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Alf
04-11-2021, 08:28 PM
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Crimson Dynamo
04-11-2021, 08:40 PM
Woke madness
Vile

Mystic Mock
04-11-2021, 09:19 PM
They'd be great to wear in the Summer.

Beso
04-11-2021, 09:40 PM
They should all wander in with knickers and bows..give whatever teacher thought this up a thrill.

Beso
04-11-2021, 09:45 PM
Mind you.....


Me and 3 mates did do highland dancing in P7, in the hope of a chance of a snog with Gillian, Jackie, nicola or tracey on the bus that would have went to the Scottish school highland dancing championships, if we had been good enough.


We didnt make it due to Gillian, Jackie, Nicola and Tracey allowing a little bit more than a snog during practice evenings.

Oliver_W
04-11-2021, 09:49 PM
Don't loads of men in Scotland wear skirts anyway?

rusticgal
04-11-2021, 09:52 PM
I understand a stance in Spain in support of someone who was expelled for wearing a skirt….but is this really necessary?

Glenn.
04-11-2021, 10:09 PM
Don't loads of men in Scotland wear skirts anyway?

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Anyone who finds a problem with this is weird. Anyone that has any problem with what other people/strangers wear is weird.

Redway
04-11-2021, 10:15 PM
Woke madness
Vile

Men have been wearing skirts for thousands of years (including your fellow Scots). What’s the problem?

Alf
04-11-2021, 11:36 PM
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Anyone who finds a problem with this is weird. Anyone that has any problem with what other people/strangers wear is weird.Not a crime to be weird.

Anybody who has a problem with people being weird is?

rusticgal
04-11-2021, 11:42 PM
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Anyone who finds a problem with this is weird. Anyone that has any problem with what other people/strangers wear is weird.


Can’t you express an opinion without calling people weird for not having the same opinion as you?….

Alf
05-11-2021, 06:06 AM
Don't loads of men in Scotland wear skirts anyway?No! Some wear Kilts, not School skirts.

Alf
05-11-2021, 06:56 AM
Men have been wearing skirts for thousands of years (including your fellow Scots). What’s the problem?The skirt isn't the problem, it's the social engineering behind it that some people see as the problem.

Toy Soldier
05-11-2021, 07:16 AM
They should be able to wear whatever they want so long as it falls within uniform policy. That’s how it is in most schools now surely - girls are allowed to wear trousers, no one is forced to wear a skirt. On that note, yes boys should be ALLOWED to wear a skirt if they want and it’s part of the uniform (for either).

Alf
05-11-2021, 07:30 AM
They should be able to wear whatever they want so long as it falls within uniform policy. That’s how it is in most schools now surely - girls are allowed to wear trousers, no one is forced to wear a skirt. On that note, yes boys should be ALLOWED to wear a skirt if they want and it’s part of the uniform (for either).Well from the picture and story, they are allowed to wear it. I don't think anyone has said they shouldn't be allowed. But as Parmy says, the teacher has just made this up. What if some teacher's don't want to draw the line at just seeing young boys in traditional schoolgirl skirts, what if they want to push it even more?

Nicky91
05-11-2021, 07:33 AM
Don't loads of men in Scotland wear skirts anyway?

was about to ask the same thing :laugh:


i thought this was very traditional in Scotland

Elliot
05-11-2021, 07:56 AM
Don't loads of men in Scotland wear skirts anyway?

Was about to say this lol nobody sees an issue with kilts

Elliot
05-11-2021, 07:57 AM
The skirt isn't the problem, it's the social engineering behind it that some people see as the problem.

The only social engineering that’s happened is coding certain items of clothing as for boys or for girls

Alf
05-11-2021, 08:14 AM
The only social engineering that’s happened is coding certain items of clothing as for boys or for girlsThe proof will be in the future, when the masculine Russian men invade. Thankfully, for the time being, your ideas are still in a very, very small minority, but they are growing.

Toy Soldier
05-11-2021, 08:16 AM
The skirt isn't the problem, it's the social engineering behind it that some people see as the problem.

