2022 World Cup Discussion Thread

[Nicky91]

now we have all the teams qualified


our prediction discussion kinda can start, poll incoming

[Nicky91]

we can use this one as a ''general discussion thread'' i think

managers of the 2022 world cup (can be changed if england fa suddenly decide to sack southgate, not being wise to do right before a major tournament and no chance for prep under new coach)


Group A

Qatar: Felix Sanchez (ESP)
Ecuador: Gustavo Alfaro (ARG)
Senegal: Aliou Cissé (SEN)
Netherlands: Louis van Gaal (NL)


Group B

England: Gareth Southgate (ENG)
Iran: Carlos Queiroz (POR)
USA: Gregg Berhalter (USA)
Wales: Rob Page (WAL)

Group C
Argentina: Lionel Scaloni (ARG)
Saudi Arabia: Hervé Renard (FRA)
Mexico: Gerardo Martino (ARG)
Poland: Czeslaw Michniewicz (POL)

Group D
France: Didier Deschamps (FRA)
Australia: Graham Arnold (AUS)
Denmark: Kasper Hjulmand (DEN)
Tunisia: Jalel Kadri (TUN)

Group E

Spain: Luis Enrique (ESP)
Costa Rica: Luis Fernando Suarez (COL)
Germany: Hansi Flick (GER)
Japan: Hajime Moriyasu (JAP)

Group F
Belgium: Roberto Martinez (ESP)
Canada: John Herdman (ENG)
Morocco: Wahid Regragui (MOR) Rachid Benmahmoud (MOR)
Croatia: Zlatko Dalic (CRO)

Group G
Brazil: Tite (BRA)
Serbia: Dragan Stojkovic (SRB)
Switzerland: Murat Yakin (SUI)
Cameroon: Rigobert Song (CAM)

Group H
Portugal: Fernando Santos (POR)
Ghana: Otto Addo (GHA)
Uruguay: Diego Alonso (URU)
South Korea: Paulo Bento (POR)

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[bots]

The advertisers on denmarks shirts don't want to be associated with Qatar, so they have dulled everything down

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/976/cpsprodpb/183B0/production/_126884299_-8c0dea85-851d-4476-b736-83e492249799.png

[Nicky91]

https://i.imgur.com/ADIjtGn.jpeg

[Zizu]

England are one injury to Trippier away from Southgate having to explain why he thinks Luke Ayling is a better player than Trent Alexander-Arnold.


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[Nicky91]

Netherlands will send diplomatic officials from our government to Qatar, and also not ruled out that King Willem-Alexander will attend some of the dutch team their matches


there was talks of not attending because of effects of the war in Ukraine and current energy, gas crisis, minister Hoekstra after international debates has decided we will send government officials after all

[Nicky91]

hopefully FIFA paid attention last night to NEC - Fortuna and they don't give many matches to Bas Nijhuis and consorts


what a amateur ref

[Zizu]

Yikes !

I just heard about a guy who went to Qatar with his brother and wife last year .. they all got a little drunk and were imprisoned for three days .. the wife was taken off to a women’s prison .

The guys were injected/sedated whilst there were in their cells !!

That’s a scary thought


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[Mystic Mock]

https://i.imgur.com/ADIjtGn.jpeg

Well I'd get arrested for profanity and listening to loud Music.:joker:

[Nicky91]

Well I'd get arrested for profanity and listening to loud Music.:joker:

yes too loud music ain't good


they should ban heavy metal and techno music worldwide

[bots]

sex with goats is ok though so grealish will be fine

[Zizu]

sex with goats is ok though so grealish will be fine


This makes zero sense to me ..


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[Calderyon]

France, Brazil, Belgium or Argentina.

[Nicky91]

whoever is enough up FIFA's smug arse will win


in this corrupt ****hole of an organisation




i can organize things way better

[bots]

pogba is injured and out of the world cup ..... so sad :laugh:

[Zizu]

We are gonna have to take an awful lot of medics the way this squad is looking

Philips , Walker , Wellbeck and Wilson !!

We just need Darren Anderton , Andy Carroll and Lallana to have the full set of ‘sick notes’


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[Mystic Mock]

yes too loud music ain't good


they should ban heavy metal and techno music worldwide

You're missing out on the good stuff Nicky if you ban these styles of Music.

Doesn't the WipeOut games for example have iconic Techno Music?

[Zizu]

You're missing out on the good stuff Nicky if you ban these styles of Music.

Doesn't the WipeOut games for example have iconic Techno Music?


….


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[Zizu]

yes too loud music ain't good


they should ban heavy metal and techno music worldwide


Where would Rock music be now if Metallica hadn’t come along 30 years ago


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[bots]

Turkey and Pakistan are supplying thousands of security forces to Qatar to provide security for the world cup. Doesn't that sound like a lot of fun :laugh:

Also, the UK is sending hundreds of police to Qatar to advise fans on how they should behave :umm2:

I predict lots of problems for people attending

[Nicky91]

Turkey and Pakistan are supplying thousands of security forces to Qatar to provide security for the world cup. Doesn't that sound like a lot of fun :laugh:

Also, the UK is sending hundreds of police to Qatar to advise fans on how they should behave :umm2:

I predict lots of problems for people attending

good for relations between UK and Qatar


so wise decision Britain's police forces :love:

[Nicky91]

the list of referees

AFC

Abdulrahman Al-Jassim (Qatar)
Chris Beath (Australia)
Alireza Faghani (Iran)
Ma Ning (China PR)
Mohammed Abdulla Hassan Mohamed (United Arab Emirates)
Yoshimi Yama****a (Japan)

CAF
Bakary Gassama (Gambia)
Mustapha Ghorbal (Algeria)
Victor Gomes (South Africa)
Salima Mukansanga (Rwanda)
Maguette Ndiaye (Senegal)
Janny Sikazwe (Zambia)

CONCACAF
Iván Barton (El Salvador)
Ismail Elfath (United States)
Mario Escobar (Guatemala)
Said Martínez (Honduras)
César Arturo Ramos (Mexico)

CONMEBOL
Raphael Claus (Brazil)
Andrés Matonte (Uruguay)
Kevin Ortega (Peru)
Fernando Rapallini (Argentina)
Wilton Sampaio (Brazil)
Facundo Tello (Argentina)
Jesús Valenzuela (Venezuela)

OFC
Matthew Conger (New Zealand)

UEFA
Stéphanie Frappart (France)
István Kovács (Romania)
Danny Makkelie (Netherlands)
Szymon Marciniak (Poland)
Antonio Mateu Lahoz (Spain)
Michael Oliver (England)
Daniele Orsato (Italy)
Daniel Siebert (Germany)
Anthony Taylor (England)
Clément Turpin (France)
Slavko Vinčić (Slovenia)


Assistent ref's

AFC
Mohammadreza Abolfazli (Iran)
Taleb Al-Marri (Qatar)
Mohamed Al-Hammadi (United Arab Emirates)
Hasan Al-Mahri (United Arab Emirates)
Saud Al-Maqaleh (Qatar)
Ashley Beecham (Australia)
Cao Yi (China PR)
Mohammadreza Mansouri (Iran)
Anton Shchetinin (Australia)
Shi Xiang (China PR)

CAF
Mahmoud Abouelregal (Egypt)
Djibril Camara (Senegal)
Jerson dos Santos (Angola)
Abdelhak Etchiali (Algeria)
Mokrane Gourari (Algeria)
Arsénio Marrengula (Mozambique)
Elvis Noupue (Cameroon)
Souru Phatsoane (Lesotho)
El Hadj Malick Samba (Senegal)
Zakhele Siwela (South Africa)

CONCACAF
Kyle Atkins (United States)
Karen Díaz Medina (Mexico)
Helpys Raymundo Feliz (Dominican Republic)
Miguel Hernández (Mexico)
Walter López (Honduras)
Juan Carlos Mora (Costa Rica)
David Morán (El Salvador)
Alberto Morín (Mexico)
Kathryn Nesbitt (United States)
Corey Parker (United States)
Caleb Wales (Trinidad and Tobago)
Zachari Zeegelaar (Suriname)

CONMEBOL
Neuza Back (Brazil)
Juan Pablo Belatti (Argentina)
Diego Bonfá (Argentina)
Bruno Boschilia (Brazil)
Ezequiel Brailovsky (Argentina)
Gabriel Chade (Argentina)
Rodrigo Figueiredo (Brazil)
Tulio Moreno (Venezuela)
Michael Orué (Peru)
Bruno Pires (Brazil)
Jesús Sánchez (Peru)
Danilo Manis (Brazil)
Martín Soppi (Uruguay)
Nicolás Taran (Uruguay)
Jorge Urrego (Venezuela)

