Cancel Culture could Wipe Out Comedy says Maureen Lipman

[arista]

[Maureen Lipman has said comedy
is in danger of being "wiped out" due
to fears over being cancelled.
She told the BBC she believes comedians
are now so worried about offending,
"a revolution" is taking place.
"It's in the balance whether we will
ever be funny again," she said.
Her comments come as more than
half of Britons say they have stopped
themselves from expressing political
and social views for fear of being judged.

A YouGov poll seen exclusively by the
BBC found 57% of those asked said
they censor themselves on issues
including immigration and trans rights,
particularly if their views are deemed
at the less politically correct end of
the spectrum.

YouGov questioned 1,677 people
in mid November to find out their
views on what's become known
as "cancel culture".

It is a term, first used in the USA,
to describe attempts to block or
"cancel" people or groups with
certain viewpoints.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59703257


Yes many are not able to stop
Online Gangs from attacking their comedy.

[Alf]

Our Maureen speaking sense. A Hull lass through and through.

[Nicky91]

:umm2: no


they don't ''cancel'' anyone, they just cancel any inappropriate content (certain things you just cannot make jokes about)

but if that sort of content is your only content then it exposes you for being a lacklustre wannabe comedian :fan:


since any good and talented comedian has a diverse ranges of jokes material

[Beso]

Who decides what's inappropriate nicky?

[arista]

Our Maureen speaking sense. A Hull lass through and through.



Yes give her a Talk Show.

[Kazanne]

Our Maureen speaking sense. A Hull lass through and through.

:clap1::clap1:Good for her

[Mystic Mock]

Comedy is largely wiped out nowadays imo.

Brooklyn Nine-Nine was probably the last Show I can think of that was actually funny, god knows how stand-up Comedy is holding up.

The problem with Comedy at the moment is that people on the right and left take offence to jokes far too easily.

[Crimson Dynamo]

We now get our comedy from our politicians

[Mystic Mock]

We now get our comedy from our politicians

That's more like Horror imo.

[Alf]

I remember when you used to look forward to seeing the new Only fools and horses Christmas special on Christmas day, it was an event in itself. 20+ million would tune in to watch. There's nothing comes anywhere near as close to that now. The Royle Family did bring that back to an extent for a short period but there's been nothing since.

I can’t believe that great comedy writers are no longer out there, I just think they're not given a chance if the write something funny but their face doesn't fit. It's probably because the heads of television are all box ticking middle and upper class university educated types and don't have a clue what the working classes want.

[Nicky91]

I remember when you used to look forward to seeing the new Only fools and horses Christmas special on Christmas day, it was an event in itself. 20+ million would tune in to watch. There's nothing comes anywhere near as close to that now. The Royle Family did bring that back to an extent for a short period but there's been nothing since.

I can’t believe that great comedy writers are no longer out there, I just think they're not given a chance if the write something funny but their face doesn't fit. It's probably because the heads of television are all box ticking middle and upper class university educated types and don't have a clue what the working classes want.

as if any show got 20 million viewers or more :laugh:


there never have been 20 million people in the uk watching tv so

[Alf]

as if any show got 20 million viewers or more :laugh:


there never have been 20 million people in the uk watching tv soOnly fools and horses Christmas special 1996 (I think) episode called Time on our hands. 24.35m viewers.

Google it to prove yourself wrong, again.

[Crimson Dynamo]

2 doors down Xmas special (iplayer) was excellent this year and had no wokieness or PC bollocks

seek it out

[arista]

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[bots]

everyone is expected to be miserable these days. Misery is forced down our throats in 1 form or another every single day of the year. I dread to think what peoples mental health will be like in 10+ years

[Nicky91]

everyone is expected to be miserable these days. Misery is forced down our throats in 1 form or another every single day of the year. I dread to think what peoples mental health will be like in 10+ years

umm no, stop overreacting :rolleyes:

[Nicky91]

imagine certain people finding racist, sexist, homophobic/transphobic jokes even funny

:umm2:


yes everyone is allowed a freedom of speech, but jokes need to remain genuinely funny and what stand up comedy is, light-hearted entertainment in which insulting jokes have no place


and if you use your stand up comedy platform to express your serious opinions, well you're at the wrong place, because then you should join talk shows :fan:

