Should Chelsea owner Abramovic be sanctioned?

[Denver]

Its an interesting scenario where parliment have questioned why the man closest to Putin has not yet faced any sanctions with the tories protecting him because he has an Israeli passport, surely attacking the person closest to Putin will hurt him the most?

[arista]

No

[UserSince2005]

Yes. take her down.

[Denver]

No

Why? Why should people who are against murdering thousands of innocent people for no reason be allowed to do what they want in the world?

[thesheriff443]

Yes he should and every other rich person that has connections to Russia
Being rich equals being in control and having connections to other powerful people in government and around the world.

Putin desperately needs a few rounds to the back of the head.

[Nicky91]

yes of course, no russians should be welcome in our europe


Ban all russian teams from entering any european cup competition as well


Ban Russia from the UEFA, no more rights to go to the world cups, euro cups

[Alf]

Yes, take his money of him and donate it all to the Clinton foundation.

[bots]

Ibramovich was very nearly in jail in moscow, he is no friend of putin. He agreed to pay putin a large slice of his fortune to settle the issue

[glib]

He was sanctioned long before this thread was made, please read the news.

[Denver]

He was sanctioned long before this thread was made, please read the news.

No he hasn't

[Nicky91]

Yes he should and every other rich person that has connections to Russia
Being rich equals being in control and having connections to other powerful people in government and around the world.

Putin desperately needs a few rounds to the back of the head.

+1

asap

[Cherie]

Ibramovich was very nearly in jail in moscow, he is no friend of putin. He agreed to pay putin a large slice of his fortune to settle the issue

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[Denver]

You are crazy if you think they are not close freinds

[Denver]

There is at least 20 more Russian Billionaires they can go after, ban them for life from the UK, freeze all assets they are holding in the UK

[bots]

You are crazy if you think they are not close freinds

maybe you should educate yourself a bit more

[Denver]

maybe you should educate yourself a bit more

Give me 1 strong piece of evidence they are not freinds

[bots]

Give me 1 strong piece of evidence they are not freinds

i think the recorded fact that Abramovich was under arrest in Moscow and agreed to pay putin billions of dollars in order to go free is evidence enough

[Denver]

i think the recorded fact that Abramovich was under arrest in Moscow and agreed to pay putin billions of dollars in order to go free is evidence enough

And you realise how close they have become since then?

[The Slim Reaper]

Geordies and blue mancs reading this thread


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[Denver]

i think the recorded fact that Abramovich was under arrest in Moscow and agreed to pay putin billions of dollars in order to go free is evidence enough

Also to add to this he has links to a lot of companies that have now been sanctioned by the UK so why is Boris protecting certain people and refusing to sanction any one with either links to Putin or making money for Russia

[arista]

You got your wish
he has handed the control over

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60540278

[UserSince2005]

Bbc reporting about the “second city” (Kharkiv) being taken. BBC don’t know ****. Anyone who knows ukraine knows the second city is Lviv. It would be like describing Birmingham as the uks second city.

[Mystic Mock]

Yes, take his money of him and donate it all to the Clinton foundation.

Or BCFC.:hehe:

[Mystic Mock]

Bbc reporting about the “second city” (Kharkiv) being taken. BBC don’t know ****. Anyone who knows ukraine knows the second city is Lviv. It would be like describing Birmingham as the uks second city.

Birmingham is the UK's second City.:joker:

[user104658]

On what grounds? "Because he's Russian and we suspect he's pals with Putin" is not any sort of legal argument ... edging a little close to the ideology behindn the Japanese internment camps in the US, IMO.

[Denver]

On what grounds? "Because he's Russian and we suspect he's pals with Putin" is not any sort of legal argument ... edging a little close to the ideology behindn the Japanese internment camps in the US, IMO.

And.the fact he has brought a lot if dodgy business to the UK nothing he owns is legit and he has stakes in things that have been sanctioned, he is trying to palm Chelsea off as he knows he is guilty

[Denver]

He has been sanctioned, the club cant be sold, tickets can't be sold, merchandise can't be sold, transfer in and out are banned and no new contracts are allowed

[James]

Are they going to be able to pay their players and staff?

[James]

Abramovich sanctions - What we know so far

Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich sanctioned by UK government

Premier League club frozen as part of action; proposed sale halted for time being

Chelsea club shop must close, no more match tickets can be sold

Fans who bought season tickets or individual match tickets before today can attend games.

Club can fulfil fixtures and pay wages of all employees, including players and coaching staff.

They can pay "reasonable" costs of travel to and from fixtures but not exceeding £20,000 per game per team.

Pay "reasonable" costs towards hosting home fixtures, not exceeding £500,000 per fixture per team.

Broadcasters can broadcast any fixture involving the club.


From BBC Sport.

[bots]

Are they going to be able to pay their players and staff?

yes, they have been issued with a license that allows them to pay staff, the biggest restriction is that from today they cant sell any merchandise or match day tickets. Season ticket holders can still attend matches

[Cherie]

He will have to hand it over for nothing...he says he loves the Club that is his only option

[Cherie]

Shirt sponsor 3 reviewing its position

[Crimson Dynamo]

From BBC Sport.

crikey

[Denver]

yes, they have been issued with a license that allows them to pay staff, the biggest restriction is that from today they cant sell any merchandise or match day tickets. Season ticket holders can still attend matches

They don't have the money to be able too do so, they have about £16m in the bank according to their last financial year but wages are around £28m a year.