GIrls having one bit of fabric that goes round the middle and boys having two long tubes of fabric that go down each leg is 100% social conditioning though. It's completely devoid of meaning other than the meaning applied to it by the observer and their societal norms. That's pretty much the definition of social engineering. "But that social engineering happened centuries ago!" doesn't really have any bearing on it either; there's nothing that makes "old" societal norms inherently better than "new" ones.

Toy Soldier
05-11-2021, 08:18 AM
The proof will be in the future, when the masculine Russian men invade. Thankfully, for the time being, your ideas are still in a very, very small minority, but they are growing.

Modern war is fought and won with technology and money Alf, if anything if we want to win wars, we want a country full of programming and robotics geeks who are really good at flight simulators.

Big Manly Russian Men don't tend to fare particularly well against drones that can turn them into red mist before they've even heard it coming.

Glenn.
05-11-2021, 12:59 PM
Not a crime to be weird.

Anybody who has a problem with people being weird is?

Can’t you express an opinion without calling people weird for not having the same opinion as you?….

People should be able to wear what they like no? I mean that’s kinda how the world works. What is it about this that doesn’t sit right with you? Why is it wrong?

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2021, 01:02 PM
There is a very good reason for school uniform and rules at school

same applies to make-up and jewelry

follow the rules and learn

Glenn.
05-11-2021, 01:04 PM
There is a very good reason for school uniform and rules at school

same applies to make-up and jewelry

follow the rules and learn

Elaborate on the rules for the group

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2021, 01:10 PM
elaborate on the rules for the group

i think every member has been to school

Glenn.
05-11-2021, 01:15 PM
Bless you. You tried

Vicky.
05-11-2021, 01:30 PM
Asking them to wear skirts is not promoting equality unless they also ask the girls to do so? Otherwise the option should be given, not them told to do it? That would be equality surely..

Unless I am misunderstanding.

rusticgal
05-11-2021, 02:04 PM
People should be able to wear what they like no?


I never said they couldn't...if a boy wants to wear a skirt then let him wear a skirt. However making primary school boys wear a skirt to promote equality is wrong. Asking them to do something they might feel uncomfortable doing but feeling compelled to do so because of peer pressure is unacceptable imo.

Glenn.
05-11-2021, 02:52 PM
They wasn’t ‘made’ to do anything.

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2021, 03:00 PM
You would think after covid they would be buckling down to actual schoolwork?

Beso
05-11-2021, 03:07 PM
People should be able to wear what they like no? I mean that’s kinda how the world works. What is it about this that doesn’t sit right with you? Why is it wrong?

It's wrong cause it's turning a bunch of boys into a bunch of Jessie's.

rusticgal
05-11-2021, 04:31 PM
They wasn’t ‘made’ to do anything.


When a teacher suggests to a class or a year or the whole school that this is what they are doing...PRIMARY aged school kids are not going to refuse..they will feel peer pressure from friends and other teachers and feel pressured into doing something they possibly dont feel comfortable with. These are Primary school children...not senior school pupils that have developed an opinion on such matters.

Thats what is wrong...

Glenn.
05-11-2021, 04:36 PM
When a teacher suggests to a class or a year or the whole school that this is what they are doing...PRIMARY aged school kids are not going to refuse..they will feel peer pressure from friends and other teachers and feel pressured into doing something they possibly dont feel comfortable with. These are Primary school children...not senior school pupils that have developed an opinion on such matters.

Thats what is wrong...

But again, nobody was made to to it.

Alf
05-11-2021, 04:37 PM
People should be able to wear what they like no? I mean that’s kinda how the world works. What is it about this that doesn’t sit right with you? Why is it wrong?Where has anybody said they can't? Are you seeing things that don't exist?

Other people should be able to criticise things if they like, that pleasure shouldn't be just for you.

Glenn.
05-11-2021, 04:38 PM
It's wrong cause it's turning a bunch of boys into a bunch of Jessie's.

