Misogyny in UK parliament

[bots]

Boris Johnson has contacted Labour's deputy leader Angela Rayner to make clear that he views claims about her in a Sunday newspaper misogynistic.

Politicians have condemned the suggestion Ms Rayner tries to distract the prime minister in the Commons by crossing and uncrossing her legs.

The Mail on Sunday said some unnamed Conservative MPs had made the claim.

Ms Rayner dismissed this as a "perverted smear" that showed women in politics faced misogyny every day.

On Sunday Mr Johnson criticised the comments tweeting: "As much as I disagree with Angela Rayner on almost every political issue, I respect her as a parliamentarian and deplore the misogyny directed at her anonymously today."

A Downing Street source confirmed to the BBC that the prime minister had contacted Ms Rayner privately by text message to reiterate what he said in his public tweet.

BBC chief political correspondent Adam Fleming said that the texts between the two were in their "inimitable" styles, according to a source.

Shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves told BBC Breakfast that "instead of just tweeting, the prime minister needs to get his house in order" and ensure that his MPs did not think they had "carte blanche to be saying this sort of thing".

"This is endemic," she added, saying that she did not think there was a single female MP or staff member in the House of Commons who did not have their own stories of misogyny or sexism.

She told BBC Radio 4's Today programme the claims were "absolutely outrageous", and said it was indicative of a wider issue in Parliament.

"To be honest I am sick and tired of the way that female MPs and women are treated in Parliament and if this story and this outrageous slur on Angela gets things changed that would be a good thing."

Downing Street will not be asking for an inquiry into who made the comments to the Mail on Sunday, with a source saying this was because such inquiries rarely found the person in question.

A raft of politicians, including female Tory MPs, have also spoken out in support of Ms Rayner.

Conservative Caroline Nokes said too many female MPs of all parties had been "on receiving end of vile articles", while former minister Andrea Leadsom tweeted: "Really sorry Angela. Totally unacceptable comments and reporting."

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said: "The sexism and misogyny peddled by the Tories is a disgraceful new low from a party mired in scandal and chaos."

The article - which has now been changed to headline on deputy Labour leader Ms Rayner's response on Twitter - quoted unnamed Conservative MPs claiming she would cross and uncross her legs when opposite the PM at the dispatch box in the Commons to distract him.

A host of MPs have since come out to not only condemn the suggestion made but also the tone of the newspaper's reporting.

And Ms Nokes - who chairs the women and equalities committee - confirmed on Twitter that she had contacted the Commons Speaker, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, to ask if the political editor who wrote the piece should have a press pass for Parliament.

The newspaper article said: "Tory MPs have mischievously suggested that Ms Rayner likes to distract the PM when he is in the dispatch box by deploying a fully-clothed Parliamentary equivalent of Sharon Stone's infamous scene in the 1992 film Basic Instinct."

The paper added: "It is also suggested she employs the tactic when sitting next to Sir Keir when he faces Mr Johnson at PMQs".

The piece quotes one MP as saying: "She knows she can't compete with Boris's Oxford Union debating training, but she has other skills which he lacks.

"She has admitted as much when enjoying drinks with us on the [Commons] terrace."

The article also described the Labour MP's background as "a grandmother who left school at 16 while pregnant and with no qualifications before becoming a care worker".

Ms Rayner condemned the article in a thread on Twitter as "gutter journalism", and accused the sources of "spreading desperate, perverted smears in their doomed attempts to save [Mr Johnson's] skin" amid the partygate scandal.

She added: "I won't be letting their vile lies deter me. Their attempts to harass and intimidate me will fail.

"I hope this experience doesn't put off a single person like me, with a background like mine from aspiring to participate in public life. That would break my heart."

The report led to a huge backlash on social media and support for the Labour deputy leader.

Scotland's First Minister and SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon tweeted: "Solidarity from across the political divide to Angela Rayner on this.

"It's a reminder of the deep misogyny women face every day."

Liberal Democrat MP Munira Wilson described it as a "disgraceful story", saying: "I can't even believe it made it into print."

Labour's shadow leader of the Commons, Thangam Debbonaire, added: "This all shows we need more women in politics and that when we work together, we are mighty and fearsome and some pathetic men feel threatened by it."

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unbelievable in this day and age that a newspaper would print such trash

[Cherie]

yes its really low

[Oliver_W]

Just desperate.

