Prince Andrew is no longer HRH

[arista]

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[rusticgal]

Tragic…

[arista]

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[Niamh.]

Charles revenge for the singing trout plaque

[GoldHeart]

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awww poor Andrew
Lets all weep.... if the tears will come for this privileged wealthy pervert's problem :idc: .

[jet]

He should move into Frogmore Cottage, it's sitting there empty since H&M don't use it or need it. :hee:

[arista]

He should move into Frogmore Cottage, it's sitting there empty since H&M don't use it or need it. :hee:


Yes, stick him in that place

[thesheriff443]

He should move into Frogmore Cottage, it's sitting there empty since H&M don't use it or need it. :hee:

They renewed the lease on it

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/04/09/11/69638389-11953967-image-a-18_1681035593426.jpg

At the back end of the Proper Royals,
Andrew out and about, today.


Sad for Princess Ann who was stuck with him.

[arista]

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You Poxy Bugger
move out of that Property
Do what the King has Asked of you.



[The Duke of York is refusing to leave his home
during building works for fear he
'might never get back in'.
It comes amid a stand-off between himself
and his brother King Charles,
who is keen for Prince Andrew to quit
his long-term Windsor home Royal Lodge
in plans to scale down the monarchy.

The royal, who no longer has official duties
after being forced to quit over
the Jeffrey Epstein scandal,
shares the 30-room, £30million mansion
with just his ex-wife Sarah, Duchess of York]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183645/Prince-Andrew-refuses-leave-Royal-Lodge-building-works-case-hes-evicted.html

[arista]

BBC News Text :
[King plans to bring his brother Prince Andrew
"in from the cold" according to the Daily Express.
The paper says King Charles has offered
his "disgraced" brother an "olive branch" by
inviting him to the Royal Family's
Balmoral estate in the Scottish highlands,
which sources say indicates "relations between
the pair have improved greatly".]


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[Gusto Brunt]

Anyone know what Andrew does all day?

[arista]

Anyone know what Andrew does all day?


He marches around his house
in his Military Uniform.

[Niamh.]

He marches around his house
in his Military Uniform.

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[thesheriff443]

He marches around his house
in his Military Uniform.

Have you been a guest of his arista?

[bots]

all the royals have always been invited to balmoral, it's a tradition. It's hardly bringing him in from the cold

[Crimson Dynamo]

He marches around his house
in his Military Uniform.

good exercise

[arista]

Have you been a guest of his arista?


No

[user104658]

Anyone know what Andrew does all day?

Teenagers.

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... Allegedly.

[Cherie]

He marches around his house
in his Military Uniform.

:joker:

bit like myself

[arista]

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[arista]

All Files on Prince Andrew
are now to be locked away, 2065

He would be aged 105 then

Due to a special dispensation, the Royals get.


GMBHD itv reports

[Niamh.]

All Files on Prince Andrew
are now to be locked away, 2065

He would be aged 105 then

Due to a special dispensation, the Royals get.


GMBHD itv reports

Disgraceful

[arista]

Disgraceful


But Typical
Protected Royals

[joeysteele]

Really typical.
However it is and should be wrong

[user104658]

My thoughts are, if there was nothing to hide they wouldn't be locking them away. So I don't particularly think we need to know the specifics of what's in them to make a judgement call.

[Niamh.]

Really typical.
However it is and should be wrong

Indeed. Imagine if that rule applied to Politicians? What's the difference here?

[bots]

it's just another example of the unwarranted privilege that the royal family has over the common folk

It's basically a super injunction with zero cost or justification

[jet]

It says in the article that

'any files involving British royalty are sealed away under lock and key until 105 years from that member's birth'.

Not just Andrew's then.

[user104658]

It says in the article that

'any files involving British royalty are sealed away under lock and key until 105 years from that member's birth'.

Not just Andrew's then.

Perched for April 2031? :joker:

"She actually liked murdering puppies!"

[jet]

Perched for April 2031? :joker:

"She actually liked murdering puppies!"

:hee:

The files contain in detail the Royals working activities; their charities, oversea’s trips, head of State visits, their correspondence and dealings with the Government, security matters etc, not each individual's personal attributes or failings.

