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arista
28-10-2021, 01:53 PM
He was live on Radio 5


He has a book.


He is right
50 year old marrying a 18 year old girl
is well creepy

Niamh.
28-10-2021, 01:54 PM
Yes I agree with him, who is he talking about?

arista
28-10-2021, 01:56 PM
Yes I agree with him, who is he talking about?


Anyone in general



He has a Graph in his new book.

arista
28-10-2021, 01:59 PM
https://cdn.waterstones.com/bookjackets/large/9781/5294/9781529413366.jpg


He Won Ch4's Celebrity Big Brother 1 in 2001.

Mystic Mock
28-10-2021, 02:12 PM
It's weird, but in that situation she's legal age, so it's not as creepy to me as the real creeps that like to go for younger.

Oliver_W
28-10-2021, 02:13 PM
I swear he's transitioning into Jack Nicholson.

Niamh.
28-10-2021, 02:13 PM
It's weird, but in that situation she's legal age, so it's not as creepy to me as the real creeps that like to go for younger.

It's pretty creepy, legal or not

arista
28-10-2021, 02:18 PM
It's pretty creepy, legal or not



Yes thats how he put it.

rusticgal
28-10-2021, 02:24 PM
I swear he's transitioning into Jack Nicholson.


:laugh:....he always reminded me of someone and I could never think who...thats exactly who he looks like.

rusticgal
28-10-2021, 02:25 PM
It's pretty creepy, legal or not


I agree..

GoldHeart
28-10-2021, 02:29 PM
It's pretty creepy, legal or not

I always think what could a 50 year old man or woman possibly have in common with an 18 year old boy or girl ??. But we all know there's very little talking happening .

But 18 is legal, but yeah it's still weird. I find it creepy when they have kids the same age or when the kids are actually older than their significant partner.

Crimson Dynamo
28-10-2021, 02:32 PM
Agree its beyond creepy

Oliver_W
28-10-2021, 03:04 PM
I'm not 30 and I'd feel like a creeper going for an 18 year old, let alone in 20-odd years!!

michael21
28-10-2021, 03:37 PM
I think there was some thing like this 2 years ago when a 19 year old girl married a 76 year old

bots
28-10-2021, 04:02 PM
this is an incredibly discriminatory viewpoint. Why is it more of an issue when marriage is involved vs not being married. At what point is a friendship between a younger and older person problematic. Should older people never associate with younger people in fear of being called an old perv?

People find friendships and love in the most unlikely settings, and I think it's very wrong to say something is wrong just because their is an age gap, particularly if it is perfectly legal. The only way we move forward as a society is if we understand different peoples viewpoints and outlawing relationships between young and old is only going to increase divisions and lack of understanding

arista
28-10-2021, 04:10 PM
this is an incredibly discriminatory viewpoint. Why is it more of an issue when marriage is involved vs not being married. At what point is a friendship between a younger and older person problematic. Should older people never associate with younger people in fear of being called an old perv?

People find friendships and love in the most unlikely settings, and I think it's very wrong to say something is wrong just because there is an age gap, particularly if it is perfectly legal. The only way we move forward as a society is if we understand different peoples viewpoints and outlawing relationships between young and old is only going to increase divisions and lack of understanding


Yes Ideal for Jack Dee and his new book.

Niamh.
28-10-2021, 04:13 PM
this is an incredibly discriminatory viewpoint. Why is it more of an issue when marriage is involved vs not being married. At what point is a friendship between a younger and older person problematic. Should older people never associate with younger people in fear of being called an old perv?

People find friendships and love in the most unlikely settings, and I think it's very wrong to say something is wrong just because their is an age gap, particularly if it is perfectly legal. The only way we move forward as a society is if we understand different peoples viewpoints and outlawing relationships between young and old is only going to increase divisions and lack of understanding

My daughter was still going to school when she was 18, if a 50 year old started sniffing around her there would be a big problem....

Crimson Dynamo
28-10-2021, 04:17 PM
My daughter was still going to school when she was 18, if a 50 year old started sniffing around her there would be a big problem....

too bloody right

arista
28-10-2021, 04:19 PM
My daughter was still going to school when she was 18, if a 50 year old started sniffing around her there would be a big problem....