If Johnson really had dominated her in the debates, they'd lead with that instead of talking about her legs.

[Beso]

It's certainly causing a stir.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

Misogyny in politics??? I refuse to believe it!

[bots]

yeah criticise the apology rather than the misogynistic newspaper. Way to go

[Niamh.]

Gross

[arista]

It's certainly causing a stir.


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[arista]

Starmer started
on the 10AM first story
This Morning, ITV1HD.

Lapping up all this.

[Kizzy]

So who actually said that? The Mail needs to explain who is saying these things.

[arista]

So who actually said that? The Mail needs to explain who is saying these things.


One Conservative MP.



The Speaker of the House
will now have a meeting with the newspaper
to find out more.

[michael21]

Boris want her to party

[Alf]

yes its really lowWhat is, her skirt?

[Beso]

Seemingly she has said it herself.

[bots]

interesting this thread has brought out the forum misogynists

[Niamh.]

Seemingly she has said it herself.

According to who?

[Alf]

interesting this thread has brought out the forum misogynistsStop posting then and it wouldn't.

[Strictly Jake]

Flippin typical woman's point of view...

[Alf]

I think it's probably true that she does a Sharon Stone to put off Boris and that she admitted as much during drinks on the common terrace. Rumours like that don't just come from nowhere, there's always something in them.

[Beso]

According to who?

The news channel I was watching when this story broke over the weekend.

[Beso]

I think it's probably true that she does a Sharon Stone to put off Boris and that she admitted as much during drinks on the common terrace. Rumours like that don't just come from nowhere, there's always something in them.

Yep...this is what was said during the first breaking of this story

[Niamh.]

The news channel I was watching when this story broke over the weekend.

Yes but where did they get that from, do they have footage of her saying it herself or a tweet or an email of her saying it? The tweet she posted earlier about it suggests that she did not say anything of the sort

[Niamh.]

Yep...this is what was said during the first breaking of this story

of course it was, because people are sexist *****

[Alf]

of course it was, because people are sexist *****People are also liars, especially MPs.They always deny scandals.

[Beso]

Yes but where did they get that from, do they have footage of her saying it herself or a tweet or an email of her saying it? The tweet she posted earlier about it suggests that she did not say anything of the sort

Dont we always take the word of an insider when it. comes to our mps...or is it just when its boris.

[Niamh.]

Dont we always take the word of an insider when it. comes to our mps...or is it just when its boris.

I don't know, I don't comment a lot of your politics tbh :shrug:

[Beso]

of course it was, because people are sexist *****

I think it was a female news reader tbf.

[Alf]

Poor Boris

Misandry is toxically out of control in Parliament.

[arista]

Poor Boris

Misandry is toxically out of control in Parliament.


One MP
claimed it.


Its rubbish

[Zizu]

I think it's probably true that she does a Sharon Stone to put off Boris and that she admitted as much during drinks on the common terrace. Rumours like that don't just come from nowhere, there's always something in them.


It’s not as though she’s always showing her legs off ..
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[bots]

should we import the afghan latest fashion for the ladies in the UK?

[Beso]

[QUOTE=bitontheslide;11157610]should we import the afghan latest fashion for the ladies in the UK?[/QUOTE


No, but it also shouldnt lead to people being awarded loftier positions than they deserve just cause they are flashing some flange every time the cross their legs.

[bots]

angela was appointed to her position after a democratic vote of the entire labour party. Like her or loathe her, she earned the right to her position within the party

[Beso]

angela was appointed to her position after a democratic vote of the entire labour party. Like her or loathe her, she earned the right to her position within the party

Most of them wanted her to defect across the chamber though.

[arista]

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1518624640557629443

[Beso]

What about the men standing for erection?

[Zizu]

What about the men standing for erection?


They WOOD not mind too much


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[Kizzy]

It’s not as though she’s always showing her legs off ..
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What is this meant to prove?.... That Angela actually has legs? I don't understand.
That because she has worn shorts a couple of times it naturally follows she uses her legs to distract men?

:/

[Beso]

What is this meant to prove?.... That Angela actually has legs? I don't understand.
That because she has worn shorts a couple of times it naturally follows she uses her legs to distract men?

:/

There should be a dress code to follow for these muppets..I could put up with it if it was dress down friday, but PMQs are not on a friday, so she needs to have a word with herself.