[user104658]

:hee:

The files contain in detail the Royals working activities; their charities, oversea’s trips, head of State visits, their correspondence and dealings with the Government, security matters etc, not each individual's personal attributes or failings.

Unless they're Andrew in which case they contain his little black book, containing direct personal contact details for celebrity child sex traffickers.

[jet]

Unless they're Andrew in which case they contain his little black book, containing direct personal contact details for celebrity child sex traffickers.

You wish :laugh:

[user104658]

You wish :laugh:

You don't think he had the details in a book? I guess you must believe he had their phone numbers memorised :worry:.

To be clear again: Epstein was a prolific child sex trafficker. Andrew was in frequent contact with him.

This isn't rumours or gossip, the above is simply fact.

[jet]

You don't think he had the details in a book? I guess you must believe he had their phone numbers memorised :worry:.

To be clear again: Epstein was a prolific child sex trafficker. Andrew was in frequent contact with him.

This isn't rumours or gossip, the above is simply fact.

To be clear: I know all that. Of course he would have had contact details.

You were talking about his ‘little black book’ being exposed by files, to which I replied ‘you wish’ as they are not the sort of details that would be available. :rolleyes:

[user104658]

To be clear: I know all that. Of course he would have had contact details.

You were talking about his ‘little black book’ being exposed by files, to which I replied ‘you wish’ as they are not the sort of details that would be available. :rolleyes:

Ahh "I wish" there was more hard evidence of their evident connection, but that evidence isn't there, which you are apparently happy about, because the ambiguity protects the image of the Royals.

I understand now. Royals > uncovering the truth about paedo pimps.

I'll add that one to the list of "things that British Royals are more important than".

[jet]

Ahh "I wish" there was more hard evidence of their evident connection, but that evidence isn't there, which you are apparently happy about

I’m happy enough with the evidence to date, it seems you need more. Do you have some doubts then? :suspect:

[user104658]

I’m happy enough with the evidence to date, it seems you need more. Do you have some doubts then? :suspect:

I'm sure you are happy enough with the evidence to date - he's still trooping about with the rest of the Royals enjoying his gold-plated existence. I'm personally hoping there's some nice juicy evidence that would put him in a cell. But we know that would never happen. Hence the locked files.

[jet]

I'm sure you are happy enough with the evidence to date - he's still trooping about with the rest of the Royals enjoying his gold-plated existence. I'm personally hoping there's some nice juicy evidence that would put him in a cell. But we know that would never happen. Hence the locked files.

As the case with Virginia Giuffre' is already settled, you want more ‘juicy’ evidence? Like what? That other girls suffered abuse from him to satisfy your desire for him to be locked up? Was one not enough for you?

….and once again, the files of all the Royals are locked for the same time period.

[thesheriff443]

I'm sure you are happy enough with the evidence to date - he's still trooping about with the rest of the Royals enjoying his gold-plated existence. I'm personally hoping there's some nice juicy evidence that would put him in a cell. But we know that would never happen. Hence the locked files.

You do know locking files away is nothing new and it happens in politics

[user104658]

As the case with Virginia Giuffre' is already settled, you want more ‘juicy’ evidence? Like what? That other girls suffered abuse from him to satisfy your desire for him to be locked up? Was one not enough for you?

That he was well aware of Epstein's activities before, during and after his attendance of these parties ... instead of his gormless feigning of ignorance.

….and once again, the files of all the Royals are locked for the same time period.

No idea why you keep repeating this. That makes it worse, not better.

You do know locking files away is nothing new and it happens in politics

And if it's not new, it must be fine?

[jet]

No idea why you keep repeating this. That makes it worse, not better.


Because you keep repeating 'that's why Andrew's files are locked up'. It is not.
I'm not attempting to make it better, all their files being locked up is a FACT.

[jet]

That he was well aware of Epstein's activities before, during and after his attendance of these parties ... instead of his gormless feigning of ignorance.


If that got him locked up, he would be in the company of dozens of high - profile American males who Virginia Guiffe claims to have known all about Epsteins acitivities and participated in them with her, but she has never brought cases against.

[user104658]

If that got him locked up, he would be in the company of dozens of high - profile American males who Virginia Guiffe claims to have known all about Epsteins acitivities and participated in them with her, but she has never brought cases against.

