How would your social life be if bread (money) was no object?

[Redway]

On the one hand there are naturally different shades of (social) introversion and extraversion, meaning that some absolute Shylock-esque folk (Bill Gates and Kim. Kardashian being prime examples) don’t do that much spontaneous socialising when they’re not putting on a public appearance but for more ordinary folk (in that sense) money (or lack of, really) can stop people from going out and making connections they actually want to.

How outgoing would you be (at least on weekends/at happy hour) if you could afford to be as social or reclusive as you wanted to be?

[ThomasC]

Wouldn't really make much of a difference to me.

I have the money to go out, but often choose not to.

I've been traveling and will probably go New Zealand next year traveling again.

Money doesn't make me happy, but it helps to a degree. Happiness is my ultimate goal. Just to be happy and feel happy which, to be completely Frank, can be hard. That's what is most important because you can't buy that... Not for an extended period of time anyway

[Redway]

In the basic social sense of the term I’m pretty much an introvert-leaning ambivert. Meaning that I’m very okay and comfortable with my own company (and even prefer it a good six times out of ten) but that strong extroverted feeling I have gives me a quite a bit more of an outgoing edge in the social world than your typical introvert-introvert has. If I wasn’t up to my eyeballs in rent and day-to-day expenditures (which I can only barely afford at the moment) I’d probably socialise more at least every other weekend. But either way I can kind of take or allow it. It would just be nice to have the option sometimes and not have to work out how you’re going to live your best weekend on a £20 budget.

[thesheriff443]

Money doesn’t really come into it unless you are trying to buy your way into lifestyle that’s above your earnings

Staying in is the new going out

Going out into town you will come across some right idiots

[Redway]

Money doesn’t really come into it unless you are trying to buy your way into lifestyle that’s above your earnings

Staying in is the new going out

Going out into town you will come across some right idiots

“Staying in is the new going out.”

Some people have always been natural homebodies who just happen to get a slight urge to get out more on the weekends.

Idiots are everywhere. You can’t just not go into town for that reason alone. You’ve just got to be careful.

[thesheriff443]

“Staying in is the new going out.”

Some people have always been natural homebodies who just happen to get a slight urge to get out more on the weekends.

Idiots are everywhere. You can’t just not go into town for that reason alone. You’ve just got to be careful.

When you get older you can’t be bothered to deal or tolerate dick heads

You grow up clubs no longer appeal because your life has changed no need to ho out and meet people if you happy in a relationship and have a good circle of friends.

[thesheriff443]

I was going into London on Saturday but not now because of the train/tube strikes

We will go the following Saturday, me and my partner will walk around go to a few well know locations find some where to have lunch catch a show at the theatre go for a drink then dinner

That’s the kind of going out these days that interest’s me.

[Redway]

When you get older you can’t be bothered to deal or tolerate dick heads

You grow up clubs no longer appeal because your life has changed no need to ho out and meet people if you happy in a relationship and have a good circle of friends.

People who are naturally quite introverted have been living that life since they were kids/early teen’s. They don’t need a lecture in social maturity.

Someone who’s never particularly been about the club scene (and still less about random, flakey acquaintance-friends who want nothing more than a laugh at happy hour) low-key wishing they had more disposable so they could get out and see a bit more of the world (which could well be at the museum, a restaurant or low-key bar or Costa with a few good buddies) is fair enough. Take your patronising jibes out of this thread. You have no idea about the people you might be talking to.

[ThomasC]

Talking introvert/extrovert.

I would say I am both... Introverted extrovert. I can quite happily be on my own. I like socialising to a degree, but I can also find it exhausting and need my down time.

I do agree that staying in is the new going out... It's more Netflix and chill, takeaway.

It annoys me when people are like...what you doing this weekend or what you doing with your time off... Like I should be doing something or there's an expectation because I'm only 31 I should be out with friends or have plans.

People at work would probably say I don't stop talking, but that's not me in reality... I quite like my own space to doss about, watch YouTube, come on here and piss about and just do my own thing

[Redway]

I was going into London on Saturday but not now because of the train/tube strikes

We will go the following Saturday, me and my partner will walk around go to a few well know locations find some where to have lunch catch a show at the theatre go for a drink then dinner

That’s the kind of going out these days that interest’s me.

And that’ll do for you. For the naturally socially-reserved kind of persona that staid, quiet approach to life (weekday and weekend) isn’t something they need to grow into because that’s the world they live in most of the time anyway. Your assumption-premise is wrong on so many levels, dude.

[ThomasC]

People who are naturally quite introverted have been living that life since they were kids/early teen’s. They don’t need a lecture in social maturity.

Someone who’s never particularly been about the club scene (and still less about random, flakey acquaintance-friends who want nothing more than a laugh at happy hour) low-key wishing they had more disposable so they could get out and see a bit more of the world (which could well be at the museum, a restaurant or low-key bar or Costa with a few good buddies) is fair enough. Take your patronising jibes out of this thread. You have no idea about the people you might be talking to.

Calm down Karen

[thesheriff443]

You need to calm down son!
I was talking about people that I’ve grown up with, gone out with.

I wasn’t talking about you or people I don’t know.

[Redway]

Talking introvert/extrovert.

I would say I am both... Introverted extrovert. I can quite happily be on my own. I like socialising to a degree, but I can also find it exhausting and need my down time.

I do agree that staying in is the new going out... It's more Netflix and chill, takeaway.

It annoys me when people are like...what you doing this weekend or what you doing with your time off... Like I should be doing something or there's an expectation because I'm only 31 I should be out with friends or have plans.

People at work would probably say I don't stop talking, but that's not me in reality... I quite like my own space to doss about, watch YouTube, come on here and piss about and just do my own thing

I don’t know how many MBTI enthusiasts we have on here but just in case anyone might know what I’m on about, my personality type is like an eclectic blend of INFJ, ISTP, ENFP and reserved ENFJ.

In other words I’m a lot more content with far lesser social interaction than the average person (I have my own inner world to keep me company at the best of times) but I’m still pretty ambiverted. When the extroverted side of my personality isn’t being fulfilled on the same level as I’d like it to be because of limited funds it gets frustrating very quickly. Just because I’m used to the staid, somber approach to life doesn’t mean I want to live in that world 100% of the time (outside professional obligations).

[thesheriff443]

I don’t know how many MBTI enthusiasts we have on here but just in case anyone might know what I’m on about, my personality type is like an eclectic blend of INFJ, ISTP, ENFP and reserved ENFJ.

