Jimmy Carr laughs and jokes about mass murder in the Holocaust - ‘it was a positive’

[glib]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60261876

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7303/production/_123134492_carr_jccs_20210801_00313_rt.jpg

Jimmy Carr is cancelled after his ‘outrageous’ remarks regarding the persecution of 200,000-500,000 Gypsies during the Holocaust, a mere few days after Whoopi Goldberg.

The distasteful joke appears on his Netflix special, which the company are refusing to remove.

Carr began his routine by justifying the mass murder of 200,000-500,000 Gypsies in the 30s and 40s as a ‘positive’

The outrageous comment was greeted by audience cheer and applause

A Scottish MP says he was ‘utterly speechless’, at the joke, whilst Holocaust Memorial Day Trust were ‘appalled’…

Jimmy Carr has always been quite a poor comedian and this insensitive comment has lost him my last bit of respect. This only comes just days after the Whoopi Goldberg stuff.

I watched a programme he was hosting a few months ago, where he genuinely believed minimum wage ‘was £13’. Completely out of touch, needs to get down off his high horse.

[Mystic Mock]

I hope cancel culture is ready for GTA VI.

Seriously these people need to learn to just ignore jokes that they don't like, ffs what is wrong with people at the moment?

[arista]

He is Joking


Netflix will have to edit it out

[arista]

I assume he will go on a Sunday front page

[glib]

I hope cancel culture is ready for GTA VI.

Seriously these people need to learn to just ignore jokes that they don't like, ffs what is wrong with people at the moment?

It’s not a comment you can ‘choose to like or dislike’, and it isn’t a ‘joke’ either, it was a scripted and distastefully executed sentence with no meaning or thought behind it whatsoever, for a few cheap giggles.

Justifying the deaths of half a million, on Holocaust Memorial Day, is not something you ‘can laugh along with’. Their deaths were not justified, no matter how hard you try, even if they do have a ‘bad’ reputation.

Would you be laughing along if I said, on the 15th April, that the Hillsbrough disaster was a positive, as 97 football hooligans with their bad reputations were murdered?

[Mystic Mock]

He is Joking


Netflix will have to edit it out

Or just let people watch it if they want to, and don't if they don't want to watch it.

You know common sense.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

It’s not a comment you can ‘choose to like or dislike’, and it isn’t a ‘joke’ either, it was a scripted and distastefully executed sentence with no meaning or thought behind it whatsoever, for a few cheap giggles.

Justifying the deaths of half a million, on Holocaust Memorial Day, is not something you ‘can laugh along with’. Their deaths were not justified, no matter how hard you try, even if they do have a ‘bad’ reputation.

Would you be laughing along if I said, on the 15th April, that the Hillsbrough disaster was a positive, as 97 football hooligans with their bad reputations were murdered?

Personally I don't support people being censored over jokes, I never have done and never will do.

If an idiot wants to make a distasteful joke about the Hillsborough Disaster then let them, I just won't support them by watching that content.

[glib]

Personally I don't support people being censored over jokes, I never have done and never will do.

If an idiot wants to make a distasteful joke about the Hillsborough Disaster then let them, I just won't support them by watching that content.

He wouldn’t have to be censored if he hadn’t made such an insensitive comment in the first place, he needs to learn to keep his trap shut, just like when he genuinely believed minimum wage was £13, and working class comedians had to embarassingly correct him.

No one is laughing with him with this joke, the audience laughter is edited in, or they are ‘told to laugh’ look a the backlash he’s getting from it

[arista]

On Headliners
GBnewsHD 11AM every night
2 Comedians, review the news for a Hour

There is a Communications Act 127
so he may be prosecuted



https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/21/section/127/2011-06-15

[Mystic Mock]

He wouldn’t have to be censored if he hadn’t made such an insensitive comment in the first place, he needs to learn to keep his trap shut, just like when he genuinely believed minimum wage was £13, and working class comedians had to embarassingly correct him.

No one is laughing with him with this joke, the audience laughter is edited in, or they are ‘told to laugh’ look a the backlash he’s getting from it

I personally believe that if Jimmy Carr ****s up then that's on him, and it should be on him alone.

