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The Duchess of Sussex questioned whether she should call her father "daddy" in a letter and whether it would "pull at the heartstrings" if leaked, the Court of Appeal has heard.
The letter is at the centre of a legal battle over privacy between the duchess and publishers of the Mail on Sunday.
The paper claimed it was written with an awareness it could be made public.
The duchess won a previous court case that found publishing the letter was a misuse of her private information.
In the second day of its appeal, lawyers for the publisher Associated Newspapers challenged the extent to which it was really a "private" letter, sent by Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, to her estranged father Thomas Markle.
Lawyers for Associated Newspapers Limited said that they want to rely on a recent witness statement made by Jason Knauf - who was communications secretary to Meghan and Harry until March 2019 - in their legal bid to overturn the ruling.
The court heard of text messages between the duchess and Mr Knauf about the drafting of the letter, sent in August 2018.
This included whether it should begin by addressing Mr Markle as "daddy".
The court heard that the duchess had asked her head of communications: "Given I've only ever called him 'daddy' it may make sense to open as such, despite him being less than paternal, and in the unfortunate event that it leaked it would pull at the heartstrings."
Andrew Caldecott, representing the news organisation, quoted Meghan in a further exchange, saying the letter was "real, honest and factual, and if he leaks it, then that's on his conscience, and at least the world will know the truth. Words I could never voice publicly".
And the court heard the exchange said: "Obviously everything I have drafted is with the understanding that it could be leaked, so I have been meticulous in my word choice."
Associated Newspapers' legal team are disputing in their appeal that this was simply a private and personal letter - and have argued that it was crafted with the "possibility of public consumption" in mind.
They are seeking to overturn a previous court ruling in favour of the duchess, who had successfully sued over the publication of part of the letter.
The duchess had won her claim that this was a misuse of her private information and a breach of copyright.
The letter had been sent to Thomas Markle a few months after the duchess had married Prince Harry and it challenged his dealings with the media.
Mr Markle, who was said to be unhappy at other media accounts of his relationship with his daughter, had given the letter to the Mail on Sunday.
Lawyers for the newspaper suggested he wanted to challenge a "false narrative" of the run-up to his daughter's wedding and that revealing the letter was a form of right of reply.
The duchess's legal team has still to provide their account, as they seek to uphold the finding of the earlier court.
Welcoming the earlier ruling, Meghan had said it was a victory against "dehumanising" media behaviour.
"The damage they have done and continue to do runs deep," she said.
The Mail on Sunday faced a requirement to publish a front-page statement on the Duchess of Sussex's case, which has been put on hold pending the outcome of the appeal.
The hearing is due to end on Thursday.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59236643
Oliver_W
10-11-2021, 03:57 PM
Does it really matter what she calls him?
Cherie
10-11-2021, 04:01 PM
Does it really matter what she calls him?
Well yes when it appears she calculated what would play best if it were leaked :laugh:
Oliver_W
10-11-2021, 04:16 PM
Well yes when it appears she calculated what would play best if it were leaked :laugh:
Eh. She's all about image and publicity, so at least she's consistent :joker:
Jordan.
10-11-2021, 04:30 PM
"She knew the possibility it could leak when she wrote it therefore it was okay for us to leak it" is a flimsy excuse at best. The princess will win this case once again.
Crimson Dynamo
10-11-2021, 04:39 PM
No one is surprised
Poor Harry, he has no idea what she is
Glenn.
10-11-2021, 04:42 PM
Her dad give the letter to the mail? Am I reading that right?
smudgie
10-11-2021, 05:51 PM
Well, if she calls him daddy then obviously she would send her letter to daddy.:shrug:
Meghan had revealed the letter to friends who leaked parts of it that painted her father in a bad light to People magazine. That was why Mr Markle went to the Mail on Sunday, to reveal the letter in its proper context.
The Telegraph.
On Tuesday, the Court heard arguments about a People magazine article in which the existence of the letter was first made public, saying it made a “number of serious defamatory allegations” about Mr Markle that he could defend himself from “only by disclosing the text of the letter”.
Mr Caldecott said the article made a "serious allegation" that Mr Markle would not take his daughter and son-in-law’s phone calls and “never texted” in the lead-up to the wedding, adding that it fortified “the impression he had heartlessly ignored his daughter at this most important time”.
In fact, he told the court, it was contradicted by pre-wedding texts telling the Duchess he had undergone heart surgery, was unable to fly, and was sorry.