As someone who has major masculinity issues I can see why you would say that. Bless.

Glenn.
05-11-2021, 04:42 PM
Where has anybody said they can't? Are you seeing things that don't exist?

Other people should be able to criticise things if they like, that pleasure shouldn't be just for you.





Woke madness
Vile

I understand a stance in Spain in support of someone who was expelled for wearing a skirt….but is this really necessary?

The proof will be in the future, when the masculine Russian men invade. Thankfully, for the time being, your ideas are still in a very, very small minority, but they are growing.

There is a very good reason for school uniform and rules at school

same applies to make-up and jewelry

follow the rules and learn

I never said they couldn't...if a boy wants to wear a skirt then let him wear a skirt. However making primary school boys wear a skirt to promote equality is wrong. Asking them to do something they might feel uncomfortable doing but feeling compelled to do so because of peer pressure is unacceptable imo.

It's wrong cause it's turning a bunch of boys into a bunch of Jessie's.


It’s called reading between the lines Alf. It clearly is a problem for some people which it shouldn’t be.

bots
05-11-2021, 04:48 PM
If boys and girls were treated equally in schools in everything else i could understand it, but they are not

AnnieK
05-11-2021, 05:04 PM
When a teacher suggests to a class or a year or the whole school that this is what they are doing...PRIMARY aged school kids are not going to refuse..they will feel peer pressure from friends and other teachers and feel pressured into doing something they possibly dont feel comfortable with. These are Primary school children...not senior school pupils that have developed an opinion on such matters.

Thats what is wrong...

Surely at Primary age the parents would be consulted? My son's school would seek permission. Plus where have these skirts come from? I couldn't send my kid to school in a skirt that would fit him so he wouldn't be taking part.

Sounds like just a PR stunt to me

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2021, 05:34 PM
It’s called reading between the lines Alf. It clearly is a problem for some people which it shouldn’t be.

please try to debate without member abuse

it really diminishes any point you are trying to make

:shrug:

rusticgal
05-11-2021, 05:58 PM
Surely at Primary age the parents would be consulted? My son's school would seek permission. Plus where have these skirts come from? I couldn't send my kid to school in a skirt that would fit him so he wouldn't be taking part.

Sounds like just a PR stunt to me

No doubt but seeking permission means nothing to a child of 10/11 who will not want to be any different to his friends or against a stance requested by a teacher….unless he is a child with a strong character he is going to go along with it whether he likes it or not. These are young children and personally I think they shouldn’t be put in this position…

rusticgal
05-11-2021, 06:09 PM
But again, nobody was made to to it.



You are completely missing my point….try imagining yourself as a young 10/11 year old…impressionable and not wanting to be seen as the odd one out by not wearing a skirt…but suppressing the embarrassment of wearing a skirt commonly worn by girls for the sake of making a statement suggested by your Teacher….who you have been told to learn from and respect.

If they were 14-16 they would be a little more mature and able to make that decision without influence…

Toy Soldier
05-11-2021, 06:51 PM
the embarrassment of wearing a skirt commonly worn by girls

Why is wearing something “commonly worn by girls” inherently embarrassing?

That’s sort of the point and also the question you should ask yourself.

Liam-
05-11-2021, 06:53 PM
Why are we still assigning genders to pieces of fabric?

Alf
05-11-2021, 06:56 PM
Why are we still assigning genders to pieces of fabric?Why not? What's so important that you feel that you must change the normal?

Toy Soldier
05-11-2021, 07:03 PM
Why are we still assigning genders to pieces of fabric?


See though the issue here is, if you don’t buy into gender stereotyping, then you also can’t buy into gender fluidity, non-binary or even trans gender ideologies. All of them are 100% reliant on believing that stereotypically gendered roles, styles and norms are valid. Without them the concepts are largely meaningless. I find that the LGBTQ community ties itself in logical knots with this.

