Netflix loses subscribers for first time in a decade

[bots]

The number of Netflix subscribers has fallen for the first time in more than a decade.

The streaming company lost 200,000 members in the first three months of the year, the company said on Tuesday.

The declines came after the firm raised prices in key markets including the US and UK, while pulling out of Russia.

But Netflix warned that more losses are coming, and it hinted it will start to crack down on account sharing as it pushes to sign up new members.

It estimates more than 100 million households are breaking its rules by sharing passwords.

Boss Reed Hastings said: "When we were growing fast, it wasn't a high priority to work on [acount sharing]. And now we're working super hard on it."

Lucas Shaw, who writes the Screentime newsletter for Bloomberg news, told the BBC that password sharing had been an issue for Netflix "for a long time".

"It feels like the company is trying to identify an area of potential growth," he told the Today programme.

"They've tried to curb password sharing in the past and had a very hard time."
n a letter to shareholders, Netflix said a surge in sign-ups it saw during the pandemic had "obscured the picture" and it warned that another two million subscribers were likely to leave in the three months to July.

"Our revenue growth has slowed considerably as our results and forecast below show," the company said.

"Our relatively high household penetration - when including the large number of households sharing accounts - combined with competition, is creating revenue growth headwinds."

The last time the company lost members in a quarter was October 2011. It still boasts more than 220 million subscribers globally.
Pulling out of Russia, a step Netflix took following the war in Ukraine, cost it 700,000 subscribers, it said.

Another 600,000 people stopped its service in the US and Canada after the price increase, Netflix said.

Netflix said that move was playing out "in line with expectations" and would yield more money for the firm, despite the cancellations.

The firm's revenue in the first three months of the year was up 9.8% compared with the same period last year to more than $7.8bn (£6bn).

That marked a slowdown from earlier quarters, while profits fell more than 6% to roughly $1.6bn.

Losses in the quarter were partially offset by sign-ups elsewhere such as Japan and India.

As it looks to grow, the firm said it is focused on international markets and finding ways to tap the 100 million people it estimates are sharing household accounts, including more than 30 million in the US and Canada.

The company is looking to advertising and getting revenues from customers who share accounts with family or friends..

"Those who have followed Netflix know that I've been against the complexity of advertising, and a big fan of the simplicity of subscription," said Mr Hastings. "But, as much as I'm a fan of that, I'm a bigger fan of consumer choice."

Mr Hastings said "it's pretty clear" that ad-supported services are working for Disney and HBO.

But analysts said rising costs are starting to wear on households.

In the UK, households cancelled more than 1.5 million streaming subscriptions in the first three months of the year, with 38% saying they wanted to save money - the highest level ever, according to research from market research firm Kantar.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61153252

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it's all about price and competition when the cost of living is rising at alarming rates

[Niamh.]

I haven't stopped my subscription yet but that was a massive price hike so I'm considering it if there's a better option. Any suggestions? I do use netflix a lot tbf

[bots]

there are always dodgy options available, and more and more people will drift over to that, which is a shame, because we will end up with less content

[arista]

Netflix put their prices up.

They never thought it would backfire

[Niamh.]

there are always dodgy options available, and more and more people will drift over to that, which is a shame, because we will end up with less content

Yeah I know about those but actual legit streaming companies I mean. I had a year free subscription with Amazon Prime but I wasn't too into that one

[bots]

i have a selection of subs. What i find is that I need to be in the mood for a particular type of programme and the variety of subs covers my moods. To me, none of them are enough on their own

[Niamh.]

i have a selection of subs. What i find is that I need to be in the mood for a particular type of programme and the variety of subs covers my moods. To me, none of them are enough on their own

I just find it's handy for the kids to have the multi viewing, when they're in their rooms or wherever and you can download shows/films on to your phone (without worrying about viruses etc) with netflix for if you're travelling

[Nicky91]

i mainly watch Netflix now just for Riverdale, Legends of Tomorrow, Camp Cretaceous, Power Rangers Dino Fury


but i'm also loving Disney+ now, began rewatching Suite Life of Zack & Cody recently :love: busy now with Moon Knight, and because its also on there, maybe when TWD's finale has aired here, maybe thinking of starting over again, another big franchise series which i want to keep rewatching


we have Viaplay for Formula 1 (first time our tv provider does not have rights for that, might tempt to check out some scandinavian series on there too with subs ofc)



i basically have my own netflix and disney+ profile now, find this handy not to get content from what my parents are watching :laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

I think Netflix needs to create quality TV again.

