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Redway
31-10-2021, 10:00 AM
Somewhat controversial one but this isn’t exactly a site for children and virtually the whole world takes drugs at the weekend anyhow (legal or illicit) so it’s just one of them.

Crimson Dynamo
31-10-2021, 10:11 AM
9

bots
31-10-2021, 10:15 AM
i'm a sucker for an ibuprofen when i'm feeling crappy

Liam-
31-10-2021, 10:20 AM
Alcohol and I tried a few fags in my teenage years, but never stuck to it, I have genuinely never seen the appeal of doing drugs at all and those sorts of people that go on about what different things they took in the clubs every weekend, as if taking drugs is a replacement for having an actual personality, do my nut in

thesheriff443
31-10-2021, 10:35 AM
Alcohol and I tried a few fags in my teenage years, but never stuck to it, I have genuinely never seen the appeal of doing drugs at all and those sorts of people that go on about what different things they took in the clubs every weekend, as if taking drugs is a replacement for having an actual personality, do my nut in

Great post.

AnnieK
31-10-2021, 10:35 AM
9
Did a lot of recreational drugs when I was younger...when I was clubbing no-one really drank alcohol

Daniel-X
31-10-2021, 10:35 AM
Alcohol
Marijuana
Tobacco
Cocaine
Ecstasy
Ketamine
2CB

Nitrous oxide/poppers too but idk if you’d consider them drugs as such.

Calderyon
31-10-2021, 10:46 AM
Painkillers.

Ibuprofen, paracetamol etc.

For pain only, obviously.

Redway
31-10-2021, 12:40 PM
Alcohol
Tobacco
Marijuana
Ketamine
Magic mushrooms

I’m looking to try D.M.T. in particular one day but I’m too paranoid about having a bad trip. At least mushrooms wear off after a few hours. Edibles and other psychedelics go on for hours and hours and when you’re having an angsty trip that doesn’t make for much fun. I don’t get bad times like that on edibles anymore (I’ve become accustomed to the process of microdosing) but I feel like other psychedelics once you take enough to get you high at all really don’t have any off-button.

Anyone on here had any experience with D.M.T./L.S.D.?

AnnieK
31-10-2021, 01:10 PM
Alcohol
Tobacco
Marijuana
Ketamine
Magic mushrooms

I’m looking to try D.M.T. in particular one day but I’m too paranoid about having a bad trip. At least mushrooms wear off after a few hours. Edibles and other psychedelics go on for hours and hours and when you’re having an angsty trip that doesn’t make for much fun. I don’t get bad times like that on edibles anymore (I’ve become accustomed to the process of microdosing) but I feel like other psychedelics once you take enough to get you high at all really don’t have any off-button.

Anyone on here had any experience with D.M.T./L.S.D.?

I have used LSD many times. I never had a bad trip but I have seen people who have.

Cal.
31-10-2021, 01:20 PM
Alcohol
Marijuana
Tobacco
Cocaine
Ecstasy
Ketamine
2CB

Nitrous oxide/poppers too but idk if you’d consider them drugs as such.

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rusticgal
31-10-2021, 01:49 PM
I smoke tobacco occasionally...I have a glass of wine almost daily and have tried marijuana twice years ago.

smudgie
31-10-2021, 02:20 PM
Drink and cigs.
Bit of hash back in the day.


Speed...whatever that equates to now.
Opiates.
All prescription of course.
I take 23 tablets a day so god only knows what is in them.:blush:

Mystic Mock
31-10-2021, 06:57 PM
Alcohol and of course the hardest Drug out there... Calpol.

MTVN
31-10-2021, 07:18 PM
Never been very attracted to reality altering drugs like LCD, too worried about it going badly

I will occasionally take drugs that enhance your experience though like coke

Alf
31-10-2021, 07:31 PM
E's were fairly popular in my peak days. Definitely the greatest feeling as well, everything was just so good and they gave you great confidence to chat, much better than doing speed, where the come down was horrible.

LSD (or as we called them, trips) just used to make me have a permanent grin on my face that I couldn't get rid of.

Coke is just too expensive because you have to keep going back for more as the buzz doesn't last that long. On an E you could go all night long.

I'm just a beer and cigs man these days. My drug taking days are well and truly over.

user104658
01-11-2021, 10:05 AM
8 from the list, I'm not falling into this trick of incriminating myself on a public poll :oh:.