"It's all so close now and I can't wait to walk you down the aisle,” he told his daughter, in the lead-up to the wedding, before messaging to say he was safe in an American hospital and would have to stay there.
After heart surgery, he said: “The doctor will not allow me to fly so of course I can't come. Love you and wish you the best of everything."
He later added: "Who will be giving you away? If you really need me, I will come. I'm sorry about all of this."
Saying the relevant messages were absent from Lord Justice Warby’s summary, ANL called the judgment “one-sided when all the texts are considered”.
rusticgal
10-11-2021, 11:01 PM
Well, if she calls him daddy then obviously she would send her letter to daddy.:shrug:
Having calculated it may be leaked and ‘pull at the heartstrings’ :laugh:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/11/10/duchess-sussex-called-father-daddy-letter-believing-would-pull/
Duchess of Sussex apologises to court for forgetting she authorised senior aide to brief authors of her biography
The Duchess of Sussex has apologised to the British court for failing to remember that she authorised a senior aide to brief the authors of her biography.
The Duchess, who has previously insisted through lawyers that there was no collaboration with the authors of Finding Freedom, said she had forgotten email exchanges with her then-press secretary Jason Knauf about a meeting.
In a witness statement to the Court of Appeal, Mr Knauf said the Duke and Duchess of Sussex had "authorised specific cooperation in writing" in December 2018. ......
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She ‘forgot’. Of course you did Meghan. :rolleyes:
She just can't help telling lie after lie and when she tells lies to the court it goes to a new level.
LaLaLand
10-11-2021, 11:46 PM
She just keeps getting caught fibbing and my initial total support for them is depleting rapidly each and every time.
rusticgal
11-11-2021, 12:50 AM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/11/10/duchess-sussex-called-father-daddy-letter-believing-would-pull/
Duchess of Sussex apologises to court for forgetting she authorised senior aide to brief authors of her biography
The Duchess of Sussex has apologised to the British court for failing to remember that she authorised a senior aide to brief the authors of her biography.
The Duchess, who has previously insisted through lawyers that there was no collaboration with the authors of Finding Freedom, said she had forgotten email exchanges with her then-press secretary Jason Knauf about a meeting.
In a witness statement to the Court of Appeal, Mr Knauf said the Duke and Duchess of Sussex had "authorised specific cooperation in writing" in December 2018. ......
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She ‘forgot’. Of course you did Meghan. :rolleyes:
She just can't help telling lie after lie and when she tells lies to the court it goes to a new level.
Like how would you ‘forget’ that you authorised an aide to brief authors of your biography….she is a calculating liar…lie after lie after lie….what a joke.
what she did was perjury .... lying to the court, which is a very serious offence
user104658
11-11-2021, 07:02 AM
what she did was perjury .... lying to the court, which is a very serious offence
That’s why most decent lawyers will tell their clients to say “not to my recollection” rather than “no”, because then it isn’t a lie unless they can prove that you didn’t forget.
So it depends what she said when asked the first time.
Cherie
11-11-2021, 07:54 AM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/11/10/duchess-sussex-called-father-daddy-letter-believing-would-pull/
Duchess of Sussex apologises to court for forgetting she authorised senior aide to brief authors of her biography
The Duchess of Sussex has apologised to the British court for failing to remember that she authorised a senior aide to brief the authors of her biography.
The Duchess, who has previously insisted through lawyers that there was no collaboration with the authors of Finding Freedom, said she had forgotten email exchanges with her then-press secretary Jason Knauf about a meeting.
In a witness statement to the Court of Appeal, Mr Knauf said the Duke and Duchess of Sussex had "authorised specific cooperation in writing" in December 2018. ......
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She ‘forgot’. Of course you did Meghan. :rolleyes:
She just can't help telling lie after lie and when she tells lies to the court it goes to a new level.
Oh deary me ..how embarrassing
Interestingly Jason Knauf still works for William....revenge is a dish best served cold and all that ...
user104658
11-11-2021, 08:08 AM
Conflict of interests is a dish best served with a professional admission that there’s a conflict of interests and gracefully stepping aside, so I don’t think we’re at a classy restaurant this time.
Cherie
11-11-2021, 08:30 AM
Conflict of interests is a dish best served with a professional admission that there’s a conflict of interests and gracefully stepping aside, so I don’t think we’re at a classy restaurant this time.
telling lies is never classy that is true
Cherie
11-11-2021, 09:12 AM
So Jason Knaufe had a two hour meeting with Omid Scobie in which he used briefing notes provided by Meghan....