[Alf]

imagine certain people finding racist, sexist, homophobic/transphobic jokes even funny

:umm2:


yes everyone is allowed a freedom of speech, but jokes need to remain genuinely funny and what stand up comedy is, light-hearted entertainment in which insulting jokes have no place


and if you use your stand up comedy platform to express your serious opinions, well you're at the wrong place, because then you should join talk shows :fan:People find them funny because those things are being ridiculed, made a mockery of. They're saying, just look at at stupid and ridiculous racists are. The fact people are against that does make me wonder if you're a racist that doesn't like being ridiculed.

[Nicky91]

People find them funny because those things are being ridiculed, made a mockery of. They're saying, just look at at stupid and ridiculous racists are. The fact people are against that does make me wonder if you're a racist that doesn't like being ridiculed.

stuff like racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia are a very serious problem of the world though


not to make fun or laugh about

[Alf]

stuff like racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia are a very serious problem of the world though


not to make fun or laugh aboutAll the more reason to mock and ridicule those of you that are those things.

We either spend our lives laughing at life and being joyful or we spend our lives crying at everything and feeling depressed and suicidal.

[Nicky91]

All the more reason to mock and ridicule those of you that are those things.

We either spend our lives laughing at life and being joyful or we spend our lives crying at everything and feeling depressed and suicidal.

i have a good sense of humour though, and i am most definitely not depressed or suicidal

:idc:

[Denver]

Alot of comedy has a lot of racist, homophobic and sexiest tendencies and we have moved away from that and as recent comedies have shown you don't actually need those things to be funny

[bots]

i dont like being told what i should or should not find funny

[Jordan.]

Alot of comedy has a lot of racist, homophobic and sexiest tendencies and we have moved away from that and as recent comedies have shown you don't actually need those things to be funny

The smart comedians will adapt with the times.

[Livia]

i dont like being told what i should or should not find funny

Me neither. Young people are so authoritarian, and this is surely fuelled by them, and if you don't agree with them, you're a bigot.

[Liam-]

Oh, are people still pretending that comedians aren’t allowed to tell jokes?

[smudgie]

We should all be able to have the choice.
Turn something off if it’s the tv or don’t go to a show that you think will offend you.

[Oliver_W]

Little Britain getting yeeted from existence shows how right she is.

[arista]

Oh, are people still pretending that comedians aren’t allowed to tell jokes?



On interviews
they have said it.

[rusticgal]

I mean a lot of comic material is basically taking the piss out of someone or something...often a joke at someones expense or a pop at the Irish The Scottish..the English...The Welsh....or taking the piss out of womens behaviour or mens behaviour. Its been going on for years...thats the comical factor. If you cant laugh at yourself if you fall into any of the catagories then you lack a sense of humour....and if you dont like it...turn it off.

[Alf]

The Golden age


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[arista]

The Golden age


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Yes What a Great Black actor.

[Mystic Mock]

everyone is expected to be miserable these days. Misery is forced down our throats in 1 form or another every single day of the year. I dread to think what peoples mental health will be like in 10+ years

I would agree with this.

Even when you go to tune into something that's meant to be lighthearted like Sky Sports News, it instead turns into a Covid discussion for 18 hours of the day, racist abuse for about 3 hours of the day, and then finally what I am guessing everyone is tuning into the Channel for which is the Sports themselves get about 3 hours too.

I miss the 00's and early 10's where if you wanted to watch something serious you had to seek it out rather than it being forced down my throat like nowadays does.

[Mystic Mock]

stuff like racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia are a very serious problem of the world though


not to make fun or laugh about

Tbf if you banned a lot of those jokes then Family Guy wouldn't be half the programme that it was imo.

And btw Seth MacFarlane is far from a racist, he uses his Shows to highlight the flaws with viewpoints like racism & homophobia, he just presents these issues in a humorous way to stop the audience from feeling preached at.

[Mystic Mock]

I mean a lot of comic material is basically taking the piss out of someone or something...often a joke at someones expense or a pop at the Irish The Scottish..the English...The Welsh....or taking the piss out of womens behaviour or mens behaviour. Its been going on for years...thats the comical factor. If you cant laugh at yourself if you fall into any of the catagories then you lack a sense of humour....and if you dont like it...turn it off.

