Pumps etc.


So that Photoshop is fakeWhat?

[arista]

What?


No Delivery Trouble
as Lorrys get their own Petrol supply
at their Warehouses


That Photo is a Photoshop sign.

[rusticgal]

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:joker:

[rusticgal]

No Delivery Trouble
as Lorrys get their own Petrol supply
at their Warehouses


That Photo is a Photoshop sign.


Arista..its a joke...and a very funny one.

[Cherie]

Not the way she drives :hehe:

Cheek!

[bots]

no problems getting petrol round my way, everyone drives 4 by 4 diesel :smug:

[arista]

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10027411/Selfish-drivers-pack-cars-jerry-cans-tanks-brim.html

[arista]

From Ch4HDnews
A Transport manager has had lots of Contact with Polish Drivers
as they want to come back to the UK to work.

[Crimson Dynamo]

From my local Facebook group:

"So, after seeing the news last night about fuel shortages, I popped in to Tesco at 0530
when I should have been sleeping! I spoke to a very nice tanker driver who was rather
informative and told me that the boats carrying fuel are arriving daily at Plymouth, the
two depots in Plymouth are extremely well stocked and there is no shortage of drivers.
His only concern was news articles misleading the public. He finished by explaining that
it is only BP who have issues. Back to bed...."

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[Zizu]

From my local Facebook group:

"So, after seeing the news last night about fuel shortages, I popped in to Tesco at 0530
when I should have been sleeping! I spoke to a very nice tanker driver who was rather
informative and told me that the boats carrying fuel are arriving daily at Plymouth, the
two depots in Plymouth are extremely well stocked and there is no shortage of drivers.
His only concern was news articles misleading the public. He finished by explaining that
it is only BP who have issues. Back to bed...."

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Why were our local ESSO forecourts
closed yesterday?


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[bots]

it's a misunderstanding that the petrol is any different in it's basic form, it all comes from the same pot. Where it may differ is in the additives that each company adds to it. If there was a shortage of drivers at a particular location, it will affect all those companies. The fact that BP was most affected in Scotland merely indicates that the major distribution centre in Scotland is BP

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[arista]

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[user104658]

Why were our local ESSO forecourts
closed yesterday?


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We quickly entered the knock-on phase. News about shortages got out, it probably wasn’t a huge problem, but people panicked and everyone went to immediately grab a full tank so loads of places ran out because of the much higher than usual demand. In theory that should resolve relatively quickly - because now all the panic-buyers have tanks full to the brim so they won’t be back for a while.

Basically, think of it like toilet roll at the start of the pandemic. There was never any physical shortage of toilet roll - but the shelves were empty, because everyone ran out and bought it all. Same going on with fuel right now.

[Beso]

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They could line them all up in a line from dover to london and hand ball all the goods that are being stalled at the ports.

[Zizu]

They could line them all up in a line from dover to london and hand ball all the goods that are being stalled at the ports.


That’s the kind of thinking that made Britain great !


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[Zizu]

We quickly entered the knock-on phase. News about shortages got out, it probably wasn’t a huge problem, but people panicked and everyone went to immediately grab a full tank so loads of places ran out because of the much higher than usual demand. In theory that should resolve relatively quickly - because now all the panic-buyers have tanks full to the brim so they won’t be back for a while.

Basically, think of it like toilet roll at the start of the pandemic. There was never any physical shortage of toilet roll - but the shelves were empty, because everyone ran out and bought it all. Same going on with fuel right now.


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[Beso]

It was good of the bbc to send reporter Phil McCann out to report on this issue this morning.

[Zizu]

It was good of the bbc to send reporter Phil McCann out to report on this issue this morning.


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[joeysteele]

Grant Shapps possibly next Minister to have to go.
He seems to be living on another planet.

All he's doing is blaming everyone else, not him or the government.

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[bots]

they were queuing round my way for fuel yesterday, idiots

[user104658]

Was at Tesco last night and when we went past the fuel bit there were only 2 cars there and no queue. And that was only about 6.30pm. On about 2/3 of a tank right now but resisted the urge to top up, I won’t cave to the panic this time :fist:. Sticking with the usual system (when gauge hits 1/4 I fill to the top).

