USA : Crazy Man on stage, attacks Dave Chappelle

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/05/04/08/57385315-10781055-image-m-2_1651648196727.jpg


Get better security Dave

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10781055/Dave-Chappelle-attacked-stage-LA.html

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/celebrities/18454634/dave-chappelle-attacked-man-stage-netflix-is-joke/

Brief Video shows the speed he ran on the stage
https://twitter.com/Hoodville_/status/1521736965779038208


[Dave Chappelle is attacked on stage in LA after woke
activists tried to cancel him for jokes about trans people
last night attacked on stage while filming
a Netflix special in Los Angeles.]

[Jamie Foxx, who was watching the show from
the wings of the Hollywood Bowl,
rushed on stage along with security to detain the attacker.
Video from the Netflix Is A Joke event shows a man
charging on to the stage and tackling the comedian
before he is dragged off by security.]


[Journalist Sharon Carpenter also posted
a tweet about the incident,
claiming Chappelle was 'assaulted' on the stage
when the man 'ran on-stage and lunged at him
knocking him to the floor'.

"Security & his entourage then cornered
the man as Dave joked about how him
getting 'stomped' backstage [sic]," she added.

The comedian stayed on stage in spite of the
disruption, and after recovering his composure
he appeared to joke: "It was a trans man."
The comment comes in reference to ongoing
controversy about some of Chappelle's jokes which
have led to him being accused of transphobia.]
(From Unilad site)

[user104658]

Chris Rock, who performed later in the Netflix is a Joke event, then came on stage and joked: 'Was that Will Smith?'

:joker:

[Cherie]

:joker:

:joker:

[GoldHeart]

Why was this crazy person at a Dave Chapelle show in the first place if they hate his jokes ??!? . Chapelle has been around for so long people should know by now what his material is like, YouTube is their friend if they want a quick reminder.

Plus why was it so easy for this nutter to jump on stage to attack ?!? . That's worrying.

[Oliver_W]

Wait, the Jamie Foxx?!

[Niamh.]

Wait, the Jamie Foxx?!He's like the anti-Will [emoji28]

[arista]

Why was this crazy person at a Dave Chapelle show in the first place if they hate his jokes ??!? . Chapelle has been around for so long people should know by now what his material is like, YouTube is their friend if they want a quick reminder.

Plus why was it so easy for this nutter to jump on stage to attack ?!? . That's worrying.


And he had a Gun on him.

He Bought a ticket to that Netflix Recorded show
as he knew, he could run fast into Dave.


Security can be Sloppy

[Niamh.]

And he had a Gun on him.

He Bought a ticket to that Netflix Recorded show
as he knew, he could run fast into Dave.


Security can be SloppyA gun? Oh wow, that makes it pretty serious and scary

[arista]

A gun? Oh wow, that makes it pretty serious and scary


They searched him after the Security got him.


He ran so fast
Dave hit the Floor.



I assume that will not be in the Netflix show

[Crimson Dynamo]

disgusting people who think they are so right they can kill people

ie terrorists

[GoldHeart]

And he had a Gun on him.

He Bought a ticket to that Netflix Recorded show
as he knew, he could run fast into Dave.


Security can be Sloppy

What the hell !
How did he sneak a gun in ,and where was the high security.

He bought a ticket to the show just to attack Chapelle, what a complete psychopath. Let's see if any action is taken against this unhinged individual .

[arista]

UPDATE: Replica Gun

[A man who police said was armed with
a replica gun rushed a stage and tackled
comedian Dave Chappelle as he was performing
at a Los Angeles comedy festival late Tuesday.]

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/national-international/comedian-dave-chappelle-tackled-on-stage-during-la-festival-show/2711077/

[user104658]

Why was this crazy person at a Dave Chapelle show in the first place if they hate his jokes ??!?

I imagine he went specifically to do this... rather than to watch the show. Sounds like it was obviously planned rather than a spontaneous angry reaction.

You do have to wonder if the Will Smith Oscars nonsense has sparked the idea in people that if they don't like an act, they can simply get on stage and make their feelings known...