If as a society we censor everything that we don't want to hear then we can't complain when eventually the censor hammer lands on a Celebrity that we like.

Imo a backlash is fine as long as people don't try to ruin these people's careers over it.

[jet]

It’s not a comment you can ‘choose to like or dislike’, and it isn’t a ‘joke’ either, it was a scripted and distastefully executed sentence with no meaning or thought behind it whatsoever, for a few cheap giggles.

Justifying the deaths of half a million, on Holocaust Memorial Day, is not something you ‘can laugh along with’. Their deaths were not justified, no matter how hard you try, even if they do have a ‘bad’ reputation.

Would you be laughing along if I said, on the 15th April, that the Hillsbrough disaster was a positive, as 97 football hooligans with their bad reputations were murdered?

I agree with this. I'm usually very much against the cancel culture stuff but making a 'joke' about thousands of people losing their lives is a step too far.

[GoldHeart]

Mr ventriloquist dummy clearly wants a reaction and he's got it .

[Mystic Mock]

Mr ventriloquist dummy clearly wants a reaction and he's got it .

That's true.

[jet]

[The comedian went on to say a "positive" of the Holocaust was that thousands of gypsies were murdered. The comments were greeted with applause and laughter.

Between 200,000 and 500,000 Roma and Sinti people were murdered by the Nazis and their collaborators, according to the Holocaust Memorial Day Trust.

The charity's chief executive Olivia Marks-Woldman said: "We are absolutely appalled at Jimmy Carr's comment about persecution suffered by Roma and Sinti people under Nazi oppression, and horrified that gales of laughter followed his remarks.]

"Gales of laughter"!!! WTF is wrong with people. This is appalling.

[Mystic Mock]

[The comedian went on to say a "positive" of the Holocaust was that thousands of gypsies were murdered. The comments were greeted with applause and laughter.

Between 200,000 and 500,000 Roma and Sinti people were murdered by the Nazis and their collaborators, according to the Holocaust Memorial Day Trust.

The charity's chief executive Olivia Marks-Woldman said: "We are absolutely appalled at Jimmy Carr's comment about persecution suffered by Roma and Sinti people under Nazi oppression, and horrified that gales of laughter followed his remarks.]

"Gales of laughter"!!! WTF is wrong with people. This is appalling.

As Glib's said, most of that laughter was probably canned laughter.

I doubt that many people would laugh at a Holocaust joke, I'd like to hope anyway.

[bots]

people just don't understand the concept of comedy anymore. Don't like it, don't watch it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Kz5fm5KmTCY

[Crimson Dynamo]

I hope cancel culture is ready for GTA VI.

Seriously these people need to learn to just ignore jokes that they don't like, ffs what is wrong with people at the moment?

what if a "joke" helps normalise hate towards a race?

[arista]

Only debated on GBnewsHD



BBC and SkyNewsHD
ignored it so far.

[arista]

Mock

[I hope cancel culture is ready for GTA VI]

It is not under any production, sadly
Maybe because PS5 units are not on proper sale yet

[Crimson Dynamo]

Mock

[I hope cancel culture is ready for GTA VI]

It is not under any production, sadly
Maybe because PS5 units are not on proper sale yet

No it said on Scottish news yesterday work at Rockstar has now begun

[Beso]

Shouldnt it be netflix who gets prosecuted for airing this.

[arista]

No it said on Scottish news yesterday work at Rockstar has now begun


Please post us a link

[arista]

SkyNewsHD
and BBCnewsHD are now both covering this.

The BBC had a guest on, if you try to complain to
Ofcom you get link to Nickys nation Netherlands (Netflix Euro base)
so that is no good.

[arista]

Shouldnt it be Netflix who gets prosecuted for airing this.


In the UK
there is no connection
to reach USA Netflix

[Jordan.]

You only get cancelled if you misspeak and apologise for it, jokes are fine.

[glib]

You only get cancelled if you misspeak and apologise for it, jokes are fine.

Not a joke though is it, mister

Im sure if he attacked the homosexual community you would be up in arms

[Jordan.]

sarcasm is lost on you mister

[glib]

Culture Secretary Nadine Dorries said the comments were "abhorrent and they just shouldn't be on television".