The same high-profile American males who quite blatantly had Epstein murdered in his cell... so I can understand her not ****ing with them.

I'm well enough aware that Andrew isn't the worst of what Epstein was involved in and he was clearly in some ways naive and out of his depth.

It however doesn't make him any less of a predatory creep.

[bots]

I don't know about anyone else, but any parties/get togethers have followed my age profile through my life. So now, it's all middle aged + :laugh:

Kids were around obviously when we were younger, but there comes a point when the grow up 15+ and the last thing they want is to be seen in the company of their parents.

With that in mind, Andrew as a middle aged man, was attending parties with lots of young teen girls. There is no way that could be considered innocent or naive. I don't really know who he is trying to kid. Yes, he wasn't the only one, but he is a relatively easy target with a big bag of cash, so he was obviously the first one to be fingered.

I'm not sure how much or indeed if there is anything related to that being locked up out of view, i would imagine anything not in the public domain was destroyed a while ago

[arista]

BBC News Text:
["Prince Andrew faces fresh scrutiny over
his Jeffrey Epstein links after a US judge ruled
evidence from an accuser be made public".
The papers says 40 documents relating
to a woman who has previously accused
the royal of groping her breasts at
Epstein's New York mansion in 2021,
will be published in early January.
The Duke of York has always denied
any wrongdoing.]


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[arista]

This is Related
to the Sun Front Page

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[bots]

great news for all the lawyers getting a big christmas bonus to try and stop their clients being named

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Livia]

Good. Because up till now he's not been charged with anything. Let's see if there's anything of substance... although I doubt it.

[arista]

Sky News Text :
[New court documents revealing the full details
of Prince Andrew's lobbying of US authorities
to accept Jeffrey Epstein's plea deal over a
sex offence are set to be made public,
the Sunday Mirror reports.]

[bots]

lobbying the US authorities is not a crime, so what does it actually prove

[arista]

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[arista]

Tubby Andrew is on the Front Page.


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/b82d/live/04b70ed0-21f3-11ef-80aa-699d54c46324.jpg.webp


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13488759/prince-andrew-horse-riding-windsor-castle-king-charles-sever-ties.html

[Zizu]

Tubby Andrew is on the Front Page.


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/b82d/live/04b70ed0-21f3-11ef-80aa-699d54c46324.jpg.webp


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13488759/prince-andrew-horse-riding-windsor-castle-king-charles-sever-ties.html


Be careful

Apparently we are not allowed to make comments about someone else’s weight or body shape


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[Gusto Brunt]

I wonder if Andrew has any private pensions. He could take early retirement. Go into an old people's home. :p

But retirement from what I don't know. He's never done a day's work for close on 40 years. :p

[arista]

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That will save Big Cash

[arista]

He has 31 rooms in that Nice Building.

Good on the King
Stopping his 10 Protection officers

He should move up to Scotland
and use a small Royal building up there.

Give him 2 Protection officers
AM and PM shifts.

[arista]

From ITV1HDnews
their Top Royal Correspondent :

Those 10 Security Officers
were funded by the Queen.

So it makes sense King Charles
stops that
to get him (Andrew) to move out
of that massive home.

[Gusto Brunt]

He's basically a waste of space. And the guy will probably live to 96, too, like his mother.

Another 30 years of him then.

[rusticgal]

Good news...:cheer2:

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/19/12/88678301-0-image-a-19_1724065928531.jpg

[Will Prince Andrew and Fergie be forced to move to an Airbnb?

Sandringham cottage currently rented
to tourists is on list of potential new
homes if King forces them out of Royal Lodge]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13756857/Will-Prince-Andrew-Fergie-forced-Airbnb-Sandringham-cottage-currently-rented-tourists-list-potential-new-homes-King-forces-Royal-Lodge.html

[arista]

Good news...:cheer2:


He is still in the Massive House

[arista]

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[Livia]

Not sure I believe that. Also... Still waiting for Andrew to be charged with something, let alone convicted.

[arista]

Prince Andrew
is not moving out,
he is staying there...............