In other words I’m a lot more content with far lesser social interaction than the average person (I have my own inner world to keep me company at the best of times) but I’m still pretty ambiverted. When the extroverted side of my personality isn’t being fulfilled on the same level as I’d like it to be because of limited funds it gets frustrating very quickly. Just because I’m used to the staid, somber approach to life doesn’t mean I want to live in that world 100% of the time (outside professional obligations).

Your situation has nothing to do with me, I was talking about my own experiences
Stop thinking people are attacking you or putting you down.

[ThomasC]

I don’t know how many MBTI enthusiasts we have on here but just in case anyone might know what I’m on about, my personality type is like an eclectic blend of INFJ, ISTP, ENFP and reserved ENFJ.

In other words I’m a lot more content with far lesser social interaction than the average person (I have my own inner world to keep me company at the best of times) but I’m still pretty ambiverted. When the extroverted side of my personality isn’t being fulfilled on the same level as I’d like it to be because of limited funds it gets frustrating very quickly. Just because I’m used to the staid, somber approach to life doesn’t mean I want to live in that world 100% of the time (outside professional obligations).

I thought I was reading a script from line of duty for a second with all those acronyms.

Most of what you have said has gone over my head to be honest.

You basically want more money to be able to fulfill social events

[ThomasC]

My personality type is FIT.

I am as fit as a butcher's dog

[thesheriff443]

My personality type is FIT.

I am as fit as a butcher's dog

Who cocks his leg up and piss’s on lamp posts

[ThomasC]

Who cocks his leg up and piss’s on lamp posts

:nono:

I am the epitome of class. I would never do such a thing

[thesheriff443]

:nono:

I am the epitome of class. I would never do such a thing

Like you have never tryed putting you fist in your mouth.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don’t know how many MBTI enthusiasts we have on here but just in case anyone might know what I’m on about, my personality type is like an eclectic blend of INFJ, ISTP, ENFP and reserved ENFJ.

In other words I’m a lot more content with far lesser social interaction than the average person (I have my own inner world to keep me company at the best of times) but I’m still pretty ambiverted. When the extroverted side of my personality isn’t being fulfilled on the same level as I’d like it to be because of limited funds it gets frustrating very quickly. Just because I’m used to the staid, somber approach to life doesn’t mean I want to live in that world 100% of the time (outside professional obligations).

"my personality type is like an eclectic blend of INFJ, ISTP, ENFP and reserved ENFJ."

Id work on the chat-up lines if I were you :joker:

[hijaxers]

"my personality type is like an eclectic blend of INFJ, ISTP, ENFP and reserved ENFJ."

Id work on the chat-up lines if I were you :joker:

Yeah and sack meyers-briggs

[Zizu]

I’d be living a lovely chilled out life in Rhodes Old Town , Rhodes


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[Redway]

"my personality type is like an eclectic blend of INFJ, ISTP, ENFP and reserved ENFJ."

Id work on the chat-up lines if I were you :joker:

No-one’s chatting anyone up but you probably already knew that.

My thread, my comments. I’m allowed. Don’t ever talk to me about what I should ge saying and doing.

[Redway]

For every Jungian dunce there are two people who do understand it. You don’t like it, you don’t like it. Not my problem. I couldn’t care less.

What I won’t tolerate is the usual baiter-squad coming up into my line making semi-literate jibes about what I’m posting or boasting about how they’d rather work six-day weeks by default because they’re such workaholics that anyone else is lazy and entitled. Again, I don’t care about what you’re doing and I didn’t ask. Why follow people around in every thread just to bait and and try gaslight them?

Here again you probably don’t know the meaning of half of those words but reading comprehension isn’t one of your strong points so it’s whatever.

[Redway]

And LeatherTrumpet, I’d appreciate it if you could just stay out of all my threads going forward. I can’t control what you do or where you otherwise post but your round-the-clock senseless baiting isn’t something I want to have to keep entertaining. You’re the last person I want to actually hear an opinion from.

If that time comes I’ll send you a private message but it never will. I’m not your number one fan and never have been. I don’t want to know about your 12-day weeks and how dope haggis is. To me all that stuff is straight over my head and again no-one tends to ask you.

Don’t move mad to me, man. I’m not your buddy.

[Redway]

Your situation has nothing to do with me, I was talking about my own experiences
Stop thinking people are attacking you or putting you down.

When bait like LT pop up out of nowhere telling me to work on my chat-up lines as I talk about weekend plans with people who don’t concern him and things that are over his head anyway, that’s ultimately what it boils down to. I know this site doesn’t like to set boundaries (otherwise there’d be a lot more bans) but every person has the right to set them for themselves without feeling like an arsehole. One boundary I’m setting is with LeatherTrumpet (after years of his rubbish, and I know I’m not the only one). If I want him to respect them, he’s going to have to because it’s my line to draw. My line and mine alone.

I don’t get why random haggis-bait members act like unprecedented geniuses who drop borderline-racist jibes all the time and have ultimate authority over everyone else’s thoughts and daily activities. Let him stay out of my line and respect himself for a change.

[ThomasC]

Are you feeling low Redway?

[smudgie]

Absolutely no difference.
I don’t get out much, don’t worry about it and get on with life.
I have everything in life I need and want (apart from better health of course)
We have enough money to do whatever we like at our age.
I suppose if we won the lottery we could let our daughter pack in work and travel the world etc..we all need a little dream.🙂
I recognise all your letters Redway, my son is interested in all that stuff, can’t say I remember exactly what they all are, but they are not to be scoffed at.

[Redway]

@ThomasC

More just frustrated with well-known bait popping up and making jibes at members they don’t like or agree with. But that’s been going on for years and years so ultimately someone’s going to have to take it on themselves to set boundaries and not allow themselves to be continually-gaslit by members they don’t want anything to do with in the first place. I’m going to bet that most people on this forum doesn’t really understand the concept of boundaries and gaslighting but they’re real phenomena that happen every day and when no-one else is setting boundaries for you, you’ve got every right to set them for yourself.

My mood has nothing to do with it and bringing that up is even another form of gaslighting but the terminology is probably over your head (again) so I’m not going to bring out a psychological thesaurus trying to make people understand. That’s for you to go off and look at in your own time (if you can be arsed). Either way boundaries are boundaries. Sternly-setting them (especially when you keep bringing up the same complaints but keep getting ignored, just like everyone who was abused by michael21 was ignored until the site finally did the right thing) doesn’t make you a psychologically-unstable dickhead. It just means you know your worth as a person (on a level) and aren’t scared of making it known what it is you will and won’t tolerate. People who are good at setting boundaries couldn’t care less about seeming depressed or crazy in the moment.

