View Full Version : Whoopi Goldberg apologises for saying Holocaust 'isn't about race'
Crimson Dynamo
01-02-2022, 10:51 AM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/world-news/2022/02/01/TELEMMGLPICT000282631179_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlberW d9EgFPZtcLiMQf0Rf_Wk3V23H2268P_XkPxc.jpeg?imwidth= 600
US talk show host Whoopi Goldberg has offered her "sincerest
apologies" after saying the Holocaust "isn't about race".
Goldberg said: "Let's be truthful, the Holocaust isn't about race, it's not."
"It's about man's inhumanity to man, that's what it's about. These are two
groups of white people."
She continued: "You're missing the point... let's talk about it for what it really
is. It's about how people treat each other.
"It's a problem. It doesn't matter if you're black or white, Jews...everybody
eats each other."
Goldberg, who co-hosts The View on the American network ABC, said Jewish
people around the world have "always had my support" in a statement
following a backlash to her remarks online.
Goldberg claimed the historic atrocity was about "man's inhumanity to man".
She made the comments on the show during a discussion about a Tennessee
school board's decision to ban Pulitzer prize-winning Holocaust graphic novel
Maus.:umm2:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/01/whoopi-goldberg-apologises-saying-holocaust-isnt-race/
arista
01-02-2022, 10:56 AM
Stupid Women.
Tabloids could make such a good headline out of this , like I originally saw when I read the title of this post
WHOOPS! - Goldberg apologises…
Livia
01-02-2022, 01:59 PM
She's an idiot.
user104658
01-02-2022, 05:31 PM
It obviously is about race - I suspect she just meant that it isn't entirely about race... as they were exterminating based on sexuality and disability as well (regardless of race).
Cherie
01-02-2022, 05:36 PM
It obviously is about race - I suspect she just meant that it isn't entirely about race... as they were exterminating based on sexuality and disability as well (regardless of race).
No she clearly said it was about two white groups, and went on the say its about mans inhumanity to fellow man
UserSince2005
01-02-2022, 05:36 PM
silly cow. blinded by he own victimhood
Cherie
01-02-2022, 05:37 PM
https://decider.com/2022/01/31/whoopi-goldberg-under-fire-holocaust-comments-the-view/
Crimson Dynamo
01-02-2022, 05:49 PM
Whoopi
Everyone is a racist except Hitler
Have you only just noticed that she talks out of her arse?
GoldHeart
01-02-2022, 06:42 PM
No she clearly said it was about two white groups, and went on the say its about mans inhumanity to fellow man
Cherie I don't think she meant it like that unless I've misunderstood her point ?. But anyone with half a brain knows the severe suffering Jewish people have gone through. Through history people have been persecuted for their religion, race ,gender etc
I think I see the point she's trying to make. When you hear about such evil , whether you're Jewish,black or white or male or female you're human and anyone with a shred of compassion in them should feel something. It's important for everyone to learn about this history wherever you're from.
She's not an idiot she knows what the holocaust is, she's always stood up against prejudice and racism . I know she had sympathy for Mel Gibson despite his racist slurs,but I think she knew he had mental health issues. She called him a 'bone head'.
Even the other day on TV a Jewish holocaust survivor expressed how it wasn't just Jews who were tortured & killed,but literally anyone who was different and anyone who didn't follow the "rules" . This was a massacre, these were sadistic people.
Cherie I don't think she meant it like that unless I've misunderstood her point ?. But anyone with half a brain knows the severe suffering Jewish people have gone through. Through history people have been persecuted for their religion, race ,gender etc
I think I see the point she's trying to make. When you hear about such evil , whether you're Jewish,black or white or male or female you're human and anyone with a shred of compassion in them should feel something. It's important for everyone to learn about this history wherever you're from.
She's not an idiot she knows what the holocaust is, she's always stood up against prejudice and racism . I know she had sympathy for Mel Gibson despite his racist slurs,but I think she knew he had mental health issues. She called him a 'bone head'.