Love these Shows or not but things like Dark, Sense8, Mindhunter, the first Season's of Stranger Things & 13 Reasons Why, The Haunting Of Hill House, they need to get back to this level because they'll keep losing subscribers if the benchmark in quality is The Witcher Season 2 which was just a training arc essentially.

But of course they're blaming everything but their own incompetence.

[UserSince2005]

Paramount plus really has shook Netflix with their real world homecoming series

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[user104658]

I think Netflix needs to create quality TV again.

Love these Shows or not but things like Dark, Sense8, Mindhunter, the first Season's of Stranger Things & 13 Reasons Why, The Haunting Of Hill House, they need to get back to this level because they'll keep losing subscribers if the benchmark in quality is The Witcher Season 2 which was just a training arc essentially.

But of course they're blaming everything but their own incompetence.

I agree, at some point they went for quantity over quality but I think that's party because of the model; if they just have a handful of high-quality, high-budget shows... people could sign up for a couple of months a year (say December and July) and binge all the good content for a fraction of the cost. They're trying to keep people subbed long-term as that's where the money is.

I know a lot of people (students etc.) cycle through subs in this way; they get Netflix for a month and ninge the shows they want to see, cancel and get Disney+ and binge all the new Marvel stuff etc, cancel and get Prime ... etc. and then repeat again a few months later.

I disagree on The Witcher S2 though, I really enjoyed it and in fact preferred it to S1 in many ways.

I also disagree that "13 Reasons Why" is an example of quality, utter pish :joker:. Cobra Kai is all the teen drama I need :flutter:. Probably by merit of being over the top/funny/self-aware.

[Niamh.]

The last season of Cobra Kai was so good :flutter: I was getting worried that it had given all it could in the 1st 2 seasons because I didn't love S3 but S4 really pulled me back in again

[user104658]

The last season of Cobra Kai was so good :flutter: I was getting worried that it had given all it could in the 1st 2 seasons because I didn't love S3 but S4 really pulled me back in again

Perched for Johnny, Daniel and Kreese forming an unlikely alliance to take on an entire Mexican Cartel using only karate in S5 :joker:

[James]

Cobra Kai is basically the reason I keep my Netflix subscription, heh. I could get DVDs or buy downloads to watch episodes but S4 isn't out on that yet, and I don't own a blu-ray player either.

I cancelled Amazon Prime, Apple TV, and I'm going to get rid of Xbox Game Pass. I might cancel Disney+ also because Moon Knight isn't really doing it for me (haven't watched the latest episode yet).

[GoldHeart]

Netflix is the only streaming platform I bother with. I noticed there's some new stuff on there I might look at.

But if prices keep going up ,I don't know what they expect customers to do .

[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

I agree, at some point they went for quantity over quality but I think that's party because of the model; if they just have a handful of high-quality, high-budget shows... people could sign up for a couple of months a year (say December and July) and binge all the good content for a fraction of the cost. They're trying to keep people subbed long-term as that's where the money is.

I know a lot of people (students etc.) cycle through subs in this way; they get Netflix for a month and ninge the shows they want to see, cancel and get Disney+ and binge all the new Marvel stuff etc, cancel and get Prime ... etc. and then repeat again a few months later.

I disagree on The Witcher S2 though, I really enjoyed it and in fact preferred it to S1 in many ways.

I also disagree that "13 Reasons Why" is an example of quality, utter pish :joker:. Cobra Kai is all the teen drama I need :flutter:. Probably by merit of being over the top/funny/self-aware.

The Witcher Season 2 just felt like a GOT wannabe imo, with a bizarre amount of focus on Ciri training.:joker:

I haven't seen Cobra Kai tbf.

And I feel like Season 1 of 13 Reasons Why was well made for a Teen Show, Season 2 however was garbage.:joker:

For me Netflix making things like Bly Manor, Sweet Tooth & Midnight Mass were the death of the platform for me.

The only good Shows on the platform now imo are Arcane & Alice In Borderland out of what I've watched on there.

[Jordan.]

Only giving GLOW the last season it deserved can save them now.

[michael21]

I haven't stopped my subscription yet but that was a massive price hike so I'm considering it if there's a better option. Any suggestions? I do use netflix a lot tbf

No :idc:

[thesheriff443]

I Haven’t got Netflix and rarely watch tv.

[Cherie]

I think this drop is a combination of the price hike and a correction in the market from when people had little else to do during lockdown...