Ms Dorries suggested the government could legislate to stop comedy people find offensive being shown on streaming platforms. "We're already looking at future legislation to bring into scope those sort of comments," she told the BBC.

Asked about a previous Tweet where she said "left-wing snowflakes are killing comedy", Ms Dorries replied: "Well, that's not comedy."

[Crimson Dynamo]

Please post us a link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60266275

[Elliot]

People are so sensitive nowadays

[thesheriff443]

People are so sensitive nowadays

You got to be an idiot to think like that.

Imagine if he said the same about muslims

Gypsies are the only minority left that it’s acceptable to be racist towards

The only way you get equality is to treat everyone as equals

[Beso]

It's never a funny joke when you warn people before hand.

[arista]

Comedian Simon Evans
on SkyNewsHD said it's about the Travellers

[arista]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-60266275

Thank You
for your time.

[Mystic Mock]

what if a "joke" helps normalise hate towards a race?

If jokes of any kind are causing problems in society, then it probably was secretly a problem in the first place sadly.

Like for example if someone is watching Family Guy and they agree with Peter Griffin's view of the world then there is no helping that person.

[Crimson Dynamo]

If jokes of any kind are causing problems in society, then it probably was secretly a problem in the first place sadly.

Like for example if someone is watching Family Guy and they agree with Peter Griffin's view of the world then there is no helping that person.

That is a cartoon

I think he chose Gypsies as its an easy target

would he have chosen Muslims?

no

Homosexuals?

no

Transgenders?

no

and his excuse about educating people is proof positive as its bollox

any school kid who learns about the Holocaust is taught precisely who died - jews, slavs, Russians, gypsies, JW, disabled etc

to pretend otherwise is excuse-making

Im not a great fan of "travellers" as they never admit to their anti-social criminal ways (not all) but i think this is hateful and dangerous

[glib]

Im not a great fan of "travellers" as they never admit to their anti-social criminal ways (not all) but i think this is hateful and dangerous

Yes, it teaches Jimmy Carr’s fans, 30+ white males, it is acceptable to be racist, as it will earn you some social points as people laugh

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes, it teaches Jimmy Carr’s fans, 30+ white males, it is acceptable to be racist, as it will earn you some social points as people laugh

yep

[Mystic Mock]

That is a cartoon

I think he chose Gypsies as its an easy target

would he have chosen Muslims?

no

Homosexuals?

no

Transgenders?

no

and his excuse about educating people is proof positive as its bollox

any school kid who learns about the Holocaust is taught precisely who died - jews, slavs, Russians, gypsies, JW, disabled etc

to pretend otherwise is excuse-making

Im not a great fan of "travellers" as they never admit to their anti-social criminal ways (not all) but i think this is hateful and dangerous

We saw the threats that the South Park writers got for depicting Mohammed, I don't think anyone is going there again.:joker:

I personally don't support the joke about the Holocaust, but I just don't want it censored either.

[jet]

That is a cartoon

I think he chose Gypsies as its an easy target

would he have chosen Muslims?

no

Homosexuals?

no

Transgenders?

no

and his excuse about educating people is proof positive as its bollox

any school kid who learns about the Holocaust is taught precisely who died - jews, slavs, Russians, gypsies, JW, disabled etc

to pretend otherwise is excuse-making

Im not a great fan of "travellers" as they never admit to their anti-social criminal ways (not all) but i think this is hateful and dangerous

Absolutely spot on.

[arista]

The Health Secretary
has asked, everyone to boycott Jimmy Carr.


He spoke on times radio today
played on the
One hour 5PM Ch5HD news

[Oliver_W]

What was the actual "joke" ?

[arista]

What was the actual "joke" ?


About Gypsies being Killed
during Hitlers
Burning the bodies, Evil time.

Thats just the Context etc.


No Broadcaster will play it.

[bots]

it was a joke, whether you find it funny is a different matter. It's a pretty sad day when the government thinks it can dictate what people should find funny

[glib]

it was a joke, whether you find it funny is a different matter. It's a pretty sad day when the government thinks it can dictate what people should find funny

It’s not funny though, no one laughed. Not even the gypsies.