[Redway]

Absolutely no difference.
I don’t get out much, don’t worry about it and get on with life.
I have everything in life I need and want (apart from better health of course)
We have enough money to do whatever we like at our age.
I suppose if we won the lottery we could let our daughter pack in work and travel the world etc..we all need a little dream.🙂
I recognise all your letters Redway, my son is interested in all that stuff, can’t say I remember exactly what they all are, but they are not to be scoffed at.

Where would you travel? :hug:

[thesheriff443]

And LeatherTrumpet, I’d appreciate it if you could just stay out of all my threads going forward. I can’t control what you do or where you otherwise post but your round-the-clock senseless baiting isn’t something I want to have to keep entertaining. You’re the last person I want to actually hear an opinion from.

If that time comes I’ll send you a private message but it never will. I’m not your number one fan and never have been. I don’t want to know about your 12-day weeks and how dope haggis is. To me all that stuff is straight over my head and again no-one tends to ask you.

Don’t move mad to me, man. I’m not your buddy.

Sounds like you got a chip on your shoulder, what you will have is people won’t bother posting in the threads you make because you got a sense of entitlement

My advice, stop feeling sorry for yourself and do something about it
Also lay of the weed because it’s clearly making you paranoid.

[Redway]

Sounds like you got a chip in your shoulder, what you will have is people won’t bother posting in the threads you make because you got a sense of entitlement

My advice, stop feeling sorry for yourself and do something about it
Also lay of the weed because it’s clearly making you paranoid.

It’s more the boundary-less who have a sense of entitlement. Making erroneous assumptions about people’s motivations (especially when you’ve admitted you don’t know them for toffee) is a clear-cut manifestation of it. But you wouldn’t know the first thing about any of these things. All this gaslighting that you’re doing now is exactly what I’m talking about. It’s like you’re not even trying to come across as anything other than entitled and toxic. Giving people useless advice when you don’t know the first thing about what their life situation is or what they’re actually doing (beyond the occasional bits you come across on the forum that end up being grossly-exaggerated by people who’ll only see and believe what they want to) is a form of entitled over-extending and anyone who knows the first thing about the real meaning of boundaries and entitlement will tell you that.

“Sounds like you got a chip on your shoulder.”

Your opinions are the product of your own personal experiences (that goes for people in general) and we couldn’t be more different as people. So of course your opinion of my intentions and feelings are going to be distorted by your own experiences. That doesn’t hold space for mine and going about your life with that assumptionary premise doesn’t do anyone any favours. Sometimes you have to actually know someone before you can say anything about them that counts.

[smudgie]

Where would you travel? :hug:

I don’t yearn to travel, but I would love to give our hardworking daughter the chance to do what she really wanted in life.
Even a couple of months travelling the world would be great.
She is more into the art and culture of different countries rather than big hotels and beaches.

[Redway]

I don’t yearn to travel, but I would love to give our hardworking daughter the chance to do what she really wanted in life.
Even a couple of months travelling the world would be great.
She is more into the art and culture of different countries rather than big hotels and beaches.

Mhm, I’m quite the connoisseur for hotels and beaches but there’s something about the artsy, culture-savvy approach to life that has a lot to recommend. So in that sense I don’t blame her.

Do you have a particular weekend routine (out of interest) or do you just tend to go with the flow?

[smudgie]

Mhm, I’m quite the connoisseur for hotels and beaches but there’s something about the artsy, culture-savvy approach to life that has a lot to recommend. So in that sense I don’t blame her.

Do you have a particular weekend routine (out of interest) or do you just tend to go with the flow?

Weekends are only different to the rest of the week in that we don’t have our wonderful little Granddog to keep us company.
Everyday is pretty much the same, our door is open to friends and family all week.
Daughter will pop round and cook a roast some times to give her dad a break.

[Redway]

Weekends are only different to the rest of the week in that we don’t have our wonderful little Granddog to keep us company.
Everyday is pretty much the same, our door is open to friends and family all week.
Daughter will pop round and cook a roast some times to give her dad a break.

Ah, I see. Living arrangements kind of play into my day-to-day activities as well but in my case it’s more the converse (housemates I don’t particularly like anymore being noisy and taking up lots of space throughout the week but not so much on the weekend, so in that sense I actually get to breathe and enjoy the peace and quiet on Saturdays).

It’s nice of your daughter to pop round and help with that on a Sunday. She sounds like a really hard-working girl.

[Redway]

I try and take advantage of the free kitchen I’m pretty much guaranteed across the weekend and try and cook as much as I can between Friday evenings and Saturday night (not all at the same time, obviously). I wouldn’t mind a bit of company in the kitchen (from someone who doesn’t live here) but I’m pretty zen just quietly hanging out in the kitchen and bulk-cooking.

I think one of the reasons I dread the early part of the week so much these days is because that’s when my housemates tend to come out of hiding and be noisy/hog the kitchen for 15 hours at a time. I actually liked them in the beginning when they were a bit more chill/respectful but at this point I find myself having to repeat myself about basic house-rules/courtesy so much that I just take them for being incredibly obnoxious, entitled and inconsiderate. We used to entertain a bit of mutual food-sharing when they were calmer but it’s a very different situation now. At the moment I’m torn between wanting enough time to myself in the kitchen on the weekends so I can cook whatever it is I’m trying to bulk-cook in peace and actually wanting them to take more advantage of the free space at that time of the week so that come Monday/Tuesday they’re too worn-out from constantly hanging out/being noisy and mellow it down during the most difficult days of the week so I can work in peace and come home to a chill space. I dunno. I think I just need a studio flat. Either way I’ve reached that point in my life where I hate having housemates (at least very extraverted/loud ones).

More than feeling low I just feel trapped in my own space throughout the week and coupled with the daily stresses of life it’s just a lot.

[ThomasC]

@ThomasC

More just frustrated with well-known bait popping up and making jibes at members they don’t like or agree with. But that’s been going on for years and years so ultimately someone’s going to have to take it on themselves to set boundaries and not allow themselves to be continually-gaslit by members they don’t want anything to do with in the first place. I’m going to bet that most people on this forum doesn’t really understand the concept of boundaries and gaslighting but they’re real phenomena that happen every day and when no-one else is setting boundaries for you, you’ve got every right to set them for yourself.