I suspect we'll start seeing increased stage security at things like this. Which is a shame, really, as it removes some of the audience connection that is really the whole point of going to see something live.

[GoldHeart]

Yeah I wondered if the Will Smith incident has triggered this,but then saying that .. maybe this nutter would have still done this.

If issues like this become a reoccurring thing,then it will probably get to the stage where audience members are limited to events , and theyll probably get prolonged security searches. Or maybe we'll go back to virtual audiences for shows.

[Beso]

A replica cock and Weston?

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

Yeah I wondered if the Will Smith incident has triggered this,but then saying that .. maybe this nutter would have still done this.

If issues like this become a reoccurring thing,then it will probably get to the stage where audience members are limited to events , and theyll probably get prolonged security searches. Or maybe we'll go back to virtual audiences for shows.

I can't see them removing audiences, but it might mean a "dividing area" between the stage and the crowd with security so that there's less chance of people getting near the stage. It's like that already at a lot of music events but isn't great for comedy shows... the best shows have plenty of audience interaction. Maybe a sort of compromise where the front few rows are subject to more strict vetting and security searches before entering could work.

[user104658]

Ol' Chappelle's pretty steady on his feet, he got rugby tackled and barely lost his balance.

[bots]

I think this will become common now until they tighten up security

[user104658]

I think this will become common now until they tighten up security

Hmm, even if this wasn't prompted by Smith, two incidents so close together definitely have a chance of starting a little "trend". These sorts of things obviously aren't unheard of but not usually with such high-profile examples.

Comedians being unable to perform without a risk of being physically attacked because some people didn't like something they said is really a pretty bleak future.

DOZoYlOBXhw

[bots]

These people feel enabled by their bubbles on twitter and if someone like will smith can get away with it without any real issue, I fear a comedians life will never be the same again. I’m surprised they didn’t offer him complementary popcorn and sit him in a vip seat

[user104658]

These people feel enabled by their bubbles on twitter and if someone like will smith can get away with it without any real issue, I fear a comedians life will never be the same again. I’m surprised they didn’t offer him complementary popcorn and sit him in a vip seat

Not just comedians in the long run I guess, any celebrity who has "dun wrong!" is likely to be more at risk if launching actual physical attacks becomes a regular occurrence... and tbh for one group or another, that's pretty much all celebrities.

[Niamh.]

Not just comedians in the long run I guess, any celebrity who has "dun wrong!" is likely to be more at risk if launching actual physical attacks becomes a regular occurrence... and tbh for one group or another, that's pretty much all celebrities.

This is what happens when words are declared "literal violence" I guess....

[bots]

This is what happens when words are declared "literal violence" I guess....

The difference between literal violence and literally violence :laugh:

[Liam-]

Any evidence the person actually had anything to do with trans? Aside from a flippant joke made by someone who makes flippant jokes about trans people?

[Swan]

Hmm, even if this wasn't prompted by Smith, two incidents so close together definitely have a chance of starting a little "trend". These sorts of things obviously aren't unheard of but not usually with such high-profile examples.

Comedians being unable to perform without a risk of being physically attacked because some people didn't like something they said is really a pretty bleak future.

DOZoYlOBXhw

Just popping in to say, i watched that episode of South Park a few months back, absolutely spot on with Jimmy/Stand up/Talk show host not being able to joke about anything.

[Niamh.]

The difference between literal violence and literally violence :laugh:

Indeed :laugh:

[arista]

Getting to stage
should be hard,
He got up on the stage by running so fast

Enough to knock the Great Comedian down


Security Men and Women
should stand at those entry points

[user104658]

Any evidence the person actually had anything to do with trans? Aside from a flippant joke made by someone who makes flippant jokes about trans people?

I don't think the reasons are known but there's plenty of evidence that it was pre-planned (he took stuff with him) and that would suggest having a specific reason to attack Chappelle, specifically, and right now on balance of probabilities that's likely to be because of his Netflix special (there had already been multiple threats made). There's not really anything else current enough causing "Chappelle hate" for it to be likely to be anything else. It would be like Amber Heard being attacked and asking "any evidence this had anything to do with the Johnny Depp litigation?". Evidence perhaps not, likelihood is valid enough to pose the suggestion.