Yes I can understand that.

GoldHeart
28-10-2021, 04:20 PM
this is an incredibly discriminatory viewpoint. Why is it more of an issue when marriage is involved vs not being married. At what point is a friendship between a younger and older person problematic. Should older people never associate with younger people in fear of being called an old perv?

People find friendships and love in the most unlikely settings, and I think it's very wrong to say something is wrong just because their is an age gap, particularly if it is perfectly legal. The only way we move forward as a society is if we understand different peoples viewpoints and outlawing relationships between young and old is only going to increase divisions and lack of understanding

BOTS people have always found big age gaps weird , especially when the younger person hasn't reached 21 yet.

I would personally feel uncomfortable at the thought of chasing a guy who's 18 ,and im nowhere near 50. I still think 18 year olds are young / immature , I know some people seem mature for their age but still.

Nobody is saying older people and younger people can't interact or be friendly , but as I've said already what could a 50 year old have in common with an 18 year old ? ,other than it being about sex and money ? :shrug:.

Before she was born ,he was in his 30s you have to admit that's weird. But each to their own , I wonder if they ever get mistaken for father & daughter , that would be Hella AWKWARD .

GoldHeart
28-10-2021, 04:27 PM
My daughter was still going to school when she was 18, if a 50 year old started sniffing around her there would be a big problem....

Exactly nobody wants their own kids getting pursued by someone older enough to be their mum or dad, you question their intentions and it raises suspicion.

But when they reach 18 , legally they're an adult
All you can do is advise them .

bots
28-10-2021, 04:28 PM
My daughter was still going to school when she was 18, if a 50 year old started sniffing around her there would be a big problem....

it is still discriminatory. If you are outlawing something purely on the basis of age, it is ageist, plain and simple.

Beso
28-10-2021, 04:31 PM
My daughter was still going to school when she was 18, if a 50 year old started sniffing around her there would be a big problem....

What if she was sniffing about him?

Crimson Dynamo
28-10-2021, 04:33 PM
it is still discriminatory. If you are outlawing something purely on the basis of age, it is ageist, plain and simple.

Good, call it ageist

Its also creepy, wrong, and ridiculous.

Crimson Dynamo
28-10-2021, 04:34 PM
and thankfully rare

MTVN
28-10-2021, 04:46 PM
Courtney Stodden vibes

bots
28-10-2021, 04:53 PM
people call out other forms of discrimination on this forum at the drop of a hat, but ageism has been rampant for a long time. I'm not getting at anyone on this thread, but ageism is real and people need to educate themselves and think about what they are actually saying

arista
28-10-2021, 04:53 PM
Courtney Stodden vibes


She is 27, though

GoldHeart
28-10-2021, 05:01 PM
people call out other forms of discrimination on this forum at the drop of a hat, but ageism has been rampant for a long time. I'm not getting at anyone on this thread, but ageism is real and people need to educate themselves and think about what they are actually saying


Why do you keep calling it 'ageism' ? , when people have given valid reasons for their opinions. Especially when some people on this forum have children.

Like I said it's not illegal but it's still weird , you can't change that .

Mystic Mock
28-10-2021, 05:12 PM
It's pretty creepy, legal or not

It's definitely weird.:laugh:

Mystic Mock
28-10-2021, 05:14 PM
this is an incredibly discriminatory viewpoint. Why is it more of an issue when marriage is involved vs not being married. At what point is a friendship between a younger and older person problematic. Should older people never associate with younger people in fear of being called an old perv?

People find friendships and love in the most unlikely settings, and I think it's very wrong to say something is wrong just because their is an age gap, particularly if it is perfectly legal. The only way we move forward as a society is if we understand different peoples viewpoints and outlawing relationships between young and old is only going to increase divisions and lack of understanding

While I personally find it weird, I do like this viewpoint.

bots
28-10-2021, 05:20 PM
Why do you keep calling it 'ageism' ? , when people have given valid reasons for their opinions. Especially when some people on this forum have children.