My mood has nothing to do with it and bringing that up is even another form of gaslighting but the terminology is probably over your head (again) so I’m not going to bring out a psychological thesaurus trying to make people understand. That’s for you to go off and look at in your own time (if you can be arsed). Either way boundaries are boundaries. Sternly-setting them (especially when you keep bringing up the same complaints but keep getting ignored, just like everyone who was abused by michael21 was ignored until the site finally did the right thing) doesn’t make you a psychologically-unstable dickhead. It just means you know your worth as a person (on a level) and aren’t scared of making it known what it is you will and won’t tolerate. People who are good at setting boundaries couldn’t care less about seeming depressed or crazy in the moment.

**** sake.

I asked you out of concern.

You are quick to jump on people.

I don't think a forum is the place for you where others have opinions.

Sheriff said **** all that was wrong and yet you took it personally.


If you're questioning your own reality then you're doing it to yourself through your actions and insecurity.

No one is out to get you yet you think they are.

[ThomasC]

And what LT said was clearly a joke. Anyone could spot that a mile off. Lighten up. The problem is with yourself, not others... Certainly not anything I have read on this thread and neither your other one is gaslighting. You're making yourself a victim

[Zizu]

I recall someone interviewing Richard Branson asked him the best part of being so wealthy..

He said it was getting up in the morning knowing you can do whatever you want ...


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[Crimson Dynamo]

No-one’s chatting anyone up but you probably already knew that.

My thread, my comments. I’m allowed. Don’t ever talk to me about what I should ge saying and doing.

And LeatherTrumpet, I’d appreciate it if you could just stay out of all my threads going forward. I can’t control what you do or where you otherwise post but your round-the-clock senseless baiting isn’t something I want to have to keep entertaining. You’re the last person I want to actually hear an opinion from.

If that time comes I’ll send you a private message but it never will. I’m not your number one fan and never have been. I don’t want to know about your 12-day weeks and how dope haggis is. To me all that stuff is straight over my head and again no-one tends to ask you.

Don’t move mad to me, man. I’m not your buddy.

And what LT said was clearly a joke. Anyone could spot that a mile off. Lighten up. The problem is with yourself, not others... Certainly not anything I have read on this thread and neither your other one is gaslighting. You're making yourself a victim

very aggressive

:umm2:

too much ganja as the sheriff says

[Redway]

**** sake.

I asked you out of concern.

You are quick to jump on people.

I don't think a forum is the place for you where others have opinions.

Sheriff said **** all that was wrong and yet you took it personally.


If you're questioning your own reality then you're doing it to yourself through your actions and insecurity.

No one is out to get you yet you think they are.

Where LeatherTrumpet’s concerned you don’t know the half of it. You’d be shocked at the racial gaslighting he’s put forth on here over the years but then again considering where we are, many people defend him and see his jokes as harmless. That’s on them but ultimately I’ve got the right to set boundaries as-and-where I see fit without being painted as a paranoid, unstable meanie. You’re free to make all manner of assumptions you want (which is another one of the things I’m talking about) but other people are entitled to voice dissatisfaction when everything they say is invalidated by random people. Again, this forum isn’t the most boundary-savvy so I don’t expect tons of people to understand but it is what it is.

To date you’ve lost the most cool by kicking off and swearing for no reason other than that you didn’t like someone setting a boundary with someone else. And to be honest another boundary that I’m going to set is re. the crux of this conversation. I didn’t make this thread to go off in a disgruntled, rambling manner about boundaries and entitlement (conversation for another day) so it stops here. And ultimately it’s my thread (again) so I get to draw that line. Any more comments about this are just going to get ignored. The last thing I’m going to say is that the reactions from you, LT and sheriff are just prime elucidation of all the points I’ve been making and when there are people who study PhDs in this sort of thing and make it marketable for anyone who’s interested enough it’s just confirmed that I couldn’t be less in the wrong here. Any more reactions on your sides are just playing straight into the book. It’s more funny than anything else at this point. But like I said this is where it stops.

[ThomasC]

Where LeatherTrumpet’s concerned you don’t know the half of it. You’d be shocked at the racial gaslighting he’s put forth on here over the years but then again considering where we are, many people defend him and see his jokes as harmless. That’s on them but ultimately I’ve got the right to set boundaries as-and-where I see fit without being painted as a paranoid, unstable meanie. You’re free to make all manner of assumptions you want (which is another one of the things I’m talking about) but other people are entitled to voice dissatisfaction when everything they say is invalidated by random people. Again, this forum isn’t the most boundary-savvy so I don’t expect tons of people to understand but it is what it is.

To date you’ve lost the most cool by kicking off and swearing for no reason other than that you didn’t like someone setting a boundary with someone else. And to be honest another boundary that I’m going to set is re. the crux of this conversation. I didn’t make this thread to go off in a disgruntled, rambling manner about boundaries and entitlement (conversation for another day) so it stops here. And ultimately it’s my thread (again) so I get to draw that line. Any more comments about this are just going to get ignored.

I've never witnessed such irrational behaviour on a forum before

Quite bewildering tbh :laugh:

Boundaries? What on earth are you going on about?

This isn't super nanny, go sit in the corner.

You flew off the hinge after you made a thread and someone commented on their experience/opinion.... You then flew off again because someone happened to make a light hearted joke.

[Redway]

Two final words: Dr Ramani.

In the meantime you’re free to keep playing into the book but you’re not showing yourself up in the most favourable light.

“What on Earth are you going on about?”

Anyone who doesn’t understand the concept of boundaries and dismisses it as nanny-state stuff isn’t worth engaging with until they take the initiative to educate themselves better but that’s not a job for this thread, nor is it mine altogether. That’s all I’m going to say at this point. This back-and-forth stops here.

[Liam-]

You do this in every thread you make, you kick off at people who don’t see things precisely as you do, if you can’t handle other peoples opinions, stop asking for them on a public forum

[ThomasC]

Two final words: Dr Ramani.

In the meantime you’re free to keep playing into the book but you’re not showing yourself up in the most favourable light. Anyway, I’m done.

Dr Ramani my arse.

How have I made you question your reality or beliefs?

You are making no sense.

You are extremely neurotic hence why I asked you whether you were feeling low

[ThomasC]

Two final words: Dr Ramani.

In the meantime you’re free to keep playing into the book but you’re not showing yourself up in the most favourable light.

“What on Earth are you going on about?”