100% this.

[Nicky91]

The Golden age


JbfoSX2YRA8

more like the age where people with own opinions were silenced, where racist humour was shoved down everyone's throats

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tbf if you banned a lot of those jokes then Family Guy wouldn't be half the programme that it was imo.

And btw Seth MacFarlane is far from a racist, he uses his Shows to highlight the flaws with viewpoints like racism & homophobia, he just presents these issues in a humorous way to stop the audience from feeling preached at.

Great point Mock and its just the same as what the writers were doing with Alf Garnet in the 70s

[Nicky91]

Great point Mock and its just the same as what the writers were doing with Alf Garnet in the 70s

Seth has got genuine talent, something what that creep Alf Garnet didn't have

[Crimson Dynamo]

Seth has got genuine talent, something what that creep Alf Garnet didn't have

Alf Garnet is a fictional character

:facepalm:

[Nicky91]

Alf Garnet is a fictional character

:facepalm:

by some unknown talentless lame wannabe actor :laugh3:

[thesheriff443]

If you look at a program like you’ve been framed, it’s actually people having accidents with most getting hurt

Millions have laughed at someone getting hurt.

Real racists real sexist’s real homophobic people don’t laugh at jokes

[Oliver_W]

I mean a lot of comic material is basically taking the piss out of someone or something...often a joke at someones expense or a pop at the Irish The Scottish..the English...The Welsh....or taking the piss out of womens behaviour or mens behaviour. Its been going on for years...thats the comical factor. If you cant laugh at yourself if you fall into any of the catagories then you lack a sense of humour....and if you dont like it...turn it off.

In the mid-aughts to early teens "we" seemed to collectively understand that taking the piss out of each other is completely harmless, and that in most cases those telling the jokes don't really think the things they're saying.

Comedy has completely lost its teeth in recent years.

That said, my favourite currently running comedy is Not Going Out, and that's just quickfire silly jokes and wordplay. The only thing remotely "problematic" about it is that the cast is all white, but even that's because they're all an extended family.

[arista]

more like the age where people with own opinions were silenced, where racist humour was shoved down everyone's throats



It was the early 1970's


All changed now

[Captain.Remy]

Alot of comedy has a lot of racist, homophobic and sexiest tendencies and we have moved away from that and as recent comedies have shown you don't actually need those things to be funny

Exactly! And if you needed to resort to racism, homophobia and sexism to call yourself a comedian, then you were never funny in the first place. So at that point, it's one less cringe comedian out there. The good ones know how to adapt.

[arista]

Nice to see
Capt Remy
the old crew

[Mystic Mock]

Great point Mock and its just the same as what the writers were doing with Alf Garnet in the 70s

I'll take your word for it as a lot of Comedies liked to do that sort of thing until recently.

[Nicky91]

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me at people who call us woke or cancel culture

ur venomous poison

[Nicky91]

take away Lipman's damehood too please, ungrateful nasty sour woman

they should all have a career like hers :idc:

[Mystic Mock]

Exactly! And if you needed to resort to racism, homophobia and sexism to call yourself a comedian, then you were never funny in the first place. So at that point, it's one less cringe comedian out there. The good ones know how to adapt.

I think when it comes to Comedies touching prejudice as a topic is that it is all about the intent.

Like another example that I'd give is Eric Cartman in South Park, a hugely popular character for the Show who is every kind of ist or ism known to mankind, but it's clear that the Show's intent is to laugh at Cartman than with Cartman because the Show understands that his views are horrific in general, but imo is a fun character to watch.

One of the reasons why I find not just Comedy but TV in general so dull nowadays is because characters are too sanitised in what they can and can't do in terms of content.

I'm going off on a tangent here I know, but I watched Angel I think last year now, and some of the things that get said and actually happen in that programme would never get made today, but in some areas it would make the Show far less interesting to me at least.

Personally speaking if a Show came out tomorrow attacking white people in a serious manner I'd just not watch the programme, I don't understand this culture of wanting to censor everything.