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Story, focused on Prince Andrew.
The paper reports that the Duke of York's
Windsor home is going 'to ruin'.
The story follows earlier reports the King
has ordered Prince Andrew's annual
allowance to be stopped according
to an updated biography of the
monarch by Robert Hardman.]


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[arista]

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[arista]

Sky News Text :
[Security services are investigating money
that was given to Prince Andrew after
an alleged Chinese spy with links
to the royal was banned from the UK,
The Daily Telegraph writes.]

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[arista]

Sky News Text :
[The Times reports an alleged Chinese spy
who was a "close confidant" of Prince Andrew
had entered Buckingham Palace on
the royal's invitation.]

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[arista]

Sky News Text :
[The Daily Mirror writes that the King
has been briefed on Prince Andrew's
links to a Chinese businessman
who is alleged to have been a spy.]


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[arista]

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[Ammi]

…another Andrew scandal…?…he won’t sweat it, though…

[bots]

Andrew is so dodgy :laugh:

[Livia]

Andrew is not a wise man but I don't think he's the calculating conniving man he's made out to be. I struggle with the whole Epstein thing that made a woman very rich on the strength of one questionable photo and this Chinese spy thing just sounds like another of a series of disastrous decisions through his life. He's never been charged with anything, he hasn't even been arrested. He's the only member of the royal family who is a real war hero, forget Harry in his highly guarded safe zone, he saved a lot of.lives in the Falklands and he's not even allowed to wear his uniform unless with special permission.

[arista]

Good this Spy has been Blocked

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

MP Nigel Farage
will name H6 China Spy
in Parliament


ITV1HDnews

[arista]

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[arista]

[King's conundrum amid fears stubborn
Prince Andrew will still attend family
Christmas lunch and will parade
in front of crowds at Sandringham
despite 'Chinese spy' scandal:
Royal insiders hope Duke will 'do the right thing'
and uninvite himself]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14196275/Kings-conundrum-amid-fears-stubborn-Prince-Andrew-attend-family-Christmas-lunch-parade-crowds-Sandringham-despite-Chinese-spy-scandal-Royal-insiders-hope-Duke-right-thing-uninvite-himself.html

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Spy Named
the Judge has lifted it

Yang Tengbo

[arista]

Good on the King

Andy banned from joint dinner

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[Cherie]

I very much doubt dozy Andy knew he was a spy

[arista]

I very much doubt dozy Andy knew he was a spy


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Andrew is paying for his own Security now.
At his Massive Home.

Royal expert Richard Fitzwilliam
confirmed on GBnewsHD


I am sure he knows many Ex Police
he can employ
24/7

[Ammi]

Prince Andrew reported to the POLICE after 'using fake name' amid saga around private investments company…


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14257287/prince-andrew-reported-police-false-claims.html?ico=related-replace

…Andrew Inverness was the name he called himself, apparently…

[bots]

he has been so sketchy, it's impossible to ignore

[arista]

Prince Andrew reported to the POLICE after 'using fake name' amid saga around private investments company…


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14257287/prince-andrew-reported-police-false-claims.html?ico=related-replace

…Andrew Inverness was the name he called himself, apparently…


Yes the King must sort this out Ammi


[The apparent filing of false information
with Companies House may seem trivial,
but the UK faces serious issues of fraud
committed in this way.
While no such fraud is alleged here,
surely Andrew must be held to
the highest standards.]

[Livia]

Yes the King must sort this out Ammi


[The apparent filing of false information
with Companies House may seem trivial,
but the UK faces serious issues of fraud
committed in this way.
While no such fraud is alleged here,
surely Andrew must be held to
the highest standards.]

It's probably something to do with his titles. When Charles was first dating Diana he'd use the name Charles Renfrew. But I suppose Andrew is the devil now and is scrutinised constantly despite never being arrested, let alone charged.

[bots]

there is a big difference between booking a hotel under an assumed name and forming a company, which is a legal document, with a false name. The latter is fraud, no if's, no but's

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Sky News Text:
[The Sunday Times reports that newly released
court papers detail how Prince Andrew
was viewed by the Chinese state as a
"valuable communication channel".]


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[Cherie]

Grim

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[The Duke of York and alleged Chinese Spy Yang Tengbo,
who has previously denied any wrongdoing.
The newspaper reports on
evidence heard by a tribunal about
the "bewildering" behaviour of
a senior royal adviser.]