OFC
Tevita Makasini (Tonga)
Mark Rule (New Zealand)

UEFA
Ovidiu Artene (Romania)
Simon Bennett (England)
Gary Beswick (England)
Stuart Burt (England)
Ciro Carbone (Italy)
Pau Cebrián Devís (Spain)
Nicolas Danos (France)
Jan de Vries (Netherlands)
Roberto Díaz Pérez del Palomar (Spain)
Rafael Foltyn (Germany)
Alessandro Giallatini (Italy)
Cyril Gringore (France)
Tomaž Klančnik (Slovenia)
Andraž Kovačič (Slovenia)
Tomasz Listkiewicz (Poland)
Vasile Marinescu (Romania)
Adam Nunn (England)
Jan Seidel (Germany)
Paweł Sokolnicki (Poland)
Hessel Steegstra (Netherlands)


VAR's

AFC
Abdulla Al-Marri (Qatar)
Muhammad Taqi (Singapore)
Shaun Evans (Australia)

CAF
Rédouane Jiyed (Morocco)
Adil Zourak (Morocco)

CONCACAF
Drew Fischer (Canada)
Fernando Guerrero (Mexico)
Armando Villarreal (United States)

CONMEBOL
Julio Bascuñán (Chile)
Nicolás Gallo (Colombia)
Leodán González (Uruguay)
Juan Soto (Venezuela)
Mauro Vigliano (Argentina)

UEFA
Jérôme Brisard (France)
Bastian Dankert (Germany)
Ricardo de Burgos Bengoetxea (Spain)
Marco Fritz (Germany)
Alejandro Hernández Hernández (Spain)
Massimiliano Irrati (Italy)
Tomasz Kwiatkowski (Poland)
Juan Martínez Munuera (Spain)
Benoît Millot (France)
Paolo Valeri (Italy)
Pol van Boekel (Netherlands)

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Team Base Camps

Base camps will be used by the 32 national squads to stay and train before and during the World Cup tournament. On July 27, 2022, FIFA announced the hotels and training sites for each participating team.[77][78] This World Cup is the most compact since the inaugural edition in 1930, as 24 of the 32 teams are within a 10km radius of each other and are concentrated within the Doha area. It is also the first instalment since 1930 where players will not need to take flights to matches, and can remain at the same training base throughout the entire tournament.[79][80]

Teams Hotels Training Sites
Argentina Qatar University Hostel 1 Qatar University Training Site 3
Australia New Aspire Academy Athlete Accommodation Aspire Zone Training Facilities 5
Belgium Hilton Salwa Beach Resort and Villas Salwa Training Site
Brazil The Westin Doha Hotel and Spa Al Arabi SC Stadium
Cameroon Banyan Tree Doha At La Cigale Mushaireb Al Sailiya SC Stadium
Canada Century Marina Hotel Lusail Umm Salal SC Training Facilities
Costa Rica dusitD2 Salwa Doha Al Ahli SC Stadium
Croatia Hilton Doha Al Ersal Training Site 3
Denmark Retaj Salwa Resort & SPA Al Sailiya SC 2
Ecuador Hyatt Regency Oryx Doha Mesaimeer SC Training Facilities
England Souq Al Wakra Hotel Qatar by Tivoli Al Wakrah SC Stadium
France Al Messila – A Luxury Collection Resort & Spa, Doha Al Sadd SC Stadium
Germany Zulal Wellness Resort Al Shamal Stadium
Ghana DoubleTree by Hilton Doha - Al Sadd Aspire Zone Training Facilities 1
Iran Al Rayyan Hotel Doha Curio Collection by Hilton Al Rayyan SC Training Facilities 1
Japan Radisson Blu Hotel Doha Al Sadd SC New Training Facilities 1
Mexico Simaisma, A Murwab Resort Al Khor SC Stadium
Morocco Wyndham Doha West Bay Al Duhail SC Stadium
Netherlands The St. Regis Doha Qatar University Training Site 6
Poland Ezdan Palace Hotel Al Kharaitiyat SC Training Facilities
Portugal Al Samriya Autograph Collection Hotel Al Shahaniya SC Training Facilities
Qatar Al Aziziyah Boutique Hotel Aspire Zone Training Facilities 3
Saudi Arabia Sealine Beach, a Murwab Resort Sealine Training Site
Senegal Duhail Handball Sports Hall Al Duhail SC 2
Serbia Rixos Gulf Hotel Doha Al Arabi SC Training Facilities
South Korea Le Méridien City Center Doha Al Egla Training Site 5
Spain Qatar University Hostel 2 Qatar University Training Site 1
Switzerland Le Royal Méridien, Doha University of Doha Training Facilities
Tunisia Wyndham Grand Doha West Bay Beach Al Egla Training Sites 3
United States Marsa Malaz Kempinski, The Pearl – Doha Al Gharafa SC Stadium
Uruguay Pullman Doha West Bay Al Ersal Training Site 1
Wales Delta Hotels City Center Doha Al Sadd SC New Training Facilities 2

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[Nicky91]

heavily rumoured that BTS will perform at the opening ceremony, november 20th

[Zizu]

heavily rumoured that BTS will perform at the opening ceremony, november 20th


They should have booked BlackPink as well

Only girls are bothered about BTS can’t see the fans in the ground being over impressed with BTS


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[Zizu]

Calvert Lewin injured again ..

This should show Southgate that we shouldn’t be taking chances with unfit players


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[Zizu]

Maddison booking his flight to Qatar ….


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[Zizu]

Harvey Barnes also shining tonight


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[Nicky91]

England better watch out for Wales


Bale is back!!!!!!! and in the best mood ever towards Qatar, after his crucial equalizer 3-3 in the MLS Cup

[Nicky91]

Mexico i reckon are pretty much gonna do well too, Carlos Vela still in a similar top form as we knew him back when he was here in europe

[Zizu]

Ben White playing for his England place today ..


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[Zizu]

White was great again .

Saka disappointing but he was kicked relentlessly by Cucurella who somehow avoided a yellow never mind a red

Sterling wouldn’t even get a rating out of ten


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[Calderyon]

Brazil, France, Belgium, Uruguay or Argentina (World Cup win)

[Nicky91]

why doesn't Argentina have Driussi in their squad?


one of best top goalscoring stars of this years MLS season, twice player of the month winner, and not being called up :conf:


he's a real easy goalscorer (an easy recommend for our team PSV to try and sign, i would've preferred him over Luuk de Jong tbh)

[Crimson Dynamo]

why doesn't Argentina have Driussi in their squad?


one of best top goalscoring stars of this years MLS season, twice player of the month winner, and not being called up :conf:


he's a real easy goalscorer (an easy recommend for our team PSV to try and sign, i would've preferred him over Luuk de Jong tbh)

because its the hopeless MLS

[Zizu]

Callum Wilson not able to play the second half ..


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[Nicky91]

because its the hopeless MLS

:nono: lies


it's 5th most popular sport in the US, behind NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL

[Zizu]

Elliott should be picked .. he can play anywhere across the midfield plus wide right forward


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[Zizu]

:nono: lies


it's 5th most popular sport in the US, behind NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL


.. and frisbee


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[Crimson Dynamo]

:nono: lies


it's 5th most popular sport in the US, behind NFL, MLB, NBA and NHL

yes the 5th

and its not taken seriously

its where players go to retire

[Zizu]

Surety this can’t be correct !?

“ Sterling hasn't scored or even assisted in the EPL since **checks notes** AUGUST.....

and he hasnt scored against any team better than 14th place all year....”


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[Mystic Mock]

Brazil, France, Belgium, Uruguay or Argentina (World Cup win)

I'm gonna guess Brazil to win the Qatar World Cup.

[Zizu]

I'm gonna guess Brazil to win the Qatar World Cup.


They are the favourites I think


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[Mystic Mock]

They are the favourites I think


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I'm not surprised tbh as they're basically the Man Utd of International Football.

[Nicky91]

France i'm expecting a flop from them, based on their hopeless form in nations league

still a tough opponent for us, denmark are decent but doable maybe, tunisia on paper should be a win ofc but you never know


maybe we got the Hiddink Effect with some luck on our side, like with Korea in 2002

[bots]

Brazil should win it on paper but you can never rule out Germany

[Zizu]

Brazil should win it on paper but you can never rule out Germany


If I was a betting man ..

In no particular order

Brazil / Argentina / Spain / Belgium / France / Uruguay ( Suarez - Cavani - Nunez up front )

I’m sure I’ve missed someone..


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[Nicky91]

If I was a betting man ..