Scobie has already given a witness statement stating he had no contact with the pair...
:umm2:
yes, it pretty much indicates there was conspiracy to deceive the british court too, not just perjury.
Given that her passing on information to feed the book is a fundamental part of the court case, and that she she gave information on multiple occasions, she just can't play the "i forgot" card
Livia
11-11-2021, 10:03 AM
Well, if she calls him daddy then obviously she would send her letter to daddy.:shrug:
Her comment was that using the term "Daddy" would "pull at people's heartstrings" when it was leaked. Bear in mind that her friends had already leaked parts of the letter with her blessing, long before her Dad did.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD3cxdUXoAEEndR?format=jpg
Her lies sure did fool her gullible fans.
It seems likely that Meghan was hoping the letter would be made public - apart from her friends giving People mag info about its contents, Meghan wrote all 5 pages in meticulous calligraphy, telling the aide that she was ending each page in the middle of a sentence so that any page couldn’t be construed as the ending of the letter.
[Two days later she told the aide she felt “fantastic” after writing it, adding: “And if he leaks it then that’s on his conscious [sic] but at least the world will know the truth.' (The Times)]
It would have been quicker for her (and Harry) to jump on a plane to go see her father, which Palace aides strongly advised her to do. She repeatedly refused, according to evidence produced in court.
Cherie
11-11-2021, 12:48 PM
Not calculating at all
like moving to Canada for the quiet life :laugh:
Not calculating at all
like moving to Canada for the quiet life :laugh:
Indeed. :laugh:
Which most of us read as “Canada - another step closer in my plan to get back to the USA where I’ll be fawned over as a Very Very Important Royal Person - and make buckets of money!" :creep:
Jordan.
11-11-2021, 02:30 PM
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Stunning, unbothered and thriving :love:
Jordan.
11-11-2021, 02:34 PM
get back to the USA where I’ll be fawned over as a Very Very Important Royal Person - and make buckets of money!" :creep:
Mission accomplished :clap1:
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Stunning, unbothered and thriving :love:
And still ****ting a massive carbon footprint all over us all by attending these free lunches.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 02:45 PM
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Stunning, unbothered and thriving :love:
:clap1:
Her nose looks like its grown an inch.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 02:49 PM
Her nose looks like its grown an inch.
Don’t be jealous just because you have something you’d wish would grow an inch parm
Don’t be jealous just because you have something you’d wish would grow an inch parm
Unlike you I ain't concerned about the size of my cock.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 02:55 PM
Unlike you I ain't concerned about the size of my cock.
Just the size of a woman’s nose…
Just the size of a woman’s nose…
I think we should just call her liar, instead of woman, when we refer to liar from now on.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 03:00 PM
I think we should just call her liar, instead of woman, when we refer to liar from now on.
However you want to disrespect women is on you. Shouldn’t be asking people to join you in that.
However you want to disrespect women is on you. Shouldn’t be asking people to join you in that.
Its her own fault if that disrespect is because of her lies...
Respect must be earned.
Mission accomplished :clap1:
Sorry, but she isn't being fawned over by the big hitters she thought would be fawning over her, and they aren't making enough to sustain their extravagant lifestyle long term apparently....and accompishing what she has managed through lies, manipulation and deceit isn't something to be proud of. Maybe it is to you. :shrug:
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 03:07 PM
Its her own fault if that disrespect is because of her lies...
Respect must be earned.
She doesn’t have to earn anyones respect least of all yours.
She doesn’t have to earn anyones respect least of all yours.
Oh, she certainly does if she wants to be taken seriously....
:joker:good luck with that liar.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 03:10 PM
Oh, she certainly does if she wants to be taken seriously....
:joker:good luck with that liar.
:joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:
meghan is in genuine jeopardy due to her perjury, a fact that most seem to be ignoring
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 03:15 PM
meghan is in genuine jeopardy due to her perjury, a fact that most seem to be ignoring
We’re discussing the size of her nose at the minute because that’s what’s important it seems
We’re discussing the size of her nose at the minute because that’s what’s important it seems
You've missed the point of me mentioning her nose ain't ya!!:hehe:
We’re discussing the size of her nose at the minute because that’s what’s important it seems
i think you have lost the plot, she is a proven liar and there is no defence, so you just resort to complete nonsense
Jordan.
