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Kate!
13-04-2022, 03:39 PM
Boris, Richie, both or neither
Oliver_W
13-04-2022, 03:46 PM
Most of the Front Bench :joker: the "don't they know there's a war on" rhetoric doesn't fly with me - we're not at war, and any help "we" are doing isn't anything that any other reasonable government couldn't do.
smudgie
13-04-2022, 03:56 PM
Neither, if it’s just down to the so called birthday party.
However if they attended proper parties then it’s all over for them both I think.
user104658
13-04-2022, 03:57 PM
There's more or less always "a war on", is the thing... So it really can't be an excuse. I struggle with the talk of resignations though. Yes... In a perfect world... There'd be loads and they'd make things better. In the real world as it is, you'd just have one gaggle of arseholes resigning for another gaggle of arseholes to fart on over into their seats. It starts to become pointless and frustrating.
However, I will say Sunak, IF whoever takes his place actually commits to tackling the cost of energy/cost of living crisis.
I don't see them as parties, I see them as de stressing events at work, whilst going through such awful times.
Therefore, neither..for that.
But both for trying to conceal anything happened.
user104658
13-04-2022, 04:03 PM
I don't see them as parties, I see them as de stressing events at work, whilst going through such awful times.
Therefore, neither..for that.
But both for trying to conceal anything happened.Isn't this what some politician said the other day? That it's like a nurse or teacher having a glass of wine in the staff room?? :joker:
Both would be fired for gross misconduct for drinking in the staff room! Utterly ludicrous stuff.
The Slim Reaper
13-04-2022, 04:06 PM
We got rid of 2 pm's during actual ww's we were fighting. This bs about Ukraine is nothing more than an excuse they can rally around. Both should go, neither will.
Kate!
13-04-2022, 04:19 PM
Poll added to thread
Isn't this what some politician said the other day? That it's like a nurse or teacher having a glass of wine in the staff room?? :joker:
Both would be fired for gross misconduct for drinking in the staff room! Utterly ludicrous stuff.
I would like to think 70 percent of parents would have accepted that scenario at the time.
GoldHeart
13-04-2022, 05:08 PM
Both should resign. But either way we're still stuck with a crap fest government, even if the faces change it's still the same old BS over and over again :bored: .
Jordan.
13-04-2022, 05:56 PM
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UserSince2005
13-04-2022, 06:02 PM
Neither. They are owed a big apology actually
Definately not Boris. He deserved a glass of wine and a respite with all the pressure he was under.
rusticgal
13-04-2022, 06:47 PM
Definately not Boris. He deserved a glass of wine and a respite with all the pressure he was under.
I agree….he has seen us through Brexit/COVID and now negotiating through the Ukraine/Russia war…and people want him sacked for breaking a few COVID rules like 75% of the country did.
UserSince2005
13-04-2022, 06:52 PM
actually ive changed my mind on this.
Yes he shoudl resign.
Its time for priti!!!!
Crimson Dynamo
13-04-2022, 07:42 PM
i think its time now to end this rather obvious witchhunt and focus on the task at hand with illegal migrants, fuel prices and 2 digit inflation by Christmas
The Slim Reaper
13-04-2022, 07:47 PM
i think its time now to end this rather obvious witchhunt and focus on the task at hand with fuel prices and 2 digit inflation by Christmas
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Crimson Dynamo
13-04-2022, 07:53 PM
Why are pump prices so high?
The price of fuel has increased because the price for crude oil, which is used to make petrol and diesel, has risen.
At the start of the Covid pandemic demand for energy collapsed - pushing down prices.
As life has returned to normal - and demand for energy has grown - suppliers have sometimes struggled to meet this demand and prices have risen.
What impact has the war in Ukraine had?
Prices were rising before the war in Ukraine - and the fallout from Russia's invasion has made things worse.
The US has announced a complete ban on Russian oil imports. The UK is to phase out Russian oil by the end of the year.
Russia is the European Union's biggest oil trading partner and is one of the world's largest oil exporters.
It means demand for oil from other producers has increased, leading to higher prices
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52188448
bad when even the left wing BBC disagree
:laugh:
The Slim Reaper
13-04-2022, 08:04 PM
Oh right, so they were already rising? What about the fuel that heats our homes? France capped at 4% but the UK capped at 54%.