I haven’t really seen any signs of panic buying here at all to be honest, other than the Tesco one being out of diesel on Friday evening.

[bots]

Was at Tesco last night and when we went past the fuel bit there were only 2 cars there and no queue. And that was only about 6.30pm. On about 2/3 of a tank right now but resisted the urge to top up, I won’t cave to the panic this time :fist:. Sticking with the usual system (when gauge hits 1/4 I fill to the top).

I haven’t really seen any signs of panic buying here at all to be honest, other than the Tesco one being out of diesel on Friday evening.

i have enough fuel in the tank to keep me going until christmas so i'm not in any rush. I will fill up when it all resumes to normal. I would imagine in 2 or 3 days everyone will have all the fuel they need

[Cherie]

I think its returning to normal now in our area I see on our Next door app most of the local stations now have fuel after running out at the weekend, feel sorry for anyone who was so low on fuel they HAD to go and sit and wait, but as for the numptys who didn't. well, more fool them

For some reason I filled up to the top last week as we are going away next weekend and I was filling up anyway so thought I may as well fill the tank, and Mr C has enough to last a few days so he said he would chance it and hope it resolves during the week which it will I think

[Beso]

I cant find fuel anywhere, early day for me, losing out on 180 quid.

[Beso]

Can we update the title please, as its not panic buying anymore. ITS NEDDED BUYING, as in needed to make a living now.

[Zizu]

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[arista]

The Government appear to be afraid
to talk about this.? (Alastair Campbell Guest Presenting on GMBHD itv)

No Minister on AM TV?

Labour only concerned about their Conference.
The Labour Leader, not giving Any Interviews until Thursday
after his long speech on Weds?

[arista]

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[Cherie]

If the forecourts had put a limit on the amount that could be bought...that would resolve the issue in no time, instead they put prices up and raked it in

[bots]

the problem is quite clearly the media, the hauliers association and ultimately panic buyers.

We have had the same number of lorry drivers for months and no particular delivery issues anywhere, then the hauliers and the media decided to stir it up. It's a free country and all that, but there should be some consequences for the media for creating and feeding their own news stories

[Crimson Dynamo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There is no fuel shortage in Britain. But judging by the ridiculous scenes at petrol stations all over the country, there is a massive brain cell shortage.</p>&mdash; Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) <a href="https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1442575435355893761?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[user104658]

The issue is the same as ever; just because there is no overall shortage, doesn't mean there hasn't been a knock-on effect on supply/demand, panic buying at first was needless but once it's snowballed, it's no longer irrational. It *is* difficult to get fuel in some places, because people are buying it all up. When someone who needs to drive for their commute (e.g. my wife is a 40 minute drive to work) and they've just driven past two fuel stations that are out of fuel, you can hardly blame then for filling the tank when they reach the 3rd one.

For us we haven't actually done anything out of the ordinary, we fill 'til the pump clicks every Sunday evening and that's exactly what we did this week, but for people who normally only put in a set amount in £ or fill to half ... ... I can't blame them filling up a bit more than usual at the moment.

[Cherie]

The issue is the same as ever; just because there is no overall shortage, doesn't mean there hasn't been a knock-on effect on supply/demand, panic buying at first was needless but once it's snowballed, it's no longer irrational. It *is* difficult to get fuel in some places, because people are buying it all up. When someone who needs to drive for their commute (e.g. my wife is a 40 minute drive to work) and they've just driven past two fuel stations that are out of fuel, you can hardly blame then for filling the tank when they reach the 3rd one.

For us we haven't actually done anything out of the ordinary, we fill 'til the pump clicks every Sunday evening and that's exactly what we did this week, but for people who normally only put in a set amount in £ or fill to half ... ... I can't blame them filling up a bit more than usual at the moment.

i dont blame people for filling up either if they need their car for work, however for people whose cars are sat on driveways full to the brim ..just in case; and people filling water bottles :facepalm: with extra I do blame them

There was a guy on our next door app offering people the opportunity to siphon off fuel from his cars ...on the face of it a very generous gesture but he had obviously been out filling up his 'cars' with no obvious need to.