In no particular order

Brazil / Argentina / Spain / Belgium / France / Uruguay ( Suarez - Cavani - Nunez up front )

I’m sure I’ve missed someone..


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Argentina with a Messi whom never performs well at world cups :laugh3:


France whom flopped massively, even worse than England (didn't know that was possible) in nations league



Uruguay (Nunez is a flop of the year transfer, he is not a worthy Mané replacement at Liverpool)

[Nicky91]

am so praying for TeamUSA to kick England's arses



Netherlands an early exit too in group stage pls :fc: that should teach the smug dutch a lesson



come on Cifuentes, ecuador, some headbutting against our crybaby dutch

[Swan]

Firmino didn't make the Brazilian world cup squad. Jesus and Martinelli did, as did absolute legend Thiago Silva

[Zizu]

Firmino didn't make the Brazilian world cup squad. Jesus and Martinelli did, as did absolute legend Thiago Silva


Interesting.

TalkSport just reported neither Firmino nor Jesus made the squad yet Danni Alves did ???!!!?


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[Zizu]

Argentina with a Messi whom never performs well at world cups :laugh3:


France whom flopped massively, even worse than England (didn't know that was possible) in nations league



Uruguay (Nunez is a flop of the year transfer, he is not a worthy Mané replacement at Liverpool)


Who’s your tip then


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[Swan]

Interesting.

TalkSport just reported neither Firmino nor Jesus made the squad yet Danni Alves did ???!!!?


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Yeah he did, maybe he's been playing well in Mexico. Antony made the cut too.

[Nicky91]

in 3 days from now, Netherlands final squad of 26 will be announced

[Nicky91]

Ecuador punished but allowed to go to world cup


punishment is 3 points penalty in the next world cup qualifications

[bots]

i think the whole competition could all fall apart yet. All it will take is one incident and teams are going to say, nope not having this

[Nicky91]

i think the whole competition could all fall apart yet. All it will take is one incident and teams are going to say, nope not having this

people need to shut their mouths

[Nicky91]

Senegal without Mané, shocker yes, but where one big star is a loss in this tournament, a chance for others to go shining instead



Lewandowski also possible to miss first few matches, after his red card and his vile gesture at last Barca game

[Zizu]

Wilson not in the Newcastle squad tonight


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[Mystic Mock]

Argentina with a Messi whom never performs well at world cups :laugh3:


France whom flopped massively, even worse than England (didn't know that was possible) in nations league



Uruguay (Nunez is a flop of the year transfer, he is not a worthy Mané replacement at Liverpool)

Are we really gonna judge England or France's form off a tinpot competition? It's ridiculous that Southgate in particular has been receiving criticism for not doing well at the Nations League when his done well at the two major tournaments in the World Cup and Euros.

England & France shouldn't be ruled out 100%, they're both good teams and have outperformed Brazil in recent years.

[Nicky91]

Are we really gonna judge England or France's form off a tinpot competition? It's ridiculous that Southgate in particular has been receiving criticism for not doing well at the Nations League when his done well at the two major tournaments in the World Cup and Euros.

England & France shouldn't be ruled out 100%, they're both good teams and have outperformed Brazil in recent years.

England vs France final confirmed then


worldclass england and worldclass france, nothing can go wrong for them

[Nicky91]

can we now say Germany are one of the main contenders


Mario Gotze with them to Qatar :clap1: :clap1: well deserved, he's an absolute beast currently this season at Frankfurt, we also enjoyed having him in eindhoven, lovely guy

[Nicky91]

Belgium surprisingly with Romelu Lukaku in the squad, despite him having had recent injury problems, otherwise no surprises and all familiar names for a 3rd WC for 9 players of them



among Morocco squad: Hakim Ziyech, Noussair Mazraoui, Sofyan Amrabat, Zakaria Aboukhlal

[Nicky91]

tomorrow we'll get to know Netherlands final squad

[Nicky91]

can we now say Germany are one of the main contenders


Mario Gotze with them to Qatar :clap1: :clap1: well deserved, he's an absolute beast currently this season at Frankfurt, we also enjoyed having him in eindhoven, lovely guy

Full Squad of Die Mannschaft, even with two yet to make their debut (Moukouko, Fullkrug)


GK: Manuel Neuer
GK: Marc-Andre Ter Stegen
GK: Kevin Trapp
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DF: Antonio Rudiger
DF: Niklas Sule
DF: Thilo Kehrer
DF: Lukas Klostermann
DF: David Raum
DF: Christian Gunter
DF: Nico Schlotterbeck
DF: Armel Bella-Kotchap
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MF: Joshua Kimmich
MF: Mario Gotze
MF: Illkay Gundogan
MF: Leon Goretzka
MF: Julian Brandt
MF: Kai Havertz
MF: Jamal Musiala
MF: Jonas Hofmann
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FW: Thomas Muller
FW: Leroy Sané
FW: Serge Gnabry
FW: Karim Adeyemi
FW: Niclas Fullkrug
FW: Youssoufa Moukouko

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[Nicky91]

Belgium surprisingly with Romelu Lukaku in the squad, despite him having had recent injury problems, otherwise no surprises and all familiar names for a 3rd WC for 9 players of them



among Morocco squad: Hakim Ziyech, Noussair Mazraoui, Sofyan Amrabat, Zakaria Aboukhlal

Full Belgian Squad


GK: Thibaut Courtois
GK: Simon Mignolet
GK: Koen Casteels
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DF: Jan Vertonghen
DF: Toby Alderweireld
DF: Thomas Meunier
DF: Timothy Castagne
DF: Arthur Theate
DF: Zeno Debast
DF: Wout Faes
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MF: Axel Witsel
MF: Kevin de Bruyne
MF: Yannick Carrasco
MF: Youri Tielemans
MF: Leander Dendoncker
MF: Hans Vanaken
MF: Leandro Trossard
MF: Charles de Ketelaere
MF: Amadou Onana
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FW: Eden Hazard
FW: Dries Mertens
FW: Romelu Lukaku
FW: Michy Batshuayi
FW: Thorgan Hazard
FW: Jeremy Doku
FW: Lois Openda

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Full Morocco Squad


GK: Yassine Bounou
GK: Munir Mohamedi
GK: Ahmed Reda Tagnaouti
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DF: Romain Saiss
DF: Achraf Hakimi
DF: Nayef Aguerd
DF: Noussair Mazraoui
DF: Jawad El Yamiq
DF: Achraf Dari
DF: Badr Benoun
DF: Yahia Attiyat Allah
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MF: Sofyan Amrabat
MF: Selim Amallah
MF: Amine Harit
MF: Illas Chair
MF: Azzedine Ounahi
MF: Yahya Jabrane
MF: Abdelhamid Sabiri
MF: Bilal El Khannous
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FW: Youssef En-Nesyri
FW: Hakim Ziyech
FW: Sofiane Boufal
FW: Abderrazak Hamdallah
FW: Zakaria Aboukhlal
FW: Abde Ezzalzouli
FW: Walid Cheddira

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[Calderyon]

England World Cup Squad announced:

Goalkeepers: Jordan Pickford, Aaron Ramsdale, Nick Pope

Defenders: Kieran Trippier, John Stones, Kyle Walker, Luke Shaw, Harry Maguire, Ben White, Trent Alexander-Arnold, Eric Dier, Conor Coady

Midfielders: Declan Rice, Kalvin Phillips, Mason Mount, Jordan Henderson, Jude Bellingham, Conor Gallagher

Forwards: Harry Kane, Callum Wilson, Raheem Sterling, Phil Foden, Jack Grealish, Bukayo Saka, Marcus Rashford, James Maddison

[Nicky91]

France squad

https://cdn.nos.nl/image/2022/11/10/913822/864x864a.jpg

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[Nicky91]

so yeah ok, France can be contenders, if talents like Camavinga, Tchouameni, Upamecano really play well under this new added pressure


Mbappe or Benzema, i'd choose Benzema as a better clinical forward, definitely Dembele, Coman as wingers, and i'd put Griezmann in the shadow 10 role


Mbappe might be the most expensive footballer out there but Benzema is pure quality on the field whom is very trustworthy up front


experienced goalkeepers too tbh

[Zizu]

England World Cup Squad announced:


Wow

Have to say I’m relieved to see TAA , Maddison and Gallagher in there !!

Disappointed no Toney and amazed he’s risking Wilson .

Also don’t agree with Maguire going !!