[bots]

there is lots of good programming to be found on netflix, you just have to try things that don't automatically jump out at you as a must watch

[user104658]

Cobra Kai is basically the reason I keep my Netflix subscription, heh. I could get DVDs or buy downloads to watch episodes but S4 isn't out on that yet, and I don't own a blu-ray player either.

I cancelled Amazon Prime, Apple TV, and I'm going to get rid of Xbox Game Pass. I might cancel Disney+ also because Moon Knight isn't really doing it for me (haven't watched the latest episode yet).

I got rid of Disney, or rather, I had a year-long sub that expired and I didn't bother to renew. All I watch on it is the Marvel stuff so there's no point keeping it as a permanent fixture, I'll just wait for the Marvel ones I'm interested in to come out and then sub for a month :shrug:. I don't watch them week to week anyway, I wait for the finale then watch "netflix style".

Prime actually has a lot of good shows... in fact the majority of things we've watched lately that I'd consider actual "good quality viewing" have been via Prime membership. We use Amazon constantly anyway though so we'll always have Prime, for Prime Delivery. Couldn't live without it :joker:.

Netflix, as soon as they put the sub cost up, I dropped 4k and went down to the 1080p package. My eyes aren't good enough these days to see any difference from across the room anyway! I like my 4k gaming but honestly 1080p is fine for TV and movies :shrug:.

[bots]

Shares in Netflix have slumped by 35% after it revealed a sharp drop in subscribers and warned millions more are set to quit the streaming service.

It wiped more than $50bn off the firm's market value as experts warned it faced a struggle to get back on track.

Netflix faces intense competition from streaming rivals, but was also hit after it raised prices and left Russia.

Yet some cast doubt on its plans to boost growth, which include bringing in a free ad-supported service.

It also plans to crack down on password sharing, estimating that more than 100 million non-paying households watch the service this way.

In a sign of the unease, one of America's best known investors, William Ackman, ditched his $1.1bn investment in Netflix on Wednesday, taking a loss of more than $400m.

[user104658]

Part of the issue of course is that it was "the first of it's kind" ... Netflix was sort of synonymous with streaming for quite a while. But now that other content creators are creating their own streaming platforms... it's inevitable that it's going to lose market share.

[bots]

Amazon just bought a mega studio that has a ton of content too, so that makes it a lot more attractive

[Kizzy]

Pulling out of Russia, password sharing and the price hike will be affecting all subscription services surely, why highlight Netflix?

[user104658]

Amazon just bought a mega studio that has a ton of content too, so that makes it a lot more attractive

Yes and it's MGM which means they now own Stargate! :omgno:. They would be mad not to do something with the franchise, it still has massive potential and a huge cult fan base. My personal preference would be to keep the OG series as canon of course, rather than a full reboot... but I'd accept a reboot if done well. The best of SG was really when humans were the scrappy underdogs taking on advanced aliens with their comparatively primitive equipment, their only "futuristic tech" being the gate itself which they knew how to use but didn't fully understand.

They eventually had their own starships and by the end the Asgardians (who went extinct) had gifted them all of their technology. 'twas a different show then, more star-trekky with humans being a powerful race in the galaxy.

Anyway... yes... Stargate content pls Amazon :laugh:.

[Niamh.]

also I don't know how they can clamp down on Password sharing anyway, if you're paying for 5 users at once for example, why can't 5 different people use it?

[user104658]

Pulling out of Russia, password sharing and the price hike will be affecting all subscription services surely, why highlight Netflix?

Netflix is struggling... I don't know if others have pulled out of Russia, but then they might not have as big a presence to begin with. Also none have hiked prices as significantly as Netflix. the Disney+ sub went up quite a bit but it's still not hugely expensive at £8, it has a tonne of content it didn't have at the start, and it was only cheaper before as a sort of "introductory price" while it got off the ground. Netflix "full" (4k) prices are a whopping £16 a month in comparison. Amazon Prime is also £8 a month, and that's for Prime Delivery as well. Even the cheaper non-4k Netflix package is £11.

Password sharing I think is a bit of a red herring really - there's no guarantee that people who are sharing passwords around would actually be paying for it otherwise... you can't project that into any actual figures. A lot of students probably do it for example - continue using the family's Netflix account after moving away from home... which in all honesty I think should be allowed (so long as they're in uni halls etc.)... but it might be more sensible to introduce a "student offer" of say £4.99 a month. Amazon has this for example.