Anyone who doesn’t understand the concept of boundaries and dismisses it as nanny-state stuff isn’t worth engaging with until they take the initiative to educate themselves better but that’s not a job for this thread, nor is it mine altogether. That’s all I’m going to say at this point. This back-and-forth stops here.

Believe you me, I know about boundaries. :joker:

[Redway]

You do this in every thread you make, you kick off at people who don’t see things precisely as you do, if you can’t handle other peoples opinions, stop asking for them on a public forum

There’s a way to politely-disagree without making jibes that aren’t funny and clearly intended to bait. LT’s been like this for years and I’m not the only one to have this issue with him but it’s whatever. There’s little point going back-and-forth with complete strangers about stuff that they’re probably never going to understand anyway.

[Redway]

Dr Ramani my arse.

How have I made you question your reality or beliefs?

You are making no sense.

You are extremely neurotic hence why I asked you whether you were feeling low

“Dr Ramani my arse.”

“I say I know the first thing about boundaries but dismiss it as nanny-state stuff all the same.”

“You set a boundary and that makes you extremely neurotic. I’m going to gaslight and pathologise you just because I don’t understand the point you’re making with my own limited purview of experience.”

I could go on all day. But I’m not going to because none of us really know each other so going back and forth with random people who aren’t going to understand things the way you do is a waste of time.

[ThomasC]

“Dr Ramani my arse.”

“I say I know the first thing about boundaries but dismiss it as nanny-state stuff all the same.”

“You set a boundary and that makes you extremely neurotic. I’m going to gaslight and pathologise you just because I don’t understand the point you’re making with my own limited purview of experience.”

I could go on all day.

Carry on. I can't work out whether you're trolling or just not quite well in yourself

[Redway]

Lol.

https://youtu.be/xI-VR6Pxrvc

I’m leaving this video here and leaving it at that.

[Cherie]

Absolutely no different to how it is now, as you get older you tend to limit socialising to what you like and who you like not go out because the expectation is you should be out doing things every weekend

[Liam-]

There’s a way to politely-disagree without making jibes that aren’t funny and clearly intended to bait. LT’s been like this for years and I’m not the only one to have this issue with him but it’s whatever. There’s little point going back-and-forth with complete strangers about stuff that they’re probably never going to understand anyway.

You kicked off at someone for their opinion before LT commented though?

[ThomasC]

Money doesn’t really come into it unless you are trying to buy your way into lifestyle that’s above your earnings

Staying in is the new going out

Going out into town you will come across some right idiots

"my personality type is like an eclectic blend of INFJ, ISTP, ENFP and reserved ENFJ."

Id work on the chat-up lines if I were you :joker:

Are you feeling low Redway?

I have watched some of that video on gaslighting.

Please tell me how any of the three quoted comments is gaslighting? You can't because it is not gaslighting.

Sheriff's post was his personal opinion... LTs was a joke and mine was asking if you felt low.

How do any of those three comments make you doubt your reality or beliefs? How are any of those 3 comments abuse? How are any of those 3 comments manipulation?

They DONT and ARENT And if you still think they do then you need to seek some professional help, maybe some CBT to try and restructure your thought processes because it's certainly not normal.

Unlike you, as you have said repeatedly now that it's your last words on the subject, will not continue to fuel this fire of yours.

Good luck whatever you decide to do.

[Redway]

Lol.

https://youtu.be/xI-VR6Pxrvc

I’m leaving this video here and leaving it at that.

.

Like I said that’s where I want to leave it. That’s another boundary I’m setting. I admit I might’ve been a little hasty with sherrif nearer the top of this thread but that’s all I’m going to concede on.

[Redway]

I have watched some of that video on gaslighting.

Please tell me how any of the three quoted comments is gaslighting? You can't because it is not gaslighting.

Sheriff's post was his personal opinion... LTs was a joke and mine was asking if you felt low.

How do any of those three comments make you doubt your reality or beliefs? How are any of those 3 comments abuse? How are any of those 3 comments manipulation?

They DONT and ARENT And if you still think they do then you need to seek some professional help, maybe some CBT to try and restructure your thought processes because it's certainly not normal.

Unlike you, as you have said repeatedly now that it's your last words on the subject, will not continue to fuel this fire of yours.

Good luck whatever you decide to do.

This is exactly what we’re talking about. At the end of the day my reality is my reality and yours is yours. No-one else’s. Without knowing the context of the forum relation between me and LT you’re not getting the full picture and it’s not aligned with your own version of reality but my perceptions are as relevant to me as yours are. If I’m annoyed with someone for baiting (again) I have a right to say so. Whether you understand or not is unnecessary for my peace of mind because it’s nothing to do with you. There’s no point asking me how or why I’ve felt personally-attacked (not even attacked but just for the sake of linguistic simplicity and to use your words). I don’t have to share that with you if I don’t want to because it’s personal to me. But what I did want to do is set a boundary with LeatherTrumpet in the form of him not commenting on my threads going forward (just like Livia did with kizzy many moons ago) because his replies don’t bring meaning or stimulation to anything I say.

The reason I was so annoyed with sherrif earlier on was because it came across to me like he was making assumptions about my own social life (which is something that just doesn’t mesh well with me, for reasons I’m not going to get into with total strangers on a public forum but ultimately have nothing to do with any of the blatantly-bait-y suggestions put forth by other people). He clarified and I should’ve conceded with (and apologised to) him there-and-then but LT came along and that’s where most of my conversational energy ended up having to be directed. I’ll apologise to him for getting the wrong end of the stick with him but at the end of the day anyone who’s lived a day in my shoes would understand why I took offence to it at first.

Other than that we’ve clearly got nothing to say to each other. Going forward don’t tell me to seek therapy for setting boundaries with a toxic member I’ve never liked and who’s made sickening comments over the years but gets away with it all the time because he’s assumed to be harmless.

And when someone sends you a video, try and watch all of it before commenting, not just the first three minutes. You’re never going to get the full context of my personal motivations for saying certain things and moving to certain FMs in a certain way because I’m not one to share my personal life even with people I do know (let alone strangers) but when someone’s giving you context for free you might as well take advantage of it and hear the person out in full. It doesn’t take more than 15 minutes, really. You’re free to gaslight and pathologise experiences which doesn’t resonate with yours but that won’t get you far. And it’s clearly not normal.

[Beso]

I don’t know how many MBTI enthusiasts we have on here but just in case anyone might know what I’m on about, my personality type is like an eclectic blend of INFJ, ISTP, ENFP and reserved ENFJ.