Like I said it's not illegal but it's still weird , you can't change that .

substitute "50 year old man" for any other discriminated group and see how long it would be before there was outrage

It is against the law to discriminate against someone purely on the basis of age. The point being that not only is it legal for a man to marry anyone of legal age, it is illegal to say he can't

thesheriff443
28-10-2021, 05:30 PM
I agree with bitontheside

I’d rather two people of different ages be happy than two people of the same age and the guy hitting and controlling his girlfriend

Liam-
28-10-2021, 05:34 PM
Someone’s age doesn’t make them a creep if they get into a relationship with someone of the legal age, is it normal? No, is it for everybody? No, does it hurt anybody as long as both parties are legal and consenting? No.

I have a feeling people wouldn’t be so judgey if the subject was about an older woman tbh, older woman with younger partners are seen as some sort of liberated goddesses, enjoying their life, while older men are seen as perverts for even finding younger women attractive, it’s a blindingly obvious double standard

Crimson Dynamo
28-10-2021, 05:36 PM
Ask any parent of an 18 years old boy or girl

How would you like your son and daughter to go out with a 50 year old?


100% answer the same

is all the point being made is

thesheriff443
28-10-2021, 05:59 PM
Ask any parent of an 18 years old boy or girl

How would you like your son and daughter to go out with a 50 year old?


100% answer the same

is all the point being made is

As parents you don’t get to choose who your son or daughter has a relationship with


I know some coutures have an arranged marriage which I see as far more a messed up relationship

Elliot
28-10-2021, 07:00 PM
it is still discriminatory. If you are outlawing something purely on the basis of age, it is ageist, plain and simple.

People could change 18 year old to 16 year old or 14 year old and make the same argument. Why even go there?

bots
28-10-2021, 07:04 PM
People could change 18 year old to 16 year old or 14 year old and make the same argument. Why even go there?

it's not something i am making up, it's the law of the land, something that the majority of people on this forum don't seem to have grasped. Very disappointing

Niamh.
28-10-2021, 07:07 PM
Someone’s age doesn’t make them a creep if they get into a relationship with someone of the legal age, is it normal? No, is it for everybody? No, does it hurt anybody as long as both parties are legal and consenting? No.

I have a feeling people wouldn’t be so judgey if the subject was about an older woman tbh, older woman with younger partners are seen as some sort of liberated goddesses, enjoying their life, while older men are seen as perverts for even finding younger women attractive, it’s a blindingly obvious double standardI'd find it just as creepy actually

Crimson Dynamo
28-10-2021, 07:21 PM
I'd find it just as creepy actually

yep

and i would hope all members do

Toy Soldier
28-10-2021, 08:15 PM
this is an incredibly discriminatory viewpoint. Why is it more of an issue when marriage is involved vs not being married. At what point is a friendship between a younger and older person problematic. Should older people never associate with younger people in fear of being called an old perv?

People find friendships and love in the most unlikely settings, and I think it's very wrong to say something is wrong just because their is an age gap, particularly if it is perfectly legal. The only way we move forward as a society is if we understand different peoples viewpoints and outlawing relationships between young and old is only going to increase divisions and lack of understanding


It’s not about the age of the older partner, nor is it about the size of the gap, it’s purely about the age of the younger partner.

If a 30 year old woman wants to marry a 70 year old man - for whatever reason - then while I’d find that unusual it’s not “creepy” and nor would it be strange for them to have things in common.

That’s a 40 year age gap.

If a 45 year old man is hooking up with 18 year old girls then yes it is massively questionable and creepy.

That’s a 27 year age gap. A full 13 years less than the above example - and yet, a totally different scenario.

Toy Soldier
28-10-2021, 08:23 PM
I have a feeling people wouldn’t be so judgey if the subject was about an older woman tbh, older woman with younger partners are seen as some sort of liberated goddesses, enjoying their life, while older men are seen as perverts for even finding younger women attractive, it’s a blindingly obvious double standard



Much older women with boys in their late teens and early 20’s are not seen as “liberated goddesses” they’re plastered across the front page of The Star as a joke. What world are you living in? The plot of a zesty television serial?

it's not something i am making up, it's the law of the land, something that the majority of people on this forum don't seem to have grasped. Very disappointing.

