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arista
29-12-2021, 10:10 PM
Around 20 to 40 years or more in prison, is due.


Sentencing is due in some weeks time.



NYC Sky Reporter outside the Court.

SkyNewsHD Live

https://news.sky.com/story/ghislaine-maxwell-found-guilty-of-sex-trafficking-charges-12501445



[Maxwell was convicted on five of the six counts
she was charged with.
She was accused of recruiting and grooming four
teenagers for Epstein between 1994 and 2004.
The trial lasted 13 days, including 10 days for the
prosecution case and two days for the defence,
and heard from 33 witnesses.
The prosecution said Maxwell had recruited teenage girls
and served them up to Epstein on a platter to be abused.]

bots
29-12-2021, 11:11 PM
yep, i'm glad this is the outcome. Now Andrew must be shaking in his boots

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Mystic Mock
30-12-2021, 12:30 AM
Well at least there's some good news coming as we're nearing the Season Finale.

rusticgal
30-12-2021, 12:30 AM
That’s great news….how she ever thought she might get off it just astounds me.

rusticgal
30-12-2021, 12:32 AM
yep, i'm glad this is the outcome. Now Andrew must be shaking in his boots

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….and so he should be.

arista
30-12-2021, 07:17 AM
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30-12-2021, 07:18 AM
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30-12-2021, 07:19 AM
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30-12-2021, 07:19 AM
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30-12-2021, 07:20 AM
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arista
30-12-2021, 07:35 AM
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arista
30-12-2021, 10:02 AM
Lammy MP
Live on LBC debating Women
getting caught up in this.



His First Debate
he can bogg off

Zizu
30-12-2021, 10:28 AM
I hope she is terrorised in prison whilst she rots away her dying days ...

On a side note .... the news clips mention that many of those poor girls were as young as 13 !!!

So where on earth where their parents when the girls were being seduced and flown around the world ... I’m confused on this point

Niamh.
30-12-2021, 11:04 AM
I hope they got names from her too, no doubt the richest and most powerful of them will get away with it though

Vicky.
30-12-2021, 12:54 PM
I hope they got names from her too, no doubt the richest and most powerful of them will get away with it though

Of course.

This is good news but lets not assume those guilty will be punished. Besides her.

I know thats grim but lets be realistic.

bots
30-12-2021, 01:30 PM
I don't see her being alive for long in prison and her prison sentence may get a big reduction if she spills the beans so thats got to be her play now. The question is, how quickly can the big names bump her off

Crimson Dynamo
30-12-2021, 02:54 PM
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arista
30-12-2021, 04:15 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/30/15/52377015-0-image-m-6_1640879858112.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10355847/The-mystery-Maxwells-millions-Socialite-claimed-just-2-6m-name.html


[The mystery of Maxwell's millions:
Sex-trafficker socialite claimed she had
'just' £2.6m to her name
when she was arrested last year despite
being wired £22m by Epstein - amid claims she
transferred wealth to tech CEO husband
Forensic accountants believe Ghislaine Maxwell
had a net worth of £15million ($20.2million) in 2015
But she claimed this was down to just £2.6million
by the time she was arrested in New Hampshire in 2020
Maxwell reportedly transferred £15million
to her husband Scott Borgerson after they secretly married
She also allegedly bought and sold multiple
mansions and high-value homes between
2015 and 2020]

GoldHeart
30-12-2021, 05:10 PM
That’s great news….how she ever thought she might get off it just astounds me.

She probably thought she could blame everything on Epstein, that's usually how people like her think... especially when it's partners.

bots
30-12-2021, 06:35 PM
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if this were a rare event it would be unusual, but it's not

Mystic Mock
30-12-2021, 07:07 PM
She probably thought she could blame everything on Epstein, that's usually how people like her think... especially when it's partners.

That plan might've worked if she hadn't been the one recruiting these girls to the island.

GoldHeart
30-12-2021, 08:13 PM
That plan might've worked if she hadn't been the one recruiting these girls to the island.

Yeah there's no getting away from that , but people like her try to play victim. I'm reminded of Myra Hindley.