These days I wouldn't have anything other than very occasional alcohol. Frankly the idea is just exhausting.

I'm wondering why heroin/opiates aren't on this list? Not that I've done them (other than sneaking a couple of 60mg dihydrocodeines from time to time :umm2: ) but just wondering if it was a deliberate choice to not ask about it?

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 11:33 AM
Alcohol and I tried a few fags in my teenage years, but never stuck to it, I have genuinely never seen the appeal of doing drugs at all and those sorts of people that go on about what different things they took in the clubs every weekend, as if taking drugs is a replacement for having an actual personality, do my nut in

I don't think this tbh. I see drugs as enhancing my personality somewhat rather than giving me one. Confidence especially. Which seems to be a common reason for getting drunk to many.

I mean, I can quite happily do without too. But if theres stuff on offer and its not a hard line for me, and the situation is right, and I feel like it I will go for it. Hence, having tried so much :laugh: The opportunities present themselves so often I often think its meant to be.

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 11:36 AM
Never been very attracted to reality altering drugs like LCD, too worried about it going badly

That was me until recently when I was a little silly and didnt quite understand a drug I took and its effects, as I trusted the person who had it to not have anything daft. And they assumed I would know about what I was about to take. Crossed wires really but ended quite well and my fear of tripping badly has now gone. Seems to be about your mindset rather than much else from what I have heard, think its gunna be bad, it will be bad. Hence avoiding for all my life as I knew I would just panic on the first try.

Crimson Dynamo
01-11-2021, 11:45 AM
I remember in the 90s working in offices and going around London and the UK doing presentations and meeting people you could definitely tell those who were on E every weekend and raving and those who were not

Also people would change all of a sudden and lose a bit of weight and you would think "yep they have just discovered E"

The change on the terraces was remarkable too

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 12:41 PM
I remember in the 90s working in offices and going around London and the UK doing presentations and meeting people you could definitely tell those who were on E every weekend and raving and those who were not

Also people would change all of a sudden and lose a bit of weight and you would think "yep they have just discovered E"

The change on the terraces was remarkable too

This is me. Rediscovering it after many many years. I think the positive changes are down to more than just E though, personally :laugh: But it has certainly helped lift me when I was down over time.

Redway
01-11-2021, 12:49 PM
8 from the list, I'm not falling into this trick of incriminating myself on a public poll :oh:.

These days I wouldn't have anything other than very occasional alcohol. Frankly the idea is just exhausting.

I'm wondering why heroin/opiates aren't on this list? Not that I've done them (other than sneaking a couple of 60mg dihydrocodeines from time to time :umm2: ) but just wondering if it was a deliberate choice to not ask about it?

The God’s-honest truth is that I actually forgot about the likes of heroin but either way I just feel like including that on the poll would’ve been a step too far. Anything from alcohol to straight coke are the drugs that are seen as more socially acceptable to experiment with. Heroin’s just a dark hole that not many people would even admit to taking in the first place. Meth. was already kind of pushing it. Heroin is just something else.

Niamh.
01-11-2021, 12:52 PM
Crack Cocaine is pretty hardcore too isn't it? I always thought that was at a similar level to heroin

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 01:01 PM
I would probably put crack at around heroin level tbh. Would be one of my firm lines. Which I am sure anyone who cares is grateful to know :D

AnnieK
01-11-2021, 01:06 PM
I took a lot of drugs in my younger years and I do think they changed me...quite a lot. I was the typical raver....out all weekend and off my face from friday to Sunday. Spent the week recovering to do it all again. After I decided to calm it down a bit, my confidence was massively affected. I was always quite shy but without the effects of the drugs to help me, I became painfully shy and had no confidence. I know a lot of people like that. Took ages to build my confidence back up without that crux. We all used to go to a club and then back to various places afterwards and everyone knew and loved everyone etc etc.....we all decided to meet up once.midweek on a carpark....without the pills and whizz, everyone just sat in their cars smoking weed and nodding at each other.

I don't regret any of it but they did change me.

Redway
01-11-2021, 01:17 PM
Crack Cocaine is pretty hardcore too isn't it? I always thought that was at a similar level to heroin

That’s true but I feel like more people would admit to doing coke in any form (even the harder crack form) than heroin (which most people see as a straight-up no-no).

I’d never judge anyone for taking any kind of drug but heroin’s a very funny one. I’d have to be on a well-paid dare to even consider going anywhere near it in anything other than the medically-prescribed derivatives of it.

