The UK are 2nd favourites to win Eurovision 2022

[Denver]

Its the highest they have been in the betting since Blue 11 years back.

While the song or artist hasn't been revealed their are loads of rumours from London Grammer, Sam Ryder, Griff, Chelsee Grimes and Claudia Valentina with Sam Ryder being the strongest rumour after releasing a 3 min edited version of his new song Spaceman.

Sam is very famous on Social media after finding fame over lockdown for his singing videos on Tik Tok where he has over 15m followers

[glib]

No we aren’t

[GoldHeart]

Why are we still in the Eurovision

[LaLaLand]

How are we 5th favourite if the people who actually vote for the winner haven't heard the song?

Bull. We'll never win ever again. Be a miracle if we ever got back on the left hand side of the score board tbh.

[Denver]

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This is like 99% likely to be the entrant, it has had a revamp and cut some of it out to fit 3 mins

[glib]

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This is like 99% likely to be the entrant, it has had a revamp and cut some of it out to fit 3 mins

Sounds boring, definitely not a winner.

[glib]

What don’t we learn about sending all these men on their own to Eurovision - even SuRie did better than last.

None of our former winners have been single men… just established bands and established women.

[Denver]

Sounds boring, definitely not a winner.

Nobody is expecting a winner straight off the bat, it takes progression and this is out best song in 13 years hence why since this song was all but confirmed our odds have shortened to 5rh favourite

[Denver]

What don’t we learn about sending all these men on their own to Eurovision - even SuRie did better than last.

None of our former winners have been single men… just established bands and established women.

It's got nothing to do with the singer being male more so that they have not had a male capable of giving a great performance something which Sam is fantastic at, you really need to check up is songs especially Tiny Riot

[glib]

It's got nothing to do with the singer being male more so that they have not had a male capable of giving a great performance something which Sam is fantastic at, you really need to check up is songs especially Tiny Riot

We sent Engelbert Humperdinck though :conf:

[user104658]

Betti g odds are (in large part) based on what people are betting on which doesn't necessarily reflect the likelihood of actually winning, especially when the voter pool and betting pool are different.

I.e. These odds are coming from the bets of the British public, who have a large component betting patriotically, but they have no actual sway over who will win, so the odds can skew in ways that are incongruent with the likely outcome.

[glib]

I.e. These odds are coming from the bets of the British public, who have a large component betting patriotically, but they have no actual sway over who will win, so the odds can skew in ways that are incongruent with the likely outcome.

Even Brits themselves don’t think they can even be top favourite , it has to be 5th

[Denver]

Betti g odds are (in large part) based on what people are betting on which doesn't necessarily reflect the likelihood of actually winning, especially when the voter pool and betting pool are different.

I.e. These odds are coming from the bets of the British public, who have a large component betting patriotically, but they have no actual sway over who will win, so the odds can skew in ways that are incongruent with the likely outcome.
But we have never had odds this low since Blue in 2011, Odds show that people have some sort of faith for them to be betting on it

[Denver]

We sent Engelbert Humperdinck though :conf:

Englebert gave a great performance with a good song but the only issue is we sent a winning song 30-40 years to late

[glib]

Englebert gave a great performance with a good song but the only issue is we sent a winning song 30-40 years to late

Yes that’s true

We also used to send well known artists in their prime and got high placing
e.g. Mary Hopkin, New Seekers, Cliff, Shadows, Lynsey De Paul etc come to mind

Our streak ended in 1978 when unsurprisingly we sent a totally new group no had ever heard of, ‘Co-Co’

[Denver]

Yes that’s true

We also used to send well known artists in their prime and got high placing
e.g. Mary Hopkin, New Seekers, Cliff, Shadows, Lynsey De Paul etc come to mind

Our streak ended in 1978 when unsurprisingly we sent a totally new group no had ever heard of, ‘Co-Co’

Is always mixed, Total nobody Jade Ewan managed to get us 5th in 2009 and former ex factor contestant Lucie Jones got us our best result since then with 15th but on that time we sent Blue (who would have charted a lot higher if they actually performed the rehearsal properly) Bonnie Tyler who despite having a great voice used the worse song on her upcoming Album and Englbert who was decades way to late

[glib]

Just read Ukraine are favourites to win Eurovision this year, sympathy votes

So if they win wheres that going to be held, the trenches ?