[Oliver_W]

For argument sake let's suppose she was Sharon Stoneing as a distraction technique ... So what? Where are the headlines and fuss about BoJo using elitist debating techniques which are taught at Oxbridge, and not accessible to everyone?

(I don't think he's a good debater, just playing devils advocate)

[Beso]

For argument sake let's suppose she was Sharon Stoneing as a distraction technique ... So what? Where are the headlines and fuss about BoJo using elitist debating techniques which are taught at Oxbridge, and not accessible to everyone?

(I don't think he's a good debater, just playing devils advocate)

You can sometimes also see the shape of his cock and balls pressing against his smart trousers.

[arista]

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[arista]

The Daily Mail was to go in
and talk with the Speaker of the House, tomorrow.

But since he (the speaker) has been publicly talking about this
they will not get, fair hearing.

The Speaker can revoke the Daily Mail Political reporters
card to enter, the house
if he chooses to.


Ref : BBCnewsHD

[bots]

it's an interesting one. If it is considered a matter of press freedom, the paper has a valid point

[Cherie]

oh dear, that excerpt from the podcast doesn't sound great

[Kizzy]

it's an interesting one. If it is considered a matter of press freedom, the paper has a valid point

Not really I'd say the comments are slanderous. They may be just forcing her to sue? I think she should.

[Crimson Dynamo]

who the hell does that speaker think he is?

[arista]

who the hell does that speaker think he is?


The Labour Party
pushed him

[Kizzy]

As if they're trying to make it a freedom of speech issue... the name of whoever the source was will come out eventually no doubt.

[Livia]

Women never use their sexuality to distract... never ever... not even once.

[arista]

Chief whip looking into allegation Tory MP
watched pornography on phone in Commons

https://news.sky.com/story/chief-whip-looking-into-allegation-tory-mp-watched-porn-on-phone-in-commons-12600045


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61245040


Name The Dirty Bugger

[arista]

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1519276787833921538

[Cherie]

https://twitter.com/BethRigby/status/1519276787833921538

needs sacking that is what would happen to Joe Bloggs if he was found watching porn at work

[arista]

needs sacking that is what would happen to Joe Bloggs if he was found watching porn at work


Yes Labour said the MP would be sacked

[Zizu]

Yes Labour said the MP would be sacked


Clearly not acceptable


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

The Press have the MP's name.

It just a matter of time the Dirty Bugger
is Named.

[bots]

a welsh mp has now complained that she was spoken to inappropriately by a labour shadow cabinet member :skull:

[MTVN]

It is apparently a government minister

Get your bets in people

[Cherie]

Gove

[bots]

JRM :laugh:

[MTVN]

I'm gonna say Kit Malthouse

[bots]

my second choice would be Ben Wallace

[Zizu]

I watched a chat show on the new TalkTV channel Sky 526 last night .

A few people mentioned that if you can find yourself on strange webpages by depending on the people you follow on Twitter plus you get random pop ups on apparently .

Don’t know if that’s the case but I thought I’d mention it - maybe someone can add some meat to the bones of that conversation.


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[Cherie]

I watched a chat show on the new TalkTV channel Sky 526 last night .

A few people mentioned that if you can find yourself on strange webpages by depending on the people you follow on Twitter plus you get random pop ups on apparently .

Don’t know if that’s the case but I thought I’d mention it - maybe someone can add some meat to the bones of that conversation.


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it happened more than once, plus why is he on his phone at all? are you on your phone at work?

[bots]

thats just bollocks excuses Zizu

i didn't mean to look at dancing nuns weekly. It also reminds me of Pete Townsend when he got caught looking at child porn and said he was investigating it

[Cherie]

plus if that was the case Zizu, surely you would turn your phone off and apologise to those around you particularly if they were female? wouldn't that be normal behaviour?

[MTVN]

my second choice would be Ben Wallace

That would be surprising after the Conservatives wheeled him out this morning to do the interviews about it

Could be a diversion tactic I suppose :think:

[bots]

That would be surprising after the Conservatives wheeled him out this morning to do the interviews about it

Could be a diversion tactic I suppose :think:

they had one of the main party goers in charge of investigating the parties so i think it's quite possible :laugh:

[MTVN]

it happened more than once, plus why is he on his phone at all? are you on your phone at work?