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 01:17 PM
Seem to have changed me in a positive way. Its hard to explain but I kinda get more mental clarity when I am high? Like, stuff I know deep down but try to deny to myself, I deal with mentally and become better and less stressed for it? And that spills out into the rest of my life too. One night like this can make permanent changes. Its odd. As really you would expect the effects to wear off as the drug does but it doesn't for me seemingly. That said, drugs have helped my pain issues massively also, so that helps. Maybe they are tied in together? Who knows.

I know not to cane it too much though, else the positive effects could change.

Redway
01-11-2021, 01:18 PM
I would probably put crack at around heroin level tbh. Would be one of my firm lines. Which I am sure anyone who cares is grateful to know :D

I really hope this doesn’t come out the wrong way (I’m literally just asking out of curiosity) but have you ever done anything beyond crack?

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 01:19 PM
I really hope this doesn’t come out the wrong way (I’m literally just asking out of curiosity) but have you ever done anything beyond crack?

No. Not done crack either :p

Mind, apparently diamorphine is 'clean heroin' so I have tried that in labour but not outside of that.

Niamh.
01-11-2021, 01:21 PM
Seem to have changed me in a positive way. Its hard to explain but I kinda get more mental clarity when I am high? Like, stuff I know deep down but try to deny to myself, I deal with mentally and become better and less stressed for it? And that spills out into the rest of my life too. One night like this can make permanent changes. Its odd. As really you would expect the effects to wear off as the drug does but it doesn't for me seemingly. That said, drugs have helped my pain issues massively also, so that helps. Maybe they are tied in together? Who knows.

I know not to cane it too much though, else the positive effects could change.

Wasn't the original intention for Ecstasy (or at least one of the idea's for it use) as a therapy for people (particularly soldiers I think) suffering from PTSD? A way for them to open up and talk about trauma that they couldn't ordinarily cope with reliving and talking about? I'm sure I saw that on some documentary. Sounds a bit like what you're saying there

thesheriff443
01-11-2021, 01:23 PM
You lot make me laugh with drugs
They just interfere with your brain,the idea that you are a better more confident person while on them is nonsense

You are the same person
It’s like going out and not drinking you see all the idiots making fools of themselves, well that is or was you.

Talking too fast or too slow. You couldn’t dance before drugs you can’t sing before drugs you ain’t some love machine you just silly people thinking you can



In every case you look ridiculous

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 01:23 PM
Wasn't the original intention for Ecstasy (or at least one of the idea's for it use) as a therapy for people (particularly soldiers I think) suffering from PTSD? A way for them to open up and talk about trauma that they couldn't ordinarily cope with reliving and talking about? I'm sure I saw that on some documentary. Sounds a bit like what you're saying there

I read that too. Its used (or was used) somewhere for marriage therapy also as it lets people open up more than they otherwise would. You lose your filter. So everything comes out. Oddly, I seem to have now kinda permanently lost my filter with certain people (and even situations, I suddenly have no issue dancing in public, which I never thought I would say) and its made everything much better?! Its so so hard to explain but I really feel like I am changed for the better now and everything is so much easier.

Not encouraging anyone to take drugs by any stretch of the imagination however I cannot deny my experience tbh.

(Also maybe relevant, I had LOADS of life changes at the same time as this. So its possible the drugs only contributed slightly, or not at all. But it all seems kind of tied in together, a chicken and egg situation if you will)

Redway
01-11-2021, 01:24 PM
Seem to have changed me in a positive way. Its hard to explain but I kinda get more mental clarity when I am high? Like, stuff I know deep down but try to deny to myself, I deal with mentally and become better and less stressed for it? And that spills out into the rest of my life too. One night like this can make permanent changes. Its odd. As really you would expect the effects to wear off as the drug does but it doesn't for me seemingly. That said, drugs have helped my pain issues massively also, so that helps. Maybe they are tied in together? Who knows.

I know not to cane it too much though, else the positive effects could change.

Yeah, cannabis in all forms is great for pain relief. The current propaganda would have you believe that the only good cannabis extract worth talking about is CBD because it has medicinal value but doesn’t get you high (because the government still sees getting high on pot as a rabbit hole akin to demoniac possession even though worse things happen involving alcohol every day). THC on its own (the part of the cannabis plant that does get you high/stoned) has medicinal properties that CBD alone doesn’t (treating PTSD for one).