[michael21]

Its the highest they have been in the betting since Blue 11 years back.

While the song or artist hasn't been revealed their are loads of rumours from London Grammer, Sam Ryder, Griff, Chelsee Grimes and Claudia Valentina with Sam Ryder being the strongest rumour after releasing a 3 min edited version of his new song Spaceman.

Sam is very famous on Social media after finding fame over lockdown for his singing videos on Tik Tok where he has over 15m followers


Wtf is 5 favourite :conf:

You eather favourite or you not

[Mitchell]

We’ve not got a chance whilst Ben Adams is in a yellow wolf outfit for Norway

[glib]

We’ve not got a chance whilst Ben Adams is in a yellow wolf outfit for Norway

That’s white supremacy

[Livia]

Everyone I know will be voting for Ukraine. It's just a party this year... No competition this time in my eyes.

[Nicky91]

Just read Ukraine are favourites to win Eurovision this year, sympathy votes

So if they win wheres that going to be held, the trenches ?

no, then it'll likely go to a random drawn country


maybe Dusseldorf once more, given that one was also picked by a Australia back in 2016 when they were contenders to win with Dami


or maybe Glasgow or Aberdeen given that one got picked by EBU once before when Monaco had their win and they couldn't host due to not having a suitable venue

[Nicky91]

Everyone I know will be voting for Ukraine. It's just a party this year... No competition this time in my eyes.

not going to bother getting fully interested into it this year


for sure how my main interests are going to American song contest


having looked through some of artists i didn't know before there, but all in all lots of talent what NBC have approached alongside Atlantic Records


and i can see Michael Bolton being a HUGE favourite for the housewives vote demographic, haven't heard his song yet of course, but based upon all his past work


imo for Riker Lynch with a lot of girls voting for him (also he has a song from the swedish team Jimmy Jansson, Andreas Carlsson and US rock composer Desmond Child)

[Nicky91]

Sam's voice is not my cup of tea, way too pitchy, even Elton John doesn't sing that high



also what is his song about, ''i'm up in space, man'' umm being high from drugs? :umm2:

[glib]

Sam's voice is not my cup of tea, way too pitchy, even Elton John doesn't sing that high



also what is his song about, ''i'm up in space, man'' umm being high from drugs? :umm2:

Half of elton’s songs were about being high

[UserSince2005]

This song is weird, I couldnt actually understand what hes singing because he pronunciation isnt very good but ive looked up the lyrics and he actually doesnt sing about a "space man" at all, hes singing "space, man".
Strange lyrics/song. but his voice is good.

[UserSince2005]

Sam's voice is not my cup of tea, way too pitchy, even Elton John doesn't sing that high



also what is his song about, ''i'm up in space, man'' umm being high from drugs? :umm2:

I guess that makes sense, I thought he was singing "I'm up a space man". lol. Thought maybe Tim Peake had been bottoming for him.

[Mystic Mock]

It actually sounds decent.:shocked:

[Kizzy]

Why are we still in the Eurovision

The UK is in Europe.. Geography not your strong suit?

[glib]

The UK is in Europe.. Geography not your strong suit?

Australia is in Eurovision but isn’t in Europe. Eurovision not your strong suit?

[glib]

Why are we still in the Eurovision

I’ll give you the correct answer
Cheap programming for the BBC 3-4 hours every Saturday night once a year, and the semis on bbc4 too

[GoldHeart]

The UK is in Europe.. Geography not your strong suit?

I'm well aware of that, but what about the mess that is Brexit.

[GoldHeart]

Yeah I don't know why Australia is in Eurovision contest,when they're nothing to do with Europe. Strange.

[Nicky91]

I’ll give you the correct answer
Cheap programming for the BBC 3-4 hours every Saturday night once a year, and the semis on bbc4 too

semi's are on BBC3, not anymore on BBC4 now

[Nicky91]

Yeah I don't know why Australia is in Eurovision contest,when they're nothing to do with Europe. Strange.

because they've broadcasted the contest for over more than 40 years


and contributed to the contest many times too before their debut


Johnny Logan, Gina G, many others born in australia



can see same thing happening for Kazakhstan as well, when they've shown interest long enough, they are already in junior eurovision for last 4 years on invitation and proven to be quite popular and doing well results wise either

[glib]

I'm well aware of that, but what about the mess that is Brexit.