[bots]

also I don't know how they can clamp down on Password sharing anyway, if you're paying for 5 users at once for example, why can't 5 different people use it?

they have clamped down on vpn usage, i know that :fist: So im guessing they will just expand that side of it

[Niamh.]

they have clamped down on vpn usage, i know that :fist: So im guessing they will just expand that side of it

How would they clamp down on it though? If you're paying for a certain amount of screens why can't that many people use it? What even are the rules anyway? Are you all supposed to be living in the same house or is it limited to family members? Like my step son uses ours but he doesn't live with us, is that allowed or not? I'm paying extra so he can use it though so what's the point in clamping down? If they stopped him from using it, he wouldn't pay for it himself and I'd pay for a smaller package (or just leave) so they'd be shooting themselves in the foot anyway

[user104658]

also I don't know how they can clamp down on Password sharing anyway, if you're paying for 5 users at once for example, why can't 5 different people use it?

To be fair, if everyone did that it would make the effective price of the standard package £2/month per household... there's no way that would be sustainable :joker:

they have clamped down on vpn usage, i know that :fist: So im guessing they will just expand that side of it

You're allowed to use it out of the house though, that's sort of part of the appeal. They could perhaps flag if people are frequently using it from two different IP locations and it's obviously two different households. However if the non-main-households only use mobile data for example, there's no way to flag that really. They can't possibly know it isn't a household member.

[Niamh.]

To be fair, if everyone did that it would make the effective price of the standard package £2/month per household... there's no way that would be sustainable :joker:



You're allowed to use it out of the house though, that's sort of part of the appeal. They could perhaps flag if people are frequently using it from two different IP locations and it's obviously two different households. However if the non-main-households only use mobile data for example, there's no way to flag that really. They can't possibly know it isn't a household member.

My Step son uses it on his phone anyway because he doesn't even have a TV so we'll be grand :fan:

[user104658]

How would they clamp down on it though? If you're paying for a certain amount of screens why can't that many people use it? What even are the rules anyway? Are you all supposed to be living in the same house or is it limited to family members? Like my step son uses ours but he doesn't live with us, is that allowed or not? I'm paying extra so he can use it though so what's the point in clamping down? If they stopped him from using it, he wouldn't pay for it himself and I'd pay for a smaller package (or just leave) so they'd be shooting themselves in the foot anyway

Technically it's supposed to just be for people living at the registered address. That doesn't mean it can only be used at that address, just that it's supposed to be user's permanent residence.

From a quick google, the "clamping down" idea seems to be that they might introduce 2-factor authentication, i.e. you'll have to verify a code or whatever sent by email/text when you log in. To be honest I don't see that being a huge deterrent. So long as people don't log out it'll still work just the same. They're not going to start requiring authentication every time you boot up Netflix... it would be too inconvenient and people would get fed up with it. It'll at most be on log in and maybe a random "check" every few months.

[Niamh.]

To be fair, if everyone did that it would make the effective price of the standard package £2/month per household... there's no way that would be sustainable :joker:



You're allowed to use it out of the house though, that's sort of part of the appeal. They could perhaps flag if people are frequently using it from two different IP locations and it's obviously two different households. However if the non-main-households only use mobile data for example, there's no way to flag that really. They can't possibly know it isn't a household member.

But 5 people are allowed watch at one time, so it is effectively that price per person anyway

[bots]

i think there will be cases where 10 or more people are streaming the same account simultaneously from different ip addresses. Thats who they are after. By stopping vpn masking they can identify that type of abuse much easier. I dont really think they are after family members

[user104658]

My Step son uses it on his phone anyway because he doesn't even have a TV so we'll be grand :fan:

It's more the connection than the device, if his phone is connected to wireless they can still see a rough location of where the device is (not exact, but down to the town/city). On mobile data (4g/5g) it usually just shows the network like EE/Three or whatever so they have no idea where in the UK you are.

[user104658]

i think there will be cases where 10 or more people are streaming the same account simultaneously from different ip addresses. Thats who they are after. By stopping vpn masking they can identify that type of abuse much easier. I dont really think they are after family members

The biggest package is actually 4 "screens" at once so you couldn't have 10... but I agree it's more entire households sharing they're looking for rather than a family sharing with a grown-up kid or being logged in at Gran's house. You could in those cases have 4 entire families using the same Netflix account, so long as it was only logged in on the main telly.

[Niamh.]

It's more the connection than the device, if his phone is connected to wireless they can still see a rough location of where the device is (not exact, but down to the town/city). On mobile data (4g/5g) it usually just shows the network like EE/Three or whatever so they have no idea where in the UK you are.

