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glib
21-01-2022, 09:47 AM
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60077767.amp

Austria’s Parliament has passed a mandatory jab law, that will come into effect on 1st February

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Austria’s answer to Matt Hancock: Wolfgang Mueckstein, health minister

It was backed 137-33, with Austria currently led by a centre-right coalition
Only the President needs to sign the law, which is expected anyway, as it is a ‘formality’ to do so.

If unvaccinated adults remain by mid March, they will be fined up to £3,000

Vienna has seen protests of up to 40,000 people against the measure

This is expected to last until January 2024
72% of adults are so far fully vaccinated in Austria

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Anti Vaxxers humiliated themselves whilst raging online about the law, which primarily doesn’t affect them, as they come from the US

Some claimed it ‘felt like history was repeating itself’, whilst another distastefully joked ‘Austria gave us Hitler’. Some others demanded Austrians ‘fight for what is free’…

What are your thoughts? Are compulsory jabs necessary?

Niamh.
21-01-2022, 09:50 AM
I'm very pro the vaccine personally however I don't like the idea of people being forced to have it at all, always Pro Choice

arista
21-01-2022, 02:52 PM
Yes Germany to Follow this.

arista
21-01-2022, 03:01 PM
I'm very pro the vaccine personally however I don't like the idea of people being forced to have it at all, always Pro Choice

They can be the underclass
banned from a Café

Cherie
21-01-2022, 03:05 PM
Personal choice this is a terrible decision

Alf
21-01-2022, 03:06 PM
Austria have form on this sort of thing.

Some Charlie Chaplin looking artist came from Austria and did similar things.

glib
21-01-2022, 03:11 PM
Austria have form on this sort of thing.

Some Charlie Chaplin looking artist came from Austria and did similar things.

This has been passed by the Parliament in quite a large majority though, not a dictator

Crimson Dynamo
21-01-2022, 03:11 PM
why not round up the unvaccinated and herd them via train to big camps?

glib
21-01-2022, 03:12 PM
why not round up the unvaccinated and herd them via train to big camps?

They could have a separate part of the city for them to be honest

arista
21-01-2022, 03:14 PM
why not round up the unvaccinated and herd them via train to big camps?



No, many of them will find getting the Vaccines
means they can go places and the Café

Alf
21-01-2022, 03:16 PM
This has been passed by the Parliament in quite a large majority though, not a dictatorAre any of their Parliament representing the unvaccinated? Are any of their Parliament pointing out that this is wrong because forcing people to inject themselves is medical tyranny?

glib
21-01-2022, 03:18 PM
Are any of their Parliament representing the unvaccinated? Are any of their Parliament pointing out that this is wrong because forcing people to inject themselves is medical tyranny?

It’s not necessarily forced either, but you need to have ‘up to’ £3000 on hand to counter it.
Of course it will affect the majority sadly.

Niamh.
21-01-2022, 03:21 PM
Are any of their Parliament representing the unvaccinated? Are any of their Parliament pointing out that this is wrong because forcing people to inject themselves is medical tyranny?

"The UnVaccinated" sounds like a horror film :laugh:

But yes, this is disgraceful, people should be entitled to bodily autonomy, I'd go so far as to say it's a human rights issue.

Alf
21-01-2022, 03:25 PM
It’s not necessarily forced either, but you need to have ‘up to’ £3000 on hand to counter it.
Of course it will affect the majority sadly.There's a good meme somewhere to answer the "it's not forced" reply. If I find it I'll post it.

Cal.
21-01-2022, 06:00 PM
Pro vaccine myself but don’t like the idea of this at all.

Mystic Mock
21-01-2022, 11:46 PM
Poor form from Austria imo.

Of course it's beneficial to have the Vaccine, but forcing people against their will is not a good idea, have they not seen the overwhelming abuse that Australia has received for pushing this idea forward? So why on earth would anyone want to copy them?

Luckily for them they still have time to back out before it's too late.

rusticgal
22-01-2022, 12:32 AM
Pro vaccine myself but don’t like the idea of this at all.


No…it doesn’t sit right with me either…nobody should be forced to have it.

bots
22-01-2022, 12:39 AM
i'm not aware of anyone in my circle that wants mandatory vaccination, i can't believe the majority of people in any country are in favour of it

Alf
22-01-2022, 02:10 AM
i'm not aware of anyone in my circle that wants mandatory vaccination, i can't believe the majority of people in any country are in favour of itThey're not, but all the propaganda has to do is tell the opposite. Who's gonna fact check the self proclaimed truth tellers? You don't have the authority to. Or at least you don't think you do.

user104658
22-01-2022, 12:06 PM
Everyone should get the vaccine however informed consent is a key component of ethical healthcare... So "mandatory" should never come into it.

GoldHeart
22-01-2022, 12:58 PM
Everyone should get the vaccine however informed consent is a key component of ethical healthcare... So "mandatory" should never come into it.