Add that to the cost of living brought on by a brexit, the NI brexit tax and yeah, we're still looking for the guys that did his. I don't expect the BBC to be impartial these days, and I definitely don't expect the alt-right to be either thorough or honest.
:blush:
Crimson Dynamo
13-04-2022, 08:13 PM
Oh right, so they were already rising? What about the fuel that heats our homes? France capped at 4% but the UK capped at 54%.
Add that to the cost of living brought on by a brexit, the NI brexit tax and yeah, we're still looking for the guys that did his. I don't expect the BBC to be impartial these days, and I definitely don't expect the alt-right to be either thorough or honest.
:blush:
the bbc are not alt right slim
what on earth are you claiming now??
The Slim Reaper
13-04-2022, 08:17 PM
the bbc are not alt right slim
what on earth are you claiming now??
I didn't call the bbc alt-right.
:blush:
if the may election results are a humiliation for the tory party, and they easily could be, then boris will be out on his ass
The rules were authoritarian and abusive and as such should have been broken. Boris was just leading from the front. He's trying to show you to not accept authoritarian and abusive rules.
Jordan.
14-04-2022, 03:03 AM
Definately not Boris. He deserved a glass of wine and a respite with all the pressure he was under.
Sure, poor Bozo it must weigh heavy knowing people were dying scared and alone because of rules you put in place and weren't following.
AnnieK
14-04-2022, 06:18 AM
Boris made the restrictions law. He broke the law.
I'm sure all the people who watched their loved ones die alone through an iPad screen were pretty stressed and could have done with time with friends and family they didn't live with but it was illegal to do so so many people didn't.
I'm sure a lot of people who are defending him would think pretty differently if they lost family members due to the pandemic and were not allowed the time with them due to the restrictions in place
He made the rules, he should have abided by them. Simple as that. Other countries must be pissing themselves at this **** show.
UserSince2005
14-04-2022, 07:14 AM
We love you Boris. Don’t listen to the bitter haters.
Just sad girls with sad lives.
UserSince2005
14-04-2022, 07:15 AM
all on Ukraine to blame
Ukraine had one job to do, submit to russia
Why would heroes submit to pussy bitch rusrats?
Boris made the restrictions law. He broke the law.
I'm sure all the people who watched their loved ones die alone through an iPad screen were pretty stressed and could have done with time with friends and family they didn't live with but it was illegal to do so so many people didn't.
I'm sure a lot of people who are defending him would think pretty differently if they lost family members due to the pandemic and were not allowed the time with them due to the restrictions in place
He made the rules, he should have abided by them. Simple as that. Other countries must be pissing themselves at this **** show.Boris didn't make the law. He's not that bright. Some woman (can't remember her name) draghted up the law. Then Boris was obliged to take the advice of medical experts, his government and Parliament. Boris was at deaths door suffering from the Covid.
rusticgal
14-04-2022, 03:07 PM
Boris made the restrictions law. He broke the law.
I'm sure all the people who watched their loved ones die alone through an iPad screen were pretty stressed and could have done with time with friends and family they didn't live with but it was illegal to do so so many people didn't.
I'm sure a lot of people who are defending him would think pretty differently if they lost family members due to the pandemic and were not allowed the time with them due to the restrictions in place
He made the rules, he should have abided by them. Simple as that. Other countries must be pissing themselves at this **** show.
To be perfectly honest rules made for Nursing Homes and Hospitals were to protect the most vulnerable and the sick. If one of my parents or grandparents lived in their own home and were dying I would have broken the rules and gone to their aid even though "we were not supposed to"...and I would not believe anyone who would say they wouldn't have done the same thing. It was completely different with Homes and Hospitals because staff and other Residents/Patients had to be protected and sadly those who passed away in those institutions were unable to have loved ones there.
Thousands of people broke the rules during Covid...thousands. Look at the demonstrations up in London. What they did was no worse than Boris with his little gatherings...he amongst many.
We seriously need to get this into perspective...
GoldHeart
14-04-2022, 04:45 PM
To be perfectly honest rules made for Nursing Homes and Hospitals were to protect the most vulnerable and the sick. If one of my parents or grandparents lived in their own home and were dying I would have broken the rules and gone to their aid even though "we were not supposed to"...and I would not believe anyone who would say they wouldn't have done the same thing. It was completely different with Homes and Hospitals because staff and other Residents/Patients had to be protected and sadly those who passed away in those institutions were unable to have loved ones there.