This idea that legality = morality comes up quite frequently on this forum. Where are people getting that idea? They barely intersect and when they do it’s happenstance not by design.

Also the idea that it’s “illegal” to find large age gaps with a very young younger partner to be creepy is a bit out there :joker:. I assume you know it’s not illegal and are just ranting.

bots
28-10-2021, 08:34 PM
i am making the point of the agism that exists on this forum. If I had made the same comment about an ethnic minority, i would have been hounded off the forum

Beso
29-10-2021, 06:39 AM
Much older women with boys in their late teens and early 20’s are not seen as “liberated goddesses” they’re plastered across the front page of The Star as a joke. What world are you living in? The plot of a zesty television serial?



This idea that legality = morality comes up quite frequently on this forum. Where are people getting that idea? They barely intersect and when they do it’s happenstance not by design.

Also the idea that it’s “illegal” to find large age gaps with a very young younger partner to be creepy is a bit out there :joker:. I assume you know it’s not illegal and are just ranting.



Do you have any links for the front page splashes where a 40 plus woman has been sleeping with an 18 yr old?

Niamh.
29-10-2021, 08:10 AM
It’s not about the age of the older partner, nor is it about the size of the gap, it’s purely about the age of the younger partner.

If a 30 year old woman wants to marry a 70 year old man - for whatever reason - then while I’d find that unusual it’s not “creepy” and nor would it be strange for them to have things in common.

That’s a 40 year age gap.

If a 45 year old man is hooking up with 18 year old girls then yes it is massively questionable and creepy.

That’s a 27 year age gap. A full 13 years less than the above example - and yet, a totally different scenario.

Exactly. An 18 year old is a teenager, still a child in a lot of ways, especially emotionally. Like I said my daughter was still in school at that age (your College is just the last 2 years of secondary school here) My son is 17 and he will still be in school at 18, if he came home with a 50 year old woman I would be very angry with that woman and seriously questioning her interest in -imo- a child. I would not be happy about that.

Of course I'd still have a lot of concerns about it if he were 30 and came home with a 62 year old such as him being able to have children, would he end up being a carer at a young age etc but not concerns that he was being taking advantage of or not emotionally capable for the relationship. There's a huge difference between the two even though the age gap would be the same

bots
29-10-2021, 08:17 AM
People are really not understanding the issue here. This is out and out age discrimination. In the same way that you can't say an entire ethnic group are rapists or murders, you cannot say all people over a certain age are creepy perverts. Suggesting that an older person cannot be friends with someone younger is not only criminally insulting to that demographic it quite frankly an obscene restriction on the freedoms of what an older person can or cannot do.

That is my last words in this thread, but, honestly, i expected better

thesheriff443
29-10-2021, 08:46 AM
@niamh and toy soldier

What would your reaction be if your daughters do bring and older man home?

You can’t stop them from seeing an older person if that’s what they choose

Why is ok for you to call and 18 year old a child and yet at that age they can join the army and be killed.

Niamh.
29-10-2021, 08:52 AM
@niamh and toy soldier

What would your reaction be if your daughters do bring and older man home?

You can’t stop them from seeing an older person if that’s what they choose

Why is ok for you to call and 18 year old a child and yet at that age they can join the army and be killed.

My 17 (nearly 18 year old) is still very much a child to me. I wouldn't want him to join the Army either so not sure what your point there is? I already said up thread at least twice what my reaction would be

thesheriff443
29-10-2021, 09:06 AM
My 17 (nearly 18 year old) is still very much a child to me. I wouldn't want him to join the Army either so not sure what your point there is? I already said up thread at least twice what my reaction would be

My point is not all 18 year olds are the same or classed as children
I haven’t read every post but at the end of the day it’s not the parents that get to say who their offspring choose to date.

GoldHeart
29-10-2021, 09:12 AM
Someone’s age doesn’t make them a creep if they get into a relationship with someone of the legal age, is it normal? No, is it for everybody? No, does it hurt anybody as long as both parties are legal and consenting? No.

