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Crimson Dynamo
16-05-2022, 10:24 AM
"You have got to be a special type of Moron to BOO the National Anthem"
So says Simon Jordan on Talksport as they debate Liverpool Fans antics at the FA Cup final (Live now)
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Why did Liverpool fans BOO Prince William?
Why did Liverpool Fans BOO our own National Anthem?
Is it a push-back on Elitism?
Is it the victimhood of some Liverpool fans?
Will all the BOOers still take the Bank Holidays for the Queen's Platinum?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-fans-booed-fa-cup-26965839
The Slim Reaper
16-05-2022, 11:50 AM
Have you seen the Sourness vid begging Rangers fans not to get up to their usual antics abroad, LT?
Can you explain your comment about the victimhood of Liverpool fans, please?
arista
16-05-2022, 11:53 AM
Have you seen the Sourness vid begging Rangers fans not to get up to their usual antics abroad, LT?
Can you explain your comment about the victimhood of Liverpool fans, please?
Yes Slim
some years ago, now.
Jordan.
16-05-2022, 11:54 AM
All the royals had to do was publicly apologise to Princess Meghan, this will continue.
arista
16-05-2022, 11:57 AM
All the royals had to do was publicly apologise to Princess Meghan, this will continue.
Bollocks
I enjoy Piers Morgan 8PM
tonight, LIVE on Talk TV HD
on all platforms
The Slim Reaper
16-05-2022, 12:01 PM
Yes Slim
some years ago, now.
What is?
arista
16-05-2022, 12:02 PM
What is?
What you are moaning about
The Slim Reaper
16-05-2022, 12:03 PM
What you are moaning about
I asked a question
Crimson Dynamo
16-05-2022, 12:09 PM
Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle told The Mail on Sunday: “I utterly condemn any fans who booed Prince William at Wembley.
“The FA Cup final should be an occasion when we come together as a country. It should not be ruined by a minority of fans’ totally shameful behaviour. In this year of all years – the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee – this is dreadful.”
Conservative MP and former Culture Secretary Karen Bradley added: “It is utterly unacceptable and disgraceful that fans booed Prince William. I would urge the FA to take all necessary action and pursue those responsible.”
Sir Ed Davey, leader of the Liberal Democrats, said: “We have the most wonderful Monarch and those fans who booed do not represent their clubs or our country.”
DT
arista
16-05-2022, 12:09 PM
I asked a question
1989
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster
Niamh.
16-05-2022, 12:14 PM
Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle told The Mail on Sunday: “I utterly condemn any fans who booed Prince William at Wembley.
“The FA Cup final should be an occasion when we come together as a country. It should not be ruined by a minority of fans’ totally shameful behaviour. In this year of all years – the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee – this is dreadful.”
Conservative MP and former Culture Secretary Karen Bradley added: “It is utterly unacceptable and disgraceful that fans booed Prince William. I would urge the FA to take all necessary action and pursue those responsible.”
Sir Ed Davey, leader of the Liberal Democrats, said: “We have the most wonderful Monarch and those fans who booed do not represent their clubs or our country.”
DT
Wonderful :')
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The Slim Reaper
16-05-2022, 12:15 PM
Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle told The Mail on Sunday: “I utterly condemn any fans who booed Prince William at Wembley.
“The FA Cup final should be an occasion when we come together as a country. It should not be ruined by a minority of fans’ totally shameful behaviour. In this year of all years – the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee – this is dreadful.”
Conservative MP and former Culture Secretary Karen Bradley added: “It is utterly unacceptable and disgraceful that fans booed Prince William. I would urge the FA to take all necessary action and pursue those responsible.”
Sir Ed Davey, leader of the Liberal Democrats, said: “We have the most wonderful Monarch and those fans who booed do not represent their clubs or our country.”
DT
Ahh, so it was always just to bait and troll thread?
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Imagine the free speech warriors being upset about...well, free speech.
The can boo all they like for me and they can claim that they're not English but Scouse, but if they don't class themselves as English then why do the want to be a part of the English football league?
They don't like the Royal family, that's fine, but their captain accepted an MBE from the Queen, they should probably start booing him too.
And they claim they don't support England but they soon start whining if their players don't get chosen to represent the England national team.
Oliver_W
16-05-2022, 12:20 PM
The can boo all they like for me and they can claim that they're not English but Scouse, but if they don't class themselves as English then why do the want to be a part of the English football league?
They don't like the Royal family, that's fine, but their captain accepted an MBE from the Queen, they should probably start booing him too.
And they claim they don't support England but they soon start whining if their players don't get chosen to represent the England national team.
You expect logical consistency from the kind of lunatics who'd boo their own national anthem and royal family?
Cherie
16-05-2022, 12:23 PM
The can boo all they like for me and they can claim that they're not English but Scouse, but if they don't class themselves as English then why do the want to be a part of the English football league?
They don't like the Royal family, that's fine, but their captain accepted an MBE from the Queen, they should probably start booing him too.