[Livia]

People are stupid sometimes... Stupid and selfish.

I'm interested to see how the recruitment of foreign drivers goes, considering the massive shortages of HGV drivers right across Europe.

[Cherie]

People are stupid sometimes... Stupid and selfish.

I'm interested to see how the recruitment of foreign drivers goes, considering the massive shortages of HGV drivers right across Europe.

No way are any drivers coming over for literally 3 months, especially if they have a job already, for starters they would need to find accommodation. That is fine for seasonal workers where accommodation is already on site at farms and such, this is not going to happen

[Livia]

No way are any drivers coming over for literally 3 months, especially if they have a job already, for starters they would need to find accommodation. That is fine for seasonal workers where accommodation is already on site at farms and such, this is not going to happen

Your sig is frightening me....

Nice to see you x

[Cherie]

Your sig is frightening me....

Nice to see you x

:laugh:

You too Liv :love:

[michael21]

Time for borris to act fast

[Zizu]

i dont blame people for filling up either if they need their car for work, however for people whose cars are sat on driveways full to the brim ..just in case; and people filling water bottles :facepalm: with extra I do blame them

There was a guy on our next door app offering people the opportunity to siphon off fuel from his cars ...on the face of it a very generous gesture but he had obviously been out filling up his 'cars' with no obvious need to.


Was he charging £20 a gallon ?

:)


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[Alf]

Ain't some people just stupid?

[joeysteele]

Time for borris to act fast

I think he's still Just in the main looking at it.
Or looking into who he can blame for it and not him and his lot.

[Alf]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

just been out driving for 2 hours and passed a tesco (2 cars filling up on way and 1 on way back plus tanker filling it) The 2 independents i passed had one and 2 cars on way out and 2 plus one plus tanker filling up. No queues or nowt

[user104658]

just been out driving for 2 hours and passed a tesco (2 cars filling up on way and 1 on way back plus tanker filling it) The 2 independents i passed had one and 2 cars on way out and 2 plus one plus tanker filling up. No queues or nowt

Outside Glasgow/Edinburgh I don't think Central Belt has really been panic buying? like I said, one place was out of diesel late on Sunday, haven't seen any other signs of an issue, haven't seen any queues. But then, there were also no empty shelves the last two times there's been "supermarket panics". Lower population density helps, I suppose.

[AnnieK]

just been out driving for 2 hours and passed a tesco (2 cars filling up on way and 1 on way back plus tanker filling it) The 2 independents i passed had one and 2 cars on way out and 2 plus one plus tanker filling up. No queues or nowt

I think that shows the difference though - if I had been out driving for 2 hours here, I would have passed around 20+ stations. On my 20 minute journey to work I pass an Asda, Tesco, Esso with Tesco Express and a Morrisons plus 2 small independent stations - all of them this morning either had ridiculous queues (Morrisons and Asda), were out of fuel or for Emergency Service vehicles only.

I think one small indie one was open on the same road as my office as the traffic was horrific and my colleague said she thinks it was queues to get into the petrol station causing it.

Definitely depends on where you live how crazy its been :laugh:

[arista]

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The Big Fight

Video on the fight
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10036061/Wild-West-petrol-panic-Drivers-spend-night-hunting-fuel.html

['Knife' and fist fights on forecourts amid urgent calls
from Tories to bring Army in to drive fuel tankers Now ... but
Grant Shapps insists UK
is 'seeing first signs
of stabilisation' (but begs motorists to stop panic-buying)]

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[Cherie]

I think that shows the difference though - if I had been out driving for 2 hours here, I would have passed around 20+ stations. On my 20 minute journey to work I pass an Asda, Tesco, Esso with Tesco Express and a Morrisons plus 2 small independent stations - all of them this morning either had ridiculous queues (Morrisons and Asda), were out of fuel or for Emergency Service vehicles only.

I think one small indie one was open on the same road as my office as the traffic was horrific and my colleague said she thinks it was queues to get into the petrol station causing it.