I have a feeling people wouldn’t be so judgey if the subject was about an older woman tbh, older woman with younger partners are seen as some sort of liberated goddesses, enjoying their life, while older men are seen as perverts for even finding younger women attractive, it’s a blindingly obvious double standard

It doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman, it's still a big age gap and still weird. But as I said each to their own if it's a genuine relationship.

I know what you're saying though ,and sometimes there is a double standard and the guy is called a " creep " and usually the woman is seen as a "cougar" and it's laughed about . But some older women still get judged for dating younger men anyway .

Imo an 18 year old is still young and immature , they're usually naive. Can any of us say we had the same level of maturity when we were 18 ? as we do now ?. Obviously I know everyone is different though.

Niamh.
29-10-2021, 09:26 AM
My point is not all 18 year olds are the same or classed as children

I haven’t read every post but at the end of the day it’s not the parents that get to say who their offspring choose to date.Well I kind of do when they're still in school and under my roof. .

GoldHeart
29-10-2021, 09:30 AM
Plus you question the intentions of the much older person , like I said most the time it's about sex and money.

Toy Soldier
29-10-2021, 09:46 AM
@niamh and toy soldier

What would your reaction be if your daughters do bring and older man home?

You can’t stop them from seeing an older person if that’s what they choose

You can't "stop" them but you can have an open and frank conversation with them, and you can watch that man like a hawk to ensure that she hasn't gotten herself into a bad situation. I very rarely "stop" my daughter from doing anything at all (within reason) but I do talk to her openly about the world, and people, and encourage her to think things through properly. So no I wouldn't "forbid" her from doing it - but I would tell her that I find the motivations and mindset of that older man to be suspect (and creepy).

Why is ok for you to call and 18 year old a child and yet at that age they can join the army and be killed.

That is horrendous as well, the fact that we still send teenagers off as soldiers is not "OK" at all for me.

Livia
29-10-2021, 10:03 AM
I reckon there's a tiny minority of genuine love affairs between the very young and the very old and the rest is made up of young people attracted to money and power and old people attracted by youth and beauty.

Toy Soldier
29-10-2021, 10:15 AM
My dad (who is 65+) is married to someone who is in her early 40's, they met when he was about 60 and she was in her mid 30's ... I have to admit I find it a little odd in the sense of ... why on earth is she attracted to my dad who is neither rich nor "young for his age" - he's genuinely pushing "little old man" status at this point. I mean, he's not poor, but he retired in his late 50's and is well into his pension pot already :joker:. Plus she's on about £50k herself and has no kids so it's not about that :think:.

So yeah. I don't really "get it" and it's odd that someone who is technically my "stepmother" is basically the same age as my sister :laugh: ... but I don't find their relationship creepy ... because again, it's not about the GAP so much as the AGE. Someone pushing 40 clearly knows what they're doing. Even over about 25, I'd still find it pretty strange, but there's a pretty big difference between a 25 year old and an 18 year old. I would genuinely always worry about the motivations of a GROWN UP adult (anyone over about 30) getting into a relationship with an 18 year old just out of school. It just feels like a huge imbalance in terms of life experience, and that sadly often ends up being controlling, and I think that's probably a large part of the appeal for many of these older partners.

thesheriff443
29-10-2021, 11:46 AM
Well I kind of do when they're still in school and under my roof. .

Under the age of 18 you have a little bit of leverage but that I think, not while you are living under my roof is an outdated way of dealing with things.

Ts has a much better approach

Niamh.
29-10-2021, 12:04 PM
Under the age of 18 you have a little bit of leverage but that I think, not while you are living under my roof is an outdated way of dealing with things.

Ts has a much better approach

It's worked pretty well for me so far and my two are almost grown so thanks for the advise but I'll stick with my own way :thumbs:

michael21
29-10-2021, 12:07 PM
It's worked pretty well for me so far and my two are almost grown so thanks for the advise but I'll stick with my own way :thumbs:

Just imagine if someone chages there parenting skills just because they read it on a forum :laugh:

Niamh.
29-10-2021, 12:08 PM
Just imagine if someone chages there parenting skills just because they read it on a forum :laugh:

:laugh:

joeysteele
29-10-2021, 12:08 PM
For me age is just a number.