Even the other day on TV a Jewish holocaust survivor expressed how it wasn't just Jews who were tortured & killed,but literally anyone who was different and anyone who didn't follow the "rules" . This was a massacre, these were sadistic people.You don't need to defend her, she would never defend you. She's an ignorant witch, earning obscene amounts of money for doing nothing more than talking absolute bollox.
i think she was stating that the only thing that can be racist is when it's white vs black, anything else is just standard stuff
i think she was stating that the only thing that can be racist is when it's white vs black, anything else is just standard stuffCorrect.
GoldHeart
01-02-2022, 07:13 PM
You don't need to defend her, she would never defend you. She's an ignorant witch, earning obscene amounts of money for doing nothing more than talking absolute bollox.
Whoopie Goldberg is a BLACK FEMALE comedian and actress , she has been in the Industry forever. She's had her fair share of racism and sexism.
She knows what it's like not only to be treated differently but badly aswell, she knows others have paved the way for her. I'm pretty sure she's grateful for the successful career she's had thanks to diversity and change.
I wouldn't have worded it as "2white groups", but the point is through history so called 'mankind' has committed so many atrocities against their fellow beings that it's frankly sickening & depressing. And they never seem to learn from it.
Disease and illness is one thing, but the evil that humans do to eachother is barbaric and INHUMANE. And it's still happening all over the world.
Jordan.
01-02-2022, 07:20 PM
We forgive you Whoopi
Crimson Dynamo
01-02-2022, 07:40 PM
We forgive you Whoopi
for being anti-semetic?
wow
Livia
01-02-2022, 08:36 PM
i think she was stating that the only thing that can be racist is when it's white vs black, anything else is just standard stuff
Yes, that's how I read it too.
Oliver_W
01-02-2022, 09:32 PM
It obviously is about race - I suspect she just meant that it isn't entirely about race... as they were exterminating based on sexuality and disability as well (regardless of race).
Quite.
Some people say the Nazis were "white supremacist" which isn't entirely accurate - as WhoopiCushion said, some of their victims were white, and they also regarded muslims as allies, along with Chinese and Japanese.
So while they were certainly partially racist, it wasn't entirely that simple.
i think she was stating that the only thing that can be racist is when it's white vs black
... So stupid, then.
arista
02-02-2022, 02:05 AM
[Why is there one rule for Whoopi and another
for everyone else?' Staffers' fury at ABC's
'anti-Semitic blind spot' for not firing
Goldberg over her claim the
Holocaust 'wasn't racist' - as #FireWhoopi
hashtag spreads
Whoopi Goldberg
has not been disciplined by ABC News
over her Holocaust claims
On Monday, she claimed the Holocaust
was not 'about race' because
Nazis and Jews were both white
She then doubled down on the claim
on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert
Whoopi posted an apology on Twitter
claiming she stood 'corrected' - but many
are refusing to accept it
On Tuesday, she gave an on-air apology
then interviewed the CEO
of The Anti-Defamation League who
spoke generally about anti-Semitism
She said: 'I misspoke... it was about race.
I stand with the Jewish people, as I always have'
One senior ABC News source
told DailyMail.com staff are 'livid' and that the
network has an 'anti-Semitic blind spot'
'It's time Disney and ABC grew a pair and fired her,'
said the source
Whoopi on Tuesday interviewed
the CEO of the Anti-Defamation League on the show ]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10464345/ABC-staffers-fury-network-not-fired-Whoopi-Goldberg-Holocaust-race-claims.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline
Whoopi Goldberg has been suspended from a US talk show after saying the Holocaust involved "two groups of white people".
ABC News said Goldberg would be off-air for two weeks after her "wrong and hurtful comments".
The actress and TV personality said on ABC's The View that the Nazi genocide of the Jews was "not about race".
She apologised but then caused further offence while attempting to explain her remarks on a late-night show.
In a note to staff on Tuesday night, ABC News president Kim Godwin wrote: "Effective immediately, I am suspending Whoopi Goldberg for two weeks for her wrong and hurtful comments.
