Steve Coogan to play Jimmy Savile in BBC drama

[arista]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/sep/26/steve-coogan-to-play-jimmy-savile-in-sensitive-bbc-drama

Coming soon.


I think Steve can Pull it off.


[The Alan Partridge star said the decision to
portray Savile on screen was not
one he “took lightly” but the series
had “an intelligent script tackling sensitively
an horrific story which – however harrowing – needs
to be told”.]

[joeysteele]

Not sure how I feel about this.
Perhaps a bit too early to be doing this.

[Niamh.]

That will be a difficult watch. I really Steve Coogan though

[bots]

im not a Coogan fan, so if it leaves me wanting to punch him, that's just fine

[arista]

Not sure how I feel about this.
Perhaps a bit too early to be doing this.


No it needs to be told.



He went on Ch4's Celebrity Big Brother, as a day guest
they had trouble getting him to leave

[Niamh.]

im not a Coogan fan, so if it leaves me wanting to punch him, that's just fine

:laugh2: aww what did he ever do to you?

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[Cherie]

He was great in Stephen ..think he is perfect for the part

[Zizu]

I have zero interest in anything to do with that repulsively disgusting creature .

( SaVILE not Coogan )
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[user104658]

I don't think this needs a BBC drama in all honesty. A docu-drama is one thing (documentary with dramatised parts) but this doesn't feel necessary at all. Slightly gross, if anything.

[arista]

I don't think this needs a BBC drama in all honesty. A docu-drama is one thing (documentary with dramatised parts) but this doesn't feel necessary at all. Slightly gross, if anything.


Well they can not show him Raping that little girl
Of course
(At the time, a BBC worker interrupted him and was told to get out the room)


But they can show him behind the scenes
how devious he really was

[Mystic Mock]

It's not my kinda thing tbh.

I'm sure that Steve Coogan will do a good performance though.

[arista]

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[Zizu]

Well they can not show him Raping that little girl
Of course
(At the time, a BBC worker interrupted him and was told to get out the room)


But they can show him behind the scenes
how devious he really was


Why do we have to know about his deviant ways though ..

It’s bad enough that he did what he did and got away with it tbh


The negatives are that showing his strategies will only give other like minded perverts ideas , surely .

What are the positives ?

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[Cherie]

Why do we have to know about his deviant ways though ..

It’s bad enough that he did what he did and got away with it tbh


The negatives are that showing his strategies will only give other like minded perverts ideas , surely .

What are the positives ?

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Maybe they will focus in the many times he could have been stopped

[joeysteele]

I'd like to know how his victims feel about this.
Presumably and hopefully they'll have been properly consulted on this.

[Beso]

Disgraceful, but like Meghan and harry shows, I will be watching.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'd like to know how his victims feel about this.
Presumably and hopefully they'll have been properly consulted on this.

not a chance in hell

[Beso]

They should make it a saturday night game show..

Call it, good game, good game.

Let's bring jimmy back..its what britain deserves.

[hijaxers]

He was great in Stephen ..think he is perfect for the part

Oh he was Cherie ~ I was shocked by how utterly believeable he was and i think he has guts to take this role on ~ i feel an award coming.

[Strictly Jake]

Yeah I don't agree with them making this. It's unnecessary and might cause a lot of upset for the families affected.

Plus I actually worry for coogan. You know how you get the mad heads who think that soaps are really and are horrible to actors that play a villain in a soap. He might be given a hard time afterwards

[arista]

Yeah I don't agree with them making this. It's unnecessary and might cause a lot of upset for the families affected.

Plus I actually worry for coogan. You know how you get the mad heads who think that soaps are really and are horrible to actors that play a villain in a soap. He might be given a hard time afterwards


I think it's brave of him.
And I think he can play him well.

Very Talented Performer.

[Zizu]

Oh he was Cherie ~ I was shocked by how utterly believeable he was and i think he has guts to take this role on ~ i feel an award coming.


I don’t think I’d be happy going up onstage to collect an award for being JS to be honest


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[Cherie]

David Tennant played a seriel killer and he was lauded for it ...what’t the difference

[Zizu]

David Tennant played a seriel killer and he was lauded for it ...what’t the difference


The ages of the victims ?