It would probably just say we're both in Cork anyway (if that, sometimes I look up Netflix at work and when I go into the streamed from section on Netflix it says I was streaming from a different county altogether)

[Niamh.]

The biggest package is actually 4 "screens" at once so you couldn't have 10... but I agree it's more entire households sharing they're looking for rather than a family sharing with a grown-up kid or being logged in at Gran's house. You could in those cases have 4 entire families using the same Netflix account, so long as it was only logged in on the main telly.

Yes you're right, it's 4 screens, I thought it was 5

[user104658]

It would probably just say we're both in Cork anyway (if that, sometimes I look up Netflix at work and when I go into the streamed from section on Netflix it says I was streaming from a different county altogether)

I doubt they're ever going to properly crack down on it to be fair, you might just get an occasional call from him asking for the two-factor verification code. They'll be soft measures whatever they are. It's not illegal, just a T&C's violation, and it's a rolling monthly sub :shrug:. Literally nothing they can do really. Cancelling your account means nothing on a rolling subscription, you can just sign up again the following month :joker:.

[Niamh.]

I doubt they're ever going to properly crack down on it to be fair, you might just get an occasional call from him asking for the two-factor verification code. They'll be soft measures whatever they are. It's not illegal, just a T&C's violation, and it's a rolling monthly sub :shrug:. Literally nothing they can do really. Cancelling your account means nothing on a rolling subscription, you can just sign up again the following month :joker:.

Yeah true plus like I said they would only lose money that they're getting anyway if they stopped him using it because i'd probably change to cheaper package and he wouldn't set up his own account :laugh:

[user104658]

Yeah true plus like I said they would only lose money that they're getting anyway if they stopped him using it because i'd probably change to cheaper package and he wouldn't set up his own account :laugh:

The cheapest option for one person would be fine for individuals I think, IF they just made it HD?? It's standard definition which in this day and age... well... just daft really. Just... why. They could at least offer 720p or something. No one is realistically going to go for anything lower than the "medium" package surely.

I also didn't realise that on medium you can only stream to two devices at once, I thought the only difference was the 4k. Not that it's an issue anyway, as the only people ever using it are me + my eldest or me & my wife on the main telly + my eldest, so there's never going to be more than two on at once, but still... 2 screens for £11 a month is crap...

It's not even that paying for 4k was an issue at all, this is purely on principle :joker:.

[Niamh.]

The cheapest option for one person would be fine for individuals I think, IF they just made it HD?? It's standard definition which in this day and age... well... just daft really. Just... why. They could at least offer 720p or something. No one is realistically going to go for anything lower than the "medium" package surely.

I also didn't realise that on medium you can only stream to two devices at once, I thought the only difference was the 4k. Not that it's an issue anyway, as the only people ever using it are me + my eldest or me & my wife on the main telly + my eldest, so there's never going to be more than two on at once, but still... 2 screens for £11 a month is crap...

It's not even that paying for 4k was an issue at all, this is purely on principle :joker:.

It was the amount of screens that made us go for the best package rather than the quality but yeah I don't understand why if you're a single person for example you'd have to pay €20 a month to get the best quality instead of being able to pay for 1 screen but with the best quality

[user104658]

Speaking of the cost of subs by the way, if anyone has a YouTube Premium sub, I've basically had it half price for the last 6 months with this one NEAT TRICK...

... ... so basically, they keep giving me free trials :think:. I sub for a month but don't set it to renew, it expires, they give me a free trial... I use that then sub at the end of it... let it expire... they offer me another free month. It seems this may never end? :joker:.

Also just found out you can get 6 months of Disney+ with 800 (£8 worth) of clubcard points which is practically free so I'm doing that once I have 800 :shrug:. I rack up a frightening number of clubcard points. 2 points for every £1 on fuel at Tesco pumps and I'm currently filling up £90 a week :facepalm:. Still... free Disney+ woooo! :umm2:

[Kizzy]

Netflix is struggling... I don't know if others have pulled out of Russia, but then they might not have as big a presence to begin with. Also none have hiked prices as significantly as Netflix. the Disney+ sub went up quite a bit but it's still not hugely expensive at £8, it has a tonne of content it didn't have at the start, and it was only cheaper before as a sort of "introductory price" while it got off the ground. Netflix "full" (4k) prices are a whopping £16 a month in comparison. Amazon Prime is also £8 a month, and that's for Prime Delivery as well. Even the cheaper non-4k Netflix package is £11.