Well in Brexit the U.K. left the EU, not Europe :laugh: did you know what you were voting for..?

[user104658]

I'm well aware of that, but what about the mess that is Brexit.

The EU and Europe are not the same thing... There are (and have always been) loads of non-EU countries in Eurovision. And as has been pointed out, even some non-European countries who just wanted in on the fun, such as Israel and Australia and (until this year...) Russia.

[glib]

The EU and Europe are not the same thing... There are (and have always been) loads of non-EU countries in Eurovision. And as has been pointed out, even some non-European countries who just wanted in on the fun, such as Israel and Australia and (until this year...) Russia.

Well Russia is in Europe

[bots]

Well Russia is in Europe

it's not actually. It stretches across several continents, but the majority of it is in asia with areas bordering europe

By any standard definition it is considered asian

[jet]

It actually sounds decent.:shocked:

Yes, I like it. It's the best entry we've had for years. But in the last few years the European countries have given the UK either few marks or none at all, so I don't hold out much hope of it being top 10.

[Nicky91]

The EU and Europe are not the same thing... There are (and have always been) loads of non-EU countries in Eurovision. And as has been pointed out, even some non-European countries who just wanted in on the fun, such as Israel and Australia and (until this year...) Russia.

Israel belongs with europe more, like they also are members within the UEFA after having gotten expelled from Asia's AFC because of being troublemakers, regarding rival clashes with Jordan, Palestine, Iran

Kazakhstan are association members, but they are eager to become full members of EBU, they are already full members of UEFA


Kazakhstan are one part in europe, another part in asia, and they can potentially take part at adult ESC via their european side broadcaster which they already use for JESC (junior eurovision)

[glib]

it's not actually. It stretches across several continents, but the majority of it is in asia with areas bordering europe

By any standard definition it is considered asian

‘Stretches across several continents’ , no it stretches across 2, Europe and Asia

The bit where most people live is in Europe
And Kaliningrad is firmly embedded in Europe

So I am free to say Russia is in Europe if I want

[Nicky91]

Sam is going to Bulgaria to record the live on tape, same as Greece's Amanda

[jet]

All the kids in the family love the Norway song about giving the wolf a banana.
I like it myself. :laugh:

[Denver]

We have drew second half and after the 2nd rehearsal we have gone 2nd favourite in some markets, we have a really strong chance of winning this year

[Liam-]

We’re not winning

[Denver]

We’re not winning

This is the best chance we have had since Katrina, he won a big pre show jury vote and is performing near the top on every genuine poll and vote and he will perform in the second half and we already know how fantastic his rehearsal has gone, there is a very strong chance he wins the jury vote

[Liam-]

I genuinely don’t see anybody but Ukraine winning this year

[Nicky91]

I genuinely don’t see anybody but Ukraine winning this year

Ukraine wants to host the contest if they win

https://eurovisionworld.com/esc/kalush-orchestra-any-victory-in-any-aspect-would-be-very-important-for-ukraine

[Nicky91]

i don't particularly care who wins, there are more important things than winning

Malta's song is my personal winner, also because of Emma fully embracing and enjoying every second of the eurovision experience

and i love how she's a Sam Ryder, Mahmood fangirl + and her becoming friends with Ireland's entry Brooke

[Crimson Dynamo]

i don't particularly care who wins, there are more important things than winning

Malta's song is my personal winner, also because of Emma fully embracing and enjoying every second of the eurovision experience

and i love how she's a Sam Ryder, Mahmood fangirl + and her becoming friends with Ireland's entry Brooke

what is more important than winning in the context of the contest?

:laugh:

[Nicky91]

what is more important than winning in the context of the contest?