I would have preferred Burns , Mings , Tarkowski or even Tomori

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[Zizu]

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[Nicky91]

Uruguay squad


GK: Fernando Muslera
GK: Sergio Rochet
GK: Sebastian Sosa
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DF: Diego Godin
DF: Martin Caceres
DF: Jose Gimenez
DF: Sebastian Coates
DF: Matias Vina
DF: Ronald Araujo
DF: Guillermo Varela
DF: Mathias Olivera
DF: Jose Luis Rodriguez
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MF: Matias Vecino
MF: Rodrigo Betancur
MF: Federico Valverde
MF: Giorgian de Arrascaeta
MF: Lucas Torreira
MF: Nicolas de la Cruz
MF: Manuel Ugarte
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FW: Luis Suarez
FW: Edinson Cavani
FW: Maxi Gomez
FW: Darwin Nunez
FW: Facundo Torres
FW: Facundo Pellistri
FW: Agustin Canobbio

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[Nicky91]

reveal of Netherlands squad

between 13:00 and 13:30 CET (12:00 & 12:30 UK Time) in a live press conference from Van Gaal

[Nicky91]

Netherlands squad


GK: Remko Pasveer
GK: Justin Bijlow
GK: Andries Noppert
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DF: Virgil van Dijk
DF: Nathan Aké
DF: Daley Blind
DF: Jurrien Timber
DF: Tyrell Malacia
DF: Denzel Dumfries
DF: Stefan de Vrij
DF: Jeremie Frimpong
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MF: Frenkie de Jong
MF: Xavi Simons
MF: Cody Gakpo
MF: Kenneth Taylor
MF: Davy Klaassen
MF: Steven Berghuis
MF: Marten de Roon
MF: Teun Koopmeiners
----------------------------
FW: Memphis Depay
FW: Wout Weghorst
FW: Vincent Janssen
FW: Steven Bergwijn
FW: Noa Lang
FW: Luuk de Jong

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[Nicky91]

YASSSSS to Louis choosing Xavi :clap1: :clap1: wise decision, one of our biggest talents currently

[Nicky91]

Senegal squad

GK: Edouard Mendy
GK: Alfred Gomis
GK: Seny Dieng
------------------------
DF: Kalidou Koulibaly
DF: Youssouf Sabaly
DF: Abdou Diallo
DF: Fodé Ballo-Touré
DF: Ismail Jakobs
DF: Formose Mendy
---------------------------
MF: Idrissa Gueye
MF: Cheikhou Kouyaté
MF: Krepin Diatta
MF: Papa Gueye
MF: Papa Matar Sarr
MF: Moustapha Name
MF: Mamadou Loum
MF: Pathé Ciss
---------------------
FW: Sadio Mané
FW: Ismaila Sarr
FW: Famara Diedhiou
FW: Boulaye Dia
FW: Bamba Dieng
FW: Iliman Ndiaye
FW: Nicolas Jackson


Mané with the squad despite injury

[Nicky91]

Netherlands are sending one member of parliament to Qatar, for one match

minister Conny Helder will be in the VIP box on November 29th at Netherlands - Qatar, she was invited by Qatarese officials themselves



if Netherlands qualifies for the knockout stage, they can reconsider sending more officials, a visit from prime minister Rutte or King Willem-Alexander are possible options then

[Zizu]

Well England’s main man Kane is extremely fatigued !!

Not only has he not been able to finish games he’s not been able to complete training sessions !?!?

How is that going to improve over the next ten days when they are hoping to have intensive training/coaching sessions !?

Sterling our second scorer has scored just 3 premier league goals and one of them was a flukey deflection


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[Nicky91]

Argentina squad

GK: Emiliano Martinez
GK: Franco Armani
GK: Geronimo Rulli
----------------------------
DF: Nicolas Otamendi
DF: Marcos Acuna
DF: Nicolas Tagliafico
DF: German Pazzella
DF: Nahuel Molina
DF: Gonzalo Montiel
DF: Juan Foyth
DF: Cristian Romero
DF: Lisandro Martinez
-----------------------------
MF: Leandro Paredes
MF: Rodrigo de Paul
MF: Guido Rodriguez
MF: Exequiel Palacios
MF: Alejandro Gomez
MF: Alexis McAllister
MF: Enzo Fernandez
---------------------------
FW: Lionel Messi
FW: Angel di Maria
FW: Lautaro Martinez
FW: Paulo Dybala
FW: Nicolas Gonzalez
FW: Joaquin Correa
FW: Julian Alvarez

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[Nicky91]

Spain squad

GK: Unai Simon
GK: Robert Sanchez
GK: David Raya
-------------------------
DF: Jordi Alba
DF: Cesar Azpilicueta
DF: Dani Carvajal
DF: Pau Torres
DF: José Gaya
DF: Eric Garcia
DF: Aymeric Laporte
DF: Hugo Guillamon
-----------------------------
MF: Sergio Busguets
MF: Koke
MF: Rodri
MF: Marcos Llorente
MF: Pedri
MF: Gavi
MF: Carlos Soler
--------------------------
FW: Alvaro Morata
FW: Ferran Torres
FW: Marco Asensio
FW: Pablo Sarabia
FW: Dani Olmo
FW: Yeremy Pino
FW: Ansu Fati
FW: Nico Williams

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[Nicky91]

Canada will reveal their squad tomorrow :)



-------------------
South Korea squad


GK: Kim Seung-Gyu
GK: Jo Hyeon-Woo
GK: Song Bum-Keun
------------------------------
DF: Kim Young-Gwon
DF: Kim Jin-Su
DF: Hong Chul
DF: Kim Min-Jae
DF: Kwon Kyung-Won
DF: Kim Moon-Hwan
DF: Kim Tae-Hwan
DF: Cho Yu-Min
DF: Yoon Jong-Gyu
----------------------------
MF: Son Heung-Min
MF: Jung Woo-Young
MF: Lee Jae-Sung
MF: Hwang Hee-Chan
MF: Kwon Chang-Hoon
MF: Hwang In-Beom
MF: Na Sang-Ho
MF: Son Jun-Ho
MF: Paik Seung-Ho
MF: Jeong Woo-Yeong
MF: Lee Kang-In
------------------------
FW: Hwang Ui-Jo
FW: Cho Gue-Sung

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[Nicky91]

Top scorer of the eredivisie, the most assists, the most successful passes, the most chances created and so on. It's a nice list of stats in which Cody Gakpo excels this season.

After the final selection of national coach Louis van Gaal on Friday, the 23-year-old winger of PSV is ready for his first World Cup. "I know it's something special. It's the highest stage you can play on and I'm very curious to see how I feel about it."

Special relationship with Dumfries

Playing for club or country can involve differences in tactics and position, but also when it comes to the environment and with whom you share the dressing room. That is also realized by nine-time international Gakpo, who at the last European Championship was allowed to participate eleven minutes in the group stage against North Macedonia.

"It's very different, because you don't often play together. But the group has broadly stayed together in the past year in such a way that you are a bit used to each other."

He can count on PSV colleagues Luuk de Jong and Xavi Simons. And a former teammate who acts as a kind of mentor. "Denzel Dumfries and I, we have a very good relationship. I speak to him often when I have questions. He already has a bit more experience, so he helps me a lot."

Gakpo continues: "With Steven Bergwijn I also go, I also played with that at PSV. I also have to say that Jurriën Timber and I are growing closer to each other."

Learning during the World Cup
Despite his top statistics after fourteen games in the eredivisie, such as most shots on goal (26) and the second most successful dribbles (25), the native of Eindhoven still sees plenty of areas for improvement.

"I want to be even more consistent and score even more. I think I can also learn a lot in terms of my head strength, my left leg and choosing position."

In the 105 matches he played in the eredivisie, he only came to seventeen goal attempts with the head. Of those, four ended up between the posts and one in the goal. It is true that in the same period of time he already scored twelve times with the left: a third of his shots with his wrong leg ended as a goal.

But you also improve yourself by learning and gaining experience, for example at a final tournament. "Of course you can learn a lot from other professionals in your team, who have already experienced such things. How they deal with certain situations. You get to know each other better and I think you can get a lot out of a tournament like that on the field, but also off it."

The next step
A good World Cup will only increase the interest of foreign top clubs. Yet the tastemaker of PSV does not think of an interim departure, after all the transfer troubles of last summer.

Gakpo: "I think at the end of this season I'll be ready to make that step. I feel like I was at the beginning of this season, but after this season I'm even more ready to take that next step."

His dream club? He's already there, he says with a smile. "PSV was always my dream club. Other than that, I don't really have one."

But when he thinks of the world top: "Real Madrid, FC Barcelona, Manchester United, Manchester City and Liverpool. It would be an honor to be able to play there, but I also have to see what kind of team I would do best."