Definitely depends on where you live how crazy its been :laugh:

Its centred around the big cities which is crazy due to there being public transport :laugh:

[arista]

Johnson PM is Speaking on Both news
channels.

Recorded at Downing Street
both news channels



Not being questioned well.
(BBC Newsnight reporter)

Asked on Petrol Crisis
he claims it is being stabilised.

[joeysteele]

Johnson PM is Speaking on Both news
channels.

Recorded at Downing Street
both news channels



Not being questioned well.
(BBC Newsnight reporter)

Asked on Petrol Crisis
he claims it is being stabilised.


It's not stabilising from his government's efforts.

He's procrastinated just hoping it improves.

Waste of time asking him anything you just get a load of s...e from him.

[bots]

it was always going to stabilise without any action as the panic buyers all had full tanks of petrol. Sometimes its actually better to wait and let it sort itself out. The only action that was needed was priority access for essential workers, which was done

[joeysteele]

We shouldn't have been in this position at all, the government's been warned for months this could happen.
It did nothing.

Plus it's only now after near a week, that essential workers are to get priority in some places.

I'm not going to let this incompetent government off the hook on this.
They've been abyssmal.
Grant Shapps shocking.

They've run away again, again refusing to be interviewed on TV about the issue.
Unbelievable they are getting excused for this unnecessary mess and chaos.

[Liam-]

We shouldn't have been in this position at all, the government's been warned for months this could happen.
It did nothing.

Plus it's only now after near a week, that essential workers are to get priority in some places.

I'm not going to let this incompetent government off the hook on this.
They've been abyssmal.
Grant Shapps shocking.

They've run away again, again refusing to be interviewed on TV about the issue.
Unbelievable they are getting excused for this unnecessary mess and chaos.

Unbelievable, yet not at all shocking unfortunately, Boris and this government could literally slap a bunch of disabled people live on tv and people would find anything they could to excuse them for it, it’s just the way it goes with Tories these days

[joeysteele]

Unbelievable, yet not at all shocking unfortunately, Boris and this government could literally slap a bunch of disabled people live on tv and people would find anything they could to excuse them for it, it’s just the way it goes with Tories these days


I agree Liam.
In effect though, they do slap disabled people Liam.
Admittedly not in public but they slap them down and humiliate even terminal cancer patients.
Having to go to court to get wrongly removed benefits restored.
Adding more unnecessary stress to their health.

Yet even that is hidden, never raised, never condemned by their hard-line heartless supporters.
Even voting for more of it in 2019 when out they went out to re-elect them.

So maybe it's not so unbelievable that this will be excused them too as to this fuel, deliveries and driver shortage
Which they've been warned about for months.

It strikes me little that goes wrong in the UK, is to their supporters, anything this government should do anything about, so not their fault when they don't.

Really unbelievable and sickening.

[Crimson Dynamo]

a little perspective

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[arista]

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[Alf]

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[arista]

The Government
has now brought in the Army
to help get the Petrol around the UK.

[Zizu]

I thought things were getting better quickly as so many had filled up


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[Vanessa]

Omg, I'm so glad I don't drive. :shocked:
I usually go to work by walk.

[michael21]

Omg, I'm so glad I don't drive. :shocked:
I usually go to work by walk.

Yes healthy option

[Crimson Dynamo]

i have been in the car today for 4.5 hours driving around Central Northern Scotland and i saw no queues and no panic and i passed 8 stations

[Zizu]

i have been in the car today for 4.5 hours driving around Central Northern Scotland and i saw no queues and no panic and i passed 8 stations


Empty stations have their pumps taped up of course though ..


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[bots]

it's not a uniform problem across the country, because fundamentally, the problem comes from panic buyers. All it takes is for a couple of cars to queue for petrol at a station to make everyone passing say ... oh i better get petrol too. They then join the queue and before you know it, every station in that locality will be swamped. Even if there is no shortage of petrol, there will be shortly after that happens, no matter how good the supply of petrol actually is

[AnnieK]

Its pretty calm where I am now - i was able to get some this morning, no queue and no inflated price like it was earlier in the week when roads were blocked, queues were huge and you could only get £30.