Thousands of people broke the rules during Covid...thousands. Look at the demonstrations up in London. What they did was no worse than Boris with his little gatherings...he amongst many.
We seriously need to get this into perspective...
Rusti ,
Boris and his merry crew were the ones who MADE the RULES , therefore it was his responsibility to KEEP them and ABIDE by them. If he can't even follow his own rules & restrictions then what is the point. The bloke was already a deceitful lying joke ,but more so now .
And I'm fed up of the excuse of " oh well people were breaking rules anyway" , that's not the point . They're not the ones running this country. And just think of all the loved ones people have lost in lockdown who they couldn't see ,there was funerals people couldn't attend.
Some of us were still following these so called rules. And no not everyone visited their loved ones as they were told not to . Sure they zoomed called & rang them but it wouldn't have been the same. People were worried they'd spread the virus when we were in heavy lockdown, plus there was the threat of people getting 'fined' aswell.
People were going through depression , dying etc and Boris & his mates are having p1ss take cheese & wine parties ,and he was laughing in all of our faces . I don't know how anyone can still go easy on him or even begin to defend him. It's truly baffling.
Boris didn't make the law. He's not that bright. Some woman (can't remember her name) draghted up the law. Then Boris was obliged to take the advice of medical experts, his government and Parliament. Boris was at deaths door suffering from the Covid.
Boris did make the law, on the day of one of the parties, he was telling everyone live on TV that they shouldn't mix etc. However, he made everything worse by consistently lying about it. Blatantly he lied to parliament and the british people.
Now, it may be that many think it's not important, but elections will show one way or another, and there is a bunch happening in may, so we dont have long to wait to see what the public think of him
Boris did make the law, on the day of one of the parties, he was telling everyone live on TV that they shouldn't mix etc. However, he made everything worse by consistently lying about it. Blatantly he lied to parliament and the british people.
Now, it may be that many think it's not important, but elections will show one way or another, and there is a bunch happening in may, so we dont have long to wait to see what the public think of himPolitician lies shocker!
I don't think people's votes are gonna be changed because Boris had some jelly and Ice cream and played pass the parcel.
these werent standard politician crap, he lied in parliament and you wont find many mps who have lied there.
I'm not one of those that think boris is crucial to deal with the war in ukraine. So there is no reason for him to be kept on. He is passed his sell by date, he won't be leader at the next election, so i think its better to get rid of him now
rusticgal
14-04-2022, 06:06 PM
Rusti ,
Boris and his merry crew were the ones who MADE the RULES , therefore it was his responsibility to KEEP them and ABIDE by them. If he can't even follow his own rules & restrictions then what is the point. The bloke was already a deceitful lying joke ,but more so now .
And I'm fed up of the excuse of " oh well people were breaking rules anyway" , that's not the point . They're not the ones running this country. And just think of all the loved ones people have lost in lockdown who they couldn't see ,there was funerals people couldn't attend.
Some of us were still following these so called rules. And no not everyone visited their loved ones as they were told not to . Sure they zoomed called & rang them but it wouldn't have been the same. People were worried they'd spread the virus when we were in heavy lockdown, plus there was the threat of people getting 'fined' aswell.
People were going through depression , dying etc and Boris & his mates are having p1ss take cheese & wine parties ,and he was laughing in all of our faces . I don't know how anyone can still go easy on him or even begin to defend him. It's truly baffling.
I get that but I think you have missed my point. Had Boris gone to visit his mother in a care home or had a huge funeral gathering for a loved one when the rest of us could’nt then I would get the baying for his head…and yes he and his Crew set the rules and he should be setting an example…but it was one or 2 small gatherings with work colleagues who were leading us through a Pandemic…and having led us through Brexit…
Now he is negotiating with Ukraine and helping them with their war….and people want him to lose his job over principle…that’s where I think it’s out of context imo.
I get that but I think you have missed my point. Had Boris gone to visit his mother in a care home or had a huge funeral gathering for a loved one when the rest of us could’nt then I would get the baying for his head…and yes he and his Crew set the rules and he should be setting an example…but it was one or 2 small gatherings with work colleagues who were leading us through a Pandemic…and having led us through Brexit…
Now he is negotiating with Ukraine and helping them with their war….and people want him to lose his job over principle…that’s where I think it’s out of context imo.