Arista's thread title is a bit misleading but what else is new really... more unusual if it wasn't.

[arista]

Any evidence the person actually had anything to do with trans? Aside from a flippant joke made by someone who makes flippant jokes about trans people?


There in No Evidence
until he goes public.

But Considering this Great Comedian
attacking trans
it is a fair assumption by me
that something that triggered that Runner- Attacker

[Niamh.]

You probably should edit your title Arista actually as that is just supposition at the moment

[Liam-]

Ah, so we’re just in the game of blaming trans people or trans allies when bad things happen, based on no facts then, cool, very normal, very balanced

[arista]

Ah, so we’re just in the game of blaming trans people or trans allies when bad things happen, based on no facts then, cool, very normal, very balanced


Now changed to Crazy Man

[user104658]

Ah, so we’re just in the game of blaming trans people or trans allies when bad things happen, based on no facts then, cool, very normal, very balanced

Suggesting that any discussion of Dave Chappelle isn't currently going to involve trans issues is just unrealistic. It would involve being deliberately avoidant of known, recent, relevant (threats of violence made) events... I don't know why you'd be so keen to live in a crafted/sanitised reality for the sake of comfort. You can't play dumb and say "Chappelle and trans rights? Absolutely no link, I have no idea what you mean :)" and expect that to be taken seriously. If JK Rowling was attacked during a book reading what would your immediate suspicion be? Honestly? There's a slim chance it might be unrelated but it's just not pragmatically likely in the slightest.

To be clear though it's not about "blaming trans people" - I'd no more blame trans people for an attack like this than I'd blame Muslims for a terrorist incident. So long as it isn't being "cheered on" or encouraged it's no one's responsibility but the individual who did it (who I doubt is trans, and if they do indeed claim to be "an ally", they're a terrible one).

[arista]

[Video later showed the attacker,
with what appeared to be a dislocated arm,
being loaded onto an ambulance.]

New Update: Los Angeles Police Department
told NBC that the male suspect had
been armed with a replica gun that
could eject a knife blade when discharged correctly.


https://news.sky.com/story/dave-chappelle-attacked-on-stage-during-stand-up-netflix-show-at-the-hollywood-bowl-12605098

[arista]

https://twitter.com/jimmycarr/status/1521754156481978368

[Oliver_W]

Chances are it was an MRA, let's be real, but it doesn't mean it definitely was - maybe it was a Smollett-believer :joker:

[arista]

Chances are it was an MRA, let's be real, but it doesn't mean it definitely was - maybe it was a Smollett-believer :joker:



[Armed with a replica gun that
could eject a knife blade when discharged correctly.]


No
this was a dangerous Crazy Man

[Crimson Dynamo]

[Armed with a replica gun that
could eject a knife blade when discharged correctly.]


No
this was a dangerous Crazy Man
Hopefully all the USA celebs are tweeting out condemnation?

[Alf]

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[Alf]

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[Alf]

White person attacks Black comedian and not even a whisper from Black Lives Matter.

If Dave was a residivist, drug dealing criminal then statues would have been toppled.

[The Slim Reaper]

:joker:

[Alf]

:joker:That's not like you. You usually do better than that. You're slacking in your old age.

[The Slim Reaper]

That's not like you. You usually do better than that. You're slacking in your old age.

It wasn't laughter at your post, per se. I don't think you were on here this AM, when Arista created the thread saying the guy was a trans supporter in the title. Now we've seen BLM brought into it, so I was just wondering how long it would take to get the full house.

[Alf]

It wasn't laughter at your post, per se. I don't think you were on here this AM, when Arista created the thread saying the guy was a trans supporter in the title. Now we've seen BLM brought into it, so I was just wondering how long it would take to get the full house.They bring it on themselves. I didn't start it.

[The Slim Reaper]

They bring it on themselves. I didn't start it.

Of course. It's the fault of the far left; everyone knows and understands this now.

