Prince Harry thread

[arista]

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[arista]

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10603857/Prince-Harry-pulls-Prince-Philips-memorial-service.html

[jet]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10603857/Prince-Harry-pulls-Prince-Philips-memorial-service.html

Prince Harry has been slammed for 'snubbing the Queen' after he announced on Friday that he will not be returning to the UK later this month to attend the high-profile memorial marking the passing of the Duke of Edinburgh - but will reportedly head to The Hague for the Invictus Games in April….

……Royal biographer Angela Levin has slammed the Duke as a 'child stamping his feet' over the decision and said the move was tantamount to 'blackmail', warning the Duke could use dropping out of major events at the last minute as leverage to secure personal protective security in the UK.
Levin warned that although Harry 'has snubbed the Duke of Edinburgh but really he is snubbing the Queen' who is still 'grieving the loss of her husband of 73 years' - and was only given 15 minutes advance notice of Harry's announcement on Friday evening.

'He has got this all wrong. If he comes over for a royal event he gets police protection. What they won't do is, if he goes out with his friends he gets security. He'll probably use this same excuse to try to get out of the Platinum Jubilee celebrations,' she said.
'It's all about "me, me, me" rather than going out of his way for his grandmother and showing her he cares. He's behaving like a child stamping his feet'.
Shunning the memorial later this month, particularly one which will honour his beloved grandfather, is likely to add further tension to his already strained relationship with his family.
……………………..
How come he also attended the Super Bowl and a rodeo in Texas with all those gun toting Texans…he's full of S***.

[jet]

"He hopes to see the Queen soon"?
Won’t he need security in case she takes a swipe at him with her handbag? :hee:

[thesheriff443]

"He hopes to see the Queen soon"?
Won’t he need security in case she takes a swipe at him with her handbag? :hee:

He came back for Prince Philip’s funeral so I guess he will do the same for his grandmother.

[Cherie]

Wonder what security he had at that rodeo he went to recently or the superbowl

If he is attending a memorial wont he benefit from the security around that event..then its straight back to the airport in an uber wearing a cowboy hat ..job done

Isn’t he one of the #bekind brigade ...doesn’t extend to himself obviously...the best thing the press could do is block all stories about him ...starve him of the publicity oxegen he craves

[glib]

Niamh please explain why you have deleted my thread about Kate Middleton visiting the volunteers for Ukraine?

[arista]

Niamh please explain why you have deleted my thread about Kate Middleton visiting the volunteers for Ukraine?


Was it on Chat and Games?

[glib]

Was it on Chat and Games?

Can’t remember why

[arista]

Can’t remember why


Send a PM to her.


I sure staff must have sent you a Legit message

I have had Warnings
I read them
and Follow what they advise

[jet]

Tourre Bakahai (Twitter)
Ukrainians are burying their dead in mass graves. Hospitals and schools are under attack. Millions of refugees are looking for sanctuary in countries including Britain....Haz says he can't honour his war hero grandfather in London because it's too dangerous.
.......
Whoever Tourre is, he's spot on.

[Toy Soldier]

Tourre Bakahai (Twitter)

Ukrainians are burying their dead in mass graves. Hospitals and schools are under attack. Millions of refugees are looking for sanctuary in countries including Britain....Haz says he can't honour his war hero grandfather in London because it's too dangerous.

.......

Whoever Tourre is, he's spot on.He has young children and is under no obligation to do anything other than what's best for them. That's just how it is for the first 10 years or so of having kids, for everyone, surely.

[glib]

Send a PM to her.


I sure staff must have sent you a Legit message

I have had Warnings
I read them
and Follow what they advise

I did a while ago and never got a response

She deletes things and never tells me why, no drama was on that thread, so I don’t know why it was deleted

[jet]

He has young children and is under no obligation to do anything other than what's best for them. That's just how it is for the first 10 years or so of having kids, for everyone, surely.

That doesn't add up.
He can go to the Superbowl and a rodeo in Texas in the gun toting USA with his 'not good enough' security, but can't attend a memorial service for his grandfather with the top notch security that will be covering all the Royals?

[arista]

I did a while ago and never got a response

She deletes things and never tells me why, no drama was on that thread, so I don’t know why it was deleted



But you should get a response today.

You must have had a Staff PM
warning

[jet]

I did a while ago and never got a response

She deletes things and never tells me why, no drama was on that thread, so I don’t know why it was deleted

It might not have been Niamh.
It happens all the time with H&M and royal threads. They disappear for little reason when members have put their time and effort into posting. Other threads can be full of personal insults and they don’t get zapped.
It gives the impression to many, rightly or wrongly, that the mod/mods responsible are big H&M supporters and anti - monarchist. :shrug:

[Toy Soldier]

That doesn't add up.

He can go to the Superbowl and a rodeo in Texas in the gun toting USA with his 'not good enough' security, but can't attend a memorial service for his grandfather with the top notch security that will be covering all the Royals?Harry is at more risk in the UK than he is in the US. I think surely you do know that. The chances of anyone at the Superbowl seeing Harry and saying anythibg more than "Hey... Hey y'all! Ain't that that British Prince guy?? Henry? Barry?"

[glib]

But you should get a response today.

You must have had a Staff PM
warning

No, cos there was nothing trollish or wrong with my Kate Middleton thread

[glib]

It might not have been Niamh.
It happens all the time with H&M and royal threads. They disappear for little reason when members have put their time and effort into posting. Other threads can be full of personal insults and they don’t get zapped.
It gives the impression to many, rightly or wrongly, that the mod/mods responsible are big H&M supporters and anti - monarchist. :shrug:

Exactly sometimes feel a bit censorshipy :worry:

[glib]

Harry is at more risk in the UK than he is in the US. I think surely you do know that. The chances of anyone at the Superbowl seeing Harry and saying anythibg more than "Hey... Hey y'all! Ain't that that British Prince guy?? Henry? Barry?"

Why’s he at risk in the U.K.?

[AnnieK]

Why’s he at risk in the U.K.?

He's at risk in the UK the same way any member of the Royals are, which is why they are heavily protected. He is the Future Kings son and has upset a large number of Royalists so that opens up another level of danger to him and his family:shrug:

[glib]

He's at risk in the UK the same way any member of the Royals are, which is why they are heavily protected. He is the Future Kings son and has upset a large number of Royalists so that opens up another level of danger to him and his family:shrug:

So has Prince Andrew but he was still driving around on public roads, snapped by the paps

What’s someone going to do him, throw a coronation chicken at him?

[AnnieK]

I don't think we needed a big announcement though of his non attendance. That's just poking the bear at this point and will get his detractors more riled up. He could have just informed the family of his decision.

[jet]

Harry is at more risk in the UK than he is in the US. I think surely you do know that. The chances of anyone at the Superbowl (and Texan rodeo) seeing Harry and saying anythibg more than "Hey... Hey y'all! Ain't that that British Prince guy?? Henry? Barry?"

I was forgetting that there wasn't any terrorists or crazy gun toters in the US. Why the Royals get even higher security when they go there is just ridiculous. :rolleyes:

[rusticgal]

Its a load of bollocks....its a feeble excuse to get out of visiting. Meghan simply does not want to come...and Harry finds himself in that awkward position of having to find an 'excuse' everytime they get an invite for one thing or another...
He has finally found one he can use time and time again....he is in more vulnerable where he lives now...its a joke.

[AnnieK]

So has Prince Andrew but he was still driving around on public roads, snapped by the paps

What’s someone going to do him, throw a coronation chicken at him?

Prince Andrew isn't the future Kings son and brother though and has never really been liked by the public in the way Harry was. Nutters would have a lot more to gain by targeting Harry.

[Toy Soldier]

Why’s he at risk in the U.K.?I didn't say he's at huge risk in the UK (any high profile figure is always at some risk) - I said he's at MORE risk in the UK than he is in the US, because in the UK the Royals would be the ultimate target, whereas in the US he's not even on par with a big current Hollywood A-lister, and there will be plenty of those at the Superbowl. They'd be more excited if they saw Chris Hemsworth and Chris Evans sat together than they would to see "That British Prince".

[jet]

Exactly sometimes feel a bit censorshipy :worry:

A 'bit' is an understatement. :worry:

[jet]

Its a load of bollocks....its a feeble excuse to get out of visiting. Meghan simply does not want to come...and Harry finds himself in that awkward position of having to find an 'excuse' everytime they get an invite for one thing or another...
He has finally found one he can use time and time again....he is in more vulnerable where he lives now...its a joke.

Nail on the head Rusti.

[Toy Soldier]

A 'bit' is an understatement. :worry:It isn't actually though is it. I mean, this stuff is not even vaguely important.

[AnnieK]

I was forgetting that there wasn't any terrorists or crazy gun toters in the US. Why the Royals get even higher security when they go there is just ridiculous. :rolleyes:

A Royal on a State visit is far more of a target than a celebrity who lives in California. Many gun toting americans will walk past Harry on the street and not take any notice but the pomp and circumstance around a Royal visit will bring out the radicals. When Harry goes to the superbowl now its no more of a big deal to them as any two bit celeb

[Cherie]

If he goes to the memorial he will be protected by the mere fact he is there with the Queen, Charles and Will :shrug:

[bots]

The majority of royals have no security protection at all. I don't think its unreasonable to provide security for high profile royals, and harry and family clearly fit into this category.

What people are not understanding is that Harry and family are no longer resident in the uk and there is much more involved in royal protection than having them accompanied by a couple of armed bruisers. The vast majority of protection now involves constant monitoring of intelligence etc. That is where the work is. So, it's just not feasible to provide that protection for a family that doesn't even live in the country. They are just not in the royal orbit now, and to be quite blunt, that was their express choice

[jet]

I didn't say he's at huge risk in the UK (any high profile figure is always at some risk) - I said he's at MORE risk in the UK than he is in the US, because in the UK the Royals would be the ultimate target, whereas in the US he's not even on par with a big current Hollywood A-lister, and there will be plenty of those at the Superbowl. They'd be more excited if they saw Chris Hemsworth and Chris Evans sat together than they would to see "That British Prince".

A gun toting nutter would get himself far more attention by shooting the future King of the UK's son than he would Chris Evans, don't you think?
Every day in the USA, on average 316 people are shot every day. How many in the UK? How many with high royal protection, which he would have at a Royal event? NONE. EVER.

[Jordan.]

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Thank god! It was just too much risk with all the royalist crazies out there.

[rusticgal]

If he goes to the memorial he will be protected by the mere fact he is there with the Queen, Charles and Will :shrug:


Exactly...just like when he came here for Diana's memorial. From what I can gather his car was chased by media which has prompted him to demand higher security.

[rusticgal]

A Royal on a State visit is far more of a target than a celebrity who lives in California. Many gun toting americans will walk past Harry on the street and not take any notice but the pomp and circumstance around a Royal visit will bring out the radicals. When Harry goes to the superbowl now its no more of a big deal to them as any two bit celeb


His visit to the Superbowl was no different from him going to Wembley to watch the Rugby. He would have had security guards with him at both. Harry could walk through the streets anywhere and people would walk past him and not bat an eyelid....he is at more risk of assassination in America simply because more people carry guns. There are many Royalists in America that will not like what he and his wife have done and its a far bigger country....
At the end of the day it is a convenient excuse for his beloved Meghan...

[jet]

Exactly...just like when he came here for Diana's memorial. From what I can gather his car was chased by media which has prompted him to demand higher security.

There are doubts about that. It has been reported that nobody has seen any footage or photos of his car being chased at all, or even of him leaving the venue or getting into the car, which is odd if there were media around. :shrug:

[Kizzy]

I see it as him not wanting the media circus focused on him and his wife.

[jet]

I see it as him not wanting the media circus focused on him and his wife.

:joker: Sorry for laughing, but that is exactly what they DO want to stay visible and relevant. They are either instructing their PR to release info on their latest useless pontificating at least twice a week or suing someone or complaining about something or other to get press attention.
I don't think even their biggest supporters still believe they yearn for the privacy that they pretended they escaped the UK to have.

[glib]

:joker: Sorry for laughing, but that is exactly what they DO want to stay visible and relevant. They are either instructing their PR to release info on their latest useless pontificating at least twice a week or suing someone or complaining about something or other to get press attention.
I don't think even their biggest supporters still believe they yearn for the privacy that they pretended they escaped the UK to have.

:clap1:

[Beso]

Thank god! It was just too much risk with all the royalist crazies out there.

Last time I saw bunting in the street was Harry's wedding.

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker: Sorry for laughing, but that is exactly what they DO want to stay visible and relevant. They are either instructing their PR to release info on their latest useless pontificating at least twice a week or suing someone or complaining about something or other to get press attention.
I don't think even their biggest supporters still believe they yearn for the privacy that they pretended they escaped the UK to have.

yep, spot-on as ever Jet

[Jordan.]

:joker: Sorry for laughing, but that is exactly what they DO want to stay visible and relevant. They are either instructing their PR to release info on their latest useless pontificating at least twice a week or suing someone or complaining about something or other to get press attention.
I don't think even their biggest supporters still believe they yearn for the privacy that they pretended they escaped the UK to have.

I'd say their biggest supporters were smart enough to grasp what they meant by seeking privacy was getting away from the invasive British press not about going to live a reclusive life never to be heard from again.