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[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Virginia Giuffre and a car accident she posted
about on her Instagram take up the entire front page
of the Metro.
In her social media post, which included
a bruised selfie, Ms Giuffre said that doctors
had given her "four days to live".
She is best known for her allegations
that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell
trafficked her to the Duke of York
when she was 17.]

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[Ammi]

BBC News Text:
[Virginia Giuffre and a car accident she posted
about on her Instagram take up the entire front page
of the Metro.
In her social media post, which included
a bruised selfie, Ms Giuffre said that doctors
had given her "four days to live".
She is best known for her allegations
that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell
trafficked her to the Duke of York
when she was 17.]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/102c/live/d682f230-0e6f-11f0-ba12-8d27eb561761.jpg.webp

…oh wow, that’s awful…I hope that outcome/‘prediction’ isn’t fixed and that there’s a path to recovery for her…

[bots]

i'm going down the conspiracy route again. The Aussie police have no record of any car accident. Given the serious nature of the injuries and the supposed crash, that would seem impossible. She is supposed to have hit a school bus

[Livia]

This is a very strange story. Of course, people are not going to want to think she's lied...

[user104658]

A --car crash-- you say ... :omgno: :think:

[Ammi]

…is this a bit weird, the police have said that only a minor accident with the school bus was reported and no one hurt…her family say that her injuries are serious…although she meant to make a private post and mistakenly posted it publicly…it’s all a bit muddled atm…anyway, I hope that she’s ok but I have no idea what the situation is with her health…

[Ammi]

A --car crash-- you say ... :omgno: :think:

…well, I’m not sure what the deal is with the crash because the police are saying it was a minor incident with no injuries reported…

[Beso]

I reckon her estranged husband has beat her up.

[user104658]

I reckon her estranged husband has beat her up.

I reckon it was vengeful spirit of Prince Philip

[Maru]

i'm going down the conspiracy route again. The Aussie police have no record of any car accident. Given the serious nature of the injuries and the supposed crash, that would seem impossible. She is supposed to have hit a school bus

That would be on all the local TV news stations if that were true. We're obsessed with drivers cutting off kids walking off (it's also illegal), much less if one actually crashed... :laugh:

[arista]

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[arista]

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FBI let him off...............

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

BBC News Text:
[The front page of the Mirror leads on an image
that allegedly shows Prince Andrew,
Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell in the
royal box at Ascot.
The paper says the photo was taken at
Ascot Ladies' Day on 22 June 2000. ]


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[arista]

Sky News Text:
[Prince Andrew believes it may never be safe
for him to return to the US amid calls for
the Duke of York to give testimony to Congress
about paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, reports The Daily Mirror.]


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[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Catherine's "lighter locks" also appear on
the front page of the Sun,
but the paper leads with Giuffre's memoir
set to be published in October.
An unnamed source quoted by the paper
says the book is Giuffre's "ultimate revenge".]


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[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

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Good luck to him.

It would be good to see some real justice for once.

[Livia]

Good luck to him.

It would be good to see some real justice for once.

What do you want justice for, exactly? What has he done? What evidence exists? If any evidence existed Andrew would have been arrested but he hasn't been arrested, let alone charged with a crime. So far as I can see this whole thing is hinged on one dodgy photo and the claims of a clearly unbalanced and damaged woman. Are there any other witnesses? Andrew, an actual war hero, may not be the most.likeable member of the royal family but he's been treated abominably imo.

[Mystic Mock]

What do you want justice for, exactly? What has he done? What evidence exists? If any evidence existed Andrew would have been arrested but he hasn't been arrested, let alone charged with a crime. So far as I can see this whole thing is hinged on one dodgy photo and the claims of a clearly unbalanced and damaged woman. Are there any other witnesses? Andrew, an actual war hero, may not be the most.likeable member of the royal family but he's been treated abominably imo.

He didn't want to be questioned by the FBI when they were looking for information from him about the case.

From my view, I would want to clear my name up from being a possible suspect.

Didn't he also stay friends with a Paedophile after the fact, or am I mixing him up with someone else?

[Livia]

He didn't want to be questioned by the FBI when they were looking for information from him about the case.