As long as both are of a legal age and they both want to be together and are happy.
Why delay happiness.

Celebrities marry much younger people.

Often much more than 22 years between them too.

I do understand it can seem creepy or perhaps even unacceptable however too.

Personally I see no issue if they're happy.

thesheriff443
29-10-2021, 12:20 PM
It's worked pretty well for me so far and my two are almost grown so thanks for the advise but I'll stick with my own way :thumbs:

I wasn’t giving you advice

thesheriff443
29-10-2021, 12:22 PM
Just imagine if someone chages there parenting skills just because they read it on a forum :laugh:

There is more of a chance of that happening than anyone believing anything you post

Oliver_W
29-10-2021, 12:23 PM
My dad (who is 65+) is married to someone who is in her early 40's, they met when he was about 60 and she was in her mid 30's ... I have to admit I find it a little odd in the sense of ... why on earth is she attracted to my dad who is neither rich nor "young for his age" - he's genuinely pushing "little old man" status at this point. I mean, he's not poor, but he retired in his late 50's and is well into his pension pot already :joker:. Plus she's on about £50k herself and has no kids so it's not about that :think:.

So yeah. I don't really "get it" and it's odd that someone who is technically my "stepmother" is basically the same age as my sister :laugh: ... but I don't find their relationship creepy ... because again, it's not about the GAP so much as the AGE. Someone pushing 40 clearly knows what they're doing. Even over about 25, I'd still find it pretty strange, but there's a pretty big difference between a 25 year old and an 18 year old. I would genuinely always worry about the motivations of a GROWN UP adult (anyone over about 30) getting into a relationship with an 18 year old just out of school. It just feels like a huge imbalance in terms of life experience, and that sadly often ends up being controlling, and I think that's probably a large part of the appeal for many of these older partners.
Maybe she's playing the long game and wants YOU!

Vicky.
30-10-2021, 09:47 AM
I agree tbh

Infact found it creepy when an 18 year old hit on me not long ago. Yet I seem fine with 24. I think its just the age of the younger one thats a bit iffy tbh. Each to their own I guess but I couldn't do it.

Vicky.
30-10-2021, 09:58 AM
Maybe she's playing the long game and wants YOU!

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.glamour.com%2Fphotos%2F5755 acb9a67666b43e5d3ce3%2Fmaster%2Fw_1024%252Cc_limit %2Fstuck-in-the-elevator.gif&f=1&nofb=1

Maybe

ThomasC
30-10-2021, 10:12 AM
I disagree with most on here.

If they are both happy then so be it.

Who am I to disagree in something that doesn't concern me. They are both legal and as long as there's no element of grooming, coercion then good luck to them.

Whether it's creepy just because I don't agree with it, I don't know.

We all choose to live our lives how we see fit. Love is love.

ThomasC
30-10-2021, 10:13 AM
substitute "50 year old man" for any other discriminated group and see how long it would be before there was outrage

It is against the law to discriminate against someone purely on the basis of age. The point being that not only is it legal for a man to marry anyone of legal age, it is illegal to say he can't

Agreed and I agree with your other post which was well articulated.

ThomasC
30-10-2021, 10:15 AM
Ask any parent of an 18 years old boy or girl

How would you like your son and daughter to go out with a 50 year old?


100% answer the same

is all the point being made is

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AnnieK
30-10-2021, 10:18 AM
I can look at it from two different angles.

When I was 21 I was with a guy a lot older than me for a good few years. He was very young minded and was far more laid back than I was. My folks were ok with it as he seemed younger and calmed me down a lot. If they hadn't have been ok with it, they would have just had to deal with it as it was my life etc.

Now, on the other hand if my son brought home someone who was a lot older than him when he was 18.....I'm not too sure how I would deal with that.

Tldr.....I think its ok until it directly affects me then I might feel differently :laugh:

ThomasC
30-10-2021, 10:19 AM
Well I kind of do when they're still in school and under my roof. .

It's not as clear cut as that because when a child reaches a certain age, 16+ the rights of parental responsibility diminish...18+ not at all.