"While Whoopi has apologized, I've asked her to take time to reflect and learn about the impact of her comments.
"The entire ABC News organization stands in solidarity with our Jewish colleagues, friends, family and communities."
"These decisions are never easy, but necessary," she added in the memo, reported the Hollywood Reporter.
"Just last week I noted that the culture at ABC News is one that is driven, kind, inclusive, respectful, and transparent. Whoopi's comments do not align with those values."
Earlier on Tuesday, Goldberg issued her third public apology.
"Yesterday on the show I misspoke," she said to open the talk show.
"[The Holocaust] is indeed about race, because Hitler and the Nazis considered the Jews to be an inferior race.
"Now, words matter, and mine are no exception. I regret my comments and I stand corrected. I also stand with the Jewish people."
The 66-year-old Oscar-winning actress, who has been on The View since 2007, first made the controversial comments on Monday's show while discussing a Tennessee school board's banning of a graphic novel about the Holocaust on the grounds that it showed nudity, profanity and suicide.
Amid the uproar, she released an apology hours later.
But on CBS' The Late Show with Stephen Colbert on Monday night, while attempting to clarify her comments, she said the Nazis had lied and actually had issues with ethnicity not race, which caused further offence.
It is not the first time Goldberg has caused controversy.
She said in 2009 that film director Roman Polanksi - who pleaded guilty to "unlawful sex with a minor" in 1977 - was not guilty of "rape-rape".
She also defended Bill Cosby as he faced sexual assault allegations, before reversing course amid a backlash.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60225196
user104658
02-02-2022, 08:54 AM
Reading her latest comments it actually sounds like she ... ... didn't actually know what the Nazi ideology was/how they viewed the Jews? How one reaches their mid-60's without a basic understanding that the Nazi extermination of the Jews was about racial supremacy and not "enemies" I don't know. It genuinely sounds like she's saying that she's just now learned that "Hitler and the Nazis considered the Jews to be an inferior race".
i don't think she is very bright as her previous gaffs show. The question really is why is she employed by a company to share her thoughts and views when she seems clearly lacking in intelligence
Oliver_W
02-02-2022, 09:21 AM
Reading her latest comments it actually sounds like she ... ... didn't actually know what the Nazi ideology was/how they viewed the Jews? How one reaches their mid-60's without a basic understanding that the Nazi extermination of the Jews was about racial supremacy and not "enemies" I don't know. It genuinely sounds like she's saying that she's just now learned that "Hitler and the Nazis considered the Jews to be an inferior race".
To be fair, the "everyone I disagree with is Hitler" mindset is more of an American thing than anywhere else, so maybe education about WWII in the States is lacking?
Or maybe as BOTS said, she's just not very bright :joker:
Nicky91
02-02-2022, 09:25 AM
doesn't make me dislike this queen
to quote and rephrase that iconic song from sister act: i will follow her wherever she may go
Livia
02-02-2022, 09:48 AM
She said: 'I misspoke... it was about race. I stand with the Jewish people, as I always have'
Hahaha..... **** off.
Niamh.
02-02-2022, 09:51 AM
Whoopi Goldberg has been suspended from a US talk show after saying the Holocaust involved "two groups of white people".
ABC News said Goldberg would be off-air for two weeks after her "wrong and hurtful comments".
The actress and TV personality said on ABC's The View that the Nazi genocide of the Jews was "not about race".
She apologised but then caused further offence while attempting to explain her remarks on a late-night show.
In a note to staff on Tuesday night, ABC News president Kim Godwin wrote: "Effective immediately, I am suspending Whoopi Goldberg for two weeks for her wrong and hurtful comments.
"While Whoopi has apologized, I've asked her to take time to reflect and learn about the impact of her comments.
"The entire ABC News organization stands in solidarity with our Jewish colleagues, friends, family and communities."
"These decisions are never easy, but necessary," she added in the memo, reported the Hollywood Reporter.
"Just last week I noted that the culture at ABC News is one that is driven, kind, inclusive, respectful, and transparent. Whoopi's comments do not align with those values."