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[Cherie]

The ages of the victims ?


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Some of his victims were children?

His first victim was 14?

[joeysteele]

This is just about barely 10 years since the crimes of Saville came out.
Some of the victims were children in Hospital.

It's way too soon in my view.
Far too early to bring any of it up in the name of entertainment.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i take it no one complained about the steven lawrence drama?

[Tom4784]

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[Zizu]

Everything about this is tasteless. This abuse shouldn't be dramatised and it shouldn't be done by the very company that tried to cover it up, no doubt that they'll come off in the drama smelling of roses...


Exactly !


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[Zizu]

Some of his victims were children?

His first victim was 14?


All of SaVile’s victims were children ... hundreds of them ... many were poorly in hospitals .


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[Cherie]

i take it no one complained about the steven lawrence drama?

Or the Nightstalker or the Rochdale grooming gang or countless other dramas based on real events

[Cherie]

All of SaVile’s victims were children ... hundreds of them ... many were poorly in hospitals .


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So?

Should we not speak about it ..

And you have a remote

[Zizu]

So?

Should we not speak about it ..

And you have a remote


Who said you shouldn’t speak about it ?

I certainly won’t be watching it

Just don’t think they should be making a drama about him and his disgusting ways ... at worst it may give any perverted / deviant viewers ideas .


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Who said you shouldn’t speak about it ?

I certainly won’t be watching it

Just don’t think they should be making a drama about him and his disgusting ways ... at worst it may give any perverted / deviant viewers ideas .


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but a drama about say 9/11 is ok?

[bots]

i think the difference between saville and the other examples is that he was a prime time saturday night tv host among other things. It makes a huge difference.

I don't think anything should be shut up or not covered, but a large proportion of the public will find it particularly distasteful given it's Saville

[joeysteele]

All of SaVile’s victims were children ... hundreds of them ... many were poorly in hospitals .


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I agree totally.

If one of my family had been one of Saville's victims.
I wouldn't want to see a drama about him on TV less than 10 years after it all really came out.

Plus the fact he cheated being made to account for or pay for what he did.

I just think it's way too soon.

[Zizu]

i think the difference between saville and the other examples is that he was a prime time saturday night tv host among other things. It makes a huge difference.

I don't think anything should be shut up or not covered, but a large proportion of the public will find it particularly distasteful given it's Saville


True


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[Tom4784]

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[joeysteele]

i think the difference between saville and the other examples is that he was a prime time saturday night tv host among other things. It makes a huge difference.

I don't think anything should be shut up or not covered, but a large proportion of the public will find it particularly distasteful given it's Saville

You're absolutely right there in my view.

[Zizu]

We can and should talk about it, but to make a tacky Sunday night drama about it, from the people who facilitated the abuse, is disgusting.


Exactly


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[joeysteele]

We can and should talk about it, but to make a tacky Sunday night drama about it, from the people who facilitated the abuse, is disgusting.

I think that's what's even more distasteful too Dezzy.

[Mystic Mock]

We can and should talk about it, but to make a tacky Sunday night drama about it, from the people who facilitated the abuse, is disgusting.

I would agree with this.

[Marsh.]

Wasn't the Rochdale drama all about the families and the girls themselves?

This seems like a "See Steve Coogan play Saville" type drama, that's going to hell HIS story from HIS perspective.

There is maybe a room for some kind of dramatisation of what happened, but this doesn't sound like the one that should be made. Maybe if we were further in the future, but it's still way too close. And, as already said, made by the company that covered up a hell of a lot for him it's not going to be an unbiased or truthful take on events.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The audience it gets will decide

[rusticgal]

It’s a difficult one….any dramatisation of real life crime/murder/abuse is a sensitive issue more so when it involves children. However I recently watched Steve coogan’s portrayal in Stephen very sensitively acted and I don’t think anyone would take on the role without the knowledge that it was told in a respectful way as we all are aware of the coverup that took place.

[Zizu]

Wasn't the Rochdale drama all about the families and the girls themselves?

This seems like a "See Steve Coogan play Saville" type drama, that's going to hell HIS story from HIS perspective.

There is maybe a room for some kind of dramatisation of what happened, but this doesn't sound like the one that should be made. Maybe if we were further in the future, but it's still way too close. And, as already said, made by the company that covered up a hell of a lot for him it's not going to be an unbiased or truthful take on events.