Zizu
30-12-2021, 08:31 PM
I hope they got names from her too, no doubt the richest and most powerful of them will get away with it though


I’d imagine that she will sing like a canary to get a more lenient sentence IF her appeal fails


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Zizu
30-12-2021, 08:32 PM
I don't see her being alive for long in prison and her prison sentence may get a big reduction if she spills the beans so thats got to be her play now. The question is, how quickly can the big names bump her off


She’s also got to avoid the other prisoners


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Mystic Mock
30-12-2021, 11:13 PM
Yeah there's no getting away from that , but people like her try to play victim. I'm reminded of Myra Hindley.

I remember Anthony Hutton having to deal with her on BB.:joker:

Seriously though I agree with what you've said.

GoldHeart
31-12-2021, 01:05 AM
I remember Anthony Hutton having to deal with her on BB.:joker:

Seriously though I agree with what you've said.

Yeah that wig Craig wore was ridiculous , I've never forgotten it lol .

Mystic Mock
31-12-2021, 01:34 AM
Yeah that wig Craig wore was ridiculous , I've never forgotten it lol .

It's one of my favourite moments of BB6.:laugh:

Niamh.
31-12-2021, 01:37 AM
She’s also got to avoid the other prisoners


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProEspecially in a woman's prison, a lot these women will have been abused themselves and have kids, she will not be popular

Zizu
31-12-2021, 01:41 AM
Especially in a woman's prison, a lot these women will have been abused themselves and have kids, she will not be popular


Especially those who are missing their daughters


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Niamh.
31-12-2021, 01:46 AM
Especially those who are missing their daughters


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProYep. Absolute scum, I just hope that black book surfaces at some point too but I think Maxwell is the one taking the fall for the whole disgusting operation. Those girls deserve more tbh and she deserves to fall but so do so many others

Zizu
31-12-2021, 03:17 AM
Yep. Absolute scum, I just hope that black book surfaces at some point too but I think Maxwell is the one taking the fall for the whole disgusting operation. Those girls deserve more tbh and she deserves to fall but so do so many others


There was an eminent US prosecutor interviewed last night and she touched on the subject of the plea bargaining process.

She said that the woman hadn’t shown any interest in that option yet and she would need to offer up a big name or three to get her sentence reduced or waived ....

I then thought of Prince bladdy Andrew !!!


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Niamh.
31-12-2021, 04:51 AM
There was an eminent US prosecutor interviewed last night and she touched on the subject of the plea bargaining process.

She said that the woman hadn’t shown any interest in that option yet and she would need to offer up a big name or three to get her sentence reduced or waived ....

I then thought of Prince bladdy Andrew !!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProShe probably knows she'd get "Epstein-ed" if she gives up anyone that high up. These guys are always protected

Nicky91
31-12-2021, 08:17 AM
good riddance that this ugly woman is guilty

thesheriff443
31-12-2021, 08:24 AM
Prisons in America and around the world, if you have money and connections you can get virtually anything.

Nicky91
31-12-2021, 08:26 AM
Prisons in America and around the world, if you have money and connections you can get virtually anything.

strip her of that money and connections

give her no food or water either


let her rot, and then after this life she will hopefully rot further in hell where she also belongs, worst of the worst criminal on this planet is what she is

thesheriff443
31-12-2021, 08:28 AM
strip her of that money and connections

give her no food or water either


let her rot, and then after this life she will hopefully rot further in hell where she also belongs, worst of the worst criminal on this planet is what she is

That’s not being very Christian Nicky especially at Christmas

Nicky91
31-12-2021, 08:32 AM
That’s not being very Christian Nicky especially at Christmas

christmas is over

and i don't celebrate new years eve, what is there to celebrate in this ****** up world

thesheriff443
31-12-2021, 08:34 AM
christmas is over

and i don't celebrate new years eve, what is there to celebrate in this ****** up world

Celebrate being alive, do you know how many people fight for one more breath

Oliver_W
31-12-2021, 10:23 AM
I hope they got names from her too, no doubt the richest and most powerful of them will get away with it though

Of course.

This is good news but lets not assume those guilty will be punished. Besides her.

I know thats grim but lets be realistic.

Also it's a bit ridic that even the lower ends of her estimated sentence are longer than what most blokes found guilty of actually raping get..