First orange and the World Cup, with the first group game in more than a week.

https://cdn.nos.nl/image/2022/11/12/914473/1024x576a.jpg

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[Zizu]

So Wilson and Sterling protect themselves by claiming “ illness “
All this while Maddison was playing his heart out , scoring then getting injured !!

What a load of cobblers


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[Zizu]

I never want to see Trevoh Chalobah’s name linked to England !!

He’s completely useless


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[Zizu]

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[Nicky91]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221113/f45cb060fdad6cd72b67fe4f7a23d534.jpg


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you don't have to score with Havertz though


for the goals they got Sané, Gnabry ;)


and Super Mario Gotze can easily also play on 10, has been super consistent at Frankfurt this season, as well as last season solid at PSV

[Nicky91]

tonight's squad reveal Canada


tomorrow squad reveal Ghana

[Nicky91]

Canada squad

GK: Dayne St Clair
GK: James Pantemis
GK: Milan Borjan
--------------------------
DF: Alistair Johnston
DF: Sam Adekugbe
DF: Kamal Miller
DF: Steven Vitoria
DF: Richie Laryea
DF: Derek Cornelius
DF: Joel Waterman
----------------------------
MF: Samuel Piette
MF: Stephen Eustaquio
MF: Atiba Hutchinson
MF: Mark-Anthony Kaye
MF: Ismael Koné
MF: Jonathan Osorio
MF: David Wotherspoon
-------------------------------
FW: Lucas Cavallini
FW: Junior Hoilett
FW: Tajon Buchanan
FW: Iké Ugbo
FW: Cyle Larin
FW: Alphonso Davies
FW: Jonathan David
FW: Liam Millar

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[Nicky91]

Opening Ceremony performers are Shakira, BTS and Black Eyed Peas

for 20th November, before the opening match of Qatar vs Ecuador

[Zizu]

Opening Ceremony performers are Shakira, BTS and Black Eyed Peas

for 20th November, before the opening match of Qatar vs Ecuador


Black Eyed Peas !!!

Are they still relevant ???

How on Earth did they get this gig ?

There last hit was about 15 years ago wasn’t it ?


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[Nicky91]

Black Eyed Peas !!!

Are they still relevant ???

How on Earth did they get this gig ?

There last hit was about 15 years ago wasn’t it ?


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have you been living under a rock or something?


yes they are still relevant, likely they will perform this song, they recently made with Shakira

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me19SUmWu2s

or this one, or both

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMLk_T0PPbk

[Nicky91]

first match we're going to watch here is France vs Australia, for Australia on tuesday


hopefully socceroos have paid attention of les blues their weaknesses in nations league



and hopefully our first shocker of the world cup, always liked Graham Arnold too (quite a legend here in my nation still, from his NAC Breda days) and Guusje Geluk Hiddink, Rene Meulensteen :love:

[Crimson Dynamo]

first match we're going to watch here is France vs Australia, for Australia on tuesday


hopefully socceroos have paid attention of les blues their weaknesses in nations league



and hopefully our first shocker of the world cup, always liked Graham Arnold too (quite a legend here in my nation still, from his NAC Breda days) and Guusje Geluk Hiddink, Rene Meulensteen :love:

Its starts on Sunday :conf:

[Nicky91]

Its starts on Sunday :conf:

yes that one i'll watch too


just the one in the middle i ignore, on mondays

a team coached by some ''god'' movie star or something, Louis van whatever, despise him :fan:

[Nicky91]

https://www.anpfoto.nl/downloadpicturepreview.pp?pictureid=457862049

https://www.anpfoto.nl/downloadpicturepreview.pp?pictureid=457861378

https://www.anpfoto.nl/downloadpicturepreview.pp?pictureid=457863277

Netherlands team before departure at schiphol to Qatar

[Alf]

Is Messi going to the World Cup?

[Vanessa]

It's coming home, it's coming home :dance:

[Zizu]

Is Messi going to the World Cup?


Yes … and with the best Argentina squad in recent memory.. he’s scored 0 international goals in his last 3 games alone

They are second favourites after Brazil

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[bots]

Yes … and with the best Argentina squad in recent memory.. he’s scored 0 international goals in his last 3 games alone

They are second favourites after Brazil

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0 goals, wow :laugh:

[Zizu]

have you been living under a rock or something?


yes they are still relevant, likely they will perform this song, they recently made with Shakira

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me19SUmWu2s

or this one, or both

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMLk_T0PPbk


The Black Eyed Peas haven’t had an album in the charts since 2010 !!

Last official single make the charts was in 2011 .. with a reissued version of their main song Where is the Love scraping into the top 50 at number 47 in 2015 !

End of


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[bots]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/976/cpsprodpb/725A/production/_127647292_englandfans.jpg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-7c4eac33-414e-4d53-895d-f7a53aaed751.png

[Mystic Mock]

Spain squad

.

I love how they didn't even pick their best goalkeeper.:joker:

[Nicky91]

I love how they didn't even pick their best goalkeeper.:joker:

Luis his own choices, and i especially love it how there are almost no real players and a majority of Barca players

#VivaLaCatalunya

[Nicky91]

France: Didier Deschamps will today call up a replacement for Christopher Nkunku

[Nicky91]

Deschamps has called up Randall Kolo Muani (from Eintracht Frankfurt) as replacement for Nkunku

[Beso]

Top scorer of the eredivisie, the most assists, the most successful passes, the most chances created and so on. It's a nice list of stats in which Cody Gakpo excels this season.

After the final selection of national coach Louis van Gaal on Friday, the 23-year-old winger of PSV is ready for his first World Cup. "I know it's something special. It's the highest stage you can play on and I'm very curious to see how I feel about it."

Special relationship with Dumfries

Playing for club or country can involve differences in tactics and position, but also when it comes to the environment and with whom you share the dressing room. That is also realized by nine-time international Gakpo, who at the last European Championship was allowed to participate eleven minutes in the group stage against North Macedonia.

"It's very different, because you don't often play together. But the group has broadly stayed together in the past year in such a way that you are a bit used to each other."

He can count on PSV colleagues Luuk de Jong and Xavi Simons. And a former teammate who acts as a kind of mentor. "Denzel Dumfries and I, we have a very good relationship. I speak to him often when I have questions. He already has a bit more experience, so he helps me a lot."

Gakpo continues: "With Steven Bergwijn I also go, I also played with that at PSV. I also have to say that Jurriën Timber and I are growing closer to each other."

Learning during the World Cup
Despite his top statistics after fourteen games in the eredivisie, such as most shots on goal (26) and the second most successful dribbles (25), the native of Eindhoven still sees plenty of areas for improvement.

"I want to be even more consistent and score even more. I think I can also learn a lot in terms of my head strength, my left leg and choosing position."

In the 105 matches he played in the eredivisie, he only came to seventeen goal attempts with the head. Of those, four ended up between the posts and one in the goal. It is true that in the same period of time he already scored twelve times with the left: a third of his shots with his wrong leg ended as a goal.

But you also improve yourself by learning and gaining experience, for example at a final tournament. "Of course you can learn a lot from other professionals in your team, who have already experienced such things. How they deal with certain situations. You get to know each other better and I think you can get a lot out of a tournament like that on the field, but also off it."

The next step
A good World Cup will only increase the interest of foreign top clubs. Yet the tastemaker of PSV does not think of an interim departure, after all the transfer troubles of last summer.

Gakpo: "I think at the end of this season I'll be ready to make that step. I feel like I was at the beginning of this season, but after this season I'm even more ready to take that next step."

His dream club? He's already there, he says with a smile. "PSV was always my dream club. Other than that, I don't really have one."

But when he thinks of the world top: "Real Madrid, FC Barcelona, Manchester United, Manchester City and Liverpool. It would be an honor to be able to play there, but I also have to see what kind of team I would do best."

First orange and the World Cup, with the first group game in more than a week.

https://cdn.nos.nl/image/2022/11/12/914473/1024x576a.jpg

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Do you think he will start nicky?

Hes some prospect

[Nicky91]

Do you think he will start nicky?

Hes some prospect

i hope so, i hope both him and Xavi will make minutes

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Zizu]

I’d try

Keeper Ramsdale

RB Trippier , White and Stones , LB Shaw

Rice / Bellingham

Mount

Left Grealish , Kane and Saka on the right


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[Nicky91]

first training sessions of the dutch team amid the heat, coach Van Gaal wants to see how his team performs amid temperatures like 30C

[Vanessa]

This is so exciting. I will be cheering for England. Italy ha won the Euros. Now I would love for England to win the World Cup. They have a great team, they can do it!