As far as the weed thing goes I just find it funny that a drug which even in its most unregulated street form hasn’t ever killed a soul (not directly anyhow) remains illegal whereas something that’s as taxed and legally regulated as alcohol is probably the most dangerous of them all after the obvious hard drugs (not that there’s anything wrong with drinking in moderation). Can you imagine how many more people would die from poisoning if we lived in a prohibitory-esque era and people had to buy off the black market every time?

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 01:26 PM
Yeah, cannabis in all forms is great for pain relief. The current propaganda would have you believe that the only good cannabis extract worth talking about is CBD because it has medicinal value but doesn’t get you high (because the government still sees getting high on pot as a rabbit hole akin to demoniac possession even though worse things happen involving alcohol every day). THC on its own (the part of the cannabis plant that does get you high/stoned) has medicinal properties that CBD alone doesn’t (treating PTSD for one).

As far as the weed thing goes I just find it funny that a drug which even in its most unregulated street form hasn’t ever killed a soul (not directly anyhow) whereas something that’s as taxed and legally regulated as alcohol is probably the most dangerous of them all after the obvious hard drugs (not that there’s anything wrong with drinking in moderation). Can you imagine how many more people would die from poisoning if we lived in a prohibitory-esque era and people had to buy off the black market every time?

Oh for sure. I find societys obsession with alcohol while looking down on other, often safer forms of drug, kind of bizarre.

Redway
01-11-2021, 01:27 PM
You lot make me laugh with drugs
They just interfere with your brain,the idea that you are a better more confident person while on them is nonsense

You are the same person
It’s like going out and not drinking you see all the idiots making fools of themselves, well that is or was you.

Talking too fast or too slow. You couldn’t dance before drugs you can’t sing before drugs you ain’t some love machine you just silly people thinking you can



In every case you look ridiculous

People have been taking drugs in different forms for thousands of years. It might not be your game but I’d rather live in a nation full of stoners than borderline alcoholics. Because the truth of the situation is that alcohol is far more dangerous than marijuana and that’s not something that can be denied.

Tell me which is worse between a drug which at worst (and only in its unregulated form with not enough CBD to mediate the psychoactive effects) triggers a latent schizophrenia in a very small minority of heavy users (which wouldn’t be an issue if Mary-Jane was legal) but hasn’t led to a single death and something which destroys millions of people’s insides and kills them every single day. How many people do you know who get high and start stripping and jumping on cars in the middle of the road?

user104658
01-11-2021, 01:28 PM
As far as the weed thing goes I just find it funny that a drug which even in its most unregulated street form hasn’t ever killed a soul (not directly anyhow) whereas something that’s as taxed and legally regulated as alcohol is probably the most dangerous of them all after the obvious hard drugs (not that there’s anything wrong with drinking in moderation). Can you imagine how many more people would die from poisoning if we lived in a prohibitory-esque era and people had to buy off the black market every time?

I definitely won't argue with that, for one alcohol alone killed my mum (she'd never have touched any other drug, but 15 years of wine was enough) and also my wife worked in addictions when she first qualified. Heroin (usually combined with benzos, but TBH it's rare for anyone to be abusing one without the other, they just go hand in hand) is by far the #1 problem for addiction services... but right after that is alcohol at #2. No other drug even comes close after that. Plus of course, most people who have addictions to other drugs (heroin included) have alcohol problems as well.

Niamh.
01-11-2021, 01:31 PM
I read that too. Its used (or was used) somewhere for marriage therapy also as it lets people open up more than they otherwise would. You lose your filter. So everything comes out. Oddly, I seem to have now kinda permanently lost my filter with certain people (and even situations, I suddenly have no issue dancing in public, which I never thought I would say) and its made everything much better?! Its so so hard to explain but I really feel like I am changed for the better now and everything is so much easier.

Not encouraging anyone to take drugs by any stretch of the imagination however I cannot deny my experience tbh.

(Also maybe relevant, I had LOADS of life changes at the same time as this. So its possible the drugs only contributed slightly, or not at all. But it all seems kind of tied in together, a chicken and egg situation if you will)

Yeah was going to say that you did have other huge life changes that will have a big positive effect on you too

Redway
01-11-2021, 01:32 PM
Sorry to hear about your mum, TS.

Redway
01-11-2021, 01:35 PM
No. Not done crack either :p

Mind, apparently diamorphine is 'clean heroin' so I have tried that in labour but not outside of that.