They are all on their phones in there tbf

Have to say I don't think I've ever had a porn pop up on my phone though, certainly not twice! Whoever it is should probably get some help for addiction

[bots]

pop ups are very much a thing of the past. You would have to be looking at porn for other porn to appear

[Zizu]

it happened more than once, plus why is he on his phone at all? are you on your phone at work?


I thought it was just once ...

We aren’t allowed to use our phones in school apart from at lunchtime in the
staffroom


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[Zizu]

they had one of the main party goers in charge of investigating the parties so i think it's quite possible :laugh:


Talking about parties...why on earth do they have eight bars in Parliament at Westminster ?

Why even have one bar !?


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[Cherie]

Has the name leaked yet?

[arista]

Has the name leaked yet?


No.
Kicked into the long grass....................

The Online Paper


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[arista]

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[bots]

how many times now have mps been found to be behaving inappropriately, whether it be expenses, flouting rules, corruption or whatever. They don't do anything until they are caught. The good standing and morality of those that are elected to represent us is just not up to scratch

[Kizzy]

It is apparently a government minister

Get your bets in people

What a surprise .. :idc:

[Kizzy]

No.
Kicked into the long grass....................

The Online Paper


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They would like to.... can't see this going away though.

[Oliver_W]

As someone who basically doesn't trust or like any politician, I wouldn't actually be surprised if Rayner did use that mildly crude distraction technique - but I also don't care, and the witch-hunt is totally unnecessary.

The watching of porn in parliament and especially the sexual harassment are actual problems.

[Zizu]

As someone who basically trusts or likes virtually any politician, I wouldn't actually be surprised if Rayner did use that mildly crude distraction technique - but I also don't care, and the witch-hunt is totally unnecessary.

The watching of porn in parliament and especially the sexual harassment are actual problems.


How odd ..

I’m basically the opposite where I dislike and distrust all politicians


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[Oliver_W]

How odd ..

I’m basically the opposite where I dislike and distrust all politicians


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Oops :joker: fixing now

[Cherie]

something is up, it went from that they knew the name and Theo Usherwood handing the name to James O Brien on air to LBC reporting that the women had not named the man ....mmmm

[arista]

They would like to.... can't see this going away though.



Yes Many Press already have the Conservative MP
Dirty buggers name.


Maybe they want to get the Local Elections
5th of May Thursday,
next week , done first?

[Zizu]

something is up, it went from that they knew the name and Theo Usherwood handing the name to James O Brien on air to LBC reporting that the women had not named the man ....mmmm


Whatever is happening I’m sure Starmer will demand that Boris resigns again


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[bots]

it will be the local elections, none of the media will want to break the law

[arista]

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[Zizu]

Boris Johnson has contacted Labour's deputy leader Angela Rayner to make clear that he views claims about her in a Sunday newspaper misogynistic.

Politicians have condemned the suggestion Ms Rayner tries to distract the prime minister in the Commons by crossing and uncrossing her legs.

The Mail on Sunday said some unnamed Conservative MPs had made the claim.

Ms Rayner dismissed this as a "perverted smear" that showed women in politics faced misogyny every day.

On Sunday Mr Johnson criticised the comments tweeting: "As much as I disagree with Angela Rayner on almost every political issue, I respect her as a parliamentarian and deplore the misogyny directed at her anonymously today."

A Downing Street source confirmed to the BBC that the prime minister had contacted Ms Rayner privately by text message to reiterate what he said in his public tweet.

BBC chief political correspondent Adam Fleming said that the texts between the two were in their "inimitable" styles, according to a source.

Shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves told BBC Breakfast that "instead of just tweeting, the prime minister needs to get his house in order" and ensure that his MPs did not think they had "carte blanche to be saying this sort of thing".

"This is endemic," she added, saying that she did not think there was a single female MP or staff member in the House of Commons who did not have their own stories of misogyny or sexism.

She told BBC Radio 4's Today programme the claims were "absolutely outrageous", and said it was indicative of a wider issue in Parliament.

"To be honest I am sick and tired of the way that female MPs and women are treated in Parliament and if this story and this outrageous slur on Angela gets things changed that would be a good thing."

Downing Street will not be asking for an inquiry into who made the comments to the Mail on Sunday, with a source saying this was because such inquiries rarely found the person in question.

A raft of politicians, including female Tory MPs, have also spoken out in support of Ms Rayner.