Crimson Dynamo
05-11-2021, 07:10 PM
Why not? What's so important that you feel that you must change the normal?

its the same argument as

"its just men chasing around a leather sphere filled with air"

in other words

bolloxio

Beso
05-11-2021, 11:14 PM
You are completely missing my point….try imagining yourself as a young 10/11 year old…impressionable and not wanting to be seen as the odd one out by not wearing a skirt…but suppressing the embarrassment of wearing a skirt commonly worn by girls for the sake of making a statement suggested by your Teacher….who you have been told to learn from and respect.

If they were 14-16 they would be a little more mature and able to make that decision without influence…

Or imagine the embarrassment and mental pain in the young boy suppressing his desire to wear a dress, his young mind suddenly scrambled further by all the cool kids wearing what he wants to, but is to shy to


Carrie vibes..

Beso
05-11-2021, 11:16 PM
In a nutshell...

People who want all this, dont give 2 flying ****s about the feelings of the people in the same situation, who dont want their situation highlighted.

Insulate britain vibes.

Glenn.
05-11-2021, 11:17 PM
please try to debate without member abuse

it really diminishes any point you are trying to make

:shrug:

Please stop trying to mod me because you have zero point to make

Beso
05-11-2021, 11:18 PM
Please stop trying to mod me because you have zero point to make

You ain't exactly pointing any points on the subject yourself.:shrug:

Beso
05-11-2021, 11:19 PM
See though the issue here is, if you don’t buy into gender stereotyping, then you also can’t buy into gender fluidity, non-binary or even trans gender ideologies. All of them are 100% reliant on believing that stereotypically gendered roles, styles and norms are valid. Without them the concepts are largely meaningless. I find that the LGBTQ community ties itself in logical knots with this.

They have had their time TS, the world is aware..


Problem is they just cant shut up, and that will only bring negative press.

Glenn.
05-11-2021, 11:24 PM
You ain't exactly pointing any points on the subject yourself.:shrug:


My point couldn’t be any clearer. It’s not my fault people are getting pissy over what clothes kids should wear.

Beso
05-11-2021, 11:27 PM
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Anyone who finds a problem with this is weird. Anyone that has any problem with what other people/strangers wear is weird.

The worlds weird and you're not.

Beso
05-11-2021, 11:29 PM
My point couldn’t be any clearer. It’s not my fault people are getting pissy over what clothes kids should wear.

Have you never judged a fat kid wearing skinny Jean's, or a kid who shouldnt be wearing ski pants with her belly.

Beso
05-11-2021, 11:39 PM
People should be able to wear what they like no? I mean that’s kinda how the world works. What is it about this that doesn’t sit right with you? Why is it wrong?

It's a school.

rusticgal
06-11-2021, 12:12 AM
Why is wearing something “commonly worn by girls” inherently embarrassing?

That’s sort of the point and also the question you should ask yourself.


Because skirts ARE commonly worn by girls….and many boys would not feel comfortable about wearing one…
I am not saying it’s wrong for boys to wear skirts…everyone should be able to dress as they please. Stop trying to twist my words…the fact is many boys would find it embarrassing :shrug:….

Cherie
06-11-2021, 07:12 AM
Asking them to wear skirts is not promoting equality unless they also ask the girls to do so? Otherwise the option should be given, not them told to do it? That would be equality surely..

Unless I am misunderstanding.

Agree, I have no idea how everyone being told to wear a skirt is promoting equality...and your point about being given the option and they choosing to do it themselves is very valid

Toy Soldier
06-11-2021, 09:18 AM
Because skirts ARE commonly worn by girls….and many boys would not feel comfortable about wearing one…
I am not saying it’s wrong for boys to wear skirts…everyone should be able to dress as they please. Stop trying to twist my words…the fact is many boys would find it embarrassing :shrug:….