Password sharing I think is a bit of a red herring really - there's no guarantee that people who are sharing passwords around would actually be paying for it otherwise... you can't project that into any actual figures. A lot of students probably do it for example - continue using the family's Netflix account after moving away from home... which in all honesty I think should be allowed (so long as they're in uni halls etc.)... but it might be more sensible to introduce a "student offer" of say £4.99 a month. Amazon has this for example.

Compared to sky it's cheap, and don't they create their own content too now? That's got to be worth it. My kids share a password he just buys her a coffee every now and again.

[MTVN]

I pay for the basic package and it does me just fine at £5.99 a month (going up to £6.99) :smug:

Have never felt tempted by any of the higher priced packages. Paying like 75% more just for HD seems crazy

[Niamh.]

I pay for the basic package and it does me just fine at £5.99 a month (going up to £6.99) :smug:

Have never felt tempted by any of the higher priced packages. Paying like 75% more just for HD seems crazy

I definitely don't pay for it for the HD, I pay for it for the screens

[MTVN]

I definitely don't pay for it for the HD, I pay for it for the screens

Yeah can understand that, was mainly TS' disbelief here I was replying to :joker:

The cheapest option for one person would be fine for individuals I think, IF they just made it HD?? It's standard definition which in this day and age... well... just daft really. Just... why. They could at least offer 720p or something. No one is realistically going to go for anything lower than the "medium" package surely.

[bots]

i have a 4k tv and dolby atmos so i go for the top option or it's not taking advantage of my kit at home. The other streaming services don't make that distinction though apart from sky, where you have to take out their top sky q box plus other stuff and i draw the line at that :laugh:

[James]

I have a bad habit of signing up for services, or getting them on a trial, and then not using and forgetting to cancel them.

[bots]

i pay annual subs where i can. It works out a lot cheaper. Netflix would gain a bit of loyalty if they had an annual cheaper sub or at least rewarded those who have been with them for a while somehow. To me that is the way forward. Make people feel they are valued

[user104658]

I pay for the basic package and it does me just fine at £5.99 a month (going up to £6.99) :smug:

Have never felt tempted by any of the higher priced packages. Paying like 75% more just for HD seems crazy

Suppose it depends on your telly... anything under 720p on a 55"+ TV isn't just going to look "not as good" it'll look full-on blurry. I guess some people don't mind that :shrug:. If you're only watching on a little laptop screen or on a phone/tablet it's probably fine I guess.

Also the "middle" package is £4 more than the cheapest which makes it 57% not 75% more expensive :hee:

[smudgie]

Am I the only one on here that has no subscriptions.
So much on the box that I don’t have enough hours to watch them all as it is.

[bots]

russian people that i have spoken to are still happily accessing netflix, so whatever restrictions they put in place, they are not very effective :laugh:

[user104658]

Am I the only one on here that has no subscriptions.

So much on the box that I don’t have enough hours to watch them all as it is.I don't have broadcast telly. Stoneage stuff.

[Kizzy]

I don't have broadcast telly. Stoneage stuff.

Bit silly to say people are in the stoneage just because they have other things to do with their time or spend money on .. :/

[Crimson Dynamo]

Imagine NOT watching it in HD?

:worry:

[user104658]

Bit silly to say people are in the stoneage just because they have other things to do with their time or spend money on .. :/All three of the big streaming services is cheaper than a TV license + something like Sky, and on-demand services are far better than scheduled television if you have time constraints. The only excuse is base luddism.

[bots]

some people still prefer to watch scheduled television and there is nothing wrong with that

[Niamh.]

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[Nicky91]

good hopefully russian sympathizers Netflix goes bankrupt very soon :fc:

[user104658]

https://i.imgur.com/BQTOC4l.jpeg

:hehe:

[user104658]

some people still prefer to watch scheduled television and there is nothing wrong with that

Yes there is :fist:

[Swan]

I'll be re-subbing for Stranger Things, then i'll be gone again. I prefer Prime anyway, and being on twitch so much, it pays for my sub to my friend (who i'd sub to regardless), so in theory Prime is only costing me £4 a month, and the free delivery on items brought from Amazon has been well worth it.

[bots]

prime is apparently getting a price bump too, disney+ got a price hike, so it's going to happen to them all

[Nicky91]

i from now on no longer have netflix


just Disney+, HBO Max and Viaplay for me now

[Beso]

How do you go about cancelling now TV?

[arista]

There is another one Starting in June
£70 a month.


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