[jet]

I'd say their biggest supporters were smart enough to grasp what they meant by seeking privacy was getting away from the invasive British press not about going to live a reclusive life never to be heard from again.

Who here has ever said them wanting privacy meant they wanted to live a reclusive life never to be heard of again? Nobody. That is a silly, totally unrealistic invention.
There is a huge difference between wanting normal privacy and desperate attention seeking antics which ensures the repeated coverage they crave in that invasive British press....:hee:

[Jordan.]

Who here has ever said them wanting privacy meant they wanted to live a reclusive life never to be heard of again? Nobody. That is a silly, totally unrealistic invention.
There is a huge difference between wanting normal privacy and desperate attention seeking antics which ensures the repeated coverage they crave in that invasive British press....:hee:

They have normal privacy. What do you know about their personal lives? nothing because now they are in control of what they put out to the press, which was the whole point.

[Kizzy]

:joker: Sorry for laughing, but that is exactly what they DO want to stay visible and relevant. They are either instructing their PR to release info on their latest useless pontificating at least twice a week or suing someone or complaining about something or other to get press attention.
I don't think even their biggest supporters still believe they yearn for the privacy that they pretended they escaped the UK to have.

Well once again it's a case of damned if you do damned if you don't. If he had gone it would be seen as him attention grabbing , so whatever :/ .

[jet]

They have normal privacy. What do you know about their personal lives?

Too much, cos they tell us, don't they? We know they like to wash their dirty linen in public, which isn’t PRIVATE, is it? We know they are estranged from their respective families. Who they are currently suing.
We know that if there is a bandwagon to jump on they’ll be there to appease their craving to be noticed.
We know they are whiners because we’ve heard them, loud and clear.
Their neighbours say they rarely see them; occasionally Harry will be seen out on his electric bike. They aren’t seen out together. Harry goes to some stuff on his own. They don’t have visitors.
When this was reported recently in the press, hey presto, a few days later Harry and Meghan were photographed out at a restaurant with Eugenie, by a news agency, sitting right there in full view at the window. Meghan’s face was nearly cracking with all the false hilarity she was putting on and Harry looked tense and glum, apparently.
So there you go. :laugh:

[Jordan.]

Too much, cos they tell us, don't they? We know they like to wash their dirty linen in public, which isn’t PRIVATE, is it? We know they are estranged from their respective families. Who they are currently suing.
We know that if there is a bandwagon to jump on they’ll be there to appease their craving to be noticed.
We know they are whiners because we’ve heard them, loud and clear.
Their neighbours say they rarely see them; occasionally Harry will be seen out on his electric bike. They aren’t seen out together. Harry goes to some stuff on his own. They don’t have visitors.
When this was reported recently in the press, hey presto, a few days later Harry and Meghan were photographed out at a restaurant with Eugenie, by a news agency, sitting right there in full view at the window. Meghan’s face was nearly cracking with all the false hilarity she was putting on and Harry looked tense and glum, apparently.
So there you go. :laugh:

Sounds quite elusive to me almost... private.

[jet]

Well once again it's a case of damned if you do damned if you don't. If he had gone it would be seen as him attention grabbing , so whatever :/ .

If he had gone where? :conf: Are you referring to Prince Philips memorial service which hasn't been held yet?
If so, then it absolutely would not be seen as attention grabbing, it would be seen as the right thing to do. Nobody said he was attention grabbing when he attended his grandfathers funeral, or the unveiling of Diana's statue.
Letting down his grandmother by refusing to attend because of security issues when he knows darn well he will have the security the rest of them will have, just like he did on his previous 2 visits is disgusting. How low can he go?

[Oliver_W]

A singer or actor may want to be a "celebrity", because fame is a natural consequence from being successful in a performance job. A footballer or diver may want to be a "celebrity", because a higher profile means more sponsorahips. A reality tv personality is all about "fame" ... but all of these people can expect their personal lives to be kept private.

[jet]

Sounds quite elusive to me almost... private.

I was pointing out the disparity between being anything but private and craving attention on the one hand and living a reclusive, rather sad existence on the other hand. Perhaps the latter may be one of the reasons for the former.

[Beso]

Oh I want privacy....


Hi world...my dads a ****, and my family has a racist in it.

[AnnieK]

Let's not pretend that most pro royalists took Harry and Meghan's stance of wanting to.distance themselves from the media circus of the Royal family to mean they wanted total privacy. The threads on here alone proved it... All they have ever wanted was to control their own narrative, if you don't like it, don't listen. They aren't working Royals, their views on the world have no more impact on anyone's lives any more than any other celeb. I really don't get the interest.