[michael21]

Its pretty calm where I am now - i was able to get some this morning, no queue and no inflated price like it was earlier in the week when roads were blocked, queues were huge and you could only get £30.

Every one has filled up for now but expect it to be bad again when people run out again everyone been trick there no problem or you would not be able to fill the tank up :laugh:

[AnnieK]

Every one has filled up for now but expect it to be bad again when people run out again everyone been trick there no problem or you would not be able to fill the tank up :laugh:

I don't think it will be as bad again now everyone has filled up. People were filling their cars just for them to sit on the drive. Everyone's usage will be different so as long as the media or government don't advise people not to panic buy again, it should be ok now.

:fc:

[Dogeatdog]

My local petrol station is only 5 mins from where I live but it’s been an absolute nightmare trying to get fuel. Went their on Tuesday to fill my van up and it took me 1 hour and 45 mins in the queue and it was about an hour in the queue filling it up today. It’s absolute madness I’ve even been driving past petrol stations that are closed because the fuel tanker lorry is in there and people are still queuing up on the roads waiting for the garage to open :laugh:.

I hope this doesn’t go on for much longer.

[user104658]

Drove past (well, my wife drove past, I cannot drive for at least another 6 months :umm2: ) about 4 or 5 petrol pumps while we were out doing the shopping etc. this afternoon ... no issues at any of them. No shortage, no queues, completely normal.

It's quite bizarre the ways this has affected some areas really badly but not affected other areas at all :think:

[Zizu]

Armed Forces will be delivering petrol to the worst areas as of Monday .. apparently


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[arista]

Armed Forces will be delivering petrol to the worst areas as of Monday .. apparently





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[arista]

[Temporary visas are to be issued to 300
overseas fuel drivers "immediately",
the government has announced.
Under the bespoke scheme,
those foreign drivers will be able to
work in the UK from now until the end of March.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58773530

[arista]

Fuel tanks still dry at 20% of South East forecourts, say retailers

Published
23 minutes ago

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58786269

[bots]

all the petrol stations near me have bollards across the entrance/exit

[Cherie]

We drove up to Norfolk on Friday, once we got outside London, the petrol became more plentiful and we were able to drive in and get petrol as normal with no queuing just outside Norwich, same on the way back, only when we hit London outskirts did the queues start

[user104658]

We drove up to Norfolk on Friday, once we got outside London, the petrol became more plentiful and we were able to drive in and get petrol as normal with no queuing just outside Norwich, same on the way back, only when we hit London outskirts did the queues start

So basically, it seems like a "London problem" is being reported in the press as a "Nation-wide problem"?

I think it's affected the Manchester area as well and maybe some other larger cities but I do think the reporting should be clearer about the types of areas affected, and that outside of the bigger population centres there isn't really an issue.

[Cherie]

So basically, it seems like a "London problem" is being reported in the press as a "Nation-wide problem"?

I think it's affected the Manchester area as well and maybe some other larger cities but I do think the reporting should be clearer about the types of areas affected, and that outside of the bigger population centres there isn't really an issue.

Pretty much, and the irony is that it is in areas where public transport is pretty plentiful, we were in rural Norfolk where people would be much more reliant on their cars, we came across a station now and again with no petrol but the majority were running as normal.

Even with regard to London the reporting last night was that 20% of stations were closed, but flipping that 80% are open, what we noticed as well is that drivers were attaching themselves to long queues but if they drove on a bit further there was a petrol station with no queue or a small queue :laugh:

[Livia]

The garages near me don't seem to have had the problems that they've had further south. Last time I drove into Sainsbury's, three out of four pumps were not being used. I did come past a rather long queue at Morrison's about a week ago and it was entirely full of delivery drivers and elderly people. My Dad queued up for petrol when he had three quarters of a tank. If everyone chilled out a bit things would improve.

[bots]

my local station clearly got a delivery recently as there is now a mile long queue for petrol. Guess I need to wait a bit yet for it to settle down

[Beso]

It's very easy to blame this all on brexit, and rather lazy.