:clap1:
UserSince2005
14-04-2022, 06:32 PM
Boris is a hero, all the haters would have quit in his position and pussed out.
He soldier through the pandemic
He was our guiding light
What a man
user104658
14-04-2022, 07:10 PM
I get that but I think you have missed my point. Had Boris gone to visit his mother in a care home or had a huge funeral gathering for a loved one when the rest of us could’nt then I would get the baying for his head…and yes he and his Crew set the rules and he should be setting an example…but it was one or 2 small gatherings with work colleagues who were leading us through a Pandemic…and having led us through Brexit…
Now he is negotiating with Ukraine and helping them with their war….and people want him to lose his job over principle…that’s where I think it’s out of context imo."led us through Brexit" :joker:
I get that but I think you have missed my point. Had Boris gone to visit his mother in a care home or had a huge funeral gathering for a loved one when the rest of us could’nt then I would get the baying for his head…and yes he and his Crew set the rules and he should be setting an example…but it was one or 2 small gatherings with work colleagues who were leading us through a Pandemic…and having led us through Brexit…
Now he is negotiating with Ukraine and helping them with their war….and people want him to lose his job over principle…that’s where I think it’s out of context imo.
Exactly! :clap1:
if the may election results are a humiliation for the tory party, and they easily could be, then boris will be out on his ass
That is where he will be judged.
Glenn.
15-04-2022, 01:14 AM
I get that but I think you have missed my point. Had Boris gone to visit his mother in a care home or had a huge funeral gathering for a loved one when the rest of us could’nt then I would get the baying for his head…and yes he and his Crew set the rules and he should be setting an example…but it was one or 2 small gatherings with work colleagues who were leading us through a Pandemic…and having led us through Brexit…
Now he is negotiating with Ukraine and helping them with their war….and people want him to lose his job over principle…that’s where I think it’s out of context imo.
‘Over principle’
He broke the law that he created.
‘Over principle’
He broke the law that he created.
It’s unlikely that HE created it .. tbf
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It’s unlikely that HE created it .. tbf
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he is the prime minister, nothing gets done without his express approval and authorisation
AnnieK
15-04-2022, 07:43 AM
Let's face it...Boris is a proven liar. He is more than comfortable lying to the public, Parliament and the Queeb. He lied about the £350million to the NHS during Brexit, he lied to the Queen to prorogue Parliament, he lied to Parliament and the whole of the GBP over Partygate. The people defending him are, in the main, those who have spent the last 2 years castigating another person for lying. Now, Boris' lies have effected every person in the UK but for some reason they are justifiable. I honesty don't get it. :shrug:
Its the lies and ease that they trip off his tongue that annoys me.....not really that he broke the law.
Crimson Dynamo
15-04-2022, 09:21 AM
Let's face it...Boris is a proven liar. He is more than comfortable lying to the public, Parliament and the Queeb. He lied about the £350million to the NHS during Brexit, he lied to the Queen to prorogue Parliament, he lied to Parliament and the whole of the GBP over Partygate. The people defending him are, in the main, those who have spent the last 2 years castigating another person for lying. Now, Boris' lies have effected every person in the UK but for some reason they are justifiable. I honesty don't get it. :shrug:
Its the lies and ease that they trip off his tongue that annoys me.....not really that he broke the law.
every top politician lies regularly
Boris just gets caught out more
AnnieK
15-04-2022, 09:33 AM
every top politician lies regularly
Boris just gets caught out more
And? What's your point? Does that make things better? Prime Minister Pinocchio should be held accountable for his repeated falsehoods
Let's face it...Boris is a proven liar. He is more than comfortable lying to the public, Parliament and the Queeb. He lied about the £350million to the NHS during Brexit, he lied to the Queen to prorogue Parliament, he lied to Parliament and the whole of the GBP over Partygate. The people defending him are, in the main, those who have spent the last 2 years castigating another person for lying. Now, Boris' lies have effected every person in the UK but for some reason they are justifiable. I honesty don't get it. :shrug:
Its the lies and ease that they trip off his tongue that annoys me.....not really that he broke the law.
He is no worse than ANY other politician though ... that’s been my stance all along
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every top politician lies regularly
Boris just gets caught out more
He gets caught out more as he is THE target ..