Fair game. :)

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 01:38 PM
You lot make me laugh with drugs
They just interfere with your brain,the idea that you are a better more confident person while on them is nonsense

You are the same person
It’s like going out and not drinking you see all the idiots making fools of themselves, well that is or was you.

Talking too fast or too slow. You couldn’t dance before drugs you can’t sing before drugs you ain’t some love machine you just silly people thinking you can



In every case you look ridiculous

Maybe. But we feel good while doing it.

And its a case of perspective really. Some will think it looks ridiculous, others will have their day brightened by someone behaving in a slightly twat like manner.

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 01:40 PM
Yeah was going to say that you did have other huge life changes that will have a big positive effect on you too

It seems to all mesh together into one when I try to figure out what actually triggered the changes, or if the changes were triggered by something I did. I have came to the conclusion that it was all a perfect storm of things which all interact and thats responsible. Lucky really, as if it was that perfect storm, then one thing differently could have made things turn out not so good.

Redway
01-11-2021, 01:42 PM
I took a lot of drugs in my younger years and I do think they changed me...quite a lot. I was the typical raver....out all weekend and off my face from friday to Sunday. Spent the week recovering to do it all again. After I decided to calm it down a bit, my confidence was massively affected. I was always quite shy but without the effects of the drugs to help me, I became painfully shy and had no confidence. I know a lot of people like that. Took ages to build my confidence back up without that crux. We all used to go to a club and then back to various places afterwards and everyone knew and loved everyone etc etc.....we all decided to meet up once.midweek on a carpark....without the pills and whizz, everyone just sat in their cars smoking weed and nodding at each other.

I don't regret any of it but they did change me.

Mind if I ask if you’re open to experimenting with cannabis again?

thesheriff443
01-11-2021, 01:43 PM
Maybe. But we feel good while doing it.

And its a case of perspective really. Some will think it looks ridiculous, others will have their day brightened by someone behaving in a slightly twat like manner.

Having to use drugs in any capacity means there is something wrong in your life.

You are all part of the problem

bots
01-11-2021, 01:44 PM
It seems to all mesh together into one when I try to figure out what actually triggered the changes, or if the changes were triggered by something I did. I have came to the conclusion that it was all a perfect storm of things which all interact and thats responsible. Lucky really, as if it was that perfect storm, then one thing differently could have made things turn out not so good.

it all changed after you received the nanobots .... cue Alf :hehe:

Niamh.
01-11-2021, 01:46 PM
it all changed after you received the nanobots .... cue Alf :hehe:

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/918626_010d5ec8bbc245df99989be4670493a9~mv2.gif

AnnieK
01-11-2021, 01:51 PM
Mind if I ask if you’re open to experimenting with cannabis again?

I am not adverse. I still know a lot of people who smoke weed but since I quit smoking cigarettes, the idea of smoking anything doesn't have the same appeal. I have had the odd joint but it floors me now and last time I smoked, I had a whitey and that put me right off :laugh:

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 01:52 PM
Having to use drugs in any capacity means there is something wrong in your life.

You are all part of the problem

Thats fine by me :D Live and let live tbh

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 01:52 PM
it all changed after you received the nanobots .... cue Alf :hehe:

:hehe:

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 01:54 PM
I am not adverse. I still know a lot of people who smoke weed but since I quit smoking cigarettes, the idea of smoking anything doesn't have the same appeal. I have had the odd joint but it floors me now and last time I smoked, I had a whitey and that put me right off :laugh:

Yes I hated weed until quite recently because I had a very bad experience with it when younger. Assumed it would always be like that. It wasn't. But it could have been. Glad it wasn't :D

Redway
01-11-2021, 01:56 PM
Having to use drugs in any capacity means there is something wrong in your life.

You are all part of the problem

Looking down on people who take drugs for spiritual, recreational and inner-healing purposes is the problem, really.

We’re talking about things from alcohol to psychedelics, really. No one on this site is inserting needles in some dodgy alley every evening.

Once you let go of the idea that not everything that’s illegal should be (and that certain legal substances do way more damage), you start to see illicit substances in a somewhat different light. Especially considering their historical ubiquity of usage all over the flipping world.

No one’s advocating for anyone reading this thread innocently to go and start snorting lines and kushing-up like there’s no tomorrow but as people who’ve been through life and seen a few things we’re allowed to talk about our experiences. If you’ve got nothing to contribute because you’re so touchy about drugs this thread probably isn’t for you.