William and Kate's thread is almost empty.....if you are interested in Royal life that is where the news is. Not re-hashing the same gripes about.non Royal s

[GoldHeart]

Let's not pretend that most pro royalists took Harry and Meghan's stance of wanting to.distance themselves from the media circus of the Royal family to mean they wanted total privacy. The threads on here alone proved it... All they have ever wanted was to control their own narrative, if you don't like it, don't listen. They aren't working Royals, their views on the world have no more impact on anyone's lives any more than any other celeb. I really don't get the interest.

William and Kate's thread is almost empty.....if you are interested in Royal life that is where the news is. Not re-hashing the same gripes about.non Royal s

Yeah i always thought Kate & William were popular, puzzling really .

[jet]

Let's not pretend that most pro royalists took Harry and Meghan's stance of wanting to.distance themselves from the media circus of the Royal family to mean they wanted total privacy. The threads on here alone proved it... All they have ever wanted was to control their own narrative, if you don't like it, don't listen. They aren't working Royals, their views on the world have no more impact on anyone's lives any more than any other celeb. I really don't get the interest.

William and Kate's thread is almost empty.....if you are interested in Royal life that is where the news is. Not re-hashing the same gripes about.non Royal s

If William and Kate started airing their dirty linen, fell out with their respective families, whined and moaned, sued all round them, kept inserting themselves into the news in controversial ways, then there would be plenty to say on their thread, don’t you think? It would be hiving....:hee:
As they don’t, and just get on with their responsibilities and duties with dignity and class, then the thread is simply to see what they are currently doing, nothing more. It's just 'news'.

And with all due respect Annie, it’s nothing to do with you what others listen to or are interested in.

[Kizzy]

If William and Kate started airing their dirty linen, fell out with their respective families, whined and moaned, sued all round them, kept inserting themselves into the news in controversial ways, then there would be plenty to say on their thread, don’t you think? It would be hiving....:hee:
As they don’t, and just get on with their responsibilities and duties with dignity and class, then the thread is simply to see what they are currently doing, nothing more. It's just 'news'.

And with all due respect Annie, it’s nothing to do with you what others listen to or are interested in.

They don't want responsibilities or duties anymore, that's the point. As Annie put it they want to control their own narrative. And they have every right to do that.
They are no longer public property, they can go, work, Sue wherever and whoever they like.

It would make sense too to not pay any mind to them if they upset you that much.. it seems odd that if you don't like someone that much you would even give anything they did any attention.
For example, I don't like the kardashians... so guess what? I don't read about their lives or watch their shows.

I don't go on threads about them listing reasons why I dislike them.

[AnnieK]

If William and Kate started airing their dirty linen, fell out with their respective families, whined and moaned, sued all round them, kept inserting themselves into the news in controversial ways, then there would be plenty to say on their thread, don’t you think? It would be hiving....:hee:
As they don’t, and just get on with their responsibilities and duties with dignity and class, then the thread is simply to see what they are currently doing, nothing more. It's just 'news'.

And with all due respect Annie, it’s nothing to do with you what others listen to or are interested in.

You are quite right....but with all due respect I am still able to voice my opinion on the subject am I not :shrug: This is a debate forum after all and there is no debate to be had if everyone thought the same.

[thesheriff443]

This part of the thread was about Harry not going to is grandads memorial due to security risks.

Il give an example of how pathetic that is,

Ex pm Mrs may, has a 24 hour armed police man at her house but she and her husband still walk around Waitrose on their own doing their shopping.

[Cherie]

I think many people have forgotten they didn’t want to step down completely from Royal duties but wanted to be part timers which Liz would not countenance, reportedly Harry has been in Charles ear about relaxing the stance Liz took when she has passed on

[bots]

they wanted to keep the cash and the perks. It would be the end of the royal family if charles relaxed that stance

[James]

I did a while ago and never got a response

She deletes things and never tells me why, no drama was on that thread, so I don’t know why it was deleted

It might not have been Niamh.
It happens all the time with H&M and royal threads. They disappear for little reason when members have put their time and effort into posting. Other threads can be full of personal insults and they don’t get zapped.
It gives the impression to many, rightly or wrongly, that the mod/mods responsible are big H&M supporters and anti - monarchist. :shrug:

Meghan and Harry threads are being deleted because they are all going round in circles with arguments, sometimes they are being posted just to get a reaction, and also people are entering the threads to insult people. It's repetitive.