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AnnieK
15-04-2022, 10:02 AM
He gets caught out more as he is THE target ..
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It's not hard though...tell the truth, admit you messed up and moved on then there's nothing to catch out.
He's the highest ranking Politician...of course people will scrutinise what he does and says and quite righty
Crimson Dynamo
15-04-2022, 10:21 AM
And? What's your point? Does that make things better? Prime Minister Pinocchio should be held accountable for his repeated falsehoods
My point is that it seems as the news media portray him to be the only one
My point is that it seems as the news media portray him to be the only one
he is the only one that is the current PM
rusticgal
15-04-2022, 11:28 AM
It's not hard though...tell the truth, admit you messed up and moved on then there's nothing to catch out.
He's the highest ranking Politician...of course people will scrutinise what he does and says and quite righty
Own up and apologise....then everyone will forgive him and move on :joker:
I don't think so....
AnnieK
15-04-2022, 11:31 AM
My point is that it seems as the news media portray him to be the only one
Why, who else went to lie to the Queen to pororgue parliament? Who else has broken ministerial code by repeatedly lying to parliament on the issue when asked directly?
All media call out politicians who lie....as you well know. Right now the highest ranking among them has been caught out.....again. You think that shouldn't be front page news? What else is he lying about?
AnnieK
15-04-2022, 11:32 AM
Own up and apologise....then everyone will forgive him and move on :joker:
I don't think so....
So you think he should bare faced lie? What basis of a Government is that? :laugh:
Weird
This would have been over and done with now had he done just that and owned it. Now he looks far more duplicitous
rusticgal
15-04-2022, 12:10 PM
So you think he should bare faced lie? What basis of a Government is that? :laugh:
Weird
This would have been over and done with now had he done just that and owned it. Now he looks far more duplicitous
But that's just it...it wouldn't have been over. He should have put his hands up but people would still want him out.
Its all been blown up well out of proportion...there's a war going on...and all we can talk about is getting Boris thrown out of office for having a few drinks with work collegues after having worked with them all day tackling Covid. It pales into insignificance when there are atrocities going on in the world...
its all a bit pathetic imo.
Also Annie I never have condoned lying...most politicians are hypocrites and liars.
the moment he lied repeatedly in parliament it was all over for Boris, he just doesnt know it yet
Crimson Dynamo
15-04-2022, 12:16 PM
Why, who else went to lie to the Queen to pororgue parliament? Who else has broken ministerial code by repeatedly lying to parliament on the issue when asked directly?
All media call out politicians who lie....as you well know. Right now the highest ranking among them has been caught out.....again. You think that shouldn't be front page news? What else is he lying about?
Chilcot: Tony Blair was not 'straight with the nation' over Iraq war
"Chilcot’s report, published in July last year, found that the former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein posed “no imminent threat” at the time of the invasion of his country in 2003, and the war was fought on the basis of “flawed” intelligence. It found that the cabinet’s decision to invade was made in circumstances that were “far from satisfactory”.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/06/chilcot-tony-blair-was-not-straight-with-the-nation-over-iraq-war
this rather big fib led to rathger a lot of death
AnnieK
15-04-2022, 12:26 PM
Chilcot: Tony Blair was not 'straight with the nation' over Iraq war
"Chilcot’s report, published in July last year, found that the former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein posed “no imminent threat” at the time of the invasion of his country in 2003, and the war was fought on the basis of “flawed” intelligence. It found that the cabinet’s decision to invade was made in circumstances that were “far from satisfactory”.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/06/chilcot-tony-blair-was-not-straight-with-the-nation-over-iraq-war
this rather big fib led to rathger a lot of death
Not sure why you're showing me that....its been well known for years that Blair's lies sent us to a war that never needed to happen :shrug: He was in every paper at the time once those lies were uncovered :shrug:
I can only assume you're highlighting that as you think I'm a labour supporter? I have never shared my political affiliations in here,nor would I ever. I can however, say that I think Boris is a liar and not fit for office right now
user104658
15-04-2022, 12:31 PM
It's really quite an odd stance to take to insist that the PM shouldn't be held to higher standards than other politicians... And that politicians in general should t be held to higher standards than a shelf stacker at Aldi. "Loads of folk were doing it!" as an excuse for the people in charge of the entire country doing it is just... completely ridiculous...