Redway
01-11-2021, 02:00 PM
I am not adverse. I still know a lot of people who smoke weed but since I quit smoking cigarettes, the idea of smoking anything doesn't have the same appeal. I have had the odd joint but it floors me now and last time I smoked, I had a whitey and that put me right off :laugh:

I’d recommend edibles in that case but they’re about 10 times more potent than bud/flower so I guess it just depends on how much tolerance you have for cannabis per se (ignoring the fact that smoking is the most standard way of taking it). Do you think you could still handle something resembling a mild psychedelic trip (that’s what edibles tend to feel like - the mental part of edible highs seem to resemble low-key acid trips more than anything else, in as much as they give you a very strong in-da-couch/stoner feeling in the body) after giving it all up?

hijaxers
01-11-2021, 02:04 PM
Most of mine were back in the days of Glasonbury and other raves, wouldn't want to take most these days and have not partaken in many for years.

thesheriff443
01-11-2021, 02:26 PM
The idea that one addicts addiction depending on what they are taking is better than another is a joke.

There is no such thing as a friendly drug dealer, anything to do with drugs will destroy lives in the end .

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 02:28 PM
Life destroys life in one way or another anyway.

Alf
01-11-2021, 02:31 PM
A lot of places of work now do random drug tests (only for the little people of course) so now people are risking their jobs by partaking.

They should really be doing drink and drug tests in Parliament, they'd get plenty of positive results in there.

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 02:36 PM
A lot of places of work now do random drug tests (only for the little people of course) so now people are risking their jobs by partaking.

They should really be doing drink and drug tests in Parliament, they'd get plenty of positive results in there.

Sounds about right. To both.

Redway
01-11-2021, 02:37 PM
The idea that one addicts addiction depending on what they are taking is better than another is a joke.

There is no such thing as a friendly drug dealer, anything to do with drugs will destroy lives in the end .

1. Not all, or even the slight majority of, people who use drugs recreationally (and otherwise) end up being addicts. Some people become dependent but for the majority drugs are just there to help people tap into different realms of thought and spirituality, something that doesn’t happen when you’re sober or drunk.

2. My plugs are pretty friendly and that’s the case for most people I know. You seem to have a very dated understanding of how drug-buyer interaction works. It’s not always a case of meeting a hardened criminal on a darkened alleyway at 2 in the morning.

3. Weed has never killed anyone. Alcohol, tobacco and prescribed medication (with bad side-effects) have killed loads and loads over the years. What have you got to say for all that?

4. No one gets out of here alive anyway so it is what it is. Some people are here for a good time, not a protracted one. And either way most people who do ‘reasonable’ drugs won’t fatally overdose.

Redway
01-11-2021, 02:38 PM
Sounds about right. To both.

Mr Johnson’s definitely privy to a few lines on the weekend. It’s the only explanation for him being the way he is.

Alf
01-11-2021, 02:41 PM
Mr Johnson’s definitely privy to a few lines on the weekend. It’s the only explanation for him being the way he is.The hours a Prime minister has to work, it goes with out saying that they need a little pick-me-up from time to time.

bots
01-11-2021, 02:56 PM
there is a certain tribalism associated with drug taking that i find pretty weird. Like you are not a cool kid if you don't take drugs, and it's even evident in this thread. Most if not all forms of drug taking are directly influenced by peer pressure. Without that peer pressure their wouldn't be half the drug taking that there is today

Alf
01-11-2021, 03:26 PM
there is a certain tribalism associated with drug taking that i find pretty weird. Like you are not a cool kid if you don't take drugs, and it's even evident in this thread. Most if not all forms of drug taking are directly influenced by peer pressure. Without that peer pressure their wouldn't be half the drug taking that there is todayHuman beings are tribal by nature, so there would be.

Redway
01-11-2021, 03:53 PM
there is a certain tribalism associated with drug taking that i find pretty weird. Like you are not a cool kid if you don't take drugs, and it's even evident in this thread. Most if not all forms of drug taking are directly influenced by peer pressure. Without that peer pressure their wouldn't be half the drug taking that there is today

Most people I know these days who smoke weed (seasoned adults, not teenagers) do it because they know it’s good for them. Beyond the high-school playground there’s a whole world of recreational and spiritual drug use which fully-aware and non-impressionable adults venture into and that’s how it’s been since the dawn of time. The fact that a few impressionable teenagers let themselves be talked into experimenting [and at that age cohort that’s something that goes for fashion, sexual experiences, alcohol and banging A.C.s (I doubt you know what that last bit means but that’s not my problem) in at least equal measure] doesn’t mean that more mature people haven’t used drugs solely of their own accord for spiritual and recreational reasons and reaped the benefits from their experiences.