But if you want to fly abroad on holiday you HAVE to be vaccinated anyway, why is that different when that's also MANDATORY ?.

People complain about not having a 'choice'.But then those same people will go gallivanting around ...maskless breathing on everyone, in crowded places spreading the virus.

Nicky91
22-01-2022, 01:38 PM
i don't ''fly abroad'' for holidays anymore sooo my choice for not wanting the vaccine is easier


i just don't want the vaccine based upon that i don't want to get that myocarditis side effect of the vaccine, among people my age group and since i never ever socialize why should i risk getting that then


but i am NOT a complete anti-vaxxer, as i do want everyone in a risk group to get the vaccine for more protection, but tbh risk group like those with autoimmune diseases the vaccine only protects you so much from the virus, so those people still need to stick to some rules, precautions

user104658
22-01-2022, 02:03 PM
But if you want to fly abroad on holiday you HAVE to be vaccinated anyway, why is that different when that's also MANDATORY ?.

The key is "if you want to fly abroad". Flying abroad for a holiday is not a necessity. I guess that's sort of like saying "if you want to drive a car, you HAVE to have a drivers license". That doesn't mean having a driver's license is mandatory in everyday life.

GoldHeart
22-01-2022, 02:26 PM
The key is "if you want to fly abroad". Flying abroad for a holiday is not a necessity. I guess that's sort of like saying "if you want to drive a car, you HAVE to have a drivers license". That doesn't mean having a driver's license is mandatory in everyday life.


Yeah but through life you have to follow the rules , even what you said about driving license , it's actually saves alot of time to have a photo ID as a proof of document , whether that's a driver's licence or a passport . You might never go abroad or drive a car but it seems to help in life to have those things.


The problem is people want to have their cake and eat it, they want to go abroad ,go out all the time in crowds of people but never get vaxxed for safety and they don't wear masks . It wouldn't be so bad if they took precautions. Obviously I know not everyone is like that though.

Vicky.
22-01-2022, 02:27 PM
Against this wholeheartedly. Should always be a choice. Mandatory medical treatment never ends well.

arista
22-01-2022, 02:41 PM
Against this wholeheartedly. Should always be a choice. Mandatory medical treatment never ends well.


Under the Current Political Power
it's a Typical move.


[Right-Wing Populist and
National-Conservative Political Party control Austria.]

DemolitionRed
22-01-2022, 07:38 PM
Yeah but through life you have to follow the rules , even what you said about driving license , it's actually saves alot of time to have a photo ID as a proof of document , whether that's a driver's licence or a passport . You might never go abroad or drive a car but it seems to help in life to have those things.


The problem is people want to have their cake and eat it, they want to go abroad ,go out all the time in crowds of people but never get vaxxed for safety and they don't wear masks . It wouldn't be so bad if they took precautions. Obviously I know not everyone is like that though.

You assume quite a lot. Many people choose not to have the vaccine because of the amount of vaccine deaths and vaccine injuries. That doesn't mean they aren't still worried about getting Covid and so still take precautions like wearing masks and self distancing.
I had the first two vaccines but will not be having any boosters. That doesn't make me some selfish anti-vaxer, it just makes me anti-the covid vaccine for myself. If people want to have it that's fine, if people don't, that's fine too.

Mystic Mock
22-01-2022, 11:03 PM
But if you want to fly abroad on holiday you HAVE to be vaccinated anyway, why is that different when that's also MANDATORY ?.

People complain about not having a 'choice'.But then those same people will go gallivanting around ...maskless breathing on everyone, in crowded places spreading the virus.

Having a Vaccine to go abroad is different from forcing people to have it just to go to their local Supermarket.

GoldHeart
22-01-2022, 11:53 PM
You assume quite a lot. Many people choose not to have the vaccine because of the amount of vaccine deaths and vaccine injuries. That doesn't mean they aren't still worried about getting Covid and so still take precautions like wearing masks and self distancing.
I had the first two vaccines but will not be having any boosters. That doesn't make me some selfish anti-vaxer, it just makes me anti-the covid vaccine for myself. If people want to have it that's fine, if people don't, that's fine too.


I literally said NOT everyone as I know there's people who take precautions ,whether they've had the vaccine or not .

But you can't deny there's STILL selfish attitudes out there, we all know there's people out there who will spread the virus and not care.

I understand the problematic issue of making something 'mandatory',but this virus is here to stay and something has to be done to control it.

GoldHeart
22-01-2022, 11:59 PM
Having a Vaccine to go abroad is different from forcing people to have it just to go to their local Supermarket.

Yeah I understand the issues surrounding that ,but I think they're just trying to lower the infection rate. I think the depressing reality is COVID will always be around like the common cold.

Mystic Mock
23-01-2022, 12:08 AM
Yeah I understand the issues surrounding that ,but I think they're just trying to lower the infection rate. I think the depressing reality is COVID will always be around like the common cold.

That's a fair point.