Because to many boys, “being girly” is shameful and embarrassing. That’s something that needs to be confronted. I’m not saying this is necessarily the best way to do that, but at some point society needs to tackle the massive problem of boys (and men) finding the very thought of being likened to a female “embarrassing”.

bots
06-11-2021, 09:25 AM
Because to many boys, “being girly” is shameful and embarrassing. That’s something that needs to be confronted. I’m not saying this is necessarily the best way to do that, but at some point society needs to tackle the massive problem of boys (and men) finding the very thought of being likened to a female “embarrassing”.

why should they, if someone finds wearing something embarrassing to wear, why should they be indoctrinated into finding it acceptable? That is completely ludicrous. If someone wants to wear something ... that's fair enough, but there should never be any pressure put on someone to wear something they are completely uncomfortable with which seems to be what you are suggesting

Toy Soldier
06-11-2021, 10:11 AM
why should they, if someone finds wearing something embarrassing to wear, why should they be indoctrinated into finding it acceptable? That is completely ludicrous. If someone wants to wear something ... that's fair enough, but there should never be any pressure put on someone to wear something they are completely uncomfortable with which seems to be what you are suggesting


I didn’t say anything of the sort; people should wear whatever they want (or in a school/workplace, the uniform prescribed) what I said was, if people’s REASON for not wearing a certain piece of clothing is that it’s “too girly” and the further reason for that being an issue isn’t “and that’s not my style”, but “and there’s something inherently embarrassing about boys doing girl-stuff”, then those people need to take a look at their reasoning because almost certainly on either a conscious or subconscious level, they are equating “female” with “lesser”.

Glenn.
06-11-2021, 10:11 AM
Have you never judged a fat kid wearing skinny Jean's, or a kid who shouldnt be wearing ski pants with her belly.

No I’m not a bully

bots
06-11-2021, 10:15 AM
I didn’t say anything of the sort; people should wear whatever they want (or in a school/workplace, the uniform prescribed) what I said was, if people’s REASON for not wearing a certain piece of clothing is that it’s “too girly” and the further reason for that being an issue isn’t “and that’s not my style”, but “and there’s something inherently embarrassing about boys doing girl-stuff”, then those people need to take a look at their reasoning because almost certainly on either a conscious or subconscious level, they are equating “female” with “lesser”.

why is one reason more valid than another for not wearing something .... its green ... dont want to wear it, it shows off my hairy legs ... i don't want to wear it ..... ANY reason for not wanting to wear something is valid

And what's more, no one has to justify why they dont want to wear something to anyone

rusticgal
06-11-2021, 11:00 AM
Because to many boys, “being girly” is shameful and embarrassing. That’s something that needs to be confronted. I’m not saying this is necessarily the best way to do that, but at some point society needs to tackle the massive problem of boys (and men) finding the very thought of being likened to a female “embarrassing”.


Embarrassing yes...but not shameful.

Toy Soldier
06-11-2021, 11:04 AM
why is one reason more valid than another for not wearing something .... its green ... dont want to wear it, it shows off my hairy legs ... i don't want to wear it ..... ANY reason for not wanting to wear something is valid

And what's more, no one has to justify why they dont want to wear something to anyone


Again this is only relevant if anyone is being forced to do anything, complete straw man. Where has there been any siggestion or indication of anyone being forced to do something they don’t want to do?

Toy Soldier
06-11-2021, 11:05 AM
Embarrassing yes...but not shameful.


Are girls embarrassed to wear trousers or any other “boy clothes”? (As the dad of two girls I’d have to say a) no they aren’t and b) “boy clothes” don’t exist)

bots
06-11-2021, 11:17 AM
Again this is only relevant if anyone is being forced to do anything, complete straw man. Where has there been any siggestion or indication of anyone being forced to do something they don’t want to do?

you have basically been championing indoctrinating people into wearing clothes that they wouldn't want to wear throughout this thread so there is plenty evidence here alone

rusticgal
06-11-2021, 11:34 AM
I didn’t say anything of the sort; people should wear whatever they want (or in a school/workplace, the uniform prescribed) what I said was, if people’s REASON for not wearing a certain piece of clothing is that it’s “too girly” and the further reason for that being an issue isn’t “and that’s not my style”, but “and there’s something inherently embarrassing about boys doing girl-stuff”, then those people need to take a look at their reasoning because almost certainly on either a conscious or subconscious level, they are equating “female” with “lesser”.