Earlier on Tuesday, Goldberg issued her third public apology.
"Yesterday on the show I misspoke," she said to open the talk show.
"[The Holocaust] is indeed about race, because Hitler and the Nazis considered the Jews to be an inferior race.
"Now, words matter, and mine are no exception. I regret my comments and I stand corrected. I also stand with the Jewish people."
The 66-year-old Oscar-winning actress, who has been on The View since 2007, first made the controversial comments on Monday's show while discussing a Tennessee school board's banning of a graphic novel about the Holocaust on the grounds that it showed nudity, profanity and suicide.
Amid the uproar, she released an apology hours later.
But on CBS' The Late Show with Stephen Colbert on Monday night, while attempting to clarify her comments, she said the Nazis had lied and actually had issues with ethnicity not race, which caused further offence.
It is not the first time Goldberg has caused controversy.
She said in 2009 that film director Roman Polanksi - who pleaded guilty to "unlawful sex with a minor" in 1977 - was not guilty of "rape-rape".
She also defended Bill Cosby as he faced sexual assault allegations, before reversing course amid a backlash.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60225196
She's got form then clearly, I hadn't heard any of those other comments either :/
arista
02-02-2022, 02:54 PM
We forgive you Whoopi
You Jordon
are on your own.
It was right to Suspend her, FAST
and Suspend all his Nike and Other Contracts
Cherie
02-02-2022, 06:15 PM
same with middle aged white woman Sharon Osborne..
same with middle aged white woman Sharon Osborne..You'd think that her White privilege would have helped her out, what with White privilege being such a noticeable thing.
GoldHeart
02-02-2022, 07:10 PM
You'd think that her White privilege would have helped her out, what with White privilege being such a noticeable thing.
White privilege IS a thing, but you can mock it all you want.
Do you want Whoopie to be permanently banned then ?? . Whoever you are people get cancelled all the time.
Whoopie knows what it's like to be treated differently and badly because of race & gender ,so nobody will convince me she's antisemitic. I don't agree with everything she says though or the way she says it.
Niamh.
02-02-2022, 07:17 PM
David Baddiels interview here about it is very good I thought
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David Baddiels interview here about it is very good I thought
It's lack of education and an unwillingness to believe that racism exists outside of black/white relationships
There are probably millions of americans with exactly the same views as her and the labour party is pretty much the same here
Mystic Mock
03-02-2022, 01:36 AM
Well technically Jewish people are followers of a religion, so she's not actually wrong in her statement.
Don't get me wrong it's still a horrible event what happened to those people in WWII, and like Islamophobia, Anti-Semitism is a prejudice, it's just a religious prejudice rather than a racial one.
Mystic Mock
03-02-2022, 01:40 AM
She needs cancelled.
That type of thinking needs to stop.
Mystic Mock
03-02-2022, 01:45 AM
The one part that is really weird from her comments though is that most Jewish people aren't white.:joker:
Mystic Mock
03-02-2022, 01:49 AM
She's got form then clearly, I hadn't heard any of those other comments either :/
No admittedly I might be withdrawing my defence of her after reading about "rape-rape.":laugh:
Mystic Mock
03-02-2022, 01:55 AM
You'd think that her White privilege would have helped her out, what with White privilege being such a noticeable thing.
The term white privilege is racist imo as it's a racial stereotype.
I understand that you're just messing around Alf, but terms like white privilege, white moment, the N word & the P word just piss me off, as it shows that in a lot of these cases people can't defend their viewpoint without referencing someone's colour of skin in a negative way.
I promise to stop posting on the thread now.:laugh:
GoldHeart
03-02-2022, 03:14 AM
The term white privilege is racist imo as it's a racial stereotype.
I understand that you're just messing around Alf, but terms like white privilege, white moment, the N word & the P word just piss me off, as it shows that in a lot of these cases people can't defend their viewpoint without referencing someone's colour of skin in a negative way.