Very true !


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[Cherie]

We will have to wait and see how this is handled, I think the BBC are right to take this on particularly given their culpability

Maybe it will help the victims in that their voices will finally be heard

We had dramas about Myra Hindley and Ian Brady and Fred and Rose West so its not exactly a new concept

[Cherie]

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/steve-coogan-to-play-jimmy-savile-in-new-bbc-one-drama-40889964.html

Alan Partridge star Coogan said: “To play Jimmy Savile was not a decision I took lightly.

“Neil McKay has written an intelligent script tackling sensitively a horrific story which, however harrowing, needs to be told.”

The makers of the programme were “working closely with many people whose lives were impacted by Savile to ensure their stories are told with sensitivity and respect”, the BBC said in a statement.

[arista]

Good Steve
trusts the Writer

[GoldHeart]

No it needs to be told.



He went on Ch4's Celebrity Big Brother, as a day guest
they had trouble getting him to leave

Had trouble getting him to leave???? Seriously How?.

I actually rewatched that CBB some time ago,and people think some of the housemates had a feeling he was a creep. Pete Burns said something along the lines of "he's got secrets he'll take to his grave" , which is so disturbing now .

[Tom4784]

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[GoldHeart]

I'd like to know how his victims feel about this.
Presumably and hopefully they'll have been properly consulted on this.

That's if anyone bothered to have enough empathy to actually consult them . More often than not when producers want to make a drama about real life trauma they care very little about the families or victim's involved.

When that disrespectful movie about Sharon Tate's murder was made , the director/ people involved never gave a crap about how upsetting it was for the sister . it wasn't handled sensitively at all.


So I'm not sure this Savile drama is a good idea, but we'll see .

[Cherie]

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/steve-coogan-to-play-jimmy-savile-in-new-bbc-one-drama-40889964.html

Alan Partridge star Coogan said: “To play Jimmy Savile was not a decision I took lightly.

“Neil McKay has written an intelligent script tackling sensitively a horrific story which, however harrowing, needs to be told.”

The makers of the programme were “working closely with many people whose lives were impacted by Savile to ensure their stories are told with sensitivity and respect”, the BBC said in a statement.


That's if anyone bothered to have enough empathy to actually consult them . More often than not when producers want to make a drama about real life trauma they care very little about the families or victim's involved.

When that disrespectful movie about Sharon Tate's murder was made , the director/ people involved never gave a crap about how upsetting it was for the sister . it wasn't handled sensitively at all.


So I'm not sure this Savile drama is a good idea, but we'll see .

.

[user104658]

Everything about this is tasteless. This abuse shouldn't be dramatised and it shouldn't be done by the very company that tried to cover it up, no doubt that they'll come off in the drama smelling of roses...

There's that as well which I hadn't even thought of. I find this abhorrent in general but it being made by the BBC is just on another level really isn't it. They knew what he was.

[Niamh.]

Those dramas weren't handled by the people who enabled those murderers though. I don't think enough time has passed since the news broke about this story, I think the BBC will lessen their own faults in this story, and I won't trust them not to turn this into a Bafta-baiting character piece for Steve Coogan.

There's that as well which I hadn't even thought of. I find this abhorrent in general but it being made by the BBC is just on another level really isn't it. They knew what he was.

Yeah that's true, they're not going to hang themselves out to dry, are they?

[user104658]

but a drama about say 9/11 is ok?


This seems like a "See Steve Coogan play Saville" type drama, that's going to hell HIS story from HIS perspective.

This for me as well basically. I personally think we could do without full dramatisations of things like 9/11 as well but, at the very least, I don't imagine that there are any that are character dramas about the hijackers themselves and that's the difference.

Again, I personally feel if something like this is being done, it's one thing to have an in-depth documentary series with dramatised/acted out sections (as is quite common in documentaries these days) but turning it into a full drama series is something quite different.

So no... I honestly don't think they're necessary. That goes for other similar series' that have been made in the past. The dramatisation of the Shannon Matthews story was ****ing gross too, made by the BBC, and I imagine this will be along the same lines.

[user104658]

Yeah that's true, they're not going to hang themselves out to dry, are they?