[bots]

It’s not funny though, no one laughed. Not even the gypsies.

plenty people laughed in the audience

[glib]

plenty people laughed in the audience

Canned laughter

[bots]

no, not canned laughter, just people exercising their right to laugh when they find something funny

[arista]

What was the actual "joke" ?

Clip of Joke on this Great Tweet.
https://twitter.com/LeoKearse/status/1491142371165470720

[arista]

Oliver
I have Posted the Uncut Joke for you.

[Livia]

I don't have a problem with people joking about the Holocaust. When people are required to have what they laugh at, monitored, well... that's a slippery slope. Everyone knows what Jimmy Carr's humour is like, last night on the news they interviewed various people in the street, NONE of whom had actually seem the show. No one walked out of the show because presumably everyone who'd bought a ticket knew what to expect.

What I DO have a problem with, is the pure, unvarnished ignorance of someone who says that the Holocaust what a dispute between white groups... and actually believe that. Whoopi wasn't joking, she believed that sh*t.

[glib]

I don't have a problem with people joking about the Holocaust.

Why Not? What’s so funny about it.

[glib]

.

What I DO have a problem with, is the pure, unvarnished ignorance of someone who says that the Holocaust what a dispute between white groups... and actually believe that. Whoopi wasn't joking, she believed that sh*t.

Im sure Jimmy was not ignorant when he assured his audience his joke would be ok because ‘only 1000s’ of gypsies died in the Holocaust. Not half a million.

[Toy Soldier]

Why Not? What’s so funny about it.

That's not really how humour works, is it.

To be fair I think Jimmy Carr leans a little heavily into "shock humour" which is, if anything, just a bit outdated these days. It's been done.

[Livia]

Why Not? What’s so funny about it.

Personally,I don't find jokes about the Holocaust funny, but we should be careful about censoring comedy. How far is too far? Who's going to decide?

Comedy versus deep seated ignorance... They're not the same thing.

[Kizzy]

I saw this as in it shines a light on marginalised groups, some it is still shall we say 'fashionable' to mock. The travelling community are being recognised as one of these groups, so to me Jimmy has just picked a scab as it were and it make's us uncomfortable to know many still find themselves dehumanising certain groups who we see as 'not like us'.
The audience were laughing, these are not all the alt right just regular people exposing a bias that like it or not we all possess due to years of social conditioning. So he held a mirror to that, it doesn't mean we all wish harm to travellers but it is an ugly truth that until we are confronted and deal with this like it was/is with other groups then attitudes won't change.

That's the crux of it, it still happens .. don't shoot the messenger.

[Niamh.]

Yes I agree with that Kizzy. I'm not saying he should be censored but he isn't that "edgy or brave" joking about travellers is actually very safe. It wasn't a straightforward Holocaust joke, it was a joke about traveller's, let's be honest

[Beso]

That's not really how humour works, is it.

To be fair I think Jimmy Carr leans a little heavily into "shock humour" which is, if anything, just a bit outdated these days. It's been done.

I agree with that, but I did find most of his material in the dark matters video very very funny.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I saw this as in it shines a light on marginalised groups, some it is still shall we say 'fashionable' to mock. The travelling community are being recognised as one of these groups, so to me Jimmy has just picked a scab as it were and it make's us uncomfortable to know many still find themselves dehumanising certain groups who we see as 'not like us'.
The audience were laughing, these are not all the alt right just regular people exposing a bias that like it or not we all possess due to years of social conditioning. So he held a mirror to that, it doesn't mean we all wish harm to travellers but it is an ugly truth that until we are confronted and deal with this like it was/is with other groups then attitudes won't change.

That's the crux of it, it still happens .. don't shoot the messenger.

has he said he did it deliberately for that reason?

[Niamh.]

has he said he did it deliberately for that reason?Oh did he? Interesting.

[Beso]

I've not forgotten the abuse hughie recieved on TIBB for being a traveller.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh did he? Interesting.

no

[Niamh.]

noOh sorry I misread your post I thought you said he had said that.

I agree with Kizzys points about travellers, I don't agree that Jimmy Carr did it to hold a mirror to the crowd though. I think he just chose a "safe" group to be shocking with

[glib]

Oh sorry I misread your post I thought you said he had said that.

