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Wow !
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Not sure why the title isn’t showing Azeem Rafiq
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Cricket has always been pretty bad for being an old boys club which isn't very inclusive for people of other backgrounds, think this is revealing it's a lot worse than many people realised though. Bumble and Michael Vaughans media careers probably won't recover and lots more people will come out very tarnished from it all
Hopefully will be the catalyst for things to change because what he said about not wanting his son to play cricket now is pretty sad given how fanatical about the sport a lot of the South Asian community is
Cricket has always been pretty bad for being an old boys club which isn't very inclusive for people of other backgrounds, think this is revealing it's a lot worse than many people realised though. Bumble and Michael Vaughans media careers probably won't recover and lots more people will come out very tarnished from it all
Hopefully will be the catalyst for things to change because what he said about not wanting his son to play cricket now is pretty sad given how fanatical about the sport a lot of the South Asian community is
Well he gave a very powerful and emotional account of things for about 2 hours ... the part about his son was heart wrenching.
I’m thinking this will drive things forwards over the coming weeks .... he made it perfectly clear thar it wasn’t just a Yorkshire problem and mentioned name after name after name .
Cricket may never be the same again after this morning.
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Cherie
16-11-2021, 12:12 PM
Unfortunately I missed his press conference, sounds shocking though
i've been following it for a few weeks and it's staggering .... They did things like urinate on his head ... and the investigation recommended no further action was necessary ... it's just crazy
Niamh.
16-11-2021, 12:21 PM
i've been following it for a few weeks and it's staggering .... They did things like urinate on his head ... and the investigation recommended no further action was necessary ... it's just crazy
That's absolutely disgusting
Cherie
16-11-2021, 12:22 PM
i've been following it for a few weeks and it's staggering .... They did things like urinate on his head ... and the investigation recommended no further action was necessary ... it's just crazy
what the hell, I hope they are all sacked
what the hell, I hope they are all sacked
I can see this spreading like wildfire throughout the whole of UK cricket .. presumably resulting in many resignations at all levels of the clubs .
Thing is that will just create a vacuum and what’s to say all the new people will be any better ?
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here is my original post on it all, it provides a summary of the sequence of events .... to me it's mind blowing
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378757
He was very emotional this morning.
Cherie
16-11-2021, 03:52 PM
here is my original post on it all, it provides a summary of the sequence of events .... to me it's mind blowing
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378757
Yorkshire dont come out of that looking to good do they, they missed repeated deadlines and sent redacted paperwork
Mystic Mock
16-11-2021, 04:43 PM
Cricket has always been pretty bad for being an old boys club which isn't very inclusive for people of other backgrounds, think this is revealing it's a lot worse than many people realised though. Bumble and Michael Vaughans media careers probably won't recover and lots more people will come out very tarnished from it all
Hopefully will be the catalyst for things to change because what he said about not wanting his son to play cricket now is pretty sad given how fanatical about the sport a lot of the South Asian community is
That's true tbf about Cricket being an old boys club, sadly a lot of Sports are like this once you get away from Football and Rugby.
With Michael Vaughan's alleged comment, I really can't tell if it was intended as a joke about how good Asian players are at Cricket or if he genuinely was being a racist prick, that's if he really made the comment of course.
And like you I hope that change for the better on this issue will be happening within the Sport.
It’s interesting that the speakers this morning could all name ‘names’ without fear of reprisals of something..
Yet whilst Azeem mentioned loads of people by name .. even Joe Root - who he says was a lovely , lovely guy who never joined in with the others but stood back and did nothing even though he was the captain .. when he told of the incident on his 15th birthday where he had red wine forced down his throat .. he didn’t name the guy just said he played for Hampshire and Yorkshire
Also another guy was giving his account of things and he mentioned names but when he told of the time someone demanded that the enquiry was dropped he didn’t mention HIS name he just referred to him as the CO .
Why were some people not named ?
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arista
16-11-2021, 04:48 PM
Yes it's sad.
And Very Wrong
arista
17-11-2021, 02:29 AM
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arista
17-11-2021, 02:41 AM
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It’s interesting that the speakers this morning could all name ‘names’ without fear of reprisals of something..
Yet whilst Azeem mentioned loads of people by name .. even Joe Root - who he says was a lovely , lovely guy who never joined in with the others but stood back and did nothing even though he was the captain .. when he told of the incident on his 15th birthday where he had red wine forced down his throat .. he didn’t name the guy just said he played for Hampshire and Yorkshire
Also another guy was giving his account of things and he mentioned names but when he told of the time someone demanded that the enquiry was dropped he didn’t mention HIS name he just referred to him as the CO .
Why were some people not named ?