Niamh.
30-10-2021, 11:55 AM
I disagree with most on here.



If they are both happy then so be it.



Who am I to disagree in something that doesn't concern me. They are both legal and as long as there's no element of grooming, coercion then good luck to them.



Whether it's creepy just because I don't agree with it, I don't know.



We all choose to live our lives how we see fit. Love is love.With all due respect Thomas, you don't have kids (yet?) You may think differently then

Niamh.
30-10-2021, 11:56 AM
I can look at it from two different angles.

When I was 21 I was with a guy a lot older than me for a good few years. He was very young minded and was far more laid back than I was. My folks were ok with it as he seemed younger and calmed me down a lot. If they hadn't have been ok with it, they would have just had to deal with it as it was my life etc.

Now, on the other hand if my son brought home someone who was a lot older than him when he was 18.....I'm not too sure how I would deal with that.

Tldr.....I think its ok until it directly affects me then I might feel differently [emoji23][emoji1][emoji102]

Niamh.
30-10-2021, 11:57 AM
It's not as clear cut as that because when a child reaches a certain age, 16+ the rights of parental responsibility diminish...18+ not at all.It is in my house [emoji14] thankfully my kids are angels though [emoji1]

ThomasC
01-11-2021, 04:55 PM
With all due respect Thomas, you don't have kids (yet?) You may think differently then

Yeah maybe.

I don't know if I would be happy with the decision, but I'd just want them to be happy.

Niamh.
01-11-2021, 06:18 PM
Yeah maybe.



I don't know if I would be happy with the decision, but I'd just want them to be happy.I do want my kids to be happy but also safe and not taken advantage of

Toy Soldier
01-11-2021, 08:45 PM
I so want my kids to be happy but also safe and not taken advantage of


That’s my thoughts on it too, which is why I say it’s about the age of the younger partner rather than the actual “gap”. Of course people can ALWAYS be taken advantage of but I’d be fairly confident that a 30+ year old knows what they’re doing as much as they ever will… a young person in their late teens and early 20’s is just too likely to be easily manipulated by a much older person with vastly more world experience for me to be comfortable with it. I struggle to see how a 50 year old can see a 20 year old as anything but a kid, if I can’t at 36.

Glenn.
01-11-2021, 10:53 PM
I think unless it’s something that’s personally affecting you it’s not really anyones place to be judging them.

Toy Soldier
02-11-2021, 06:13 AM
I think unless it’s something that’s personally affecting you it’s not really anyones place to be judging them.


That’s Hyperindividualism; we live in a society. Established societal norms affect everyone.

ThomasC
02-11-2021, 07:30 AM
I so want my kids to be happy but also safe and not taken advantage of

Yeah and I don't doubt that for one second hence my original post about it being for the right reasons.

I suppose as good as the relationship could and can be, some parents aren't going to get over that drastic gap.

Niamh.
02-11-2021, 09:00 AM
Yeah and I don't doubt that for one second hence my original post about it being for the right reasons.

I suppose as good as the relationship could and can be, some parents aren't going to get over that drastic gap.

Yeah and it's not even the age gap as such, as TS said, it's the age of the younger person in the particular situation we're discussing, the same age gap between a 30 year old and a 62 year old, is completely different

Niamh.
02-11-2021, 09:01 AM
I think unless it’s something that’s personally affecting you it’s not really anyones place to be judging them.

If it's your 18 year old in the situation, who may still be in school etc then I would argue that it is personally affecting you

Glenn.
02-11-2021, 06:39 PM
If it's your 18 year old in the situation, who may still be in school etc then I would argue that it is personally affecting you

Isn’t that what I’ve just said you hag?

Beso
02-11-2021, 07:37 PM
I wonder how many 18yr old women fancy Gino di campio.

Beso
02-11-2021, 07:40 PM
The title shouldn't read 18yr old girl, they are women..

You dont say 18yr old boy...you would say 18ur old youth in certain circumstances, and boy in others I suppose, but man would also be used...or male.

I wouldn't know the female terminology for youth?