GoldHeart
15-04-2022, 03:29 PM
Not sure why you're showing me that....its been well known for years that Blair's lies sent us to a war that never needed to happen :shrug: He was in every paper at the time once those lies were uncovered :shrug:
I can only assume you're highlighting that as you think I'm a labour supporter? I have never shared my political affiliations in here,nor would I ever. I can however, say that I think Boris is a liar and not fit for office right now
It's a poor distraction technique. Look how many years Blair has been out of office ,the man is old and grey now yet people continue to bring up his failures now , nobody will ever forget the war in Iraq and how it was the worst idea . But some would rather dwell on that Instead of admitting Boris is a useless lying sack of crap. Funny how Boris gets forgiven no matter what he does.
Labour get dragged into everything ,even though the conservatives are the ones destroying this country at the moment and have been for the past 12 or so years.
Crimson Dynamo
15-04-2022, 03:49 PM
Not sure why you're showing me that....its been well known for years that Blair's lies sent us to a war that never needed to happen :shrug: He was in every paper at the time once those lies were uncovered :shrug:
I can only assume you're highlighting that as you think I'm a labour supporter? I have never shared my political affiliations in here,nor would I ever. I can however, say that I think Boris is a liar and not fit for office right now
You were citing Boris lies as something special and unique and I was just reminding you that every PM is full of lies and TB's one was pretty impactful
GoldHeart
15-04-2022, 03:55 PM
You were citing Boris lies as something special and unique and I was just reminding you that every PM is full of lies and TB's one was pretty impactful
Boris' lies are impactful & will continue to be ,yet he'll be forgiven and let off. Stop bringing up Blair's disaster. Boris is the one currently in office, not Blair ,not Corbyn
and not Brown .
rusticgal
15-04-2022, 03:59 PM
Boris' lies are impactful & will continue to be ,yet he'll be forgiven and let off. Stop bringing up Blair's disaster. Boris is the one currently in office, not Blair ,not Corbyn
and not Brown .
How are Boris's lies impacting you?
AnnieK
15-04-2022, 04:28 PM
You were citing Boris lies as something special and unique and I was just reminding you that every PM is full of lies and TB's one was pretty impactful
Where was I citing it as unique or special? I pointed out some of his lies. I never said that it was in anyway special or unheard of. I said he will be scrutinised as he is the current highest ranking. :shrug:
I'm not a child LT, I know politicians lie....I have seen a fair few come and go so please don't patronise me please.
Crimson Dynamo
15-04-2022, 04:31 PM
Where was I citing it as unique or special? I pointed out some of his lies. I never said that it was in anyway special or unheard of. I said he will be scrutinised as he is the current highest ranking. :shrug:
I'm not a child LT, I know politicians lie....I have seen a fair few come and go so please don't patronise me please.
YOu said in relation to all PM'S lying:
"Why, who else went to lie to the Queen to pororgue parliament? Who else has broken ministerial code by repeatedly lying to parliament on the issue when asked directly?"
ie making out that this was somehow different?
or am i missing the point:shrug:
Kate!
15-04-2022, 04:33 PM
YOu said in relation to all PM'S lying:
"Why, who else went to lie to the Queen to pororgue parliament? Who else has broken ministerial code by repeatedly lying to parliament on the issue when asked directly?"
ie making out that this was somehow different?
or am i missing the point:shrug:
But it IS different LT.
AnnieK
15-04-2022, 04:35 PM
YOu said in relation to all PM'S lying:
"Why, who else went to lie to the Queen to pororgue parliament? Who else has broken ministerial code by repeatedly lying to parliament on the issue when asked directly?"
ie making out that this was somehow different?
or am i missing the point:shrug:
Which other PM prorogued parliament by lying to the Queen which was found to be unlawful?
Which other serving PM has been investigated by the Police.
You're right....his lies are fairly unique actually unless you can tell me different?
Doesn't mean I don't know other Politicians and PMs have lied with some pretty dire consequences but neither does that mean that Boris' lies can be justified
user104658
15-04-2022, 04:40 PM
You were citing Boris lies as something special and unique and I was just reminding you that every PM is full of lies and TB's one was pretty impactful
"They all do it so we shouldn't be surprised or bothered when the current one does it" is a pretty bleak race to the bottom in terms of accountability.