From my view, I would want to clear my name up from being a possible suspect.

Didn't he also stay friends with a Paedophile after the fact, or am I mixing him up with someone else?

How many "friends" do you think Epstein had? I'm not arguing that he was an odious paedo, i just don't think you can tar everyone he ever interacted with using the same brush. I don't know what his interactions were with the FBI. I do know they have nothing solid on him or he'd have been arrested. To me this is the persecution of someone because he's a member of the British royal family and the press LOVE a salacious, sensational story especially in connection to the royals.

Morning Mock, by the way...

[bots]

people are not going to find out the true details about epstein because the people that took advantage of the services he offered are never going to admit it. Add to that the fact that most of them are powerful, rich people, and the chances decrease even further.

The actual big problem is that these thing still go on to this day both here and in america and the authorities continue to look the other way

[arista]

He didn't want to be questioned by the FBI when they were looking for information from him about the case.

From my view, I would want to clear my name up from being a possible suspect.

Didn't he also stay friends with a Paedophile after the fact, or am I mixing him up with someone else?



The FBI
should fly to London
to speak to him.

[Mystic Mock]

How many "friends" do you think Epstein had? I'm not arguing that he was an odious paedo, i just don't think you can tar everyone he ever interacted with using the same brush. I don't know what his interactions were with the FBI. I do know they have nothing solid on him or he'd have been arrested. To me this is the persecution of someone because he's a member of the British royal family and the press LOVE a salacious, sensational story especially in connection to the royals.

Morning Mock, by the way...

I'm sorry for the late response Livia, I hope that you've been doing well?:wavey:

Tbf Andrew might not be a Paedophile, but I do believe that he has information about Paedophiles on that island, and I think that the FBI were suspicious that he has information too.

And I do agree with you tbf that the media love a dramatic scandal involving famous people.

[Mystic Mock]

The FBI
should fly to London
to speak to him.

Criminal Minds: London.:laugh:

[Beso]

Just found myself quoting livia points over the golf club earlier.

I think I swayed him.

[Livia]

I'm sorry for the late response Livia, I hope that you've been doing well?:wavey:

Tbf Andrew might not be a Paedophile, but I do believe that he has information about Paedophiles on that island, and I think that the FBI were suspicious that he has information too.

And I do agree with you tbf that the media love a dramatic scandal involving famous people.

You were late, Mock. I hope you have a note....

[bots]

Andrew is arrogant and self entitled like the majority of the wealthy. If you compare Andrew, to the other royals at the time, he was the one most rubbing it in the publics face which is why people basically don't like him. Most people would probably have let his behaviour go and shook their heads, but his performance in that newsnight interview turned the public firmly against him. It doesn't mean he is guilty, but he may as well be in the publics view

[Livia]

Andrew is arrogant and self entitled like the majority of the wealthy. If you compare Andrew, to the other royals at the time, he was the one most rubbing it in the publics face which is why people basically don't like him. Most people would probably have let his behaviour go and shook their heads, but his performance in that newsnight interview turned the public firmly against him. It doesn't mean he is guilty, but he may as well be in the publics view

Most people I know don't have strong feeling about him either way. Most people of my Dad's generation remember him as a hero of the Falklands war.

[bots]

Most people I know don't have strong feeling about him either way. Most people of my Dad's generation remember him as a hero of the Falklands war.

i remember Andrew from the Falklands war. We are of a similar age, so i remember when he was flying in his helicopter and acting as a decoy for the ships in the fleet. The argentine missiles were a really big threat at the time and being of a similatr age I had to admire his bravery.

Really, Andrews descent into playboy happened when the queen wouldn't allow him to marry Koo Stark, his first true love. It all went downhill from there. It's a story that gets repeated over and over again with the queens family

[Mystic Mock]

You were late, Mock. I hope you have a note....

Notepad and pen at the ready.:dance:

[Livia]

Notepad and pen at the ready.:dance:

A tenner would do.

[Mystic Mock]

A tenner would do.

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[arista]

Sky News text:
[The Observer is leading with an
investigation into who “trolled”
Virginia Giuffre,
who died by suicide at the age of 41.]



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[emseateng2014]

we should start calling him andrew windsor