I promise to stop posting on the thread now.:laugh:
Whether you think 'white privilege' exists or not , i've heard and seen some white people take advantage of the system, as they know they won't be treated the same way as a minority would especially in America.
In a ideal world they'd be no racism or people's skin colour mentioned in a negative way. But it happens all the time. Just like stereotyping and racial profiling keeps happening aswell.
As for Whoopi's comments about Polanski & Cosby i have no idea where she's coming from. i can't defend that as we all know they were both guilty.
But i know there's alot of hypocrisy especially in hollywood , as everyone knew Polanski was a creep yet they celebrated him not long ago at an award show.
And there's people who either don't want to believe Cosby is answerable either because they're in denial due to growing up watching him, or because of that awful mess of a court case .
Well technically Jewish people are followers of a religion, so she's not actually wrong in her statement.
Don't get me wrong it's still a horrible event what happened to those people in WWII, and like Islamophobia, Anti-Semitism is a prejudice, it's just a religious prejudice rather than a racial one.
no, there are many, many jewish people that are not religious at all, it's like calling me a christian cause i was baptised ... it has zero meaning and couldnt be further from reality
Oliver_W
03-02-2022, 08:15 AM
Well technically Jewish people are followers of a religion, so she's not actually wrong in her statement.
You can be an atheist Jew, technically. It's an ethnicity based on Israeli genes.
Being a muslim or Christian is "just" being part of a religion, being a Jew is not.
user104658
03-02-2022, 08:38 AM
no, there are many, many jewish people that are not religious at all, it's like calling me a christian cause i was baptised ... it has zero meaning and couldnt be further from realityWell that is where it gets complicated really; there were people who were both ethnically Jewish and practicing Judaism, there were people who were converts to Judaism with no Jewish ethnicity, and there were people who were ethnically Jewish but had no faith at all.
HOWEVER, the important thing to remember is that the Nazis persecuted and murdered Jewish people regardless of the above. They drew no distinction between a religious Jewish person and an atheist with Jewish parents. Which means it wasn't about ideology... It was definitely in large part about race.
Livia
03-02-2022, 11:11 AM
Well technically Jewish people are followers of a religion, so she's not actually wrong in her statement.
Don't get me wrong it's still a horrible event what happened to those people in WWII, and like Islamophobia, Anti-Semitism is a prejudice, it's just a religious prejudice rather than a racial one.
I get so tired of non-Jews telling us who we are "technically".
Jews consider themselves a race. Whoopi Goldberg is a racist.
I get so tired of non-Jews telling us who we are "technically".
Jews consider themselves a race. Whoopi Goldberg is a racist.Technically you're a cockney.
Elliot
03-02-2022, 03:34 PM
She’s right
Crimson Dynamo
03-02-2022, 03:44 PM
She’s right
she has already apologised for being wrong and is suspended
so....
Niamh.
03-02-2022, 03:45 PM
She’s right
Hitler very much saw it as a race issue considering he was fighting for the Aryan Race which he thought was the "superior race". Race was very much the driving factor during the Holocaust
She’s right
No, she has the same ability as you at being fantastically wrong most of the time.
Mystic Mock
03-02-2022, 06:20 PM
no, there are many, many jewish people that are not religious at all, it's like calling me a christian cause i was baptised ... it has zero meaning and couldnt be further from reality
Oh I was just talking about the term Jewish is meant to mean a follower of Judaism, obviously some people once they get older aren't that religious.
Again as someone that's from a Christian family I have probably developed more into an Agnostic as I've got older.
Hitler though probably hated the fact that a lot of Jewish people are brown skinned which does ironically nuke Whoopi's statement of "it was a war between two white groups."
Mystic Mock
03-02-2022, 06:34 PM
Whether you think 'white privilege' exists or not , i've heard and seen some white people take advantage of the system, as they know they won't be treated the same way as a minority would especially in America.
In a ideal world they'd be no racism or people's skin colour mentioned in a negative way. But it happens all the time. Just like stereotyping and racial profiling keeps happening aswell.