Crimson Dynamo
15-04-2022, 04:43 PM
"they all do it so we shouldn't be surprised or bothered when the current one does it" is a pretty bleak race to the bottom in terms of accountability.
thats politics for you
personal greed and need for importance disguised as working for the greater good
GoldHeart
15-04-2022, 04:48 PM
Cliche motto "ahhhh all politicians lie oh well" . So basically let's just shake our heads and giggle and say " awww Boris what's he like eh " . As he continues to never be held accountable for his actions.
rusticgal
15-04-2022, 05:27 PM
Cliche motto "ahhhh all politicians lie oh well" . So basically let's just shake our heads and giggle and say " awww Boris what's he like eh " . As he continues to never be held accountable for his actions.
He probably will be held accountable at the next elections…if people want him to pay for his actions then that’s the time to do it.
Personally I think Boris has done well as a Prime Minister…he has had to deal with a lot in his leadership. He has made mistakes…but until I can see someone who can do a better job he will continue to get my vote.
Crimson Dynamo
15-04-2022, 05:49 PM
Cliche motto "ahhhh all politicians lie oh well" . So basically let's just shake our heads and giggle and say " awww Boris what's he like eh " . As he continues to never be held accountable for his actions.
he has just been fined by the police
i think that qualifies as been held accountable
:shrug:
GoldHeart
15-04-2022, 06:15 PM
he has just been fined by the police
i think that qualifies as been held accountable
:shrug:
Awww the poor thing, I'm sure that £50 will ruin him :notimpressed:.
rusticgal
15-04-2022, 06:40 PM
he has just been fined by the police
i think that qualifies as been held accountable
:shrug:
Yup…paying the penalty like anyone else. :laugh:
Crimson Dynamo
15-04-2022, 06:47 PM
Yup…paying the penalty like anyone else. :laugh:
Id imagine he will put it through the expenses account
GoldHeart
15-04-2022, 06:50 PM
Yup…paying the penalty like anyone else. :laugh:
No Boris isn't like ' anyone else ' , his fine won't exactly break his levee.... compared to someone living off food banks ,and not knowing if they'll be able to afford their gas & electricity bill for the month.
rusticgal
15-04-2022, 06:54 PM
No Boris isn't like ' anyone else ' , his fine won't exactly break his levee.... compared to someone living off food banks ,and not knowing if they'll be able to afford their gas & electricity bill for the month.
What’s that got to do with paying a fine?…..he is paying a fine like everybody else who broke the covid rules….why are you taking it out of context?
The Slim Reaper
15-04-2022, 07:15 PM
Anyone fined at the time was given a £10k fine, not £50,
These were the conditions we were living under at the time:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQXbuoZWYAUY8D8?format=jpg&name=medium
Someone relying on food banks, would not have been partying.
If they had, I pity anyone depending on them.
Crazy hyper txt...something that disappeared in the late 90s..that's suddenly started resurrging its ugly head from the left
The Slim Reaper
15-04-2022, 07:21 PM
Someone relying on food banks, would not have been partying.
If they had, I pity anyone depending on them.
Crazy hyper txt...something that disappeared in the late 90s..that's suddenly started resurrging its ugly head from the left
Poor people don't or shouldn't have parties?
The Slim Reaper
15-04-2022, 07:22 PM
Also, lots of professional careers such as nurses use foodbanks.
Poor people don't or shouldn't have parties?
Couldn't
The Slim Reaper
15-04-2022, 07:24 PM
Couldn't
What's the distinction?
Also, lots of professional careers such as nurses use foodbanks.
Yeah, I've seen them moaning on the bus everyday about having to feed their 6 kids.
What's the distinction?
This isnt question time slim.
The Slim Reaper
15-04-2022, 07:28 PM
Yeah, I've seen them moaning on the bus everyday about having to feed their 6 kids.
What a scummy post.
What a scummy post.
One cant help what they observe.:shrug:
The Slim Reaper
15-04-2022, 07:36 PM
One cant help what they observe.:shrug:
When you're making it up, of course you can help it :shrug:
They also moan about the fear of having to be fully jabbed, more regularly than the other thing I may add.
But like I say, I cant help being an observer.
So sadiq and his crazy new policies can do one.
The Slim Reaper
15-04-2022, 07:40 PM
They also moan about the fear of having to be fully jabbed, more regularly than the other thing I may add.