They heavily rely on his money to stay afloat

[James]

'There is no template for dealing with this type of situation'

Simon Stone

BBC Sport

There is no template for dealing with this type of situation and football's authorities are scrambling to work out the finer points.

For Chelsea, some elements are straightforward - and tricky.

They cannot offer new contracts - so the futures of Antonio Rudiger, Andreas Christensen and skipper Cesar Azpilicueta are uncertain. The loan of Saul Niguez will not be turned into a permanent deal. Chelsea cannot sell the numerous players they have on loan, including Armando Broja, who has impressed so much at Southampton. Presumably numerous younger players they would have given contracts to now will not get them.

But what about the detail? Can Chelsea sell tickets to their own fans for away games given they as a club do not benefit?

What will happen to the FA Cup semi-final - if they get there - when receipts are split between clubs?

Can Premier League clubs like Brentford - who were part-way through selling their away allocation for their trip to Stamford Bridge on 2 April - still do so, or do they have to stop?

And as for the £20,000 limit on expenses for away games, Chelsea have matches next week at Lille and Middlesbrough. Both would cost substantially more than £20,000. Can individuals make contributions or will Chelsea have to reduce the cost with a less expensive form of accommodation for Thomas Tuchel's side?

Clearly, the sale of the club needs to happen quickly if there is not to be a major impact. But that is in the hands of the government.

Roman Abramovich's funding meant Chelsea emerged from the financial impact of Covid-19 relatively unscathed. They will not escape from this.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/football/60688168

[bots]

I think its a very tricky one. The government have frozen the assets, so nothing can be done with resolving its ownership. I have no idea what the clubs liquidity is like, but with no money coming in, there is a finite window while the club can pay wages. Sanctions could last for years

[Swan]

According to The Times (sorry no link, just quoting a tweet)

"The Government would need to give special dispensation to allow the sale to go ahead and Abramovich would be barred from receiving any funds"

"He will not a penny from the sale of the club" According to a Government source.

I'm not against this happening to Roman, but many jobs would be at risk (and im not talking about the footballers, higher paid staff etc), ground staff, shop staff, stewards and so on. Also a club like Chelsea does contribute well to the economy. Of course being a Chelsea fan I'm probably coming across bias, but the fact of the matter is there is a knock on affect here. The Government need to take all this into consideration.

[Cherie]

According to The Times (sorry no link, just quoting a tweet)



I'm not against this happening to Roman, but many jobs would be at risk (and im not talking about the footballers, higher paid staff etc), ground staff, shop staff, stewards and so on. Also a club like Chelsea does contribute well to the economy. Of course being a Chelsea fan I'm probably coming across bias, but the fact of the matter is there is a knock on affect here. The Government need to take all this into consideration.

I feel it will be taken over by one of those interested parties, but for a nominal sum, wont be the first time a football club changed hands for £1.00

[Alf]

Jumpers for goalposts.

[Nicky91]

ridiculous but ok


i mean sanctions weren't necessary since he already was going to step down and sell Chelsea to a new owner



should Boris Johnson also get sanctioned? for his illegal christmas parties?

[bots]

I feel it will be taken over by one of those interested parties, but for a nominal sum, wont be the first time a football club changed hands for £1.00

that won't fly. If it's considered ill gotten gains, there is nothing to stop a pal of his picking the club up for a song. I think it will eventually be run by some sort of trust

[bots]

Chelsea are trying to get it overturned

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By virtue of his 100 per cent ownership of Chelsea FC plc and affiliated entities, Chelsea FC would normally be subject to the same sanctions regime as Mr Abramovich. However, the UK Government has issued a general licence that permits Chelsea FC to continue certain activities.

We will fulfil our men’s and women’s team fixtures today against Norwich and West Ham, respectively, and intend to engage in discussions with the UK Government regarding the scope of the licence. This will include seeking permission for the licence to be amended in order to allow the Club to operate as normal as possible. We will also be seeking guidance from the UK Government on the impact of these measures on the Chelsea Foundation and its important work in our communities.

The Club will update further when it is appropriate to do so.

[Cherie]

Chelsea are trying to get it overturned

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By virtue of his 100 per cent ownership of Chelsea FC plc and affiliated entities, Chelsea FC would normally be subject to the same sanctions regime as Mr Abramovich. However, the UK Government has issued a general licence that permits Chelsea FC to continue certain activities.

We will fulfil our men’s and women’s team fixtures today against Norwich and West Ham, respectively, and intend to engage in discussions with the UK Government regarding the scope of the licence. This will include seeking permission for the licence to be amended in order to allow the Club to operate as normal as possible. We will also be seeking guidance from the UK Government on the impact of these measures on the Chelsea Foundation and its important work in our communities.

The Club will update further when it is appropriate to do so.

Raab is a Chelsea fan ...he will own the Club next week :laugh:

[arista]

[should Boris Johnson also get sanctioned? for his illegal christmas parties?]


No it was on Crown Property.
Police have it in the long grass,


[10 Downing Street: Crown Lands and Estates]