If BBC staff are featured in it finding out about his crimes, be prepared for lots of " :omg: D: :omg: ", instead of the more accurate "Oh jeez this is all coming out is it". He clearly had power and influence, and what he was up to was quite clearly an open secret.

[Niamh.]

If BBC staff are featured in it finding out about his crimes, be prepared for lots of " :omg: D: :omg: ", instead of the more accurate "Oh jeez this is all coming out is it". He clearly had power and influence, and what he was up to was quite clearly an open secret.

Did John Lyndon get banned from the BBC for trying to speak out against Jimmy Saville in the 70's?

[Cherie]

I can’t imagine there are many people left at the Beeb who worked with Saville? And they didn’t write the script

[bots]

the more i think about this, the worse it gets. The BBC will be selling this drama world wide as they always do. So they are in effect profiting from a predator that they enabled for decades

[Cherie]

I can’t imagine there are many people left at the Beeb who worked with Saville? And they didn’t write the script

Neil McKay

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0571032/

He wrote The Moors murders and Appropriate adult (Fred West

[joeysteele]

the more i think about this, the worse it gets. The BBC will be selling this drama world wide as they always do. So they are in effect profiting from a predator that they enabled for decades

Well yes, there's another sickening aspect to it.

[GoldHeart]

Also wasn't it enough that the Discovery channel released a documentary about Saville ?. Why do we need a full drama aswell let alone by the BBC of all broadcasting channels .

[Crimson Dynamo]

The BBC and all such TV broadcast platforms make most of their money from murder. Rarely will a hit drama not be about it. Line of Duty etc.

Why?

Because we love to watch them. David Tennant just got a lot of plaudits from his Dennis Nilson one and Martin Clunes starred in one about that taxi driver who hammered girls to death

[GoldHeart]

It's still fresh in people's heads , it adds another level of raw insensitivity to the whole thing aswell . As mentioned it's been what only 10 years ? since it was revealed what a disturbed creep Savile really was .

Maybe they should have waited longer , and then made sure the victims and people involved were ok with it ? . But as i said is it even necessary to make a drama .

[rusticgal]

However distasteful it might be....people will watch it. Just like we watch dramas about serial killers...where often children are involved.

[Livia]

Those dramas weren't handled by the people who enabled those murderers though. I don't think enough time has passed since the news broke about this story, I think the BBC will lessen their own faults in this story, and I won't trust them not to turn this into a Bafta-baiting character piece for Steve Coogan.

That is a very good point. Personally I think enough time has passed if it was handled sensitively... but not by the BBC.

[Zizu]

Did John Lyndon get banned from the BBC for trying to speak out against Jimmy Saville in the 70's?


Unofficially


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[Zizu]

....

[Vanessa]

I'm sure he will be great. He's an excellent actor.

[Marsh.]

The BBC and all such TV broadcast platforms make most of their money from murder. Rarely will a hit drama not be about it. Line of Duty etc.

Why?

Because we love to watch them. David Tennant just got a lot of plaudits from his Dennis Nilson one and Martin Clunes starred in one about that taxi driver who hammered girls to death

The BBC make dramas about the murders of fictional people in Line of Duty so that makes dramatisations of the real life abuse of real children ok?

Reach of the day.

[Gusto Brunt]

the more i think about this, the worse it gets. The BBC will be selling this drama world wide as they always do. So they are in effect profiting from a predator that they enabled for decades

It's sickening.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/11/29/14/51102787-10254427-Out_in_the_elements_With_temperatures_close_to_fre ezing_across_L-m-159_1638197859452.jpg

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10254427/Steve-Coogan-double-sexual-predator-Jimmy-Savile.html

[arista]

He Spoke Live
about Playing Jimmy Saville
on Sunday Brunch Ch4HD Live

Out later this year on, BBC1HD


He said it was Professionally played
and Jimmy Saville victims
came along to the shoot
they were in consultation with the BBC Producer
Jeff Pope.



At this time,
The British Horror of Saville Documentary
is on Netflix

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/09/09/01/75234547-12498115-image-a-66_1694217641801.jpg

The BBC have denied that their
controversial Jimmy Savile drama The Reckoning
has been delayed



[Savile drama has been delayed after
it was claimed 'bosses were urging more focus
to be placed on the victims']


[A BBC spokesperson said:
'We are currently in post-production for transmission
later this year.
An exact date will be announced in due course.'