As for Whoopi's comments about Polanski & Cosby i have no idea where she's coming from. i can't defend that as we all know they were both guilty.
But i know there's alot of hypocrisy especially in hollywood , as everyone knew Polanski was a creep yet they celebrated him not long ago at an award show.
And there's people who either don't want to believe Cosby is answerable either because they're in denial due to growing up watching him, or because of that awful mess of a court case .
America is too obsessed with race imo, they'll never get anywhere with that attitude, I mean what Trump has said about the Mexicans in the past is nothing short of disgraceful, let alone the Police and the George Floyd case.
I just personally would like a little bit of the white privilege that the Internet speaks of so much.:joker: I mean my life doesn't suck by any means, but I wouldn't get away with causing an insurrection like a certain Mr. Trump.
My point being that the only privilege that exists in this world is if you're rich, the world doesn't care about you if you're a pesky middle class person or lower.
Didn't Cosby get let off on a technicality? Regardless he is as guilty as sin.
And Whoopi's "rape-rape" comment to do with Polanski is strange to say the least.
Crimson Dynamo
03-02-2022, 06:36 PM
Hitler viewed the world as an arena for the permanent struggle between peoples. He
divided the world population into high and low races. The Germans belonged to the high
peoples and the Jews to the low ones. He also had specific notions about other peoples.
The Slavic people, for instance, were cast as inferior, predestined to be
dominated.Hitler felt that the German people could only be strong if they were 'pure'. As
a consequence, people with hereditary diseases were considered harmful. These
included people with physical or mental disabilities, as well as alcoholics and
'incorrigible' criminals. Once the Nazis had come to power, these ideas led to the forced
sterilisation and killing of human beings.
https://annefrank.freetls.fastly.net/media/filer_public_thumbnails/filer_public/1a/f3/1af3fdc5-b610-4e43-88a3-e5c3c4222ffb/h_70297886.jpg__2160x1296_q85_crop_subsampling-2_upscale.jpg
https://www.annefrank.org/en/anne-frank/go-in-depth/why-did-hitler-hate-jews/
Mystic Mock
03-02-2022, 06:37 PM
I get so tired of non-Jews telling us who we are "technically".
Jews consider themselves a race. Whoopi Goldberg is a racist.
I've checked the definition and it does seem like you and Oliver have a point.
I do apologize on screwing up my facts.
GoldHeart
03-02-2022, 06:52 PM
Oh I was just talking about the term Jewish is meant to mean a follower of Judaism, obviously some people once they get older aren't that religious.
Again as someone that's from a Christian family I have probably developed more into an Agnostic as I've got older.
Hitler though probably hated the fact that a lot of Jewish people are brown skinned which does ironically nuke Whoopi's statement of "it was a war between two white groups."
Like I said earlier Mock ,not sure if you saw my message.
I don't think Whoopi is antisemitic , I think she's just clumsily worded her point. I may be off base but I think the point was how humanity has been abusing & torturing eachother regardless of race,gender , sexuality & disability.
But we all know those groups of people have been persecuted and treated inhumanly . It's still happening around the world.
Whoopie has experienced prejudice herself, she probably wouldn't be where she is today if it wasn't for people like Sidney Poitier & Hattie McDaniel ( bear in mind these 2 actors were still treated like crap behind the scenes). But they paved the way for other black and diverse actors in the industry.
And Hitler's sadistic 'regime' was based entirely on people who looked different and who followed a different religion & culture, it was about both race & religion.
But it wasn't just Jewish people tortured and killed,but anyone who dared to challenge this and other minorities etc. The Nazis had it in for Jewish people,but they didn't care who they killed. That's how brutal it was.
Crimson Dynamo
03-02-2022, 07:04 PM
Like I said earlier Mock ,not sure if you saw my message.
I don't think Whoopi is antisemitic , I think she's just clumsily worded her point. I may be off base but I think the point was how humanity has been abusing & torturing eachother regardless of race,gender , sexuality & disability.
But we all know those groups of people have been persecuted and treated inhumanly . It's still happening around the world.