In other words I’m a lot more content with far lesser social interaction than the average person (I have my own inner world to keep me company at the best of times) but I’m still pretty ambiverted. When the extroverted side of my personality isn’t being fulfilled on the same level as I’d like it to be because of limited funds it gets frustrating very quickly. Just because I’m used to the staid, somber approach to life doesn’t mean I want to live in that world 100% of the time (outside professional obligations).



If you talk to sherrif Tue same way you talk to yourself in your own head. It wont get you anywhere in life.

[Redway]

Dont talk to others like sherrif the same way you talk to yourself in your own head. It wont get you anywhere in life.

Again, your own perception of life is based on your experiences and relationships. The people I talk to about these things have a real understanding of stuff like this and that’s alright. If I over-extend on the knowledge factor, it’s not exactly crime or the century and it shouldn’t be a big deal. Just respectfully read/fail to understand it and keep it pushing.

Having that kind of Jungian extraordinare approach (which pops up every now and then but not as a rule) might not win me favours in your corner but I’m not really interested in your corner so that doesn’t make any odds to me. Not having an understanding of something doesn’t mean the other person’s a geek with no life. It just means you have different experiences in life and aren’t honed-in on the same stuff.

[Redway]

Being respectful when it comes to other people’s outlooks on life (as niche as they might seem to you), on the other hand, is something that’ll take you far in life and there could’ve been more of that on this thread. But we’ve argued the bones off of that to the point of serious derailment so let’s not keep barking up that tree.

[Beso]

Again, your own perception of life is based on your experiences and relationships. The people I talk to about these things have a real understanding of stuff like this and that’s alright. If I over-extend on the knowledge factor, it’s not exactly crime or the century and it shouldn’t be a big deal. Just respectfully read/fail to understand it and keep it pushing.

Having that kind of Jungian extraordinare approach (which pops up every now and then but not as a rule) might not win me favours in your corner but I’m not really interested in your corner so that doesn’t make any odds to me. Not having an understanding of something doesn’t mean the other person’s a geek with no life. It just means you have different experiences in life and aren’t honed-in on the same stuff.



But in life in general, a my way or the high way attitude, coupled with intolerance and an aggresive response to general day to day conversation like the first few posts sherrif made, just wont get you anywhere.

It's not my life experience, it's pure and simple life experience..

Your attitude you displayed on page one! Well when you are trying to have this same conversation and discussion in a pub or whatever! Well all I can say each time you have enough cash to further your life experiences, with that attitude to others the extra will only make things worse.

[Redway]

But in life in general, a my way or the high way attitude, coupled with intolerance and an aggresive response to general day to day conversation like the first few posts sherrif made, just wont get you anywhere.

It's not my life experience, it's pure and simple life experience..

Your attitude you displayed on page one! Well when you are trying to have this same conversation and discussion in a pub or whatever! Well all I can say each time you have enough cash to further your life experiences, with that attitude to others the extra will only make things worse.

Again, I’ve explained my point of view several times and I said I didn’t want this thread to be derailed any further so all I can say to all that is “okay.”

[Beso]

I guess it wouldnt matter if you won tonight's lottery...my way or the high way could easily work out.

But people would talk behind your back.

[Redway]

Okay. People are going to talk regardless of what you’re saying and doing but okay. Okay.

And I’d argue making subtle jibes (as pseudo-humorously-coloured as they might be) just because certain experiences aren’t understood by the other party/comes across as over their head is pretty intolerant but okay.

See what I mean?

That’s why I don’t play to the gossip-book. Other people’s experiences are going to shape their perceptions of you but they tend to be more of a reflection on them than you if they don’t actually know you that personally. You can either say your bit, concede if need be and just keep it pushing or bump a tired argument and ridicule someone else’s philosophies just because you’re not in line with yours or you don’t understand them. Life in general would be easier if we didn’t feel like we had to censor ourselves in such a hypocritical manner all the time just to please strangers.

Again, all I’m saying at this point is a big, fat okay.

[Beso]

Yes but it's always better having them saying nice things rather than calling you an arrogant twat.

[Redway]

Okay, pal. Okay.

[Redway]

Still shagging your brother?

[Beso]

I hope you never get enough money to go out further than the local park with a 4 pack, for your own safety.

[Redway]

Okay. In between telling us how your Ijebu friend’s wife’s food sucked at that BBQ just to spite people, being a known alkie and openly-admitting to doing the dirty with your own brother there are tons of things you’ve said over the years that make it hard to take you seriously as a voice of morality and uniform life experiences but you do you.

I don’t do 4-packs at the park. It might be alright for you but I’ve actually got principles and a certain degree of class. You won’t find me in the middle of Essex in the morning looking for a house-party well into my 50s. Not my style.

[Redway]

Also, expressing a bit of natural wanting to have the resources to do more outdoors-y stuff on the weekend doesn’t make me dirt-poor. It just means I’ve got my priorities in check life-wise but wouldn’t mind exploring a bit more. That just makes me a responsible person in a somewhat tight temporary situation. It doesn’t erode me of class and high standards altogether. Far from it.

Again, it’s best not to make assumptions about strangers. I bet you haven’t seen the inside of a Waitrose or even big Asda in a while (if ever) but those are some of my niche spots I shop at from time to time. Park-bencher I couldn’t be any further-removed from. But you’re welcome to talk about yourself and your own dirty habits. Just don’t think everyone’s the same as you. By all means call me arrogant, passive-aggressive, intolerant and the full works. Side with prejudiced trolls. But at the end of the day people’s perceptions about you should carry the same weight as their interpersonal proximity with you and we don’t know each other from a bottle of milk so speculating about people’s characters won’t get you far. Especially when there’s so much dirt on you.

[Beso]

Okay. In between telling us how your Ijebu friend’s wife’s food sucked at that BBQ just to spite people, being a known alkie and openly-admitting to doing the dirty with your own brother there are tons of things you’ve said over the years that make it hard to take you seriously as a voice of morality and uniform life experiences but you do you.

I don’t do 4-packs at the park. It might be alright for you but I’ve actually got principles and a certain degree of class. You won’t find me in the middle of Essex in the morning looking for a house-party well into my 50s. Not my style.

It wasnt the food...if you remember correctly it was the African non alcoholic guiness type drink..which was rank. A known alky, fair enough ai like a drink, and took my fair share during covid, but I still worked monday to friday keeping many many Londoners happy. ..the brother things funny, and strange as I only remember posting his photo and saying how handsome he was.