Niamh.
02-11-2021, 08:55 PM
Isn’t that what I’ve just said you hag?Oh [emoji28]

Toy Soldier
03-11-2021, 06:03 AM
The title shouldn't read 18yr old girl, they are women..

You dont say 18yr old boy...you would say 18ur old youth in certain circumstances, and boy in others I suppose, but man would also be used...or male.

I wouldn't know the female terminology for youth?


I definitely refer to 18 year old males as “boys” I’m afraid Parmy. They are just kids at that age.

Beso
03-11-2021, 07:11 AM
I definitely refer to 18 year old males as “boys” I’m afraid Parmy. They are just kids at that age.

I'm sure they will be delighted to be called a kid at that age!!

Niamh.
03-11-2021, 08:50 AM
I definitely refer to 18 year old males as “boys” I’m afraid Parmy. They are just kids at that age.

I was talking to Luke (17) yesterday about getting his provisional drivers license sorted because he just passed his theory test, and I said come on you're nearly an adult now you should be doing this stuff yourself, he said "I'm still a child" :laugh: I think he'd be happy to be a child for a while yet (pure laziness of having to organise stuff himself of course)

Toy Soldier
03-11-2021, 02:14 PM
I'm sure they will be delighted to be called a kid at that age!!


They don’t like being called kids at 12 either.

GoldHeart
03-11-2021, 07:36 PM
I was talking to Luke (17) yesterday about getting his provisional drivers license sorted because he just passed his theory test, and I said come on you're nearly an adult now you should be doing this stuff yourself, he said "I'm still a child" :laugh: I think he'd be happy to be a child for a while yet (pure laziness of having to organise stuff himself of course)


Haven't you noticed though kids and teenagers love being treated like and called a kid , until they want to rebel then suddenly they're a 'grown up ' .

I remember at junior school ,when the game hang Man was being played ,and other pupils wanted the teacher to put all the said letters on the board, so they were not repeated, she was like "no you're not babies" to which they replied "yes we are " or something to that effect :joker:.

Vicky.
04-11-2021, 10:55 AM
I was talking to Luke (17) yesterday about getting his provisional drivers license sorted because he just passed his theory test, and I said come on you're nearly an adult now you should be doing this stuff yourself, he said "I'm still a child" :laugh: I think he'd be happy to be a child for a while yet (pure laziness of having to organise stuff himself of course)

Yes they are children until it suits them to claim adulthood :suspect: I remember that age well and I thought I was some master of manipulation when obviously my parents knew I was just taking the piss.

Vicky.
04-11-2021, 10:57 AM
They don’t like being called kids at 12 either.

Yup. Skye goes off it when I call her a child. Her preferred term is 'pre teen' and she even asked for young adult once.. though shes not even bloody 9 yet.
Yet I say to get her own uniform for school and suddenly I am the bad guy who is basically using child labour.

Niamh.
04-11-2021, 11:04 AM
Haven't you noticed though kids and teenagers love being treated like and called a kid , until they want to rebel then suddenly they're a 'grown up ' .

I remember at junior school ,when the game hang Man was being played ,and other pupils wanted the teacher to put all the said letters on the board, so they were not repeated, she was like "no you're not babies" to which they replied "yes we are " or something to that effect :joker:.

Yes they are children until it suits them to claim adulthood :suspect: I remember that age well and I thought I was some master of manipulation when obviously my parents knew I was just taking the piss.

I think Luke would be happy to be babied forever :laugh:

Vicky.
04-11-2021, 12:23 PM
I think Luke would be happy to be babied forever :laugh:

Until you tell him not to do something :D Then he is an adult.

Niamh.
04-11-2021, 12:26 PM
Until you tell him not to do something :D Then he is an adult.

He's seriously never done that yet :laugh:

Vicky.
04-11-2021, 12:32 PM
He's seriously never done that yet :laugh:

He will soon :laugh:

Niamh.
04-11-2021, 12:51 PM
He will soon [emoji23]Probably [emoji38]

Beso
04-11-2021, 01:37 PM
All that's fine and well, but do they fancy Gino di campo?

Niamh.
04-11-2021, 01:42 PM
All that's fine and well, but do they fancy Gino di campo?Who?