I agree with Kizzys points about travellers, I don't agree that Jimmy Carr did it to hold a mirror to the crowd though. I think he just chose a "safe" group to be shocking with

Um, he knew it was going to be shown on Netflix?

[Niamh.]

Um, he knew it was going to be shown on Netflix?I meant Travellers being the "safe" group to make that joke about, not the audience

[Beso]

Oh sorry I misread your post I thought you said he had said that.

I agree with Kizzys points about travellers, I don't agree that Jimmy Carr did it to hold a mirror to the crowd though. I think he just chose a "safe" group to be shocking with

Are you saying .....If half of Manchester had been slaughtered grotesquely by Hitler's army. If they had won!,Everyone would be fine about in this, in this day and age.

[Niamh.]

Are you saying .....If half of Manchester had been slaughtered grotesquely by Hitler's army. If they had won!,Everyone would be fine about in this, in this day and age.I don't know what you mean by that but that definitely wasn't what I was saying no

[Beso]

Oh sorry I misread your post I thought you said he had said that.

I agree with Kizzys points about travellers, I don't agree that Jimmy Carr did it to hold a mirror to the crowd though. I think he just chose a "safe" group to be shocking with



So you think the same as Jimmy Carr,

..travelleters are a safe group to ridicule grotesquely?

[Toy Soldier]

I'd go a step further to be honest, it's not that the audience laughs because they're ignorant and think it's fine to mock the travelling community... the part that triggers the laugh is that the audience DOES know that some groups are considered "off limits" and others "not so off limits" and the immediate recognition of that incongruence is essentially the entire joke. To break the joke down and make it unfunny... it's not the community that's being mocked, nor the holocaust, it's the selectiveness and hypocrisy that we all know is very real in society. It's social commentary through satire. I haven't actually seen the show though in order to say if it's done well or not. As, to be fair, the level of skill behind a piece of satire really can be make-or-break as to whether or not it hits the mark.

[Toy Soldier]

So you think the same as Jimmy Carr,

..travelleters are a safe group to ridicule grotesquely?

The joke is that they shouldn't be but historically often have been. The irony of course is that the spotlight that's been shone on this issue because of this show may well go some way to improving that situation.

[Niamh.]

So you think the same as Jimmy Carr,



..travelleters are a safe group to ridicule grotesquely?What? I was saying that it was cowardly of Jimmy Carr to pick on Travellers because they're the "safe" minority. Am I really that hard to understand? [emoji28][emoji24]

[Beso]

I'd go a step further to be honest, it's not that the audience laughs because they're ignorant and think it's fine to mock the travelling community... the part that triggers the laugh is that the audience DOES know that some groups are considered "off limits" and others "not so off limits" and the immediate recognition of that incongruence is essentially the entire joke. To break the joke down and make it unfunny... it's not the community that's being mocked, nor the holocaust, it's the selectiveness and hypocrisy that we all know is very real in society. It's social commentary through satire. I haven't actually seen the show though in order to say if it's done well or not. As, to be fair, the level of skill behind a piece of satire really can be make-or-break as to whether or not it hits the mark.

Spot on..

He used the modern world perceptions, but had to drag up one of the worlds history's worst thing to ever happen to highlight it.

All for the tour called "darkest material"


Yawn!!!

It's not 1970s, Jimmy.:nono:

[Beso]

What? I was saying that it was cowardly of Jimmy Carr to pick on Travellers because they're the "safe" minority. Am I really that hard to understand? [emoji28][emoji24]

You agreed with kizzy.:shrug:

[Niamh.]

You agreed with kizzy.:shrug:I agreed with half of her points

[AnnieK]

I agree with that, but I did find most of his material in the dark matters video very very funny.