:laugh:

having fun, something recent UK flop entries didn't have and what Sam seems to have, enjoying every second of this experience too

at the draw of which half, he channeled bits of Bowie and Elton in his look :cool: now that is what i call truly embracing the spirit of eurovision


only one can win yes, but we need to celebrate all 40 competing entries this upcoming week, quite a lot who have promising careers ahead of them and already some who have good careers

Australia's Sheldon Riley for example, vocal powerhouse

Malta's Emma Muscat, as of today reached milestone of 60 million spotify streams in her young career so far :D which includes songs in english, italian, spanish and she can also sing in maltese

Spain's Chanel, already a film, tv actress superstar, and a huge name in spanish musical theatre world, and now set to make a huge career for herself in music industry

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nicky you may like this

Sounds of the 80s Europop special from Last night

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0016r6b

[Nicky91]

yes here in my country one nostalgic music channel 192tv are doing the same, a top 100 of classic eurovision songs

[Denver]

We’re not winning

No chance, the jury will destroy it

[Liam-]

No chance, the jury will destroy it

Funnily enough, I think the jury will probably rate it decently well, we just won’t get the televotes to even get anywhere near winning

[Denver]

Funnily enough, I think the jury will probably rate it decently well, we just won’t get the televotes to even get anywhere near winning

The televote is our sticky point but I do think Sam has enough to win the jury vote.

But Ukraine has a very weak song and their rehearsals have not been great and I just don't think the juries will go with the pity vote

[Crimson Dynamo]

I getting to the stage where i dont want to watch it if its going to be a Ukraine sobfest

its a song contest keep politics and war out

[Nicky91]

I getting to the stage where i dont want to watch it if its going to be a Ukraine sobfest

its a song contest keep politics and war out

i'm conflicted regarding their song, i really like the singing parts, but i dislike the rapping

the singing parts are really gorgeous, very anthemic


it's a fun song overall but it really should not win, rather want UK or Sweden to take it then, or even Greece, France have a good song as well, in Breton instead of french for a change, so this year no songs in french

[Babayaro.]

personally I find our entry kinda average? he has a great voice and all, but the song’s just a bit ****

[Babayaro.]

And I doubt we’ll perform that well. Better than more recent years perhaps, but nowhere near the top end

[Denver]

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A winners performance in his rehearsal, that guitar solo he added in is a show stealer

[Kate!]

Uks entry is crap. Doesn't deserve to win.

[Cherie]

I fully expect Ukraine to win and UK to come second just based on current politics

[arista]

I fully expect Ukraine to win and UK to come second just based on current politics


It is Wrong in a way
as it is Political /War


No one else can win.....................

[arista]

Uks entry is crap. Doesn't deserve to win.



It will not win.



Ukraine has Won it.

100%

[Cherie]

It is Wrong in a way
as it is Political /War


No one else can win.....................

of course it is all wrong and its a shame for all the other entries this year, also where will they hold next years event given the country is at war but the Eurovision has always been political

[jet]

It is Wrong in a way
as it is Political /War


No one else can win.....................

In a way, whoever comes second will be the 'real' winner...

[Nicky91]

of course it is all wrong and its a shame for all the other entries this year, also where will they hold next years event given the country is at war but the Eurovision has always been political

at a country of Ukraine's choice probably

so maybe Sweden considering their good reputation for solid show production quality

or one of big 5 like Germany maybe, that one is also australia's choice of host country should they win at some point

[user104658]

of course it is all wrong and its a shame for all the other entries this year, also where will they hold next years event given the country is at war but the Eurovision has always been political


I imagine they’d pick a host country like they do in some other situations… it sadly obviously won’t be held in Ukraine.

[user104658]

I personally don’t see the UK coming 2nd although I think they’ll be on the “first half” of the board, and even that would be an achievement given the scores in recent years. The UK has taken the brunt of the anti-Europe rhetoric coming from Russia and that won’t have gone unnoticed. Scandinavian countries will probably do well too because of their proximity to the war and the threats made against them.

[Vanessa]

I want Ukraine to win. Will be voting for them on Saturday
My country has already won it. Let another country win this time .

[Vanessa]

I'm loving Norway as well. The kind of upbeat song that I ljke

[Nicky91]

depends on tonight who i might vote for

if Malta somehow with a miracle make the final, my votes go to her on saturday


but otherwise maybe some votes to one of Czech Republic (yes feel more confident about their qualifying chances tonight) or maybe France (my 3rd favourite)

[Crimson Dynamo]

.....i will have a dry May that is a good idea....:smug:


Euro cup semi win

Euro cup final

Scottish cup final

Eurovision song contest



:fist: Plan ahead LT, Plan ahead :facepalm:

[Denver]

Jury final was tonight Sam gave a phenomenal perfom and alot of the press their are oreddictin the UK has won the Jury Vote

[Nicky91]

can we have Bill Bailey next year pls?


with a bit of a heavy metal bop novelty act :dance: