Hunter Biden's laptop

[Alf]

Used to be known as Russian disinformation now confirmed as real.

People lied

[user104658]

Used to be known as Russian disinformation now confirmed as real.

People lied

:omgno:

[Alf]

Get em'


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[Alf]

:omgno:That's not like you. You usually have a 500 word opinion on a matter.

[Alf]

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[Oliver_W]

No-one's going to care because Biden is NotTrump(TM) and any criticism of Biden is automatically praise for Trump.

[user104658]

That's not like you. You usually have a 500 word opinion on a matter.

It's just that sometimes Alf... it seems like you've only just discovered that politics is murky as ****. They all lie, literally all of the time.

[bots]

Rudy is known for his steadfast protection of the truth

Alf, are you familiar with the concept of chain of custody? If you are going to use something as evidence, you have to prove that the item was never in the hands of a third party, something that is pretty basic stuff

[user104658]

No-one's going to care because Biden is NotTrump(TM) and any criticism of Biden is automatically praise for Trump.

There's also the issue that Hunter Biden is not Joe Biden, and Trump supporters have always been quick to point the same out in relation to the Trump brood's activities and blunders.

[Oliver_W]

There's also the issue that Hunter Biden is not Joe Biden, and Trump supporters have always been quick to point the same out in relation to the Trump brood's activities and blunders.

True :joker: but I still genuinely think the media swept a lot of the stuff which could (rightly or wrongly) make Biden look back under the rug, to ensure he'd win the election.

[bots]

True :joker: but I still genuinely think the media swept a lot of the stuff which could (rightly or wrongly) make Biden look back under the rug, to ensure he'd win the election.

well they would wouldnt they, when trump repeated fake news over and over you cant expect them to say ... trump ... yeah lets have another 4 years of him :laugh:

[Alf]

There's also the issue that Hunter Biden is not Joe Biden, and Trump supporters have always been quick to point the same out in relation to the Trump brood's activities and blunders.They've got ties to Ukraine. They're putting us all in danger.

I think it's best to get to the truth before they start WW3 for us.

[Alf]

well they would wouldnt they, when trump repeated fake news over and over you cant expect them to say ... trump ... yeah lets have another 4 years of him :laugh:What are you talking about?

[user104658]

True :joker: but I still genuinely think the media swept a lot of the stuff which could (rightly or wrongly) make Biden look back under the rug, to ensure he'd win the election.

THere's not much to say about that election really ... complete cluster****. Biden was never a good candidate, Trump was running a massive misinformation campaign, none of the media was offering anything resembling unbiased reporting. I think the world prematurely thought that Biden was the answer to Trump but it was clear within a few months that Biden (to just be totally blunt) is elderly. Not just "old", but elderly. He should be retired.

[Oliver_W]

well they would wouldnt they, when trump repeated fake news over and over you cant expect them to say ... trump ... yeah lets have another 4 years of him :laugh:
A politician ... Telling lies?!
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THere's not much to say about that election really ... complete cluster****. Biden was never a good candidate, Trump was running a massive misinformation campaign, none of the media was offering anything resembling unbiased reporting. I think the world prematurely thought that Biden was the answer to Trump but it was clear within a few months that Biden (to just be totally blunt) is elderly. Not just "old", but elderly. He should be retired.
Yups. Say what you want about how they compare as people, but Biden really hasn't been a better President than Trump. No media outlet is or should be obligated to give even or fair coverage, but Shmoe Average really had no chance of getting a clear picture of the election.

[Alf]

It's just that sometimes Alf... it seems like you've only just discovered that politics is murky as ****. They all lie, literally all of the time.The Politicians and their associates aren't the ones I'm expecting to hear the truth from. They're presumed the the criminals here, criminals lie. Now the media on the other hand.

[Alf]

Here's the then President telling us and the media saying he's wrong. Turns out, Trump was right.


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[MTVN]

Twitter and Facebook actually censored reporting this at the time because it was apparently disinformation lol, I do agree with Alf here that it's all very shady and will just fuel a lot of people's distrust of the media and big tech companies

[Alf]

Twitter and Facebook actually censored reporting this at the time because it was apparently disinformation lol, I do agree with Alf here that it's all very shady and will just fuel a lot of people's distrust of the media and big tech companiesThat laptop was found in a shop, someone had put it in there. My guess would be they wanted it to be found. Did Hunter himself put it in there? Did he want it to be found? Did he want out of the corruption? Is he signing like a canary?

[MTVN]

That laptop was found in a shop, someone had put it in there. My guess would be they wanted it to be found. Did Hunter himself put it in there? Did he want it to be found? Did he want out of the corruption? Is he signing like a canary?

Didn't he put it in for repair?

[Alf]

Didn't he put it in for repair?I don't know, but if so, I reckon he wanted the information on it to be found.

I assume if it's his laptop then yes, he probably did put it in there.

[bots]

american politics is a mess, i think we all agree on that. The problem is (like here) there are no good options available anymore. There is no easy answer to it either, in fact i don't think there is one at all

[Oliver_W]

Coverage aside, Trump's handling of the pandemic basically gift-wrapped the election to Biden... Now he seems determined to repay the favour :joker: even if Kommula Harris is the candidate, she's probably (seen as) too pro-cop to skate by on her skin colour. And even then, she's more of the same-old-same-old that Hillary represented. People voted for Trump in 2016 because they believed he'd bring real change. Did he live up to that? Who knows, but Hillary, Biden, and Harris are just boring old swamp monsters, the embodiment of the status quo.

If 2016 had been Bernie versus Trump, god only knows where we'd be now...

[bots]

the dems are going to get battered in the mid terms, they will lose control of both houses and biden will be powerless for 2 years

[The Slim Reaper]

hunter Biden is a top boy. I'm not even sure what the scandal is supposed to be.

Although I think this non-story being rehashed probably has more to do with an ex KGB spy coming out and saying that they groomed trump for 40 years to use as an asset.

[Alf]

hunter Biden is a top boy. I'm not even sure what the scandal is supposed to be.Then look into it with a bit of research and then come back and let us know what you found.

[The Slim Reaper]

Then look into it with a bit of research and then come back and let us know what you found.

Give me a quick overview.

[Alf]

Give me a quick overview.Ukraine. Burisma. Money (lots of). "The Big Guy." Crack cocaine.

[The Slim Reaper]

Ukraine. Burisma. Money (lots of). "The Big Guy." Crack cocaine.

They're just words jumbled together. What is the scandal?

[Alf]

They're just words jumbled together. What is the scandal?I'm just a peasant from the North of England. I don't have your answers.

There's many better placed and more informed people than me. Locate them.

[The Slim Reaper]

I'm just a peasant from the North of England. I don't have your answers.

There's many better placed and more informed people than me. Locate them.

You know there's a scandal based on some words, so just tell me what it is. I don't expect you to know it in Ukrainian or anything.

[Beso]

You know there's a scandal based on some words, so just tell me what it is. I don't expect you to know it in Ukrainian or anything.

It involves minors.

[The Slim Reaper]

It involves minors.

The world needs coal. Gotta keep the planet burning. So what's the scandal?

[Alf]

The world needs coal. Gotta keep the planet burning. So what's the scandal?The scandal is the evidence of corruption found on his laptop. That's the scandal here. What that evidence is we don't know exactly what it is yet because the media has buried it and claimed it was Russian disinformation.

[user104658]

The scandal is the evidence of corruption found on his laptop. That's the scandal here. What that evidence is we don't know yet because the media has buried it and claimed it was Russian disinformation.

What sort of corruption. "The scandal is that there was corruption" is a bit circular, it's like saying "The scandal is that there was a scandal".

[The Slim Reaper]

The scandal is the evidence of corruption found on his laptop. That's the scandal here. What that evidence is we don't know yet because the media has buried it and claimed it was Russian disinformation.