So what if a boy finds 'girly stuff' embarrassing???....if its ok for boys to wear skirts if they choose to because thats how they feel comfortable...its equally ok for boys not to for the very same reason...

rusticgal
06-11-2021, 11:39 AM
Are girls embarrassed to wear trousers or any other “boy clothes”? (As the dad of two girls I’d have to say a) no they aren’t and b) “boy clothes” don’t exist)


There are a lot of girly girls out there that wouldnt be seen dead in trousers....not because they are embarrassed but because they choose not to.
Boys clothes do exist....have you not seen clothes designed for girls called 'boyfriend jeans' 'boyfriend top'....:laugh:

Toy Soldier
06-11-2021, 02:28 PM
you have basically been championing indoctrinating people into wearing clothes that they wouldn't want to wear throughout this thread

Quote me or you’re full of **** - I have not.

Toy Soldier
06-11-2021, 02:29 PM
There are a lot of girly girls out there that wouldnt be seen dead in trousers....not because they are embarrassed but because they choose not to.

Exactly. “Not because they’re embarrassed”


Boys clothes do exist....have you not seen clothes designed for girls called 'boyfriend jeans' 'boyfriend top'....:laugh:

Wow, well I can’t argue with that logic :joker:

rusticgal
06-11-2021, 02:39 PM
Exactly. “Not because they’re embarrassed”



Wow, well I can’t argue with that logic :joker:



Nothing wrong with them feeling embarrassed though....I dont get your problem with someone feeling embarrassed wearing a certain item of clothing...:shrug:

Toy Soldier
06-11-2021, 02:59 PM
Nothing wrong with them feeling embarrassed though....I dont get your problem with someone feeling embarrassed wearing a certain item of clothing...:shrug:

They're embarrassed because it's girly, and to boys, anything girly is embarrassing/shameful as being "manly" or "masculine" is viewed as being inherently superior to anything associated with "girliness". It isn't neutral, it's a sociological construct rooted in - or perhaps the very roots of - a default of cultural misogyny.

Alf
06-11-2021, 04:07 PM
Because to many boys, “being girly” is shameful and embarrassing. That’s something that needs to be confronted. I’m not saying this is necessarily the best way to do that, but at some point society needs to tackle the massive problem of boys (and men) finding the very thought of being likened to a female “embarrassing”.Yeah, that's one thing that's bothered me all my life, the fact that girls need to be less feminine and need to be more masculine. We need to raise awareness on this and start pushing this agenda strongly.

Alf
06-11-2021, 04:13 PM
We need to see more women growing beards, this is important for society. We need to force this agenda.

Toy Soldier
06-11-2021, 04:29 PM
Yeah, that's one thing that's bothered me all my life, the fact that girls need to be less feminine and need to be more masculine. We need to raise awareness on this and start pushing this agenda strongly.


People need to start living life with the personality they have, and stop thinking that if they have a certain personality type that doesn’t happen to match the COMPLETELY FABRICATED IDEA of the personality and likes that their sex is “supposed” to have that it means they either need to make an effort to change their personality to fit, or that they are actually the other gender or something in between. Frankly. It’s all ****ing nonsense.

Alf
06-11-2021, 04:37 PM
People need to start living life with the personality they have, and stop thinking that if they have a certain personality type that doesn’t happen to match the COMPLETELY FABRICATED IDEA of the personality and likes that their sex is “supposed” to have that it means they either need to make an effort to change their personality to fit, or that they are actually the other gender or something in between. Frankly. It’s all ****ing nonsense.And teachers should do what they're paid to do, and teach people how to read and write, not take action in fulfilling their personal fantasies.