As for me trying to be righteous about life morals, you are wrong, I was trying to give you some friendly advice, wish I hadnt, and wished I had trusted my very first opinion on you, cause you are indeed a pathetic ****.

You wont find me wandering essex for a party, maybe some east London roundabouts after a house party, but that's just having a good night in my eyes..A story worthy of telling..

We could all sit in a park on a sunny day with certain makes of lager in our hands and ask tibb what they think of them....but that's a bit tacky and scummy imo..

If your going to go for it, dont waste it in a park during it..save that for when the experience takes you there at the end of it....most of all dont ignore your surroundings whilst out there just to post on tibb, unless it's a train journey.

And also, grow the **** up and respect your elders..didnt belt you hard enough, did they.

[Redway]

Again, you don’t know me well enough to tell me who I am. Your opinions about me are as relevant as the Sahara Desert is to Antarctica.

But feel free to go off. Okay?

[Beso]

I know your parents failed you by not beating some respect into you.

[Redway]

You don’t know nothing.

Respect is earned. Drop racist jibes in the name of harmless bait and take up a tone of unwarranted condescension and you won’t get a drop of respect from me. It has to be earned. I don’t care how old or young you are.

[Redway]

Again, you only know what you know. Between us it’s just assumptions and ignorance. You don’t know the first thing about me.

[Beso]

Almighty God, I ask you to send your angels to be with me in this place, and protect me from all assaults of the Evil One. Please forgive any wrong that has been perpetuated in this room, and grant those who offend you the grace of conversion. Dispel the powers of darkness that may be in this room and protect me this night, and those who will sleep here in the forthcoming nights. Jesus, I trust in You!

[Redway]

Okay.

[Redway]

I’m obviously not accepting that friend request either.

How low can you stoop in one night?

[Beso]

I’m obviously not accepting that friend request either.

How low can you stoop in one night?

I only did it cause you seem to have fallen out with yourself tonight and decided to take it out on others..felt bad for you losing your only friend
.

[Redway]

There’s never been a time on here where I considered you to be anything like a forum buddy, let alone friend. Try not to flatter yourself.

That doesn’t mean I don’t think you’re an okay chap deep down. But let’s just respect ourselves in the meantime. M’kay?

[Redway]

Then again there’s no harm in actually getting to know someone a bit better and letting go of old pain and frustration.

I might just be prepared to give you a chance. Let’s just draw a line under all this because it’s actually given me a headache.

By the way, the drink you’re talking about is Malta Guinness and I agree that it’s not terribly-palatable (I don’t mind it but it’s not my favourite). You might want to try Supermalt. Your local Tesco will have it if you’re lucky.

[user104658]

This thread was just the rollercoaster I needed to perk me up for work this morning. Who needs coffee?

Anyway, on the thread topic, my youngest daughter has complex learning disabilities and language issues meaning that without very specialist childcare, only me and my wife (and her school… ish) can actually look after her. If I was mega-rich we would probably have a specialist nanny of some sort. And then we could socialise AT ALL, rather than pretty much zero :joker:.

[Beso]

Then again there’s no harm in actually getting to know someone a bit better and letting go of old pain and frustration.

I just might be prepared to give you a chance. Let’s just draw a line under all this because it’s actually given me a headache.

By the way, the drink you’re talking about is Malta Guinness and I agree that it’s not terribly-palatable (I don’t mind it but it’s not my favourite). You might want to try Supermalt. Your local Tesco will have it if you’re lucky.


Heavenly Father, thank You. Thank You for being everything to me and for me. You are faithful! You are concerned with everything that concerns me. I am grateful for Your Holy Spirit that comforts me during times of fear and doubt. Thank You for everything that You’ve done for me; seen and unseen. I will praise Your name, forever! In Jesus’ name, Amen.

[ThomasC]

I know your parents failed you by not beating some respect into you.

Below the belt.

This thread was just the rollercoaster I needed to perk me up for work this morning. Who needs coffee?

Anyway, on the thread topic, my youngest daughter has complex learning disabilities and language issues meaning that without very specialist childcare, only me and my wife (and her school… ish) can actually look after her. If I was mega-rich we would probably have a specialist nanny of some sort. And then we could socialise AT ALL, rather than pretty much zero :joker:.

Section 17?

Important that you have time to socialise and have time out.

Just my opinion btw before you tell me I must be qualified to suggest one.

[Cherie]

This is the plot twist we waited all our lives for, a Parmy and Redway bromance

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is the plot twist we waited all our lives for, a Parmy and Redway bromance

I had a starring role early on in the thread and was adroitly cast alongside Sherrif but got written out in page 3 and parmy got all the best lines and stories


:oh:

[Cherie]

I had a starring role early on in the thread and was adroitly cast alongside Sherrif but got written out in page 3 and parmy got all the best lines and stories


:oh:

:laugh:

[user104658]

Section 17?

Important that you have time to socialise and have time out.

Just my opinion btw before you tell me I must be qualified to suggest one.

We don't have (or want) significant social work involvement and it takes her a long time to get to know/trust someone enough for them to care for her without causing her significant stress. The care that a council will provide is, for one, often lacklustre but more importantly it's just "whoever is available" - she would need the same person that she knows & trusts each time and local councils just don't have the resources to offer that.

It's not that we can't socialise at all - we can EACH socialise (lunch and a few drinks with friends, etc.) but it would be nice to be able to socialise together as well. We get plenty of time together as a couple as we're both 9 - 5 workers, so we have every evening together, it would just be good to actually be able to go out for dinner or go places as a couple occasionally.

Not sustainable forever to be fair and we'll likely need to look at care support as she gets older, but she's only 9 so at the moment there's more priority on keeping her regulated and as anxiety-free as possible which means only leaving her with people she knows and trusts. The only family member we've ever been able to leave her with is my sister and she lives 2.5 hours (and a boat ride) away so that's been for "events" (awards ceremonies, weddings, etc.) rather than a regular thing.

But yeah on the thread topic, if money was no object I'd totally hire a full-time staff member and palm her off on them regularly :joker:.

[ThomasC]

We don't have (or want) significant social work involvement and it takes her a long time to get to know/trust someone enough for them to care for her without causing her significant stress. The care that a council will provide is, for one, often lacklustre but more importantly it's just "whoever is available" - she would need the same person that she knows & trusts each time and local councils just don't have the resources to offer that.