The real reason is that the big companies can afford to pay drivers to sit at home,the big companies maybe need 50 drivers, but will employ 80 to make sure they have cover at all times.

The working conditions for the drivers as well plays a huge role. It is a clear factor as to why nobody wants to take this on as their first trade after school or college.


Your average driver that works for a smaller company will have been witht he company for over 15 years.

These small companies cant get drivers because of the big supermarkets snaffling all the agency workers up, mostly on higher wages now that agency workers are no longer self employed.

The fact you cant just go straight for your class one licence anymore and have to go through all the classes first is a big factor as to the the older drivers not wanti g to start a new journey in the hgv world. The costs to maintain the licences as well, and the constant medicals just makes it unappealing for anyone who hasnt done it, to want to start doing it.

The insurance companies have a lot to answer for as well as they raised the cost of the eu drivers insurance policies because the tests are not as gruelling, or as testing as the uk ones are, this caused accidents involving non uk nationals to become a problem. Hence the rise in insurance for non uk drivers. They also wont touch a young driver because they ain't driven for 2 years. So how on earth do they get their experience, so they can be insured..young drivers schemes also gone.

The shortages have been happening for 10 to15 years now.

The facilities for these drivers are disgusting, the charges for parking are disgusting. The lack of privacy now with truck cams is disgusting.

There is just no appeal to anyone thinking about becoming a driver, the are treated with contempt.

At the start of covid these guys were heroes, now they are treated like 4th class citizens

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its not an issue around here

but lorry drivers have been treated like 2nd class workers for a while and now we reap the outcome of human greed

[Beso]

Anyone with a brain would have changed the marathon to saturday and kept the course locked to traffic on sunday and filled it with tankers driven by the army.

Muppet sadiq.

[Beso]

Its not an issue around here

but lorry drivers have been treated like 2nd class workers for a while and now we reap the outcome of human greed

London still struggling to get all pumps filled.

It was mainly diesel available this week

[arista]

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No it's not enough................................Kawsi

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBUm81dWQAMIFRS?format=jpg&name=900x900


Yes .... Folks today, not as Driven
as the WW2 workers.

[bots]

no issue getting petrol here today :smug:

[Zizu]

no issue getting petrol here today :smug:


Same here .. Gtr Manchester


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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBh8IykVQAEuFQk?format=jpg&name=small


Due to lack of Lorry Drivers
some UK ports are now sending ships away.
So much not collected yet

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBh2U5RVQAAZ0d9?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/3EDF/production/_121059061_ft-nc.png

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/10/13/02/49101489-0-image-a-55_1634087006060.jpg

['Scared' shipping bosses say surge in imports and
lack of HGV drivers means electricals
and toys will be stranded at sea 'until well in to 2022']

Not Stranded - Sent to a North England Port, for now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10086239/Shipping-bosses-say-surge-imports-lack-HGV-drivers-means-goods-stranded-2022.html

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/10/12/12/49070507-10083597-image-a-5_1634037079636.jpg

Bollocks - to Eco Bamboo Flooring.

[bots]

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[arista]

[Agriculture Secretary George Eustice said about 800 pig butchers
from overseas are needed to get the
situation under control and he expects
to see them arriving in November.]

https://news.sky.com/story/overseas-butchers-and-abattoir-workers-to-be-granted-six-month-seasonal-worker-visas-to-deal-with-pig-backlog-12433884

Sadly the British farmers
are due to start killing their pigs from next week.

[Beso]

First pig I would kill is that rapist ****.

[Crimson Dynamo]

dont worry its all sorted now with this new scheme:

https://www.facebook.com/april.cooper.58152/posts/593534305400561

[arista]

Yes LT they will get a few
still need more

[bots]

correct me if i'm wrong, but wont a crim just leg it with a lorry full of goodies

[arista]

correct me if i'm wrong, but wont a crim just leg it with a lorry full of goodies


No he will have a Tracker.

That Driver Took Drugs on top of his load
to make extra cash.


Next Thursday 7:30PM
a Tonight Special 25mins Docu'
on our Lorry Driver Shortage