Alf
06-11-2021, 04:46 PM
People need to start living life with the personality they have, and stop thinking that if they have a certain personality type that doesn’t happen to match the COMPLETELY FABRICATED IDEA of the personality and likes that their sex is “supposed” to have that it means they either need to make an effort to change their personality to fit, or that they are actually the other gender or something in between. Frankly. It’s all ****ing nonsense.My personality is a lazy bastard who would like to spend my all life in bed doing nothing. But I have to go out and work to earn money to live, I don't want to, but I have to. Am I being oppressed? Should I be allowed to live with the personality I have without living on the streets with no food in my belly, or should I just toughen up and accept reality the way it is?

Toy Soldier
06-11-2021, 06:11 PM
accept reality the way it is?


If you’ll read it again, you might see that I’m saying that’s exactly what everyone should do.

Alf
06-11-2021, 06:45 PM
If you’ll read it again, you might see that I’m saying that’s exactly what everyone should do.When it's being socially engineered in the schools/colleges/universities/television/social media/movies/workplaces rather than happening naturally, then that's not reality.

When impressionable people like Harry Styles is given a big platform to promote wearing a dress like it's somehow important news, that's social engineering.

Look boys, Harry Styles is wearing a dress, you can be just like Harry.

Boys are being pressured into conforming, really not good for their mental health.

Alf
06-11-2021, 07:05 PM
What can we do today? How about we do a photo shoot with Harry Styles dressed up in a dress with a bow in his hair. Something for the young boys to look upto and aspire to be like.

Crimson Dynamo
06-11-2021, 07:12 PM
he enables people to feel good about themselves by pretending to be "modern" and "with it" by priasing him

the guy is a dick who has not been able to fulfill what he thought was his potential and now he has to resort to wearing silly clothes

like a youtuber who has to do more and more silly and dangerous stunts to get like

its a race to the bottom

Jordan.
06-11-2021, 07:17 PM
1456270281400467460

Amazing! looks like they had fun with it, more of this :clap1:

Alf
06-11-2021, 07:20 PM
Amazing! looks like they had fun with it, more of this :clap1:You see, it must be pushed "let's have more of this" because naturally, it wouldn't happen.

Jordan.
06-11-2021, 07:24 PM
You see, it must be pushed "let's have more of this" because naturally, it wouldn't happen.

Very true, sadly equality is something that has always needed to be pushed for.

rusticgal
06-11-2021, 11:16 PM
Amazing! looks like they had fun with it, more of this :clap1:

Really….some of them look a little embarrassed IMO…only two of them have a slight grin on their face. They certainly don’t look like they are having FUN…

Beso
06-11-2021, 11:46 PM
People need to start living life with the personality they have, and stop thinking that if they have a certain personality type that doesn’t happen to match the COMPLETELY FABRICATED IDEA of the personality and likes that their sex is “supposed” to have that it means they either need to make an effort to change their personality to fit, or that they are actually the other gender or something in between. Frankly. It’s all ****ing nonsense.


If anyone let's what others think about them effect them, then that's on them, surely?

Beso
06-11-2021, 11:48 PM
Very true, sadly equality is something that has always needed to be pushed for.

I'm sure all those boys feel equal to girls now.:hehe:

Toy Soldier
07-11-2021, 07:20 AM
Really….some of them look a little embarrassed IMO…only two of them have a slight grin on their face. They certainly don’t look like they are having FUN…


And the little darlings must never feel any discomfort, right? I mean, it’s not like embarrassment is something they’re going to feel throughout life and can learn to deal with in healthy ways.

Sounds a bit snowflakey to me. Spare the poor wee boys their blushes :worry:.

None of them were forced. Most of them probably thought it was a good laugh. Some might have been a bit embarrassed. So what?

AnnieK
07-11-2021, 08:04 AM
I asked my 11 year old son about this and he said "sure, I'd do it, its not that much different than wearing shorts". Now, I know that he wouldn't do it just because everyone else was....last year the had a PJ day for Children in Need, all his friends went in in their PJs but he felt daft doing it so refused and went in in trackies. He didn't care that everyone else had PJs on, he wanted to be comfy so went in wearing what he wanted. I think people are underestimating the mind of a 10/11 year old...they can be pretty determined and know their own minds at that age. I think peer pressure starts to play a part the older they get.