Niamh.
31-12-2021, 11:11 AM
Also it's a bit ridic that even the lower ends of her estimated sentence are longer than what most blokes found guilty of actually raping get..Yup....

bots
31-12-2021, 11:15 AM
this is american justice which just isnt comparable to the uk

Niamh.
31-12-2021, 11:27 AM
this is american justice which just isnt comparable to the ukYeah, worse police but better justice I think [emoji848]

bots
31-12-2021, 11:35 AM
Yeah, worse police but better justice I think [emoji848]

they built loads of mega prisons and have them privately run for profit, it's the american way :laugh:

we have old crappy over crowded prisons, so we just cant handle justice the same way. If we had the space, i can guarantee more people would be locked up for longer sentences.

Beso
31-12-2021, 11:44 AM
Burn the witch.

Niamh.
31-12-2021, 11:45 AM
they built loads of mega prisons and have them privately run for profit, it's the american way [emoji23]



we have old crappy over crowded prisons, so we just cant handle justice the same way. If we had the space, i can guarantee more people would be locked up for longer sentences.Well, I don't know about British justice for sexual abuse victims but its piss poor in Ireland. If you don't pay your TV Licence your ****ed though

user104658
31-12-2021, 12:16 PM
I do have somewhat mixed feelings about this. Obviously her activities are unthinkable and she is rightly being locked up, presumably for the rest of her life, that part is absolutely the correct outcome. My worry though is that in terms of "justice" this will be seen as "an end to it" and the countless rich and powerful men who were raping those trafficked girls will simply get away with it. It would have been Epstein to take the bulk of the fall but - having seen a few documentaries with interviews with him - I can see why he was ultimately deemed "unsuitable". I think he would eventually have talked if he thought he could get a better outcome for himself and have been protected. Maxwell clearly knows the real score (that she can't talk ever).

I suspect names will start trickling out in several decades' time... Once they're all dead and buried and have ultimately escaped justice.

Niamh.
31-12-2021, 12:32 PM
Yeah exactly what I was getting at TS, there's so many guilty party's here, not just Maxwell and Epstein

bots
31-12-2021, 12:36 PM
to me it's all a bit chicken and egg. Was the supply of young girls initiated by the rich paying money for anything they want illegal or not or the trafficking gang. Ultimately, i believe there wouldnt have been a trafficking gang if it wasn't worth the return it generated, so, by definition, the likes of Andrew, Clinton and Trump bear the ultimate responsibility. They used the service and therefore made it viable. Quite how that translates to criminal behaviour is what needs to be proven, which should be perfectly possible if there is the will to do it. I think with the environment now, criminal proceedings are more likely than at any time in the past, i'm just not sure if it's yet reached the time for it to become a reality

user104658
31-12-2021, 12:49 PM
to me it's all a bit chicken and egg. Was the supply of young girls initiated by the rich paying money for anything they want illegal or not or the trafficking gang. Ultimately, i believe there wouldnt have been a trafficking gang if it wasn't worth the return it generated, so, by definition, the likes of Andrew, Clinton and Trump bear the ultimate responsibility. They used the service and therefore made it viable. Quite how that translates to criminal behaviour is what needs to be proven, which should be perfectly possible if there is the will to do it. I think with the environment now, criminal proceedings are more likely than at any time in the past, i'm just not sure if it's yet reached the time for it to become a reality

I suspect none of it is entirely "about" the young girls, it seems to me that what they offered was a full hedonistic "package" for the ultra-rich that most likely included all sorts of things with varying degrees of legality and they made an absolute fortune from it. The access to these young girls was just one of the "perks" of what they offered which in some ways makes it even more disgusting. No doubt the main draw for many of them. There will be others who didn't touch the girls. Though that's largely irrelevant - at the very least, everyone involved knew what was happening whether it was with them or not. Happy to turn a blind eye. That entire world is full of it.

Niamh.
31-12-2021, 12:56 PM
Although it's probably accurate TS, it's such an awful description like these girls were objects, products, non humans, its so sickening which us exactly why it shouldn't be just Maxwell, so so so many other ogres need to be held accountable for this

Zizu
31-12-2021, 01:14 PM
That’s not being very Christian Nicky especially at Christmas


To be fair I don’t think many people are too concerned about her wellbeing .