The decision to chronicle Savile's life has come
under fire from many, however the BBC has
stated that it worked with his victims and will portray
the story 'with sensitivity and respect'.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12498115/Jimmy-Savile-drama-reckoning-delayed-BBC-bosses-focus-victims.html

[arista]

Starts Tomorrow & Tuesday 9PM -10PM

The Reckoning 1 of 4

I will record it.


Steve Coogan
and a Lady that was raped by Evil Saville
when she was 13.

Amazing Sam Brown Lady who was raped aged 13
backs this BBC production.

Both on BBC1HD Laura. (Victoria presenting) 9AM Sunday
end of her show.

[Gusto Brunt]

I know Coogan is 'famed' for his Savile impression, but that's always been comical.

I have seen clips from the programme and he still seems to be using that comical impression.

I think any drama about Savile needs to have an excellent actor in the role. It's not about 'how's about that then' and 'rattle, rattle, jewelry. jewelry.' Coogan isn't a good actor. He's okay but not great.

They could have used an experienced actor who really didn't sound that much like Savile. The voice could have been a mild version of the paedo.

It's the depiction of the man that is more important.

The BBC fell into the same trap when they used David Williams to play Frankie Howerd. He was nothing like him.

[Zizu]

Why on Earth are the BeeB funding this project !

I’m still trying forget all about this despicable monster


I’ve no idea why Coogan would want to be associated with any part of this .. imagine the research alone - can’t be good for his mental health

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[The Slim Reaper]

Why on Earth are the BeeB funding this project !

I’m still trying forget all about this despicable monster


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TV programs about the most heinous people and crimes have always been made made and are always popular with the viewing public.

[Swan]

Why on Earth are the BeeB funding this project !

I’m still trying forget all about this despicable monster


I’ve no idea why Coogan would want to be associated with any part of this .. imagine the research alone - can’t be good for his mental health

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License payers are, by "law".

[arista]

Look it is all filmed now

It is to show,
how Devious & Evil he was
Using Prime Ministers and Royals.

[Zizu]

Look it is all filmed now

It is to show,
how Devious & Evil he was
Using Prime Ministers and Royals.


I think we are all well aware of his evilness


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[arista]

I think we are all well aware of his evilness




Of Course
But the Prime Ministers
and Royals - Loving him.................................

Thats why
this a good drama

[arista]

Part 2 Tonight 9PM

[Beastie]

How many parts is there?

[Crimson Dynamo]

How many parts is there?

4

[bots]

i wont be watching it

[Crimson Dynamo]

i wont be watching it

we lived through it Bots we know the story

[arista]

How many parts is there?


4 parts


So next week
Mon/Tues 9PM as well

[bots]

i've said this before. The BBC enabled Saville and then covered it up. Now they are using license payers money to earn profit from selling the program around the world. It's obscene

[Zizu]

we lived through it Bots we know the story


I’m still trying to forget !


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[GoldHeart]

i've said this before. The BBC enabled Saville and then covered it up. Now they are using license payers money to earn profit from selling the program around the world. It's obscene

You're not wrong there !

Steve Coogan was uncanny as him though. I wonder though what it would have been like if they chose a unknown actor to play Saville.

I was honestly watching it in disgust & disbelief , the way he manipulated and used his power to prey on vulnerable people and victims. twisted nasty sicko, the real injustice ... is that he was never convicted whilst he was alive. He basically got away with all his crimes. The only closure his victims (who are still around) got was when he died. But they still have to live with the horrible trauma he put them all through.


He would make vulgar jokes on tv shows bragging about his behaviour, people knew about the rumours and they either turned a blind eye or nobody listened ... and he used his friends in high places to protect him ie the BBC , the royal family , Thatcher , Pope and even the police ! . It's grotesque how much of a cover up this was.

It took far to long for him to be exposed, a whole year after his death !!. The level of corruption is beyond words.

[Zizu]

What inspirational times we live in


Shall I watch a drama series about Jimmy fecking Savile or one about the modern Yorkshire Ripper


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