[Nicky91]

i'm cheering the most for Australia, but also for Iran and will be thoroughly invested in Belgium's group because that one seems sooo exciting (Belgium, Morocco, Croatia and debuting Canada)


France are not at one of their strongest moments so there could be some chances in that group for the socceroos, Tunisia is doable on paper and Denmark could be really close call, maybe chances for a little draw

[Zizu]

This is so exciting. I will be cheering for England. Italy ha won the Euros. Now I would love for England to win the World Cup. They have a great team, they can do it!


It’s gonna be difficult and we will need a lot of luck in the draw but it’s feasible

I just wish Southgate wasn’t so cautiously negative and had a clue about tactics


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[Nicky91]

no Kepa for Spain is a shocker maybe name wise, but i trust Luis Enrique his decision making skills

Pep praises him too as a coach, his bias maybe as they are friends for a very long time

[James]

New Nike advert.

6p4SeR3pliM

[Cherie]

There is no buzz, usually the shops would be full of flags and merchandise and beer ....nada

[Zizu]

There is no buzz, usually the shops would be full of flags and merchandise and beer ....nada


That’s a good point .. strange


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[Cherie]

That’s a good point .. strange


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Not seen a Wallchart either or sticker books

[Zizu]

Yikes … now we know why Ivan Toney was mysteriously overlooked for injury prone Wilson ( who’s been poorly of late as well )


Toney to face 232 separate illegal betting charges !!

He’s a fabulously wealthy guy ..

Why ???


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[Nicky91]

There is no buzz, usually the shops would be full of flags and merchandise and beer ....nada

NRl4h6N_jv4

f3YbRme0yLA

two of my nation's world cup ads

one from supermarket chain Albert Heijn and the other from gambling site BetCity

[bots]

there are not many group games that look particularly interesting to me, that together with it being held in winter doesn't get me particularly excited. I think i will only watch a small handful of games in the early stages

[Nicky91]

there are not many group games that look particularly interesting to me, that together with it being held in winter doesn't get me particularly excited. I think i will only watch a small handful of games in the early stages

the group games which look most exciting on paper

Group A: Senegal vs Netherlands
Group B: England vs Iran, England vs USA, Wales vs USA
Group C: Argentina vs Mexico, Poland vs Mexico
Group D : France vs Australia, France vs Denmark
Group E: Spain vs Germany
Group F: basically every game in this hard to predict group
Group G: Brazil vs Switzerland, Serbia vs Switzerland
Group H: Portugal vs Uruguay, Portugal vs South Korea, Uruguay vs South Korea


think Group E looks like most predictable on paper, along with Group A


i'm not gonna say anything about England's chances because i don't know where they stand with Southgate's messy tactics, while Queiroz has proven himself as a pretty solid manager for Iran in last 2 world cups, and Berhalter being very well respected by the team and USA having quite some talented players, and Wales well Bale just got back to form from a long injury, very eager too and in a winning mood again



not sure about Portugal either, hope they bench Ronaldo if they're smart, with his recent drama and basically insulting lots of current and former United players and staff, pretty sure Bruno would be more happier with Ronaldo benched than to be playing with that rat



Mexico relying on veterans combined with new talent, captain Guardado's 5th world cup appearance :worship:

[Zizu]

there are not many group games that look particularly interesting to me, that together with it being held in winter doesn't get me particularly excited. I think i will only watch a small handful of games in the early stages


I’ll be watching all the England, Spain, Argentina, Brazil , France , Belgium , Uruguay and Portugal games .. and a few others like Wales v USA :)


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[Nicky91]

Youngest Players on this years world cup

https://cdn.nos.nl/image/2022/11/17/916270/864x864a.jpg

Oldest Players on this years world cup

https://cdn.nos.nl/image/2022/11/17/916272/864x864a.jpg


number of players per league on this years world cup

https://cdn.nos.nl/image/2022/11/17/916275/864x864a.jpg


number of players per team on this years world cup

https://cdn.nos.nl/image/2022/11/17/916277/864x864a.jpg


all thanks to the NOS for these reports on statistics

[Nicky91]

am happy for Atiba he gets to experience being on a world cup, in his late career days :love:

know him very well from his PSV days

[Cherie]

NRl4h6N_jv4

f3YbRme0yLA

two of my nation's world cup ads

one from supermarket chain Albert Heijn and the other from gambling site BetCity

:love:

[bots]

I’ll be watching all the England, Spain, Argentina, Brazil , France , Belgium , Uruguay and Portugal games .. and a few others like Wales v USA :)


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the thought of watching games in the england group fills me with a shiver, i couldn't imagine anything more boring

[Crimson Dynamo]

im aiming to watch as many games as i can, 4 a day if poss

[Zizu]

This ain’t good ..

:::

Exclusive: Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players $7.4 million to lose the opener(1-0 ⚽️ 2nd half). Five Qatari and #Ecadour insiders confirmed this.We hope it's false. We hope sharing this will affect the outcome.The world should oppose FIFA corruption.
@MailSport #WorldCup2022


https://twitter.com/amjadt25/status/1593271354803032064?s=48&t=D-28ed8rUA3U5pN92oZAfg


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[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/amjadt25/status/1593271354803032064?s=20&t=gvj3YYiJZ39TNdI1Tf9Ckg

[Zizu]

BREAKING NEWS- Ivan Toney has denied that the recent betting allegations cost him a place in the England Squad and states he is gutted he will not be involved in Monday’s 2 - 2 draw with Iran ...


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[bots]

they have bribed everyone along the way, so why would the competition be any different. Expect Brazil to lose 3-0 to Qatar in the final :laugh:

[Nicky91]

two Argentina players injured

Nicolas Gonzalez and Joaquin Correa

and they are replaced by Angel Correa, Thiago Almada

[Nicky91]

Romelu Lukaku will miss first group match of Belgium

[Zizu]

Romelu Lukaku will miss first group match of Belgium


Yet another example of the risks involved when you take injured / unfit players never mind players like Maguire who are not playing regularly and are a liability when they do play .. pretty sure Maguire played in all of United’s defeats / bad performances this season


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[Alf]

Yet another example of the risks involved when you take injured / unfit players never mind players like Maguire who are not playing regularly and are a liability when they do play .. pretty sure Maguire played in all of United’s defeats / bad performances this season


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProMaguire has been England's best centre back for the past 6 years. Which centre back plays better than him when they're in the England shirt.

Playing with better players as opposed to playing alongside muck can make you look a totally different player.

You don't need to worry about Maguire's club form because he always does the business in an England shirt.

[Zizu]

Maguire has been England's best centre back for the past 6 years. Which centre back plays better than him when they're in the England shirt.

Playing with better players as opposed to playing alongside muck can make you look a totally different player.

You don't need to worry about Maguire's club form because he always does the business in an England shirt.


Well we are about to see if your loyalty is warranted


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[bots]

alcohol will be banned at WC stadiums ... what a big surprise :joker:

[Cherie]

Just two days before Qatar faces Ecuador in the opening match of the tournament, the country changed its mind about allowing supporters arriving at venues to buy alcohol from stalls outside.

Senior figures confirmed that Fifa had come under pressure from Qatar – and will release a statement on Friday afternoon confirming that sales will no longer take place. As it stands, no immediate complaints have been raised about alcohol sales in fan zones.

Potential contractual changes to policy could be hugely costly for Fifa. Budweiser spends a report $75 million to partner with the World Cup every four years. On Friday morning the brewer responded to the news on Twitter saying ' well this is awkward'


Well I hope this teaches FIFA a valuable lesson about who to award their World Cups to :joker:

[Zizu]

Just two days before Qatar faces Ecuador in the opening match of the tournament, the country changed its mind about allowing supporters arriving at venues to buy alcohol from stalls outside.

Senior figures confirmed that Fifa had come under pressure from Qatar – and will release a statement on Friday afternoon confirming that sales will no longer take place. As it stands, no immediate complaints have been raised about alcohol sales in fan zones.

Potential contractual changes to policy could be hugely costly for Fifa. Budweiser spends a report $75 million to partner with the World Cup every four years. On Friday morning the brewer responded to the news on Twitter saying ' well this is awkward'


Well I hope this teaches FIFA a valuable lesson about who to award their World Cups to :joker:


It will be interesting when thousands of Brits arrive needing to get drunk to simply get through the day ..


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[bots]

i don't know if there are any projected figures for uk fans attending, but i'm guessing the numbers will be well down on previous events. There are just too many downsides

[Nicky91]

Spain, injury Jose Luis Gaya


his replacement is Barca's Alejandro Balde

[Nicky91]

v6CBa7fwj5o

[bots]

1593879961706049536

Fifa president Gianni Infantino has accused the West of "hypocrisy" in its reporting about Qatar's human rights record on the eve of the World Cup.