I thought it was laughable to hear her brother complaining about her being kept in cramp conditions where she’s been detained


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Zizu
31-12-2021, 01:41 PM
Although it's probably accurate TS, it's such an awful description like these girls were objects, products, non humans, its so sickening which us exactly why it shouldn't be just Maxwell, so so so many other ogres need to be held accountable for this


It’s sickening how this woman ‘seduced’ those poor girls into believing they were going to have a lovely time and then she’d push them into a bedroom to be violently raped ... then she smiled at them as they came out of the bedroom


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bots
31-12-2021, 01:44 PM
She actively participated on several occasions too, which makes her very much a sexual predator.

Vanessa
31-12-2021, 04:56 PM
I find it hard to feel sorry for her.
Because some of the victims were as young as 13.
This is awful!

Niamh.
31-12-2021, 06:20 PM
I don't think anyone feels sorry for her Vanessa

Alf
31-12-2021, 09:54 PM
Time for the rich and powerful to be put where they belong for their crimes.

It only happens if we the people demand it. If we let them get away with it, then they'll accept our offer and will get away with it.

Now, forget about all this and place your attention on something else. What you think about Covid?

Alf
31-12-2021, 09:57 PM
So, the woman has rightfully gone to prison but what about all those other men and women that went to the Island? Are they all innocent? Are the authorities doing their job?

Zizu
31-12-2021, 10:08 PM
Time for the rich and powerful to be put where they belong for their crimes.

It only happens if we the people demand it. If we let them get away with it, then they'll accept our offer and will get away with it.

Now, forget about all this and place your attention on something else. What you think about Covid?


I agree Alf ..


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arista
07-01-2022, 01:58 AM
BBC Text :
[Second juror in the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell
has said they were a victim of abuse earlier
in their life - as an inquiry continues into the
validity of the guilty verdicts.]

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Mystic Mock
07-01-2022, 02:08 AM
christmas is over

and i don't celebrate new years eve, what is there to celebrate in this ****** up world

If you're feeling low like this Nicky you might wanna consider maybe taking a break from the Internet to get away from stories of this nature for a bit.

I know that I have to do it sometimes as it can psychologically mess you up reading info on these crimes avidly.

I hope that you're doing okay since it's turned to New Yar.

Mystic Mock
07-01-2022, 02:12 AM
they built loads of mega prisons and have them privately run for profit, it's the american way :laugh:

we have old crappy over crowded prisons, so we just cant handle justice the same way. If we had the space, i can guarantee more people would be locked up for longer sentences.

What I don't get in the UK is why we don't only have our Prisons for Murderers, Rapists & Paedophiles (or MAPS if we go with the PC term) whilst every other crime gets Community Service, but that's just my opinion I guess.

Cherie
07-01-2022, 11:38 AM
Bit odd isn't it that one of the jurors had experienced sexual abuse, thought that question would have been top of the list when they culled the jurors..she might get a mistrial now :suspect:

user104658
07-01-2022, 12:12 PM
Bit odd isn't it that one of the jurors had experienced sexual abuse, thought that question would have been top of the list when they culled the jurors..she might get a mistrial now :suspect:

Sadly, not really, because the number of women who have experienced sexual abuse or assault at some point in their life is staggeringly high.

But I guess saying "no one with any experience of abuse is allowed" is one way to ensure that you get a jury stacked with well-off blokes who have no idea what they're looking at and would have little empathy even if they did.

Zizu
07-01-2022, 12:29 PM
Bit odd isn't it that one of the jurors had experienced sexual abuse, thought that question would have been top of the list when they culled the jurors..she might get a mistrial now :suspect:


Yep ... unbelievable isn’t it ..


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Cherie
07-01-2022, 12:32 PM
Sadly, not really, because the number of women who have experienced sexual abuse or assault at some point in their life is staggeringly high.

But I guess saying "no one with any experience of abuse is allowed" is one way to ensure that you get a jury stacked with well-off blokes who have no idea what they're looking at and would have little empathy even if they did.

I got the impression it was a male?