[Alf]

Of course. It's the fault of the far left; everyone knows and understands this now.I prefer to blame the Mainstream media.

[The Slim Reaper]

I prefer to blame the Mainstream media.

Same thing, amirite?

[GoldHeart]

Of course. It's the fault of the far left; everyone knows and understands this now.

Feminism will probably be dragged into it next .

Anyway I'm glad we've established its a crazy person who attacked chappelle .

[Liam-]

He’ll definitely be antifa before long

[user104658]

It wasn't laughter at your post, per se. I don't think you were on here this AM, when Arista created the thread saying the guy was a trans supporter in the title. Now we've seen BLM brought into it, so I was just wondering how long it would take to get the full house.Do you not think Alf has a point that there hasn't been much chatter on the race front with this? Not that I'm saying there WAS a racial component because I don't personally think there was... But nonetheless, usually there'd be at least some background noise with those suggestions regardless.

One might suggest that Mr Chappelle has dissented one too many times from the accepted mindset of the Group That Doesn't Exist, and has thus lost that usually very vocal support.

[Alf]

He’ll definitely be antifa before longWhile you're only joking, it wouldn't surprise me if that turned out to be the case.

[The Slim Reaper]

Do you not think Alf has a point that there hasn't been much chatter on the race front with this? Not that I'm saying there WAS a racial component because I don't personally think there was... But nonetheless, usually there'd be at least some background noise with those suggestions regardless.

One might suggest that Mr Chappelle has dissented one too many times from the accepted mindset of the Group That Doesn't Exist, and has thus lost that usually very vocal support.

I think your desperation to reply to me is getting the better of you with this one, my guy :laugh:

[bots]

nobody has yet explored that the whole thing was staged .......

[Liam-]

nobody has yet explored that the whole thing was staged .......

I can’t imagine it was staged, did you see the clip of the guy being loaded into ambulance after what Dave’s private thugs did to him?

[Alf]

nobody has yet explored that the whole thing was staged .......Then let's explore.

What do you have for us?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I can’t imagine it was staged, did you see the clip of the guy being loaded into ambulance after what Dave’s private thugs did to him?

Have you any evidence for that claim?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think your desperation to reply to me is getting the better of you with this one, my guy :laugh:

Get a grip slim fgs

:facepalm:

[Beso]

I can’t imagine it was staged, did you see the clip of the guy being loaded into ambulance after what Dave’s private thugs did to him?

Wouldn't it have been the venues security.:shrug:

[The Slim Reaper]

Get a grip slim fgs

:facepalm:

It's nothing to do with you, so why you feel the need to involve yourself is a mystery :blush:

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's nothing to do with you, so why you feel the need to involve yourself is a mystery :blush:

It's a discussion forum not a mind reading one....

[The Slim Reaper]

It's a discussion forum not a mind reading one....

I refer the honourable gentleman to the comments made some moments ago.

[user104658]

I think your desperation to reply to me is getting the better of you with this one, my guy [emoji23]You can just say that you find it difficult to engage openly with the topic, we all have intellectual blind spots.

[Oliver_W]

Do you not think Alf has a point that there hasn't been much chatter on the race front with this? Not that I'm saying there WAS a racial component because I don't personally think there was... But nonetheless, usually there'd be at least some background noise with those suggestions regardless.

One might suggest that Mr Chappelle has dissented one too many times from the accepted mindset of the Group That Doesn't Exist, and has thus lost that usually very vocal support.

I'm sure the people who probably call themselves "anti-racist" would probably cal him an Uncle Tom or something...

[The Slim Reaper]

You can just say that you find it difficult to engage openly with the topic, we all have intellectual blind spots.

I've engaged with the topic previously, and with you. It's not worth it for me anymore tbh, as there is no discussion to be had unfortunately, especially when the same discussion is available in numerous other threads, but you are correct that people have blind spots, especially when things get a bit manic :blush:

[user104658]

I've engaged with the topic previously, and with you. It's not worth it for me anymore tbh, as there is no discussion to be had unfortunately, especially when the same discussion is available in numerous other threads, but you are correct that people have blind spots, especially when things get a bit manic :blush:

Points for learning about how to dogwhistle but then you immediately lost them...