11-11-2021, 03:20 PM
Sorry, but she isn't being fawned over by the big hitters she thought would be fawning over her, and they aren't making enough to sustain their extravagant lifestyle long term apparently....and accompishing what she has managed through lies, manipulation and deceit isn't something to be proud of. Maybe it is to you. :shrug:
Netflix, Spotify, Disney... sure the big hitters aren't fawning over her and she's only making a tuppence. How big is your nose from lying to yourself? :joker:
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 03:21 PM
You've missed the point of me mentioning her nose ain't ya!!:hehe:
No parm I didn’t miss the point, I just think you thought it would be funnier than it actually was.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 03:22 PM
i think you have lost the plot, she is a proven liar and there is no defence, so you just resort to complete nonsense
Babes it’s not that serious
No parm I didn’t miss the point, I just think you thought it would be funnier than it actually was.
Well I'm laughing...and that's what matters eh.:wavey:
Babes it’s not that serious
Commiting perjury is infact a rather serious crime.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 03:25 PM
Commiting perjury is infact a rather serious crime.
Well when she’s convicted of perjury we’ll discuss it.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 03:27 PM
Netflix, Spotify, Disney... sure the big hitters aren't fawning over her and she's only making a tuppence. How big is your nose from lying to yourself? :joker:
They can’t stand the fact that they’re supporting themselves. They all wanted them to fail when they left the Royal Family.
Well when she’s convicted of perjury we’ll discuss it.
Like her uncle in law, she will use her royal influence to avoid the deserved prosecution...the royal pardon isnt solely for paedophiles.
Netflix, Spotify, Disney... sure the big hitters aren't fawning over her and she's only making a tuppence. How big is your nose from lying to yourself? :joker:
By ‘big hitters’ I mean America’s respected VIP’s not money making businesses like Netflix and Spotify who are using them to attract viewers (which isn’t happening so far.)
Meghan and Harry got advances from these entities, but only get paid more of the projected total amount for what they actually produce, which again, has been nothing so far. They have a few projects coming up, but much will depend on how many viewers they get and for future projects. It’s all very iffy. Netflix and Spotify apparently are impatient and NOT very happy with them so far.
Tbh they should all drop her for her lies in court.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 03:40 PM
Like her uncle in law, she will use her royal influence to avoid the deserved prosecution...the royal pardon isnt solely for paedophiles.
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Glenn.
11-11-2021, 03:41 PM
By ‘big hitters’ I mean America’s respected VIP’s not money making businesses like Netflix and Spotify who are using them to attract viewers (which isn’t happening so far.)
Meghan and Harry got advances from these entities, but only get paid more of the projected total amount for what they actually produce, which again, has been nothing so far. They have a few projects coming up, but much will depend on how many viewers they get and for future projects. It’s all very iffy. Netflix and Spotify apparently are impatient and NOT very happy with them so far.
Be sure to keep us all updated!
Be sure to keep us all updated!
Seeing as you asked, I will, especially for you. :laugh:
rusticgal
11-11-2021, 04:30 PM
i think you have lost the plot, she is a proven liar and there is no defence, so you just resort to complete nonsense
There is no defense whatsoever.....She was dubbed Princess Pinnochio some time ago on here....that was after the waterfall of lies on The Oprah Winfrey programme....seems like she just cant help herself.
Once a liar...always a liar...she will never be trusted or taken seriously again.
rusticgal
11-11-2021, 04:31 PM
Commiting perjury is infact a rather serious crime.
Maximum 7 years in prison....:hehe:
Livia
11-11-2021, 04:33 PM
Like her uncle in law, she will use her royal influence to avoid the deserved prosecution...the royal pardon isnt solely for paedophiles.
Andrew has never been charged with anything. Just saying.
Livia
11-11-2021, 04:36 PM
They can’t stand the fact that they’re supporting themselves. They all wanted them to fail when they left the Royal Family.
Is that why she lied? Is it someone else's fault? Delusional...
rusticgal
11-11-2021, 04:40 PM
Like her uncle in law, she will use her royal influence to avoid the deserved prosecution...the royal pardon isnt solely for paedophiles.
She wont be prosecuted....however its just another nail in her coffin...her reputation is seriously damaged even further and her popularity is waning ...:smug:
Jordan.
11-11-2021, 04:41 PM
however its just another nail in her coffin...her reputation is seriously damaged even further and her popularity is waning ...:smug:
We know, people have been saying this for the last 5 years :joker:
rusticgal
11-11-2021, 04:42 PM
They can’t stand the fact that they’re supporting themselves. They all wanted them to fail when they left the Royal Family.