In an extraordinary monologue at a news conference in Doha, Infantino spoke for nearly an hour and made a passionate defence of Qatar and the tournament.

The event has been overshadowed by issues in Qatar including deaths of migrant workers and treatment of LGBT people.

Switzerland-born Infantino said that European nations should apologise for acts committed in their own histories, rather than focussing on migrant workers' issues in Qatar.

Infantino opened by saying: "Today I have strong feelings. Today I feel Qatari, I feel Arab, I feel African, I feel gay, I feel disabled, I feel a migrant worker."

Hosts Qatar kick off the tournament against Ecuador at Al Bayt Stadium on Sunday (16:00 GMT).

In February 2021, the Guardian said 6,500 migrant workers from India, Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka had died in Qatar since it won its World Cup bid.

The number is based on figures provided by the countries' embassies in Qatar.

However, the Qatar government said the total was misleading, because not all the deaths recorded were of people working on World Cup-related projects.

Infantino said: "I am European. For what we have been doing for 3,000 years around the world, we should be apologising for the next 3,000 years before giving moral lessons.

"If Europe really care about the destiny of these people, they can create legal channels - like Qatar did - where a number of these workers can come to Europe to work. Give them some future, some hope.

"I have difficulties understanding the criticism. We have to invest in helping these people, in education and to give them a better future and more hope. We should all educate ourselves, many things are not perfect but reform and change takes time.

"This one-sided moral lesson is just hypocrisy. I wonder why no-one recognises the progress made here since 2016.

"It is not easy to take the critics of a decision that was made 12 years ago. Qatar is ready, it will be the best World Cup ever.

"I don't have to defend Qatar, they can defend themselves. I defend football. Qatar has made progress and I feel many other things as well.

"Of course I am not Qatari, Arab, African, gay, disabled or a migrant worker. But I feel like them because I know what it means to be discriminated and bullied as a foreigner in a foreign country."

Qatar has been under pressure to build a migrant workers' centre and Infantino announced a "dedicated and permanent office" in Doha, following discussions with the Qatar government and International Labour Organisation (ILO).

He also said every worker that has an accident "receives compensation by law".

"Depending on the magnitude, it can be several years of salary," he added.

Infantino also said Fifa's Qatar 2022 legacy fund will go into education, signing an agreement that will help 25 million children and women in India.

Just two days before the start of the tournament, Fifa changed its policy and announced no alcohol will be served at any of the eight World Cup stadiums.

Alcohol was set to be served "in select areas within stadiums", despite its sale being strictly controlled in the Muslim country.

Those in corporate areas of stadiums at the tournament will still be able to purchase alcohol.

Addressing the changed decision, Infantino said: "If this is the biggest issue we have for the World Cup then I will resign immediately and go to the beach to relax.

"Let me first assure you that every decision taken at this World Cup is a joint decision between Qatar and Fifa.

"There will be many fan zones where you can buy alcohol in Qatar and fans can simultaneously drink alcohol. I think if for three hours a day you cannot drink a beer, you will survive.

"Especially because the same rules apply in France, Spain, Portugal and Scotland. Here it has become a big thing because it is a Muslim country? I don't know why. We tried and that is why I give you the late change of policy. We tried to see if it was possible."

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Talk about not reading the mood of the room :laugh:

It's not about what we did hundreds of years ago, it's about human rights now :laugh: If thats the view of the guy in charge of FIFA, this world cup is going to be an absolute disaster. He will have annoyed so many nations with that speech there is bound to be trouble now

[bots]

He compared his bullying as a young child for being red-headed to the marginalised
Opened his keynote speech in Doha saying that he felt 'like a migrant worker'
Suggested if Europe 'really cared' about migrant workers they could do as Qatar did and offer a 'legal' passage into the countries
Repeatedly appeared to draw a dividing line between Europe and the hosts
Reaffirmed that all were 'welcome' in Qatar over concerns for LGBTQ+ individuals
In response to a question over Iran's participation suggested a tournament be held there
Offered up Israelis and Palestinians being in the same country as potential for a 'door' being opened to peace
Suggested that the last minute changes to alcohol policy had brought FIFA and Budweiser 'closer'

:joker:

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

No Benzema


fantastic news, no Benzema, Pogba, Kanté all world stars, not playing against our socceroos



:clap1: :cheer2: :cheer2:

[Nicky91]

Looking forward to Robbie's performance as well in todays opening ceremony :)

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Nicky91]

Australia: Marco Tilio is the replacement for Martin Boyle, Boyle was already unsure for the world cup with a knee injury, the hibernian forward is replaced by the player from melbourne city

[Crimson Dynamo]

No host has ever lost their first match of the tournament.

[Nicky91]

Qatar aren't that bad you know



some fun facts about their coach

Felix Sanchez

1999 - 2006 FC Barcelona (Youth)

2006 - 2013 Aspire Academy (Qatar)

2013 - 2017 Qatar U19

2017 - 2020 Qatar U23

2017 - present Qatar



he won asian cup title in 2019, 2021 gold cup semi finalists (losing to hosts USA) and also in 2021, semi finalists of first edition FIFA Arab Cup on home ground, eventually becoming 3rd



their top capped player is Hassan Al Haydos, 169 international appearances and currently active top goalscorer is 2nd on top goalscorers list, Almoez Ali (currently at 42 goals in 85 games)

[Crimson Dynamo]

ON NOW BBC1 HD

[Beso]

ON NOW BBC1 HD

Have they mentioned 66 yet?

[Swan]

Looks like the BBC will live on the mute button throughout the world cup.

[Crimson Dynamo]

typical woke BBC with the panel

:facepalm:

[Nicky91]

6qI-va1F5ck

[Crimson Dynamo]

Have they mentioned 66 yet?

yes lots in opening sequence

[Crimson Dynamo]

when will Linekar learn that these clown shoes he is wearing and wears all the time were never in fashion and if they were it was a brief 1 month period in 2018?

[Nicky91]

https://cdn.nos.nl/image/2022/11/20/917167/1024x576a.jpg

Qatar in 1981, already played a ''world cup final''

at the youth teams that is then of the 1981 youth world cup


https://cdn.nos.nl/image/2022/11/20/917169/1024x576a.jpg

Badr Bilal & Khalid Salman before the semi final match vs England


and this is the legend who put football on the map in Qatar, former Barca and Santos Icon, Evaristo de Macedo
https://twitter.com/fcbarcelona_br/status/1539591673180831744


NOS report: https://nos.nl/artikel/2453096-hoe-qatar-in-1981-al-een-wk-finale-speelde-niemand-in-qatar-leeft-voor-voetbal

i translated most important bits for you guys

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Zizu]

Sooooo …. if all goes to plan and Argentina make the final … it will be Messi’s 1,000 th game !!


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[Zizu]

Looks like the BBC will live on the mute button throughout the world cup.


Especially when Alex Scott is piping up …


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[Zizu]

No host has ever lost their first match of the tournament.


They won’t lose today

It’s already been sorted ..

:)


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[bots]

the panel are already annoying me :laugh:

[bots]

how do people pronounce qatar,

I pronounce it like its a by product of a cold, others seem to pronounce it kitar

[Zizu]

how do people pronounce qatar,

I pronounce it like its a by product of a cold, others seem to pronounce it kitar


Yeah I was surprised..

I’ve been pronouncing it like you .. like phlegm..


.

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[Zizu]

Have I missed the lavish opening ceremony ??

They supposedly kick off in 6 minutes at 4pm


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Especially when Alex Scott is piping up …


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putting her in on a mens world cup is pathetic

[Zizu]

I wish the cameras wouldn’t go quite so close to the players when they are singing .. close ups of their nostrils isn’t a good angle


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[Zizu]

putting her in on a mens world cup is pathetic


Well the ladies match last night had a female host / hostess plus three female ex players ..

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[bots]

good start for the home side :laugh:

[Calderyon]

Qatar v Ecuador 0-0 12'

[bots]

lool it was disallowed .... no reason for that :laugh:

[MTVN]

Err what??

[bots]

haha exactly ... this bodes well for the rest of the tournament

[bots]

the qatar goalkeeper looks like a star in the making :hehe:

[Zizu]

haha exactly ... this bodes well for the rest of the tournament


No way offside

Plus some tackles have been more like assaults

I was hoping the refs wouldn’t continue with the policy to let tackles go in from all angles as some of these teams are crazy


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[MTVN]

Can only assume it was actually ruled out for a foul but the ref definitely signalled offside

[Zizu]

Can only assume it was actually ruled out for a foul but the ref definitely signalled offside


It wasn’t a foul on the keeper anyways though ..