You said this but now pulling Niamh up for agreeing with another post? The precis for the show is

Vegans. Vaginas. Sperm samples. ER oddities. Pedophilia. Alzheimer’s. Parkinson’s. Schizophrenia. Rape. Abortion. The Holocaust. Nothing’s off limits for Carr

Some pretty risque topics that you have said you found very very funny......:shrug:

[Beso]

You said this but now pulling Niamh up for agreeing with another post? The precis for the show is

Vegans. Vaginas. Sperm samples. ER oddities. Pedophilia. Alzheimer’s. Parkinson’s. Schizophrenia. Rape. Abortion. The Holocaust. Nothing’s off limits for Carr

Some pretty risque topics that you have said you found very very funny......:shrug:

His delivery cant be argued with.:shrug:

[Niamh.]

You said this but now pulling Niamh up for agreeing with another post? The precis for the show is

Vegans. Vaginas. Sperm samples. ER oddities. Pedophilia. Alzheimer’s. Parkinson’s. Schizophrenia. Rape. Abortion. The Holocaust. Nothing’s off limits for Carr

Some pretty risque topics that you have said you found very very funny......:shrug:Oh wow, I actually haven't watched his full show, that's pretty gruesome so maybe I was wrong in thinking he picked travellers as an easy target in that case. I don't think I'll like it but I think I might watch it just to see how the whole show plays out anyway

[Kizzy]

I agreed with half of her points

Will you never learn... don't even agree with half of anything I say :nono:

[Niamh.]

Will you never learn... don't even agree with half of anything I say :nono:[emoji28]

[GoldHeart]

Oh wow, I actually haven't watched his full show, that's pretty gruesome so maybe I was wrong in thinking he picked travellers as an easy target in that case. I don't think I'll like it but I think I might watch it just to see how the whole show plays out anyway

Jimmy Carr has always been like that ,the same with Ricky Gervais.

If nothing is off limits then it's pretty much like the TV show Family Guy with the humour. I'm not even surprised tbh.

[Niamh.]

Ricky Gervais is hilarious though

[Toy Soldier]

Jimmy Carr has always been like that ,the same with Ricky Gervais.



If nothing is off limits then it's pretty much like the TV show Family Guy with the humour. I'm not even surprised tbh.Like I said it can be down to the skill of the delivery though. So for example, things are just as "off limits" in South Park as they are in Family Guy but the SP writers have frankly 10x the skill, nuance and ability to weave a social commentary and so South Park's satire pretty much always hits its mark these days (though wasn't as sharp in its early seasons) , where Family Guy has had its moments but for the most part is a scattershot of stuff that often misses the mark completely.

To use your other examples in this post; Gervais is a FAR more skilled satirist and social commentator than Carr. Especially with more recent stuff. In fact I reckon he could have landed this exact same joke without half the controversy and as a much clearer commentary than Carr.

[GoldHeart]

Ricky Gervais is hilarious though

Yeah I've always preferred his comedy, he's strangely good at serious stuff aswell where there's both comedy & drama like 'Derek' & 'Afterlife'.

[glib]

Jimmy carr is a thin balding little twerp in a suit who need to **** off

[Vicky.]

I dont know how I feel about certain topics being off limits in comedy tbh, I dont really think anything should be as long as its done right. However if you are just picking 'easy' 'targets' then you are a bit of a knob really. I don't really watch comedy stuff besides Dave Chapelle these days though so my opinion is probably worth **** all :laugh:

[arista]

On the Bottom of page 2
a twitter link has the Joke uncut.

The Audience Laughed



For this Netflix show
it is typical of his style

[Kizzy]

Like I said it can be down to the skill of the delivery though. So for example, things are just as "off limits" in South Park as they are in Family Guy but the SP writers have frankly 10x the skill, nuance and ability to weave a social commentary and so South Park's satire pretty much always hits its mark these days (though wasn't as sharp in its early seasons) , where Family Guy has had its moments but for the most part is a scattershot of stuff that often misses the mark completely.

To use your other examples in this post; Gervais is a FAR more skilled satirist and social commentator than Carr. Especially with more recent stuff. In fact I reckon he could have landed this exact same joke without half the controversy and as a much clearer commentary than Carr.

I'm confused by this, if the same joke is told how could it without causing offence?
The difference is the delivery, Carr's style is deadpan that's what his fans expect. If you told it in the rambling monologue we would expect from Gervais it just wouldn't be the same joke.
But the subject and the premise is the same.