Carry on clutching those straws...:laugh:
Crimson Dynamo
11-11-2021, 04:44 PM
We know, people have been saying this for the last 5 years :joker:
because its true
her standing in the UK is at its lowest it has ever been
she is 2nd bottom with Andrew
:joker:
https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/politics/popularity/royalty/all
Jordan.
11-11-2021, 04:46 PM
because its true
her standing in the UK is at its lowest it has ever been
she is 2nd bottom with Andrew
:joker:
https://yougov.co.uk/ratings/politics/popularity/royalty/all
The UK is no longer on her radar, she moved on to bigger and better things, time her detractors did the same.
Crimson Dynamo
11-11-2021, 04:48 PM
The UK is no longer on her radar, she moved on to bigger and better things, time her detractors did the same.
https://c.tenor.com/2rblna5QiwYAAAAM/yes-uhhuh.gif
Babes it’s not that serious
Perjury charges are those received for the conviction of a perjury criminal offence. The law on perjury is found in the Perjury Act 1911 which explains that perjury is when you have lawfully sworn as a witness or interpreter in a judicial proceeding when you knew the oath to be false, or at least did not believe it to be true. This is also known as Perverting the Course of Justice. For the offence to qualify as perjury, it must:
Be made under oath; and
You must make the statement with the intent of misleading the court. If your statements are inconsistent because you are lying under oath, the prosecution can accuse you of perjury without identifying which statement is false.
What happens if you commit perjury?
The punishment for perjury in the UK may include having to spend time in prison, probation, or paying fines to the court. It can also interfere with their ability to obtain employment or security clearance, as they will be convicted of a crime of dishonesty. The consequences for perjury are very serious as this is wasting police time. It is triable on indictment and the charge is imprisonment of a term not exceeding 7 years, or a fine or both.
http://bloomsbury-law.com/criminal-defence/perjury-uk/
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Seems pretty serious to me
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 04:51 PM
And until she’s charges and convicted of perjury it’s just more gossip
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 04:53 PM
Is that why she lied? Is it someone else's fault? Delusional...
Carry on clutching those straws...:laugh:
Touched a nerve? They continue to live rent free
And until she’s charges and convicted of perjury it’s just more gossip
it's not gossip because she had to say to the court that what she said under oath was false. It's actually the exact opposite of gossip, its fact
rusticgal
11-11-2021, 04:58 PM
The UK is no longer on her radar, she moved on to bigger and better things, time her detractors did the same.
Correction...she thought she was moving on to bigger and better things until they discovered that she couldnt be trusted with her mis representation of the truth and her lack of discretion....
When people align themselves supporting manipulating liars it says a lot about those people...:laugh:
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 05:00 PM
And yet she’s still earning that fortune.
rusticgal
11-11-2021, 05:02 PM
Touched a nerve? They continue to live rent free
Not at all....in fact I find your desperation in support of her highly amusing :hee:
rusticgal
11-11-2021, 05:04 PM
And yet she’s still earning that fortune.
Really???...how would you know how much she is earning?...unless you know her personally of course.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 05:05 PM
You’ve just tried making a point whilst debunking your own…
LukeB
11-11-2021, 05:06 PM
See you toxic haters are still obsessed with Megan.. Middle Aged people being obsessed with a celebrity… sad
Jordan.
11-11-2021, 05:06 PM
Correction...she thought she was moving on to bigger and better things until they discovered that she couldnt be trusted with her mis representation of the truth and her lack of discretion....
When people align themselves supporting manipulating liars it says a lot about those people...:laugh:
Who is they? What has her apparant misrepresentation and lack of discretion cost her so far?
Kazanne
11-11-2021, 05:08 PM
So ,IF according to some she has done nothing wrong as she hasn't been tried and found guilty. surely that must follow for Andrew as well as it's all gossip ?
See you toxic haters are still obsessed with Megan.. Middle Aged people being obsessed with a celebrity… sad
You have four celeb favourites in your thing underneath your avi, that avi is actually a picture of another celeb as well....can I be ageist back at you?
LukeB
11-11-2021, 05:17 PM
You have four celeb favourites in your thing underneath your avi, that avi is actually a picture of another celeb as well....can I be ageist back at you?
difference is they are just pictures of celebrities and i don't spend all my time and energy talking about that person all the time... :hee:
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:21 PM
See you toxic haters are still obsessed with Megan.. Middle Aged people being obsessed with a celebrity… sad
Do you understand that you're not allowed to insult other forum members, even if you don't agree with them? Sad.