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[bots]

the qatar goalkeeper looks like a star in the making :hehe:

:joker:

[Calderyon]

Qatar v Ecuador 0-0 12'

Qatar v Ecuador 0-2 31'

16' 0-1 Valencia PK
31' 0-2 Valencia

[Zizu]

I hope the reffing is amended slightly to give the flair players some protection


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[Zizu]

Dion Dublin laughing at that second goal as the all went in off the top of his head with his eyes shut as well


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[Nicky91]

england - iran tomorrow will be 15-0

15 goals from Harry Kane


no one can stop nazi england

[Zizu]

england - iran tomorrow will be 15-0

15 goals from Harry Kane


no one can stop nazi england


Time to lock the sherry away , bud


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[Zizu]

Another horrific tackle ( assault )


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[Zizu]

… and the refs are still being conned every-time a defender falls to the floor when they are shielding the ball


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[Zizu]

Qatar with a Portuguese and a French guy playing by today .. any other ringers ?


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[bots]

the second half was ****

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/11/20/17/64749161-11449565-image-a-15_1668965585541.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

men against boys

I love how only the paid for Qatar "fans" were left and all the actual fans of Qatar left and half time

:joker:

The Qatar manager looked embarrassed from minute 5 on

[Crimson Dynamo]

england - iran tomorrow will be 15-0

15 goals from Harry Kane


no one can stop nazi england

shut up Nicky no one is buying your routine anymore

[Calderyon]

Qatar looked extremely weak as Ecuador was in complete control all the way.

Netherlands and Senegal are going have a field day.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Mystic Mock]

Well Qatar failed to recreate what Russia did against Saudi Arabia back in 2018.

I suspect that this is gonna be a long week for them, which tbh I do feel bad for the fans on seeing their team lose every game.

[Mystic Mock]

typical woke BBC with the panel

:facepalm:

It's just the way it is nowadays.

Although having said that I do like Alex Scott in particular, but Ashley Williams is fine as well imo.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's just the way it is nowadays.

Although having said that I do like Alex Scott in particular, but Ashley Williams is fine as well imo.

she is no better than anyone else

its a mans tournament and she has no place in it save vile woke BS

[AnnieK]

she is no better than anyone else

its a mans tournament and she has no place in it save vile woke BS

They have to have a woman though after ian Wright did the women's tournament

[Crimson Dynamo]

They have to have a woman though after ian Wright did the women's tournament

no they dont

he was in there to add gravitas and the mens game is far superior

[Mystic Mock]

They have to have a woman though after ian Wright did the women's tournament

This really.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[bots]

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thats a fake picture, he didnt wear that armband

[Nicky91]

come on Belgium, and withdraw from this vile world cup, after FIFA tried to dictate you into changing your away shirts and warming up outfits

https://cdn.nos.nl/image/2022/11/21/917906/1024x576a.jpg

[Mystic Mock]

come on Belgium, and withdraw from this vile world cup, after FIFA tried to dictate you into changing your away shirts and warming up outfits

https://cdn.nos.nl/image/2022/11/21/917906/1024x576a.jpg

Tbf Brazil and Argentina should join them as well.

As should Germany and France too.:hehe:

[Nicky91]

i am glad i am not watching a single game



i rather look back at some of the normal world cups, from 2002, 2006, 2010 in normal countries

[bots]

itv having Souness and Roy Keane discussing human rights ..... this is going to piss me off very quickly

[Zizu]

itv having Souness and Roy Keane discussing human rights ..... this is going to piss me off very quickly


Their argument at half time was the catalyst for this massive upset :)


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[Zizu]

So we have apparently played an extra game .. in injury time add ons ..


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[Zizu]

Interesting to see they play The Business by Tiesto before every game


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[James]

These lectures the BBC is doing about Qatar are really weird. Now accusing them of not being carbon neutral.

When has that ever been brought up for a sporting event.

[bots]

yeah, i'm sick of it, itv have been doing similar. I want to watch football not get a lecture on carbon neutrality

[Swan]

I don't watch any build up, and switch over for 15 mins during half time, i avoid all those smug tw@s lecturing and preaching to us. If they really wanted to make a stand, they wouldn't have gone over there. It's all a load of crap. Still, it's not like i pay the scam licence.

[Zizu]

Hope this isn’t true but …

Kane needs a scan on his ankle.

That is potentially quite worrying news


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[James]

yeah, i'm sick of it, itv have been doing similar. I want to watch football not get a lecture on carbon neutrality

It's annoying because the World Cup is my favourite sporting event. I like it better than Christmas. :blush:

The thing I noticed was they never talk to anyone from Qatar about these issues - it's all about them going out there and wagging their fingers.

[arista]

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[Zizu]

I swear some poor guy is gonna get seriously injured soon

The reffing is just to lenient. Even Souness said as much yesterday

How was that not a yellow for Modric ?

Late and dangerous tackle from the side .
That’s three bad tackles just from Modric

Ref does nothing ..


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[bots]

the refs have been told to let the games flow, just like in the premier league. Souness was one of the dirtiest players to ever play professional football, so his opinion means nothing

[Zizu]

the refs have been told to let the games flow, just like in the premier league. Souness was one of the dirtiest players to ever play professional football, so his opinion means nothing


Well it does in my opinion- as if he thinks the refs are too lenient then they probably are - given the way he used to play

Also letting the play flow doesn’t equate to ignoring really bad tackles.. time after time ..

How did Kane pick up his injury.. anyone know ?

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FiDH6f2XkAAQZRx?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Zizu]

I’m thinking another shock 3:1 to Canada


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[Zizu]

Belgium well be blowing out their arses in the second half

All the upsets came from 1:0 down I think


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[Zizu]

Of course Alex Scott isn’t surprised how well Canada are playing ..


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[Alf]

The video ends at 3.15.after that it's just an advert he has to do for him to get paid from his channel.


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[arista]

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[Zizu]

Stats freaks ??

FIFA Points Ranking after 12 games.
If 2 pt per win and 1 pt per draw were given.

UEFA: 14/13 = 1.08
AFC: 4/6 = 0.67
CONCACAF: 2/4 = 0.5
CONMEBOL: 2/4 = 0.5
CAF: 2/5 = 0.4


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[Zizu]

Barca leading the way with 3 goals thus far

14:45 24th November 2022


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[Nicky91]

matches of the tournament for me so far

France - Australia (am pretty much satisfied about the socceroos their own game apart from those defensive errors)

Belgium - Canada (yes i see potential in Canada against Morocco and Croatia, based on last nights match)

[Zizu]

Dodgy Penaldo


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[Zizu]

Yeah let’s just ignore that last second penalty claim for Ghana ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Zizu]

Ronaldo broke a record today. He has now dived in five straight World Cups


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[Zizu]

I did warn about the ridiculously lenient reffing .. allowing too many bad tackles to go unpunished !!

Then if someone is actually booked the manager just replaces them as they have 5 subs .

Last night Neymar was taken out as he ran through into the penalty box and the guy WAS booked as it was clearly deliberate and reckless .. he’s now possibly OUT of the World Cup :(
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[Zizu]

I thought the refs were clamping down on holding in the box when defenders weren’t looking at the ball ?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221125/d503656c09180712ccf425a2a89071bf.jpg


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[Zizu]

BBC showing all the horrendous tackles / assaults on the Welsh players .. not one given as a foul !!


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[Zizu]

Neymar and Danilo out for rest of group phase. Both with ankle ligament strains


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[Swan]

Neymar was poor in Brazil's first game, im not sure they'll miss him the group stages now anyway.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The extra time thing does seem to be working

[Zizu]

Neymar was poor in Brazil's first game, im not sure they'll miss him the group stages now anyway.


The ‘big’ names have all disappointed Messi , Cronaldo, Neymar and Bale spring to mind


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[Zizu]

These unpunished fouls / assaults are getting ridiculous now .


Dutch star striker Gakpo was nearly kicked off the field with a tackle from behind ..

Ref just played on .. the pour lad is limping now


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[Zizu]

Enner Valencia possibly out of the WC now and Gakpo also limping

The teams are obviously targeting the opposing teams main players


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[bots]

For me it's france, spain and brazil that are superior to the rest and one of them will win it

[Zizu]

For me it's france, spain and brazil that are superior to the rest and one of them will win it


Agreed

I said that exact same thing in the other thread

Argentina dark horses ..


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[Zizu]

So who is the fittest , strongest best organised team in the competition??

I need to put a bet on them to win the whole thing ..


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[bots]

from tomorrow, it's 2 game times a day only

[Zizu]

from tomorrow, it's 2 game times a day only


But of a higher quality .. hopefully


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