But like I say, I cant help being an observer.
So sadiq and his crazy new policies can do one.
Ahh, its that time in the evening. The complete incoherence now makes perfect sense. Enjoy your evening, parm.
When you're making it up, of course you can help it :shrug:
You just made up that you know me...to dispel the fact that I observe these things as my bus stops everyday at basildon hospital...the 100 from grays...or the 200 if I decide to have a 15 minute lay in EVERY MORNING, since 2015
Full of I know you all bollocks as usual..slim..
Ahh, its that time in the evening. The complete incoherence now makes perfect sense. Enjoy your evening, parm.
You fit right in with sadiqs no staring policies in public transport.
Take they eye of the rucksack if you want slim....but km more a listener, and the things I post, are the things ive heard, and talked about with the nurses and porters that alight my bus each day..
Crimson Dynamo
15-04-2022, 07:44 PM
Also, lots of professional careers such as nurses use foodbanks.
can you provide a link?
i wasn't aware food bank users were quizzed about employment?
The Slim Reaper
15-04-2022, 07:44 PM
can you provide a link?
i wasn't aware food bank users were quizzed about employment?
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-12-17/revealed-nurses-forced-to-use-food-banks-as-covid-and-financial-pressures-drive-many-to-brink-of-quitting
The Slim Reaper
15-04-2022, 07:46 PM
You just made up that you know me...to dispel the fact that I observe these things as my bus stops everyday at basildon hospital...the 100 from grays...or the 200 if I decide to have a 15 minute lay in EVERY MORNING, since 2015
No I didn't. I just said your made up anecdote about a nurse moaning about feeding her 6 kids everyday, was exactly what I said first time - bollocks.
39 percent of nurses have skipped meals...
But 61 percent of ethnic nurses have skipped meal...
I think those figures back up my bus observation about 6 kids.
Crimson Dynamo
15-04-2022, 07:50 PM
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-12-17/revealed-nurses-forced-to-use-food-banks-as-covid-and-financial-pressures-drive-many-to-brink-of-quitting
that "link" cites ONE nurse
:shrug:
one is not lots
The Slim Reaper
15-04-2022, 07:54 PM
that "link" cites ONE nurse
:shrug:
one is not lots
So? If you use google you can find loads of info. I just assumed you had no real interest, so I just posted the first link, but you're welcome to investigate if you wish.
So? If you use google you can find loads of info. I just assumed you had no real interest, so I just posted the first link, but you're welcome to investigate if you wish.
Dont listen to him LT..
Stay out in the real world, make your own observations and leave him flapping about the internet like a thirsty salmon
Crimson Dynamo
15-04-2022, 08:04 PM
So? If you use google you can find loads of info. I just assumed you had no real interest, so I just posted the first link, but you're welcome to investigate if you wish.
We also spoke to the Trussell Trust, the largest food bank network in the UK,
which told us that the people who use its services aren’t asked what job they
have. So we don’t know how many nurses are being referred to it. But the Trust
did say that it “had occasional reports from [its] foodbanks of nurses being
referred for emergency food”.
https://fullfact.org/economy/how-many-nurses-are-using-foodbanks/
:facepalm:
The Slim Reaper
15-04-2022, 08:07 PM
We also spoke to the Trussell Trust, the largest food bank network in the UK,
which told us that the people who use its services aren’t asked what job they
have. So we don’t know how many nurses are being referred to it. But the Trust
did say that it “had occasional reports from [its] foodbanks of nurses being
referred for emergency food”.
https://fullfact.org/economy/how-many-nurses-are-using-foodbanks/
:facepalm:
What do you think that proves, and how do you think it disproves the point I made?
The Slim Reaper
15-04-2022, 08:10 PM
Dont listen to him LT..
Stay out in the real world, make your own observations and leave him flapping about the internet like a thirsty salmon
You're a good friend to LT, parmy.
You're a good friend to LT, parmy.
Can we get back to my observations and the figures.:shrug:
Kizzy
16-04-2022, 07:05 AM
39 percent of nurses have skipped meals...
But 61 percent of ethnic nurses have skipped meal...
I think those figures back up my bus observation about 6 kids.
What does this back up, how does the one nurse you 'overheard' relate to ethnicity and the number of children they have?
Where are your statistics from?
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