LukeB
11-11-2021, 05:22 PM
Do you understand that you're not allowed to insult other forum members, even if you don't agree with them? Sad.
I'm not bothered... just pointing how toxic you are being over a celebrity.. I thought teenagers on stan twitter were bad you lot are something else.
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:23 PM
Who is they? What has her apparant misrepresentation and lack of discretion cost her so far?
Considering the news only broke in the last 48 hours that seems a very strange question to ask. I mean, if we can put aside money for a minute, I'd say she's lost quite a bit already.
rusticgal
11-11-2021, 05:23 PM
I'm not bothered....
Eh....you clearly are :laugh:
joeysteele
11-11-2021, 05:24 PM
So ,IF according to some she has done nothing wrong as she hasn't been tried and found guilty. surely that must follow for Andrew as well as it's all gossip ?
Well yes it does.
Speaking for myself is, I agree with you, nothing has yet been proven re Prince Andrew.
My gripe is if he's done nothing why not be willingly interviewed.
Why has the Queen and the Royal set up not had him do so.
Before him now possibly being forced to.
However you make a good point Kazanne.
Personally, I'm fed up of the Royal sagas, across the Atlantic and at this side of it too.
The only legacy of this Monarch will soon be, instead of undeniable massive support of the Monarchy when she came to the throne.
That in her 70 years on it, the standing of the Monarchy has been eroded very heavily since.
There's mention on here of perjury re Meghan Markle.
People actually lie in courts all the time.
Perjury doesn't often get to be put to courts.
Because of important issues of it .
It has to be proven, undeniably that the false statements were done to DELIBERATELY mislead, and were knowingly DELIBERATELY made too.
I think and doubt, that last sentence would stick in the USA legal system re Meghan Markle.
So it would shock me bigtime if it was ever to come to be levelled at her.
LukeB
11-11-2021, 05:24 PM
Eh....you clearly are :laugh:
Why would i be bothered about 'insulting' toxic behavior?
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:25 PM
I'm not bothered... just pointing how toxic you are being over a celebrity.. I thought teenagers on stan twitter were bad you lot are something else.
Oh please. You're insulting people you don't really know over a celebrity that you will never know.
rusticgal
11-11-2021, 05:25 PM
Who is they? What has her apparant misrepresentation and lack of discretion cost her so far?
The snub from the Obamas to start....keep up.
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:27 PM
Why would i be bothered about 'insulting' toxic behavior?
Maybe because you're not worldly enough to know what toxic behaviour really is.
difference is they are just pictures of celebrities and i don't spend all my time and energy talking about that person all the time... :hee:
Ah, you mean just like everyone else does who you've just insulted with your post...
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 05:27 PM
Come on guys the irrational hatred IS toxic.
LukeB
11-11-2021, 05:27 PM
Oh please. You're insulting people you don't really know over a celebrity that you will never know.
and?
Jordan.
11-11-2021, 05:27 PM
The snub from the Obamas to start....keep up.
Well that alone doesn't seem to have done much damage... please continue what else?
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:28 PM
and?
So long as you understand what an empty pursuit that is. Not everyone is always going to agree with you.
LukeB
11-11-2021, 05:29 PM
Maybe because you're not worldly enough to know what toxic behaviour really is.
You can be condescending all you want but I know what toxic behavior and most of you show it.
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:29 PM
Well that alone doesn't seem to have done much damage... please continue what else?
And of course, you are in a position to judge.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 05:29 PM
So long as you understand what an empty pursuit that is.
Wise words for the haters right there
Jordan.
11-11-2021, 05:29 PM
And of course, you are in a position to judge.
Are you?
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:31 PM
You can be condescending all you want but I know what toxic behavior and most of you show it.
Oh, you think I'm condescending? After insulting loads of FMs?
If you're that unhappy, report the posts you imagine are toxic and stop insulting people.
LukeB
11-11-2021, 05:31 PM
Oh, you think I'm condescending? After insulting loads of FMs?
If you're that unhappy, report the posts you imagine are toxic and stop insulting people.
I will leave you to report posts because i know you love playing the victim.
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:32 PM
Are you?
No. And that's why I just gave my opinion and didn't start pretending I could judge what's going on in a multimillionaire's life financially.
Jordan.
11-11-2021, 05:33 PM
No. And that's why I just gave my opinion and didn't start pretending I could judge what's going on in a multimillionaire's life financially.
I'm giving my opinion too on the people who are judging her career :)
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:34 PM
I will leave you to report posts because i know you love playing the victim.