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It'd be a bit different naming and shaming a youth player, they might not even have ever become a professional cricketer in the end
some players will have taken out injunctions, i think thats why they arent able to mention some people
It'd be a bit different naming and shaming a youth player, they might not even have ever become a professional cricketer in the end
Yeah but one of the main guys not named was playing for Yorkshire and Hampshire so it sounds like he’s more experienced - you may have a point though
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some players will have taken out injunctions, i think thats why they arent able to mention some people
Wasn’t yesterday’s platform supposed to get around that though .. where they could name names with impunity ?
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No, anyone appearing can't be prosecuted for the actions that they did at the cricket club, but if someone took out an injunction against being named then they are breaking the law if they name them
Wasn’t yesterday’s platform supposed to get around that though .. where they could name names with impunity ?
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Maybe that’s why he named two teams the guy played for so everyone could work out who it probably was
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Azeem Rafiq has apologised and said he is "deeply ashamed" for using anti-Semitic language in messages from 2011.
Former spinner Rafiq has spoken of his experiences of racism and bullying at Yorkshire and appeared at a Digital, Culture, Media and Sport select committee this week.
The 30-year-old said he had "absolutely no excuses" for the messages.
"I am incredibly angry at myself and apologise to the Jewish community," he said in a statement.
Rafiq said he had deleted the messages to not cause further offence.
"I have absolutely no excuses. I am ashamed of this exchange," he said.
"I was 19 at the time and hope and believe I am a different person today."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59338118
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Crimson Dynamo
18-11-2021, 04:54 PM
what a total farce
him on all media crying about the nasty names he got called and now this
what a total farce
him on all media crying about the nasty names he got called and now this
This new development changes nothing -it has no bearing on the racism problems that run so deeply in society
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Crimson Dynamo
18-11-2021, 05:18 PM
This new development changes nothing -it has no bearing on the racism problems that run so deeply in society
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Well it shows what a total hypocrite he is
the brass neck of the man
Well it shows what a total hypocrite he is
the brass neck of the man
That’s a different discussion
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Mystic Mock
18-11-2021, 10:05 PM
Tbf at least he hasn't urinated on someone's head just because they're Jewish.
thesheriff443
18-11-2021, 10:16 PM
Tbf at least he hasn't urinated on someone's head just because they're Jewish.
What a piss head
Mystic Mock
18-11-2021, 11:02 PM
What a piss head
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Very good.
Crimson Dynamo
18-11-2021, 11:31 PM
No I guess hating Jews in isn't as bad as hating brown people
Mystic Mock
19-11-2021, 01:18 AM
No I guess hating Jews in isn't as bad as hating brown people
They're both bad imo, it's imo one has actions taking place whilst the other is words from a 19 year old at the time.
Both are bad, but I personally just take more offence to the urination aspect of the former.
Crimson Dynamo
19-11-2021, 10:36 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Interesting to see Azeem Rafiq’s anti-Semitic slurs barely get a mention on any front page in a week when his own revelations of anti-Asian racism made many P1 headlines. Why is one form of racism involving the same man deemed less newsworthy than another?</p>— Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) <a href="https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1461629398814232580?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Not sure what's so difficult for Piers to understand, if Rafiq was the only individual affected by the racism he described than the two might be equivalent; but he wasn't. The whole reason its a story is that it revealed a racism in cricket that will have affected countless Asian players over the years
arista
21-11-2021, 11:55 AM
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Livia
21-11-2021, 12:15 PM
Azeem Rafiq has apologised and said he is "deeply ashamed" for using anti-Semitic language in messages from 2011.
Former spinner Rafiq has spoken of his experiences of racism and bullying at Yorkshire and appeared at a Digital, Culture, Media and Sport select committee this week.
The 30-year-old said he had "absolutely no excuses" for the messages.
"I am incredibly angry at myself and apologise to the Jewish community," he said in a statement.
Rafiq said he had deleted the messages to not cause further offence.
"I have absolutely no excuses. I am ashamed of this exchange," he said.
"I was 19 at the time and hope and believe I am a different person today."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59338118
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Boohoohoo... they called me nasty names and the P word!
But yeah, ******* the Jews, right?
1461478152874639365Got his orders to do less of the hand movement by the authoritarian minded lady. Sorry sweetheart, but in this country we can make whatever hand movements we like.
He's perfectly right of course. Deal with the people who were being racist and stop trying to project it on to a society as a whole. That panel knew that, the MPs know that, but they do it anyway because like Mr Peterson says, "it divides people" and a divided people makes them more powerful.
Mystic Mock
21-11-2021, 09:27 PM
Got his orders to do less of the hand movement by the authoritarian minded lady. Sorry sweetheart, but in this country we can make whatever hand movements we like.
He's perfectly right of course. Deal with the people who were being racist and stop trying to project it on to a society as a whole. That panel knew that, the MPs know that, but they do it anyway because like Mr Peterson says, "it divides people" and a divided people makes them more powerful.
It's true that the Governments around the world love division within society as it's easier for our dear leaders to get away with doing certain policies that they'd never get away with if society as a whole was more united.
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