It's not that we can't socialise at all - we can EACH socialise (lunch and a few drinks with friends, etc.) but it would be nice to be able to socialise together as well. We get plenty of time together as a couple as we're both 9 - 5 workers, so we have every evening together, it would just be good to actually be able to go out for dinner or go places as a couple occasionally.

Not sustainable forever to be fair and we'll likely need to look at care support as she gets older, but she's only 9 so at the moment there's more priority on keeping her regulated and as anxiety-free as possible which means only leaving her with people she knows and trusts. The only family member we've ever been able to leave her with is my sister and she lives 2.5 hours (and a boat ride) away so that's been for "events" (awards ceremonies, weddings, etc.) rather than a regular thing.

But yeah on the thread topic, if money was no object I'd totally hire a full-time staff member and palm her off on them regularly :joker:.

Yeah I get all of that.

Recruitment of PAs can be a nightmare. A lot of people don't want to do it or the individual is too complex for PAs to manage.... Continuity is a big issue which you mention. Not enough resources.

Short breaks is an option, but again, like you say, getting regular and familiar staff at the minute is just really difficult....even more so at the minute with a lot of places using agency....some not even fit to work in social care and can struggle to speak English and understand it.

Sounds like you manage it very well.

Yeah if money was no object then quite a lot of problems would be resolved. You'd entice more people to want to actually do the job, you'd have more resources and access to help, you'd have services that haven't been cut. At the minute, resources are often put more into profound and severe needs and a lot go under the radar. LA just RAG rate, but what else are you suppose to do.

[Redway]

I hate overly-outgoing people who hone in on the social/private lives of other people (usually people they don’t even know that well) and assume they’re depressed or socially-anxious-avoidant just because they’re not being as gregarious and outgoing as they’d like them to be. Even when money’s not an object many people have quiet intellectual hobbies and tight curated circles of time-tested friends. They’d rather just stay in that lane and play to their comforts in peace than put on an act for people who’ve decided that X is too reclusive for their liking. Not minding your own business when it comes to stuff like that won’t get you far but so many people out there just don’t get it.

That’s not to say that any personally type can’t be depressed (in any shade or form) or socially-anxious but many people seem to conflate social introversion with them and it just doesn’t help anybody. Unless it’s obvious that they’re actually not well, they’re probably just fine. The only reason they’re not cool is people telling them that their quiet lifestyle isn’t cool.

[Redway]

This thread was just the rollercoaster I needed to perk me up for work this morning. Who needs coffee?

Anyway, on the thread topic, my youngest daughter has complex learning disabilities and language issues meaning that without very specialist childcare, only me and my wife (and her school… ish) can actually look after her. If I was mega-rich we would probably have a specialist nanny of some sort. And then we could socialise AT ALL, rather than pretty much zero :joker:.

What’s the nature of her difficulties if you don’t mind me asking?

[user104658]

What’s the nature of her difficulties if you don’t mind me asking?

Officially ASD, PDA, some anxiety issues in recent years and she's learning disabled specifically related to language mostly. I personally believe she may have brain injury (traumatic birth, the cord was tight around her neck for an indeterminate amount of time) and I think that most of her issues essentially come down to language and communication and associated confusion/frustration. She's a bit of an "odd case" in that she has significant learning disability in terms of "normal education" but is actually an extremely fast & proficient learner at any non-verbal task (tech use, she uses design apps proficiently, her drawing skills etc. are age approproate), high problem solving ability, and while there's significant "formal learning" and social delay there's basically no developmental delay (her likes and interests, TV and music tastes, and attitude ... lol ... are all very age appropriate for a 9 year old).

tl;dr I'm not 100% on her official diagnoses, but further investigations would be intrusive and distressing so just not worth exploring at this point. It wouldn't really change any of the approaches at present. Again might be something we explore as she approaches adulthood.

[Redway]

Bless her. What do you think the odds are of her attaining independence once she’s an adult?

For what it’s worth I think she sounds like a really bright girl (in her own way). One thing I’ve gotten to know over the years is that there’s always a lot more to people in general than what meets the eye. An outsider is never going to get the full picture so I don’t write off even people with diagnosed learning difficulties. They might actually be super-smart in a way that they just can’t express to us.

[user104658]

Bless her. What do you think the odds are of her attaining independence once she’s an adult?

For what it’s worth I think she sounds like a really bright girl (in her own way). One thing I’ve gotten to know over the years is that there’s always a lot more to people in general than what meets the eye. An outsider is never going to get the full picture so I don’t write off even people with diagnosed learning difficulties. They might actually be super-smart in a way that they just can’t express to us.

She'll never live fully independently unfortunately, her language abilities progress all the time but she'll never have full communication and will always be classed as vulnerable.

[Redway]

Listen, has she tried any medication?

[Redway]

I know certain antidepressants can take the edge off a lot of conditions but there’s only so much I can post about that on a public forum since I don’t want random strangers reading this thread to get the wrong end of the stick and self-medicate their own issues based on what’s discussed here.

I’m dipping for a couple of hours (it’s been a lousy week so far so I need to decompress) but my PM’s always open if you do want to go deeper on this particular topic.

[ThomasC]

Listen, has she tried any medication?

"Listen" :conf:

I don't think anyone knows their child better than a parent.

Within health and social care parents are often viewed as the experts when it comes to their children

I'm sure it has been explored

[user104658]

Her anxiety levels have upped lately so it's something we might have to reconsider at some point - however with her age (almost 10) it's worth waiting out for a bit to see if it's temporary and hormone related.

[Redway]

"Listen" :conf:

I don't think anyone knows their child better than a parent.

Within health and social care parents are often viewed as the experts when it comes to their children

I'm sure it has been explored

Okay.

[Redway]

Her anxiety levels have upped lately so it's something we might have to reconsider at some point - however with her age (almost 10) it's worth waiting out for a bit to see if it's temporary and hormone related.

Mhm, I suppose a med. trial wouldn’t really hurt at any age, really, but at the same time it probably might be worth waiting out on that front. I hear that.

What’s she tried in the past?

[Redway]

Heavenly Father, thank You. Thank You for being everything to me and for me. You are faithful! You are concerned with everything that concerns me. I am grateful for Your Holy Spirit that comforts me during times of fear and doubt. Thank You for everything that You’ve done for me; seen and unseen. I will praise Your name, forever! In Jesus’ name, Amen.

Right, okay.

I guess.

[Redway]

How did this thread even get so many views?