In your own words "...evidence of corruption found on his laptop." If it's been found, then it should be really easy to just share what it is.

[Alf]

What sort of corruption. "The scandal is that there was corruption" is a bit circular, it's like saying "The scandal is that there was a scandal".People including Rudi Gulianni claim they have all the information and have offered to hand it over to the FBI and the media but neither wanted to touch it.

[The Slim Reaper]

People including Rudi Gulianni claim they have all the information and have offered to hand it over to the FBI and the media but neither wanted to touch it.

I can claim to be as hard as sheriff, but unless I can prove it, then it's obviously just a fantasy.

If there is a genuine scandal, everyone would already know what it is because it would be all over fox and OANN, rather than a combination of scary sounding words.

[Alf]

My guess would be information of dodgy deals, money laundering and maybe selling out The United States of America. Would be what they have evidence of.

American oligarchs

[bots]

In your own words "...evidence of corruption found on his laptop." If it's been found, then it should be really easy to just share what it is.

i mentioned chain of custody, because it is extremely important in this case. The laptop was obtained in a repair shop, and then passed around numerous other parties. People could have messed with the laptops content at any time. Without a proper chain of custody directly between the laptop being in hunters possession and the investigating authorities, it's all complete bollocks

[The Slim Reaper]

My guess would be information of dodgy deals, money laundering and maybe selling out The United States of America. Would be what they have evidence of.

American oligarchs

So why isn't the evidence in the public domain? Scandals often start through news reporting before turning into investigations - see Boris being ambushed by a cake as an example.

It's interesting you believe something like this (which may or may not be true) without evidence, and yet we know the trump kids were signing deal after deal based on their old mans presidency, all the information for which, is already in the public domain.

[Oliver_W]

While there may have been something, it's not solid enough to make any real claims. Don't get me wrong, I still think it was deliberately buried, just some "Russian bots" trolling up support for Trump was inflated ... and just as other sectors are inflating the laptop's importance for their ends.

[The Slim Reaper]

i mentioned chain of custody, because it is extremely important in this case. The laptop was obtained in a repair shop, and then passed around numerous other parties. People could have messed with the laptops content at any time. Without a proper chain of custody directly between the laptop being in hunters possession and the investigating authorities, it's all complete bollocks

Pretty much exactly, but even with this in mind, no one seems able or willing to simply say "on the laptop, Hunter is MSN'ing with Putin and talking about how great it would be to kill America"

It's all innuendo and whispers.

[The Slim Reaper]

While there may have been something, it's not solid enough to make any real claims. Don't get me wrong, I still think it was deliberately buried, just some "Russian bots" trolling up support for Trump was inflated ... and just as other sectors are inflating the laptop's importance for their ends.

THE FBI investigated. It's the opposite of a burial.

[Alf]

OK, I will do some digging for you. You sit back, relax and wait for it to be brought to you.

I'll try and find some tweets from people with a bit more of an understanding of what it's all about.

[The Slim Reaper]

OK, I will do some digging for you. You sit back, relax and wait for it to be brought to you.

I'll try and find some tweets from people with a bit more of an understanding of what it's all about.

A bit of evidence would be good in those tweets.

[user104658]

I can claim to be as hard as sheriff

https://media.tenor.com/images/1a9b0d6319f8acb96eadc6b455c33778/tenor.gif

[Alf]

This lady claims she's seen it


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[arista]

Used to be known as Russian disinformation now confirmed as real.

People lied



Yes, so long as the FBI are aware
all is good.

[arista]

This lady claims she's seen it


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If she is underage
Arrest him.

[Alf]

A bit of evidence would be good in those tweets.Rudi Gulianni claims he has all the evidence on hard drive. Every single media channel in the World should be asking him to prove it. But they don't. Let's get Gulianni in a court of law under oath and tell him to produce the evidence.