Whoopie has experienced prejudice herself, she probably wouldn't be where she is today if it wasn't for people like Sidney Poitier & Hattie McDaniel ( bear in mind these 2 actors were still treated like crap behind the scenes). But they paved the way for other black and diverse actors in the industry.
And Hitler's sadistic 'regime' was based entirely on people who looked different and who followed a different religion & culture, it was about both race & religion.
But it wasn't just Jewish people tortured and killed,but anyone who dared to challenge this and other minorities etc. The Nazis had it in for Jewish people,but they didn't care who they killed. That's how brutal it was.
they did care who they killed
they meticulously killed people based on racial purity
to say they killed without care is nonsense
it was planned and efficient
Mystic Mock
03-02-2022, 07:11 PM
Like I said earlier Mock ,not sure if you saw my message.
I don't think Whoopi is antisemitic , I think she's just clumsily worded her point. I may be off base but I think the point was how humanity has been abusing & torturing eachother regardless of race,gender , sexuality & disability.
But we all know those groups of people have been persecuted and treated inhumanly . It's still happening around the world.
Whoopie has experienced prejudice herself, she probably wouldn't be where she is today if it wasn't for people like Sidney Poitier & Hattie McDaniel ( bear in mind these 2 actors were still treated like crap behind the scenes). But they paved the way for other black and diverse actors in the industry.
And Hitler's sadistic 'regime' was based entirely on people who looked different and who followed a different religion & culture, it was about both race & religion.
But it wasn't just Jewish people tortured and killed,but anyone who dared to challenge this and other minorities etc. The Nazis had it in for Jewish people,but they didn't care who they killed. That's how brutal it was.
Hello Goldheart, and yes I did read your earlier post which made some fair points.
And again I agree with a lot of your points in this post.
Mystic Mock
03-02-2022, 07:13 PM
they did care who they killed
they meticulously killed people based on racial purity
to say they killed without care is nonsense
it was planned and efficient
I think she meant that Hitler didn't care who he killed as long as they were different to himself.
GoldHeart
03-02-2022, 07:13 PM
they did care who they killed
they meticulously killed people based on racial purity
to say they killed without care is nonsense
it was planned and efficient
Did you actually pay attention to what I said.
Everyone knows their main target was Jewish people,but they tortured other types of people who they saw as 'inferior' or who didn't agree with them.
The Nazis were evil , zero compassion.
Crimson Dynamo
03-02-2022, 07:16 PM
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The everyday American seems to have very little knowledge on history, including Whoopi Goldberg
All they seem to be know is that ‘the US won WW2’
They couldn’t even place Germany on a map if it came to it
It’s sad, not sure what is wrong with their education system
They even elected Trump on his Mexican wall promise in 2016, were they all uninformed about the disaster of the Berlin Wall?
Did you actually pay attention to what I said.
Everyone knows their main target was Jewish people,but they tortured other types of people who they saw as 'inferior' or who didn't agree with them.
The Nazis were evil , zero compassion.
Don’t sugar coat it, mass murdered
Crimson Dynamo
03-02-2022, 07:39 PM
Did you actually pay attention to what I said.
Everyone knows their main target was Jewish people,but they tortured other types of people who they saw as 'inferior' or who didn't agree with them.
The Nazis were evil , zero compassion.
as i said
they did care who they killed
they meticulously killed people based on racial purity
to say they killed without care is nonsense
it was planned and efficient
GoldHeart
03-02-2022, 07:46 PM
Don’t sugar coat it, mass murdered
I didn't "sugar coat" anything :umm2: . We know it was mass murder.
We all know the horrific atrocities Hitler & the Nazis caused. Nobody can or should ever downplay that .
GoldHeart
03-02-2022, 07:48 PM
I think she meant that Hitler didn't care who he killed as long as they were different to himself.
Exactly !
Crimson Dynamo
03-02-2022, 08:03 PM
I think she meant that Hitler didn't care who he killed as long as they were different to himself.
again totally incorrect
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