And they claim they don't support England but they soon start whining if their players don't get chosen to represent the England national team.
Ouch
Cherie
16-05-2022, 12:23 PM
Wonderful :')
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:laugh:
Crimson Dynamo
16-05-2022, 12:28 PM
The can boo all they like for me and they can claim that they're not English but Scouse, but if they don't class themselves as English then why do the want to be a part of the English football league?
They don't like the Royal family, that's fine, but their captain accepted an MBE from the Queen, they should probably start booing him too.
And they claim they don't support England but they soon start whining if their players don't get chosen to represent the England national team.
great points
and they will all be taking off the Bank Holidays for the Queens platinum of course
:joker:
William is the President-Designate of the Football Association so why are they even at the event?
user104658
16-05-2022, 12:37 PM
I doubt they'd have boo'd Wee Liz which is (IMO) illustrative of the future of the monarchy. It'll die with her. Slowly, over several decades, it'll outlast Charles even, but it'll all ultimately be over with The Queen. She's been reigning monarch for so long that not many have another in living memory. Britain does not have a monarchy... Britain has "The Queen" and no one will ever view Charles or William in that same light. That goes for both domestic and international perception.
it's the same as booing taking the knee surely? there is no law against booing something or someone. It's free speech in the form of b o o
The Slim Reaper
16-05-2022, 12:57 PM
The can boo all they like for me and they can claim that they're not English but Scouse, but if they don't class themselves as English then why do the want to be a part of the English football league?
They don't like the Royal family, that's fine, but their captain accepted an MBE from the Queen, they should probably start booing him too.
And they claim they don't support England but they soon start whining if their players don't get chosen to represent the England national team.
You do realise that blues generally support the booing, it's just been so long since they had the opportunity to show it, that this part has been forgotten.
Why would Henderson accepting an honour matter to the protests of the city? Gerrard has an MBE too? It's their job, and representing their country is drummed into footballers from the time they start playing as the greatest honour, so not even sure what this really means.
I don't know any fans that give a sh1t about England. Lots of people don't even understand or are aware of the history. I mean, people who are aware of it still pretend they don't understand it, like this forum
Free speech though, right?
Dogeatdog
16-05-2022, 01:14 PM
I think it’s just a lot of peoples frustrations boiling to the surface at what’s been going on in the UK recently and I suppose maybe some people are just feeling that there’s nothing to be proud of either.
I do feel bad for Prince William because I don’t think he really deserved the reaction he got (having said that I could imagine if it was Prince Harry, people would say it was justified which it still wouldn’t be).
There’s been a lot of tension in the UK with a cost of living crisis, the investigation into the governments Covid gatherings, the Meg & Harry bull**** etc. and a football game really should be an escape from all that crap that’s been going on, so I suppose when the national anthem started playing, I think the booing was more to do with these things and how people feel about the state of the country at the moment.
Do I think the booing was the correct thing to do? Honestly no although I can understand why some may have done it but I think the better thing to have done was to not sing the national anthem at all.
You do realise that blues generally support the booing, it's just been so long since they had the opportunity to show it, that this part has been forgotten.
Why would Henderson accepting an honour matter to the protests of the city? Gerrard has an MBE too? It's their job, and representing their country is drummed into footballers from the time they start playing as the greatest honour, so not even sure what this really means.
I don't know any fans that give a sh1t about England. Lots of people don't even understand or are aware of the history. I mean, people who are aware of it still pretend they don't understand it, like this forum
Free speech though, right?Yes free speech! That's why I said they can boo all they want for me and that I'm fine with them not being fans of the Royals.
i think at lot moans/complaining, home and abroad, is related to the fact that they are pushing the boat out for a celebration of an elitist, over privileged family that no-one respects in the least. Yeah, people will congratulate the queen, she has been around a long time, but the rest of the family are a pretty shameful bunch that don't deserve any respect at all
I think the monarchy is safe for many years to come.
IF the monarchy were abolished, the Royals would still be super privileged with their mega riches, all their valuable assets, the palaces they own outright and land. They can live a life of luxury without having to do all the boring stuff like opening hospitals and visiting schools, entertaining dignitaries and so on...
Their charities and tourism to the UK would be the entities to suffer the loss. Granted, the taxpayers will save themselves the £1.23 they pay for the Royals per annum. Whoopee!
The real losers would be Harry and Meghan, who won’t be Royal any more either so the very thing their ‘brand’ is surviving from financially - their Royal connection’ - would be gone.
Every cloud has a silver lining. :laugh:
i think at lot moans/complaining, home and abroad, is related to the fact that they are pushing the boat out for a celebration of an elitist, over privileged family that no-one respects in the least. Yeah, people will congratulate the queen, she has been around a long time, but the rest of the family are a pretty shameful bunch that don't deserve any respect at all
I disagree, from what I've been reading and recent polls, more people want the monarchy to continue after the Queen goes than not.