[Alf]

If she is underage
Arrest him.Yes, that's what you'd expect to happen. But we're dealing with people who don't believe the rules and laws count for them. And we've put them people in positions of power where they can make that a reality. And we'll continue to put them there because we allow them to get away with it.

Hopefully there's some good people out there that are trying to put a stop to it. That's all we can hope for.

[The Slim Reaper]

This lady claims she's seen it


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I watched the vid up until the 3 minute mark, so if I've missed anything explosive, then let me know.

A couple of things that stood out. Firstly she said they asked the police if anything had been reported, but American law is a lot stricter, so if these images were really as the innuendo is saying, then not actually reporting it once you've seen them, has a pretty strong chance of making you an accessory after the fact. See the way she curbed her language? Instead of making any accusations she plays in the grey area of just asking questions?

He dated his dead brothers wife, so I completely understand why a psychologist may have suggested him being in his nieces life through a relationship with her ma, at the time she was dealing with her own grief, may not be a healthy situation for a young teenage girl to be experiencing. Although I'm neither a professional or in possession of all the facts.

Again, she's seen the laptop and doesn't have one genuine accusation to make. If she says something explosive after 3 minutes in let me know and I'll have a further watch.

[arista]

"anything explosive,"


Under the legal age

[Alf]

I watched the vid up until the 3 minute mark, so if I've missed anything explosive, then let me know.

A couple of things that stood out. Firstly she said they asked the police if anything had been reported, but American law is a lot stricter, so if these images were really as the innuendo is saying, then not actually reporting it once you've seen them, has a pretty strong chance of making you an accessory after the fact. See the way she curbed her language? Instead of making any accusations she plays in the grey area of just asking questions?

He dated his dead brothers wife, so I completely understand why a psychologist may have suggested him being in his nieces life through a relationship with her ma, at the time she was dealing with her own grief, may not be a healthy situation for a young teenage girl to be experiencing. Although I'm neither a professional or in possession of all the facts.

Again, she's seen the laptop and doesn't have one genuine accusation to make. If she says something explosive after 3 minutes in let me know and I'll have a further watch.She goes on to mention Human Trafficking.

[The Slim Reaper]

"anything explosive,"


Under the legal age

Having a picture taken with an underage family member, doesn't automatically mean you are a predator. I daresay there are prob some pics of me lying down with an even younger family member.

She's seen all the pics and never says he's touching her, she's naked, he's got her posing in a suggestive manner - just that she's horizontal.

[The Slim Reaper]

She goes on to mention Human Trafficking.

In what context? You've just mentioned human trafficking, but I don't automatically think you have 37 eastern Europeans in a warehouse in Hull.

[Alf]

In what context? You've just mentioned human trafficking, but I don't automatically think you have 37 eastern Europeans in a warehouse in Hull.I didn't mention Human trafficking. I said that the lady in the video who claims to have seen the contents of the laptop mentioned it.

I've told you, I don't have your answers, I'm just sharing with you what's out there in the public square.

[The Slim Reaper]

I didn't mention Human trafficking. I said that the lady in the video who claims to have seen the contents of the laptop mentioned it.

I've told you, I don't have your answers, I'm just sharing with you what's out there in the public square.

Appreciate your efforts, Alf. Do you even see where I'm coming from about the innuendos and whispers versus actual facts or accusations?

It may turn out that there is a scandal here (who knows?), but it won't be based on any information in this thread or that Giuliani is peddling.

[Alf]

Having a picture taken with an underage family member, doesn't automatically mean you are a predator. I daresay there are prob some pics of me lying down with an even younger family member.

She's seen all the pics and never says he's touching her, she's naked, he's got her posing in a suggestive manner - just that she's horizontal.You're absolutely right in your first point, I don't think anyone disagree's with that. You're basically stating the obvious. Suspicion isn't a crime.

But there's a strong sense that there is more to this that what we're being led to believe.

So who is investigating these suspicions? What are they saying? What evidence do they have? Let's see and hear it. That sounds a sensible thing to do.