..."frantic" was the word. So, so close.

[Mystic Mock]

It's definitely disturbing that someone hates a Comedian so much that they'd go out of their way to plan all of this.

[Beso]

I was thinking of using this as my showdance..but will post it here instead.

https://youtu.be/0hyJ4L2JxlU

[GoldHeart]

It's definitely disturbing that someone hates a Comedian so much that they'd go out of their way to plan all of this.

It's worrying & disturbing for sure . I hope security gets thoroughly checked and strengthened for future events.

[user104658]

It's worrying & disturbing for sure . I hope security gets thoroughly checked and strengthened for future events.

It's just further erosion of the ability to discuss and explore anything that's deemed "controversial" or a difficult conversation. The two places that it was historically possible to do a deep-dive on tough issues safely were in academia, and in comedy. It's already been stripped from academia over the last few years through threats and intimidation from the Group That Doesn't Exist... comedy was next on the list. Really it was only a matter of time.

[The Slim Reaper]

Points for learning about how to dogwhistle but then you immediately lost them...

..."frantic" was the word. So, so close.

I thought you were about discussion?

When you have to bury yourself in the weeds like this to try and project superiority, then it's equal parts embarrassing and revealing my guy. There's no need to continue any of this, and yet you will still continue to do it. You're an irrelevance to me, but I look forward to you quoting my posts over and over with the same nonsense.

Everything I said about the way you do things, becomes ever more true with every post.

In fact, I'll make this super easy by employing the ignore function, so I don't even have to read anymore of the weirdness.

[Kizzy]

Note the difference in reactions.. these guys were restrained by force by many people for their actions. Will Smith got an award... End the cult of celebrity.

[Niamh.]

Note the difference in reactions.. these guys were restrained by force by many people for their actions. Will Smith got an award... End the cult of celebrity.

Yeah, Will Smith not being thrown out (at the very least) straight away was bizarre

[Oliver_W]

Note the difference in reactions.. these guys were restrained by force by many people for their actions. Will Smith got an award... End the cult of celebrity.

Celebrity itself is fine, as long as it's a "celebration of talent" and giving recognition to people who deserve it.

End the cult of Hollywood. Circle-jerk events like the Oscars are just the tip of it.

[Kizzy]

Suggesting that any discussion of Dave Chappelle isn't currently going to involve trans issues is just unrealistic. It would involve being deliberately avoidant of known, recent, relevant (threats of violence made) events... I don't know why you'd be so keen to live in a crafted/sanitised reality for the sake of comfort. You can't play dumb and say "Chappelle and trans rights? Absolutely no link, I have no idea what you mean :)" and expect that to be taken seriously. If JK Rowling was attacked during a book reading what would your immediate suspicion be? Honestly? There's a slim chance it might be unrelated but it's just not pragmatically likely in the slightest.

To be clear though it's not about "blaming trans people" - I'd no more blame trans people for an attack like this than I'd blame Muslims for a terrorist incident. So long as it isn't being "cheered on" or encouraged it's no one's responsibility but the individual who did it (who I doubt is trans, and if they do indeed claim to be "an ally", they're a terrible one).

And how likely is it that it isn't being cheered on or encouraged given the reactions to Rowling and others?

Has there been any discouragement of this kind of behaviour? I may have missed it, if you know of any I'd be happy to read it.

[Beso]

I thought you were about discussion?

When you have to bury yourself in the weeds like this to try and project superiority, then it's equal parts embarrassing and revealing my guy. There's no need to continue any of this, and yet you will still continue to do it. You're an irrelevance to me, but I look forward to you quoting my posts over and over with the same nonsense.

Everything I said about the way you do things, becomes ever more true with every post.

In fact, I'll make this super easy by employing the ignore function, so I don't even have to read anymore of the weirdness.



You could have just hit the button and said nothing about trying to look superior.