The fact that the current drug situation is political and in the face of official legality is neither here nor there. Drugs weren’t always illegal and homosexuality and interracial marriage weren’t always legal. The legality (or lack thereof) of something at one particular time doesn’t hold space for personal experiences and it’s not always done in the better interests of the people. The fact (that I keep bringing up) remains that alcohol and tobacco (the first of which was even illegal in certain parts of the world not-too-long ago) are far more detrimental to overall health than half of the illegal drugs (and most especially in the case of weed and mushrooms) but people talk about getting wasted every weekend or how they only socially smoke left, right and centre without people shutting them down and reminding them of the dangers of drinking and smoking.

No-one’s insinuating that people who don’t touch drugs are corny and uncool. It’s more a case of literally one or two staunch anti-drugs lobbyists coming at people with intolerance and patronising tones just because they’re open to experimenting with certain substances.

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 04:11 PM
The hours a Prime minister has to work, it goes with out saying that they need a little pick-me-up from time to time.

Well yes I get that tbh. Used to say it about singers and such in concert. Like **** are many of them doing it naturally.

Vicky.
01-11-2021, 04:13 PM
there is a certain tribalism associated with drug taking that i find pretty weird. Like you are not a cool kid if you don't take drugs, and it's even evident in this thread. Most if not all forms of drug taking are directly influenced by peer pressure. Without that peer pressure their wouldn't be half the drug taking that there is today

I definitely wouldnt say its not 'cool' to not take drugs. Some might, but thats a weird way to think. Different strokes for different folks really.

Crimson Dynamo
01-11-2021, 04:19 PM
there is a certain tribalism associated with drug taking that i find pretty weird. Like you are not a cool kid if you don't take drugs, and it's even evident in this thread. Most if not all forms of drug taking are directly influenced by peer pressure. Without that peer pressure their wouldn't be half the drug taking that there is today

too scared eh?

come on bots we all know you were the kid in full school uniform with the violin in a case whist the cool kids were smoking Embassy Regal in the bike sheds

:joker:

AnnieK
01-11-2021, 04:31 PM
I think there is possibly an element of peer pressure in a way. I was not "pressurised" into taking anything, I didn't think I was cooler than friends who didn't....as Vicky said its different strokes for different folks. I had friends who liked rock music and would go to the pub, drink loads of strong lager and end the night with a fight and kebab. That wasn't for me. I liked dance music, so spent my nights with 5000 liked minded people at a warehouse rave. No alcohol, never saw a fight but felt the love. Corny as that sounds.

It was all artificial though and that's what stopped me. After a couple of years I knew the majority of people, hugged them all, danced with them all etc. At the end of one night, someone collapsed after taking an E.....everyone, me included more or less stepped over them in the rush to get on to the next part of the night. When I thought about it later, I realised that everyone in that club who I had spent every weekend with for months would have stepped over me too.

Now, I'm a bit more aware of my own mortality and in all honesty probably a bit scared :laugh:
Plus there was a couple who used to go to the club with us who were in their 40s......we all thought they were Sooooo old, I don't want to be that person now :laugh:

bots
01-11-2021, 05:13 PM
too scared eh?

come on bots we all know you were the kid in full school uniform with the violin in a case whist the cool kids were smoking Embassy Regal in the bike sheds

:joker:

i got suspended for a week for smoking at school ..... so bang goes that theory :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
01-11-2021, 05:42 PM
i got suspended for a week for smoking at school ..... so bang goes that theory :laugh:

BOTS and Parmy skip French..

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michael21
02-11-2021, 12:22 PM
Alcohol
Tobacco
Marijuana
Ketamine
Magic mushrooms

I’m looking to try D.M.T. in particular one day but I’m too paranoid about having a bad trip. At least mushrooms wear off after a few hours. Edibles and other psychedelics go on for hours and hours and when you’re having an angsty trip that doesn’t make for much fun. I don’t get bad times like that on edibles anymore (I’ve become accustomed to the process of microdosing) but I feel like other psychedelics once you take enough to get you high at all really don’t have any off-button.

Anyone on here had any experience with D.M.T./L.S.D.?


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