[The Slim Reaper]

You're absolutely right in your first point, I don't think anyone disagree's with that. You're basically stating the obvious. Suspicion isn't a crime.

But there's a strong sense that there is more to this that what we're being led to believe.

So who is investigating these suspicions? What are they saying? What evidence do they have? Let's see and hear it. That sounds a sensible thing to do.

Do you see any contradiction in the bits I've just bolded?

[Alf]

Do you see any contradiction in the bits I've just bolded?No.

Suspicion isn't a crime. That's a fact. However being suspicious of something isn't a crime either and you are perfectly entitled to investigate those suspicions.

[The Slim Reaper]

No.

Suspicion isn't a crime. That's a fact. However being suspicious of something isn't a crime either and you are perfectly entitled to investigate those suspicions.

As BOTS pointed out, there are huge issues with the access that anyone could have had to this laptop making it almost impossible. The FBI have investigated already.

A co-ordinated attempt to make something appear suspicious, doesn't necessarily take it to the stage where it should be investigated again.

[Alf]

The Don

He told you everything


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[Alf]

Here's Biden saying the laptop is Russian disinformation. Now that we know the laptop exists then what else has he excused on being Russian disinformation? Do you trust him with your safety?

The scary question is. Does Putin have the information of what is on the laptop? If so, how could he use it to his strength?


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[Alf]

As BOTS pointed out, there are huge issues with the access that anyone could have had to this laptop making it almost impossible. The FBI have investigated already.

A co-ordinated attempt to make something appear suspicious, doesn't necessarily take it to the stage where it should be investigated again.Eventually. Slowly but surely



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[The Slim Reaper]

You should rename the thread to "Alfs top 20 biden tweets that don't offer a genuine accusation or a shred of evidence countdown"

It's all theatre so when they take back congress later this year, they can spam the false investigations. Same playbook they used on Hilary.

[Alf]

You should rename the thread to "Alfs top 20 biden tweets that don't offer a genuine accusation or a shred of evidence countdown"

It's all theatre so when they take back congress later this year, they can spam the false investigations. Same playbook they used on Hilary.And you should comment in Alf's Top 50 1980s film countdown and let me know where I've made mistakes.

[bots]

it's funny when Alf disappears down his own conspiracy rabbit hole. In one thread he will be saying ... don't believe that, not enough evidence ... and then you get this :laugh:

[Alf]

it's funny when Alf disappears down his own conspiracy rabbit hole. In one thread he will be saying ... don't believe that, not enough evidence ... and then you get this :laugh:It's not that funny.

[Alf]

This lady has written a book on Hunter Biden's laptop, so I assume she's seen the contents. Here are her opinions on the latest events and what needs to happen now. On the Tucker Carlson show last night.


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[The Slim Reaper]

Another person, who even after writing a book about the scandal, refusing to say what the scandal actually is.

[Alf]

Another person, who even after writing a book about the scandal, refusing to say what the scandal actually is.Correct. Well observed.

Is there a point with that observation?

[The Slim Reaper]

Correct. Well observed.

Is there a point with that observation?

I believe I've made my point already. All of these experts. including people who've seen the actual contents of the laptop, can't/won't even point to one crime that should be investigated. That fact should make folks think they've been had, but unfortunately within conspiracy circles, it is actually more likely to convince them that they are privy to something the rest of us aren't.

[Alf]

I believe I've made my point already. All of these experts. including people who've seen the actual contents of the laptop, can't/won't even point to one crime that should be investigated. That fact should make folks think they've been had, but unfortunately within conspiracy circles, it is actually more likely to convince them that they are privy to something the rest of us aren't.Nah, do you know what makes people suspicious about all this? it's the lying about it saying it doesn't exist and is just Russian disinformation and the failure to report on it when for 3 years solid, day and night they bombarded the news cycle with a fake Russia hoax against Trump.

2 + 2 isn't making 4 right now.

[Alf]

These are the ones who performed for you a 3 year fake Russian hoax against Trump everyday.

I know Arista doesn't like these spliced together types of videos, so a bit of why I'm posting it is to annoy him. I like these kind of videos, I find them quite telling, it makes them look like they're all reading from a script.


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[Oliver_W]

Nah, do you know what makes people suspicious about all this? it's the lying about it saying it doesn't exist and is just Russian disinformation and the failure to report on it when for 3 years solid, day and night they bombarded the news cycle with a fake Russia hoax against Trump.

2 + 2 isn't making 4 right now.

The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - there's some vaguely incriminating stuff on there, but it doesn't really Joe Biden. But by dancing around and talking about it in general terms, it becomes (and remains) something they can use against him.

[Alf]

the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle - there's some vaguely incriminating stuff on there, but it doesn't really joe biden. But by dancing around and talking about it in general terms, it becomes (and remains) something they can use against him.1504535971383156737

[Alf]

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[Alf]

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[arista]

Yes Alf

Jack
A Navy Intel Expert.

He has the Facts right.
But the Election is Over, Biden won more than Trump did.


He needs to go on CNN HD
they have new management, now.

[arista]

These are the ones who performed for you a 3 year fake Russian hoax against Trump everyday.

I know Arista doesn't like these spliced together types of videos, so a bit of why I'm posting it is to annoy him. I like these kind of videos, I find them quite telling, it makes them look like they're all reading from a script.


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No
Not at all

It is too short.

[arista]

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Alf you Keep Posting this

[Alf]

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[Alf]

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[Alf]

Wow! Even CNN are reporting on it now. From being Russian disinformation to CNN now reporting on it.

What's the difference between a conspiracy theory and the facts? In this case about 14-15 months.

This thread will age well.




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[Beso]

Disnt he call a Chinese bloke ho ping, the ****ing Chinese spy....after receiving a moon dollars in cash from him.

[Alf]

I don't think Joe Biden has long left as President. The mainstream media and Democrats are turning on him now. I think they want him gone. They know what's coming with this laptop.

It's gonna be a woman who replaces him. Kamala Harris, Nancy Pelosi, Hilary Clinton or a wild card in Michelle Obama. I'm leaning towards the latter two.

[user104658]

TBH never mind all this stuff, he needs to be replaced because he's genuinely too elderly to safely do the job. It's more or less that simple. No matter what else is going on. Get someone under 65 back in that office FFS.

[Alf]

TBH never mind all this stuff, he needs to be replaced because he's genuinely too elderly to safely do the job. It's more or less that simple. No matter what else is going on. Get someone under 65 back in that office FFS.I do think that is also a reason they want him gone along with what's coming with the laptop.

[Alf]

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[Alf]

We can't call you a conspiracy theorist about this anymore Alf so for that reason we're not interested in this story.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FPmwbK6VsAYKk75?format=png&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

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left wing social media companies more like

the real worry

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/04/26/16/57075073-0-image-m-20_1650988439443.jpg


[EXCLUSIVE: Joe's missing millions!
Financial records reveal Biden had $5.2million
in unexplained income - as emails show he
paid Hunter's legal bills for one megabucks
Chinese deal and was tapped as 'big guy'
to get a 10% cut in another

Emails from Hunter's laptop reveal Joe Biden
agreed to pay his son's legal fees
for his deal with a Chinese
government-controlled company
Joe was able to pay the bills after
earning millions of dollars through his
and his wife's companies after he
left office as vice president
But an analysis by DailyMail.com
of the president's financial records
shows $5.2million is unexplained
The 'missing millions' and emails
on Hunter's abandoned laptop
suggest Joe would have a 10% share in
Hunter's blockbuster deal with the Chinese]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-income.html

[arista]

OK Alf

[arista]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/MySonHunter.jpg


Film is Done Alf

When are you back on this Forum.


Director/Actor Robert Davi,
is Live now on the Number 1 USA Comedy show
Gutfield


Davi was in a Hotel
when Hunter was doing wrong.