[Livia]

Of we censor comedy and judge people who laugh at questionable.jokes, how.long till we're burning books we don't approve of?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Of we censor comedy and judge people who laugh at questionable.jokes, how.long till we're burning books we don't approve of?

with the upcoming one from Prince Harry in the pipeline

hopefully soon


:fc:

[Livia]

with the upcoming one from Prince Harry in the pipeline

hopefully soon


:fc:

That's fair comment... Maybe we can just burn that one.

[Kizzy]

The only books that have ever been burned are anti establishment and/or ordered by the establishment. Everything else is fair game.

[Livia]

That's what the Nazis said.

[Kizzy]

Nope they didn't. .. I just said it now.

It's all fun and games until the group being mocked is one you are in, then it's offensive. Unless you have achieved protected status and the joke sees them 'cancelled'.

[bots]

a book appearing in pound land is the equivalent of a burning these days

[GoldHeart]

Nope they didn't. .. I just said it now.

It's all fun and games until the group being mocked is one you are in, then it's offensive. Unless you have achieved protected status and the joke sees them 'cancelled'.

That's a good point Kizzy.

And it was only later on some of us found out Jimmy Carr being Jimmy Carr was joking about alot of other risque subjects by looks ,which I'm not surprised at. Because as we know there's comedians who have a 'nothing is off limits' humour.

And Jimmy loves the controversy , so he'll do his dead pan ventriloquist dummy face or he'll laugh like a seal . That's what he's known for.

[Kizzy]

Lots do, Ricky Gervais is shocking in his live shows, Frank Boyle, Stewart Lee, they are known for being Unfiltered.

Are we really so upset about this jibe at travellers, Why..has anyone actually stopped and asked why this is the news story of the week? I see this as a welcome diversion by the media to avoid other issues.
Not saying it shouldn't be spoken about but the whole spin smacks of a diversion tactic.

[GoldHeart]

Yeah Frankie Boyle is terrible,I've never liked his humour.

His 'joke' about Katie Price's Son Harvey, was grotesque and not funny. You'd think joking about a disabled child would be off limits but not for him. And he never got cancelled , he's still popular than ever.

[Kizzy]

Yeah Frankie Boyle is terrible,I've never liked his humour.

His 'joke' about Katie Price's Son Harvey, was grotesque and not funny. You'd think joking about a disabled child would be off limits but not for him. And he never got cancelled , he's still popular than ever.
Do you know why?... Because he is Katie Prices son, she is held up for ridicule because it's acceptable to mock her.
In the same way as travellers are, she is seen as in some way 'less than'.

[Niamh.]

Yeah Frankie Boyle is terrible,I've never liked his humour.



His 'joke' about Katie Price's Son Harvey, was grotesque and not funny. You'd think joking about a disabled child would be off limits but not for him. And he never got cancelled , he's still popular than ever.Not only that but he had the cheek a few years later to say a joke Ricky Gervais made about Caitlin Jenner was too far and "low hanging fruit"!

I do agree though that was one of the worst I've heard simply because he wasn't joking about a group or an adult who put themselves in the spotlight but an individual disabled child, that could be considered bullying imo

[GoldHeart]

Do you know why?... Because he is Katie Prices son, she is held up for ridicule because it's acceptable to mock her.
In the same way as travellers are, she is seen as in some way 'less than'.

Not only that but he had the cheek a few years later to say a joke Ricky Gervais made about Caitlin Jenner was too far and "low hanging fruit"!

I do agree though that was one of the worst I've heard simply because he wasn't joking about a group or an adult who put themselves in the spotlight but an individual disabled child, that could be considered bullying imo


Yeah that's pretty messed up that Harvey got picked on just because he's Katie Price's Son. The thing is if Frankie Boyle had a brain he could have come up with something witty ,about Katie herself instead of dragging an innocent disabled child into it who can't defend himself.

As for the travelling community, I agree it seems they've always been made fun of or seen in a bad light. And those C4 big fat gypsy wedding programmes don't help matters.

Ikr he actually had the nerve to call Gervais' joke "going too far" . what a bliddy delusional hypocrite Boyle is seriously :crazy: :joker: he's an idiot.

[arista]

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