[Kizzy]

Yeah, Will Smith not being thrown out (at the very least) straight away was bizarre

Of course, he was seen as untouchable and that's messed up. Where was security? They have a duty of care to everyone.
Is it any wonder that we are seeing others being attacked? If will got up and smacked somebody without consequence then others will want a go to air their grievances.

[Kizzy]

You can just say that you find it difficult to engage openly with the topic, we all have intellectual blind spots.

Is this a dog whistle? ...I'd say it very much is.

[arista]

Of course, he was seen as untouchable and that's messed up. Where was security? They have a duty of care to everyone.
Is it any wonder that we are seeing others being attacked? If will got up and smacked somebody without consequence then others will want a go to air their grievances.


On the Edge of the stage
held back by the Producers,
as it got, the Show talked about
across the World.

A new thing for them.

[Kizzy]

On the Edge of the stage
held back by the Producers,
as it got, the Show talked about
across the World.

A new thing for them.

Held back? There should have been no time to be held back... this was not a publicity stunt it was an assault.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Note the difference in reactions.. these guys were restrained by force by many people for their actions. Will Smith got an award... End the cult of celebrity.

good point

[The Slim Reaper]

Is this a dog whistle? ...I'd say it very much is.

To be fair, blind spots was just using my words. However, what was conveniently left out, is that I constantly make reference to my own blind spots, to ensure that it isn't about being dismissive or superior, as well as saying words along the lines of "I'm not saying that to be dismissive or using it as an attack."

[arista]

Held back? There should have been no time to be held back... this was not a publicity stunt it was an assault.


It was Live
the producers were watching the Tweets
they used it as a Talking point
which increased the total watching



I recorded it on SkyMoviesHD
and watched it UnCut

it was great to hear the F. word live

[user104658]

I thought you were about discussion?

When you have to bury yourself in the weeds like this to try and project superiority, then it's equal parts embarrassing and revealing my guy. There's no need to continue any of this, and yet you will still continue to do it. You're an irrelevance to me, but I look forward to you quoting my posts over and over with the same nonsense.

Everything I said about the way you do things, becomes ever more true with every post.

In fact, I'll make this super easy by employing the ignore function, so I don't even have to read anymore of the weirdness.

I've never given any indication of being unwilling to discuss or not open to discussing anything... in fact, I'd argue that my willingness to examine a side of a particular issue that makes Slim (I won't address this to Slim himself as he apparently isn't reading it) uneasy has been the crux of our entire issue.

For what it's worth, what's being denigrated as "weirdness" here is a bit of gentle baiting and dog-whistling to confirm a suspicion about a strongly held belief or allegiance that isn't initially being stated outright, but is clearly affecting the parameters of the discussion, is a perfectly valid (and basic) debate strategy. It was quite effective here and a claimed pseudo-neutral stance was revealed to not be anything of the sort very quickly.

As ever - I don't "feel superior" but I won't apologise for debating or pursuing something that's piqued my interest in a discussion, I'm not "embarrassed", and as for the need to continue, I don't do it for Slim or anyone else's attention or interest or to be relevant to anyone so that's not really anyone else's call.

I got plenty out of this tête-à-tête :joker:.

[user104658]

To be fair, blind spots was just using my words. However, what was conveniently left out, is that I constantly make reference to my own blind spots, to ensure that it isn't about being dismissive or superior, as well as saying words along the lines of "I'm not saying that to be dismissive or using it as an attack."

It falls apart like wet tissue paper with minimal pressure though doesn't it?

[user104658]

Note the difference in reactions.. these guys were restrained by force by many people for their actions. Will Smith got an award... End the cult of celebrity.

I agree with that, from both angles really. You'd obviously never see someone high-profile being jumped by security as severely as this. Security was rather heavy-handed with the Chappelle show, and ludicrously absent with Smith/Rock. Of course as it's not an "open to the public" event they type of security at the Oscars will be different (they're expecting external threats trying to get IN, not the celebs themselves booting off) so I think him getting on the stage and managing to hit Rock is understandable... no one knew wtf was happening. BUT... the response afterwards was a joke. Once it had happened, he should have been removed immediately, by force if necessary (as he apparently "refused").