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Another day in Woketown and a training session funded by the National Education Union (NEU) has ordered its teachers not to use the words ‘boy and girl’ as it isn’t ‘inclusive’
It has also been recommended children are not exposed to basic vocabulary such as ‘son’ and ‘mother’, as it is ‘exclusionary’, and kids as young as 3 are being told they need to ‘drop Mr & Mrs’ and use ‘Teacher’ instead, to grab the attention of the ‘educational consultant’.
So, Teacher, are the 3 year olds you are refusing to teach basic vocabulary offended?
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Pictured ‘Dr’ Elly Barnes MBE, who has demanded students don’t use the words Mr or Mrs
The Union had to pay the grand sum of Ł400 just for Mrs Barnes to tell teachers not to teach kids the word boy and mother
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10513149/amp/No-Sir-Miss-charity-calls-children-use-gender-free-terms-like-Teacher.html
Niamh.
15-02-2022, 03:44 PM
It's a real attack on language at this stage, if we have no way to actually all understand each other things will get very murky
Using terms like Mr & Mrs and Ms is actually being polite and respectful. Take that out of the school and it will make classes a bigger mess than they already are
Crimson Dynamo
15-02-2022, 03:58 PM
:joker: this has got to be a piss-take
Elly Barnes is actually an MBE, which was awarded to her services for ‘equality and diversity’
Cherie
15-02-2022, 04:07 PM
What will kids refer to the teacher as if not Miss and Sir :shrug:
Oh they have to say Teacher...lol
Livia
15-02-2022, 04:10 PM
So rather than exclude a tiny minority they're going to exclude a vast majority. Smart...
Oliver_W
15-02-2022, 04:44 PM
What will kids refer to the teacher as if not Miss and Sir :shrug:
Oh they have to say Teacher...lol
This ties into what I was about to say - I thought it stupid when some "think"tank went on about how the terms Sir and Miss aren't equal, because Sir sounds more important ...
But there's nothing inclusive about removing the acknowledgement of sex. Not that I think anyone will take these demands seriously.
user104658
15-02-2022, 05:01 PM
Meanwhile, it seems that every actual, reputable human rights organisation has realised that all sense of anything resembling balance has been lost and is stepping away from Stonewall and this sort of rhetoric...
user104658
15-02-2022, 05:08 PM
What will kids refer to the teacher as if not Miss and Sir :shrug:
Oh they have to say Teacher...lol
To be fair schools here (currently, and at the very least, as far back as when I started school in 1990 :omgno: ) call teachers Mr/Miss/Mrs Smith etc. which I much prefer to the old fashioned/authoritarian-flavoured "Sir/Miss".
I don't know what they're suppised to do if neither is an option though :think:. "Shazza". "Bob" :joker:
michael21
15-02-2022, 05:14 PM
What will kids refer to the teacher as if not Miss and Sir :shrug:
Oh they have to say Teacher...lol
You there
GoldHeart
15-02-2022, 05:14 PM
To be fair schools here (currently, and at the very least, as far back as when I started school in 1990 :omgno: ) call teachers Mr/Miss/Mrs Smith etc. which I much prefer to the old fashioned/authoritarian-flavoured "Sir/Miss".
I don't know what they're suppised to do if neither is an option though :think:. "Shazza". "Bob" :joker:
Funny thing is if you then called the teacher by their first name,then you'd be in trouble.
Kids can't just call a teacher 'teacher' . It was the same when I was a kid I remember calling teachers "Mr Smith" e.g & "Miss Jones" etc and so on .
its a long long time since i was in school and we didn't use sir/miss then unless the lady was a miss
I think Scotland has an aversion to calling anyone Sir and always has :laugh:
Niamh.
15-02-2022, 05:21 PM
To be fair schools here (currently, and at the very least, as far back as when I started school in 1990 :omgno: ) call teachers Mr/Miss/Mrs Smith etc. which I much prefer to the old fashioned/authoritarian-flavoured "Sir/Miss".
I don't know what they're suppised to do if neither is an option though :think:. "Shazza". "Bob" :joker:
Funny thing is if you then called the teacher by their first name,then you'd be in trouble.
Kids can't just call a teacher 'teacher' . It was the same when I was a kid I remember calling teachers "Mr Smith" e.g & "Miss Jones" etc and so on .
My brothers kids go to a gaelscoil which is an Irish speaking school and they call their teachers múinteoir Sarah etc which mean Teacher and then the teachers first name
GoldHeart
15-02-2022, 05:26 PM
My brothers kids go to a gaelscoil which is an Irish speaking school and they call their teachers múinteoir Sarah etc which mean Teacher and then the teachers first name
That's interesting I didn't know that .
I can't imagine kids in other places being allowed to say the teacher's first name, even if they put "Teacher" before it .
Crimson Dynamo
15-02-2022, 05:28 PM
when i was at school it was Sir and Miss
when i was at school it was Sir and Miss
We aren’t in the 60s anymore
When I went to school Sir made me do PE in my underpants. We sang hymns and said prayers. The headmaster would set the cock of the school on any bullies or alternatively tan your arse with a slipper.
Great days!
Mystic Mock
16-02-2022, 12:58 AM
It's a real attack on language at this stage, if we have no way to actually all understand each other things will get very murky
Most people thankfully will call this bollocks out and they'll have to reverse the decision.
I do agree with you though Niamh.
Kizzy
16-02-2022, 01:14 AM
When I went to school Sir made me do PE in my underpants. We sang hymns and said prayers. The headmaster would set the cock of the school on any bullies or alternatively tan your arse with a slipper.
Great days!
How odd to feel nostalgic about abuse...welcome to conditioning.
How odd to feel nostalgic about abuse...welcome to conditioning.It was old school style of abuse, before abuse got such a bad name.
So what if these kids are asked what their favourite TV show is and it just so happens that one kids favourite show is Mr & Mrs?
Do they have to stop liking that show as their favourite because those words are offensive to some selfish bastards out there?
Oliver_W
16-02-2022, 09:49 AM
So what if these kids are asked what their favourite TV show is and it just so happens that one kids favourite show is Mr & Mrs?
Do they have to stop liking that show as their favourite because those words are offensive to some selfish bastards out there?
Let's not take this so seriously - no-one's going to listen to her, it's not gonna catch on. Just laugh at the weirdo who thinks she can erase language.
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