....and what do you find shameful about William and Kate, Edward and Sophie, Princess Anne for example?
Jordan.
16-05-2022, 01:35 PM
I doubt they'd have boo'd Wee Liz which is (IMO) illustrative of the future of the monarchy. It'll die with her. Slowly, over several decades, it'll outlast Charles even, but it'll all ultimately be over with The Queen. She's been reigning monarch for so long that not many have another in living memory. Britain does not have a monarchy... Britain has "The Queen" and no one will ever view Charles or William in that same light. That goes for both domestic and international perception.
Facts, William's children won't be seeing the throne.
I disagree, from what I've been reading and recent polls, more people want the monarchy to continue after the Queen goes than not.
....and what do you find shameful about William and Kate, Edward and Sophie, Princess Anne for example?
they are all elitist and over privileged. I would remove the lot of them in an instant. We still have the history which is what the tourists come for. The number of royal events that there are throughout the year pale into insignificance to the value of our history
they are all elitist and over privileged. I would remove the lot of them in an instant. We still have the history which is what the tourists come for. The number of royal events that there are throughout the year pale into insignificance to the value of our history
Remove them, sure - but they will still be elitist and over privileged, like many others, without having to do all that boring stuff. They might even thank you. :laugh:
Republicanism is still pretty niche in this country tbh and I don't see that changing simply because its not a priority for most people and no government is going to take the risk of proposing its abolition. I actually think the monarchy now is a lot more stable than it was a hundred years ago now that it's settled into its largely ceremonial role
It's not like this country is the only one with a royal family, several other European countries still have theirs and seem to manage just fine through periods of succession
Oliver_W
16-05-2022, 01:53 PM
Tbh I've never heard an argument in favour of abolishion which is stronger than "it is the current year". There's just no need.
user104658
16-05-2022, 02:15 PM
Republicanism is still pretty niche in this country tbh and I don't see that changing simply because its not a priority for most people and no government is going to take the risk of proposing its abolition. I actually think the monarchy now is a lot more stable than it was a hundred years ago now that it's settled into its largely ceremonial role
It's not like this country is the only one with a royal family, several other European countries still have theirs and seem to manage just fine through periods of succession
The Queen is still alive though... like I said I think a large number are supporters of Queen Elizabeth II, not the wider concept of monarchy.
That said you may well be right - just because there's no particular passion for the monarchy, doesn't mean there's much of a drive to remove it either, if it's seen as inert. So maybe it will continue through sheer apathy :joker:.
i think Andrew did severe damage to the firm, i think M&H have created their own disquiet. I think people are being polite for now because of the queen, but if Andrew tries to raise his head again during Charles reign, it will be off to the tower
The Queen is still alive though... like I said I think a large number are supporters of Queen Elizabeth II, not the wider concept of monarchy.
That said you may well be right - just because there's no particular passion for the monarchy, doesn't mean there's much of a drive to remove it either, if it's seen as inert. So maybe it will continue through sheer apathy :joker:.
Yeah it will be interesting to see how much the monarchy's popularity will hold up post-Liz, I think both Charles and William will be fairly stable Kings though. I don't expect there to be a change in any of our lifetimes honestly although more and more commonwealth countries will probably become Republics
Cherie
16-05-2022, 02:43 PM
If Charles scales back the monarchy as has been suggested, it will be a popular move
Crimson Dynamo
16-05-2022, 03:01 PM
If Charles scales back the monarchy as has been suggested, it will be a popular move
also if he invades Liverpool and annexes it off to Eire
:fc:
Niamh.
16-05-2022, 03:04 PM
also if he invades Liverpool and annexes it off to Eire
:fc:
:flutter:
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rusticgal
16-05-2022, 03:10 PM
Facts, William's children won't be seeing the throne.
oh dear oh dear.....its not a Fact...its just your opinion. :pat:
Mystic Mock
16-05-2022, 03:18 PM
Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle told The Mail on Sunday: “I utterly condemn any fans who booed Prince William at Wembley.
“The FA Cup final should be an occasion when we come together as a country. It should not be ruined by a minority of fans’ totally shameful behaviour. In this year of all years – the Queen’s Platinum Jubilee – this is dreadful.”
Conservative MP and former Culture Secretary Karen Bradley added: “It is utterly unacceptable and disgraceful that fans booed Prince William. I would urge the FA to take all necessary action and pursue those responsible.”
Sir Ed Davey, leader of the Liberal Democrats, said: “We have the most wonderful Monarch and those fans who booed do not represent their clubs or our country.”
DT
Karen Bradley wants people punished because they booed William?
While I don't agree with them booing him, they haven't done anything legally wrong.
The monarchy has to live on for all our laws to stand...its either anarchy, or the rest of our lives are governed by some self entitled old men in Charles, then william.
Luckily for me, I've had 52 years of the most wonderful, dedicated grand old woman looking after us.
Good luck to you millennials, but I guess it's what all your disrespectful arses deserve.
Enjoy your 52 years.
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