Conservative Caroline Nokes said too many female MPs of all parties had been "on receiving end of vile articles", while former minister Andrea Leadsom tweeted: "Really sorry Angela. Totally unacceptable comments and reporting."

Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said: "The sexism and misogyny peddled by the Tories is a disgraceful new low from a party mired in scandal and chaos."

The article - which has now been changed to headline on deputy Labour leader Ms Rayner's response on Twitter - quoted unnamed Conservative MPs claiming she would cross and uncross her legs when opposite the PM at the dispatch box in the Commons to distract him.

A host of MPs have since come out to not only condemn the suggestion made but also the tone of the newspaper's reporting.

And Ms Nokes - who chairs the women and equalities committee - confirmed on Twitter that she had contacted the Commons Speaker, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, to ask if the political editor who wrote the piece should have a press pass for Parliament.

The newspaper article said: "Tory MPs have mischievously suggested that Ms Rayner likes to distract the PM when he is in the dispatch box by deploying a fully-clothed Parliamentary equivalent of Sharon Stone's infamous scene in the 1992 film Basic Instinct."

The paper added: "It is also suggested she employs the tactic when sitting next to Sir Keir when he faces Mr Johnson at PMQs".

The piece quotes one MP as saying: "She knows she can't compete with Boris's Oxford Union debating training, but she has other skills which he lacks.

"She has admitted as much when enjoying drinks with us on the [Commons] terrace."

The article also described the Labour MP's background as "a grandmother who left school at 16 while pregnant and with no qualifications before becoming a care worker".

Ms Rayner condemned the article in a thread on Twitter as "gutter journalism", and accused the sources of "spreading desperate, perverted smears in their doomed attempts to save [Mr Johnson's] skin" amid the partygate scandal.

She added: "I won't be letting their vile lies deter me. Their attempts to harass and intimidate me will fail.

"I hope this experience doesn't put off a single person like me, with a background like mine from aspiring to participate in public life. That would break my heart."

The report led to a huge backlash on social media and support for the Labour deputy leader.

Scotland's First Minister and SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon tweeted: "Solidarity from across the political divide to Angela Rayner on this.

"It's a reminder of the deep misogyny women face every day."

Liberal Democrat MP Munira Wilson described it as a "disgraceful story", saying: "I can't even believe it made it into print."

Labour's shadow leader of the Commons, Thangam Debbonaire, added: "This all shows we need more women in politics and that when we work together, we are mighty and fearsome and some pathetic men feel threatened by it."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61213711

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unbelievable in this day and age that a newspaper would print such trash


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[bots]

thats missing the point zizu, even if she did make such a comment, that is self mockery, it doesn't make it right for someone else to say it. Think of the n word and who is allowed to say it and who is not

[Zizu]

thats missing the point zizu, even if she did make such a comment, that is self mockery, it doesn't make it right for someone else to say it. Think of the n word and who is allowed to say it and who is not



I can obviously see your point but ...

How do we know for sure that it was self mockery... it could well have been a deliberate ploy for all we know .. she is well aware of Boris’s liking of the female form and after all is said and done ... she’s hardly been a shrinking violet over the years.

Which is worse .. some reporter commenting on it or actually doing it ?

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[bots]

my mp was caught with his trousers down and his willy out in his office at the HoC and, years later, he is still my MP

[arista]

A Scottish MP
warned who not to get close to.

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[Crimson Dynamo]

The person who said this was in fact Rayner herself :facepalm:

According to one MP who was part of the group, ‘she said, “I like to do my Sharon Stone trick. I cross and uncross my legs and give him a flash of my ginger gash [a vulgar and offensive colloquialism].’ A second MP, who was with the group, also recalled hearing her use the phrase.

As Rayner was making the joke, another MP joined the group. She told me: ‘I didn’t hear the whole thing, but I remember hearing her say those words.’ A fourth MP said: ‘Angela was telling us how she distracts Boris.’ They too confirmed the use of the vulgar colloquialism. So four MPs all heard Rayner use exactly the same words.

In response to what everyone recognised was a racy but light-hearted aside, Rayner’s colleagues laughed, and carried on smoking. Then they all went their way.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10771103/DAN-HODGES-truth-story-Angela-Rayner-branded-smear-one-told-it.html

[Cherie]

my mp was caught with his trousers down and his willy out in his office at the HoC and, years later, he is still my MP

:bored:

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/mirrorpolitics/status/1520799053596045312?s=21