What do you mean by that? Or are you going to pop off now instead of having the courage of your convictions?
I'd be interested to know what you mean. Because you know less about me than you do about Meghan Markle, and that's virtually nothing.
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:35 PM
I'm giving my opinion too on the people who are judging her career :)
You're not supposed to be discussing other forum members, read the rules.
GoldHeart
11-11-2021, 05:38 PM
I'm giving my opinion too on the people who are judging her career :)
Jordan I tried pm ing you but your inbox is full
Jordan I tried pm ing you but your inbox is full
People calling her a bitch probably.
joeysteele
11-11-2021, 05:40 PM
difference is they are just pictures of celebrities and i don't spend all my time and energy talking about that person all the time... :hee:
Very good point Luke.
Good to see you posting again.
Jordan.
11-11-2021, 05:41 PM
People calling her a bitch probably.
I'd take it over what people think of you.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 05:41 PM
I will leave you to report posts because i know you love playing the victim.
Oop
Very good point Luke.
Good to see you posting again.
It's not a good point, its lie...
I think its safe to say nobody on here spends all their time talking about the liar.
I'd take it over what people think of you.
:joker:
Same.
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:44 PM
Oop
Again, you pop in to have a bitchy comment but you won't say what you mean.
Gutless.
I am no a victim and I've never played one.
All we need now is Marsh to weigh in.
Jordan.
11-11-2021, 05:46 PM
Again, you pop in to have a bitchy comment but you won't say what you mean.
Gutless.
I am no a victim and I've never played one.
All we need now is Marsh to weigh in.
If he said what he really meant would you be first to remind him of the forum rules?
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 05:46 PM
Again, you pop in to have a bitchy comment but you won't say what you mean.
Gutless.
I am no a victim and I've never played one.
All we need now is Marsh to weigh in.
Didn’t you accuse a forum member of causing you to have a miscarriage?
If he said what he really meant would you be first to remind him of the forum rules?
How do you know what he really means
Cherie
11-11-2021, 05:47 PM
Again, you pop in to have a bitchy comment but you won't say what you mean.
Gutless.
I am no a victim and I've never played one.
All we need now is Marsh to weigh in.
He left I think
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 05:47 PM
Sorry it wasn’t an accusation you literally blamed them for it
LukeB
11-11-2021, 05:50 PM
What do you mean by that? Or are you going to pop off now instead of having the courage of your convictions?
I'd be interested to know what you mean. Because you know less about me than you do about Meghan Markle, and that's virtually nothing.
For starters the way you always accuse others of being antisemitic on here when no one was..
Very good point Luke.
Good to see you posting again.
:love:
It's not a good point, its lie...
I think its safe to say nobody on here spends all their time talking about the liar.
Please don't make me laugh.
Cherie
11-11-2021, 05:50 PM
funny that the people complaining about people discussing a person who is in the news currently have no qualms about spreading gossip they made up themselves about Livia :conf:
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:50 PM
Didn’t you accuse a forum member of causing you to have a miscarriage?
Hmmm... no.
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:52 PM
For starters the way you always accuse others of being antisemitic on here when no one was..
:love:
Please don't make me laugh.
I've only ever accused anyone of anti-Semitism when they've said something anti-Semitic.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 05:52 PM
Hmmm... no.
Oh no it was the stressful birth of your firstborn I’m told. It was stressful because of TiBB
Oh no it was the stressful birth of your firstborn I’m told. It was stressful because of TiBB
That's a massive backtrack, without an apology as well..
Shows you up mate...
LukeB
11-11-2021, 05:54 PM
I've only ever accused anyone of anti-Semitism when they've said something anti-Semitic.
If you say so but anyway continue being obsessed with Megan :love:
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:54 PM
Oh no it was the stressful birth of your firstborn I’m told. It was stressful because of TiBB
Let me say it again for you.
I was perfectly healthy... then I received a death threat from someone while I was home alone and pregnant. My blood pressure rocketed and I was hospitalised twice. But hey, you won't believe that, and I don't care.
Stop making up lies.
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:55 PM
If you say so but anyway continue being obsessed with Megan :love:
I could give a stuff about Meghan.
If you say so but anyway continue being obsessed with Megan :love:
Ain't you apologising before you scuttle off?
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 05:55 PM
That's a massive backtrack, without an apology as well..
Shows you up mate...
Show me where I asked or even care for anything you say?
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 05:55 PM
Let me say it again for you.