Zizu
07-01-2022, 12:33 PM
What I don't get in the UK is why we don't only have our Prisons for Murderers, Rapists & Paedophiles (or MAPS if we go with the PC term) whilst every other crime gets Community Service, but that's just my opinion I guess.


Yep ... I’d go with that .. maybe have the less serious cases doing some useful physical work as a penance


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Cherie
07-01-2022, 12:36 PM
Yes it was a male juror

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10378335/Ghislaine-Maxwell-juror-wrongly-told-court-NOT-sexual-assault-victim-revealed.html

Cherie
07-01-2022, 12:37 PM
Yep ... unbelievable isn’t it ..


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He allegedly put No on the questionnaire, sounds well dodgy, he might have been paid off

Coming back to selecting the jury I am no expert but in a case like this I would have thought anyone who experienced sexual assault would not be allowed to sit on the jury

Niamh.
07-01-2022, 12:40 PM
He allegedly put No on the questionnaire, sounds well dodgy, he might have been paid off

Everything connected to this case sticks of corruption and cover ups.

joeysteele
07-01-2022, 12:41 PM
What I don't get in the UK is why we don't only have our Prisons for Murderers, Rapists & Paedophiles (or MAPS if we go with the PC term) whilst every other crime gets Community Service, but that's just my opinion I guess.

It's not just your opinion as Neither do I Mock.
I agree with all you've said.
Really strong points.

Only those who commit violence, destruction, murders, and sex offences too.
Are who I'd use prisons for.
Any who may be deemed a physical threat to any other.

Muggers can at times walk free from Courts while someone stealing something gets locked up.
Bonkers.

Alf
07-01-2022, 03:13 PM
Everything connected to this case sticks of corruption and cover ups.Brought to you by the same people that brought you the Covid pandemic.

GoldHeart
07-01-2022, 06:24 PM
It's not just your opinion as Neither do I Mock.
I agree with all you've said.
Really strong points.

Only those who commit violence, destruction, murders, and sex offences too.
Are who I'd use prisons for.
Any who may be deemed a physical threat to any other.

Muggers can at times walk free from Courts while someone stealing something gets locked up.
Bonkers.

The system is messed up .

You could kill or abuse someone and only get a year,you could Rob a bank and get life .. it's stupid :bored: .

Zizu
07-01-2022, 06:45 PM
Brought to you by the same people that brought you the Covid pandemic.


China ?
:)


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Crimson Dynamo
07-01-2022, 07:04 PM
He allegedly put No on the questionnaire, sounds well dodgy, he might have been paid off

Coming back to selecting the jury I am no expert but in a case like this I would have thought anyone who experienced sexual assault would not be allowed to sit on the jury

must be the same guy picking the jury for the 4 Bristol scumbag vandals

arista
16-01-2022, 03:49 AM
Ghislaine Maxwell will be sentenced on 28 June


https://news.sky.com/story/ghislaine-maxwell-to-be-sentenced-end-of-june-as-defence-continues-to-call-for-re-trial-12516321

Alf
21-02-2022, 11:13 AM
Another one apparently hung himself in his cell. I wonder if the CCTV was working this time?


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Alf
22-02-2022, 09:47 AM
Tell em' George.

But Russia.



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Alf
22-02-2022, 11:37 AM
Does anyone think its a tiny bit suspicious that another person involved with all this sex trafficking hung himself in his prison cell and just like with Epstein the security camaras stopped working?

Or do you think it's all fairly normal and we should just forget about it and move on?

user104658
22-02-2022, 11:42 AM
A) suspicious that another person involved with all this sex trafficking hung himself in his prison cell and just like with Epstein the security camaras stopped working

B) all fairly normal and we should just forget about it and move on?

C) All of the above.

bots
22-02-2022, 12:51 PM
there is not a lot anyone can do about it unless there is some factual evidence

Cherie
22-02-2022, 01:48 PM
obviously it all looks a little dodgy

user104658
22-02-2022, 01:54 PM
obviously it all looks a little dodgy

Of course it is but that's what I mean with my post... it's dodgy as **** but we're talking the wealthy elite and politically powerful. "Dodgy as ****" IS "normal" :joker:

bots
01-04-2022, 09:53 PM
Her appeal has been turned down, the verdict stands

arista
17-06-2022, 08:59 AM
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