I was perfectly healthy... then I received a death threat from someone while I was home alone and pregnant. My blood pressure rocketed and I was hospitalised twice. But hey, you won't believe that, and I don't care.
Stop making up lies.
Sure livia. We believe you
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:56 PM
That's a massive backtrack, without an apology as well..
Shows you up mate...
It's the Discord Women's Institute, Parm. They like a gossip.
LukeB
11-11-2021, 05:56 PM
I could give a stuff about Meghan.
Then why have you got a lot of posts in her threads?
You could make a thread about Justin Bieber who I'm not a fan of and you won't see me really commenting a lot on each thread. People pretend to not be bothered about Megan but still talk about her a lot.
Show me where I asked or even care for anything you say?
Still cant apologise, like a proper man would.
LukeB
11-11-2021, 05:57 PM
Ain't you apologising before you scuttle off?
For what? Not my fault some of you are toxic :shrug:
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:58 PM
Then why have you got a lot of posts in her threads?
You could make a thread about Justin Bieber who I'm not a fan of and you won't see me really commenting a lot on each thread. People pretend to not be bothered about Megan but still talk about her a lot.
Because it's a F U C K I N G DISCUSSION FORUM.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 05:58 PM
Would just like to add this
‘ The reason we let it go was that I almost lost my child with the stress of being threatened. My baby was born at 7 months. That was all because of the threats and the stress.’
Livias words. Might have misinterpreted but it kinda does imply she almost miscarried
For what? Not my fault some of you are toxic :shrug:
Is glenn one?
For what? Not my fault some of you are toxic :shrug:
please explain why it's toxic to discuss a crime that a person has committed
Livia
11-11-2021, 05:59 PM
Would just like to add this
‘ The reason we let it go was that I almost lost my child with the stress of being threatened. My baby was born at 7 months. That was all because of the threats and the stress.’
Livias words. Might have misinterpreted but it kinda does imply she almost miscarried
You're obsessed. I see someone still has a copy.
I stand by what I said.
You can do one.
LukeB
11-11-2021, 06:00 PM
Is glenn one?
No, I haven't really seen him spend a lot of time hating on someone.
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 06:00 PM
Just pointing out and reaffirming lukes point of you playing the victim that’s all. Let’s not lie to the forum
Would just like to add this
‘ The reason we let it go was that I almost lost my child with the stress of being threatened. My baby was born at 7 months. That was all because of the threats and the stress.’
Livias words. Might have misinterpreted but it kinda does imply she almost miscarried
You should have had this all set up before making a clown of yourself by falsely accusing someone.....your little friends have let you down tonight.:joker:
I'm calling perjury on your actions tonight.
I've only ever accused anyone of anti-Semitism when they've said something anti-Semitic.
i had exactly the same problem with the blatant and persistent ageism
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 06:02 PM
Why is it still talking to me and about me I literally just said I don’t respect what comes out of it’s mouth
No, I haven't really seen him spend a lot of time hating on someone.
Have you been spending all your time just staring st the forum to check?
LukeB
11-11-2021, 06:03 PM
please explain why it's toxic to discuss a crime that a person has committed
There is an discussion and there's a lot of unnecessary hate like that much hatred is not even healthy at all, even her miscarriage thread turned into a hate thread.
LukeB
11-11-2021, 06:05 PM
Have you been spending all your time just staring st the forum to check?
No, i'm not you.
Jordan.
11-11-2021, 06:06 PM
Back to the gorgeous Princess I think
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/prince-harry-duke-of-sussex-and-meghan-duchess-of-sussex-news-photo-1636588835.jpg
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 06:06 PM
So beautiful
LukeB
11-11-2021, 06:07 PM
Back to the gorgeous Princess I think
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/images/prince-harry-duke-of-sussex-and-meghan-duchess-of-sussex-news-photo-1636588835.jpg
Stunning :love:
No, i'm not you.
Judge him on his actions in this thread then...and decide again.:sad:
LukeB
11-11-2021, 06:07 PM
Judge him on his actions in this thread then...and decide again.:sad:
He wasn't toxic on this thread?
Glenn.
11-11-2021, 06:09 PM
As flattered as I am that the discussion is now on me, imma head out and get some dick.
There is an discussion and there's a lot of unnecessary hate like that much hatred is not even healthy at all, even her miscarriage thread turned into a hate thread.
how is it hatred to discuss a persons perjury, i really don't get it. Does similar apply with people discussing boris or the MP that resigned. Are all those people haters too ?
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